Re: RIP Dave Mills

2024-01-28 Thread Joe Hamelin
The one protocol that keeps us on our toes.

Godspeed, Dr. Dave.

On Sat, Jan 27, 2024 at 7:10 PM Jay Ashworth  wrote:

> The inventor of NTP, in the late 1970s, and recipient of the 2013 IEEE
> Internet Award “for significant leadership and sustained contributions in
> the research, development, standardization, and deployment of quality time
> synchronization capabilities for the Internet”, Dr. David Lennox Mills died
> in Delaware on January 17, at 85.
>
> Rarely have I more wanted to say "perhaps we'll see him again later".
>
> Cheerss,
> -- jra
> --
> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
>


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Re: The rise and fall of the 90's telecom bubble

2023-11-14 Thread Joe Hamelin
Mike asked:  Well, and "better" for what purpose?

Pull string?

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Re: [NNagain] The rise and fall of the 90's telecom bubble

2023-11-12 Thread Joe Hamelin
I started my TCP life (moving from broadcast engineering) back in about
'94ish.  I was in Yakima, WA and took care of the 9 working modems for
Wolfe.net after being on connected.com and teleport.com (Portland, OR).  My
girlfriend  (later my wife), who I met online via the unix talk command got
hired with me by Wolfe and moved to Seattle.  We worked with them for a few
years during the dial-up days and moved on to one of their customers where
we had massive growth and 2.5Gb/s of pipe in 1998 (yes, it was pr0n.) Then
I went to AMZN and got their first netblock after haggling with ARIN at a
BOF at NANOG 19 in Atlanta. See back then, AMZN could only justify a /22
since we were just a website.  Many years later I landed in corporate
aerospace and will likely die here at my keyboard.

Anyway, now when the youngins ask me technical TCP/IP questions I like to
start off with, "Well, back when we were building the Internet..."

On Sun, Nov 12, 2023 at 7:49 AM Dave Taht via Nnagain <
nnag...@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:

> Aside from me pinning the start of the bubble closer to 1992 when
> commercial activity was allowed, and M&A for ISPs at insane valuations
> per subscriber by 1995 (I had co-founded an ISP in 93, but try as I
> might I cannot remember if it peaked at 50 or 60x1 by 1996 (?) and
> crashed by 97 (?)), this was a whacking good read, seems accurate, and
> moves to comparing it across that to the present day AI bubble.
>
> https://www.fabricatedknowledge.com/p/lessons-from-history-the-rise-and
>
> In the end we sold (my ISP, founded 93) icanect for 3 cents on the
> dollar in 99, and I lost my shirt (not for the first time) on it, only
> to move into embedded Linux (Montavista) after the enormous pop
> redhat's IPO had had in 99. The company I was part of slightly prior
> (Mediaplex) went public December 12, 1999 and cracked 100/share, only
> to crash by march, 2000 to half the IPO price (around $7 as I recall),
> wiping out everyone that had not vested yet. I lost my shirt again on
> that and Montavista too and decided I would avoid VCs henceforth.
>
> I am always interested in anecdotal reports of personal events in this
> increasingly murky past, and in trying to fact check the above link.
>
> So much fiber got laid by 2000 that it is often claimed that it was at
> least a decade before it was used up, (the article says only 2.7% was
> in use by 2002) and I have always wondered how much dark, broken,
> inaccessible fiber remains that nobody knows where it even is anymore
> due to many lost databases. I hear horror stories...
>
> The article also focuses solely on the us sector, and I am wondering
> what it looked like worldwide.
>
> I believed in the 90s we were seeing major productivity gains. The
> present expansion of the internet in my mind should not be much
> associated with "productivity gains", as, imho, reducing the general
> population to two thumbs and a 4 inch screen strikes me as an enormous
> step backwards.
>
> (I have a bad habit of cross posting my mails to where older denizens
> of the internet reside, sorry! If you end up posting to one of my
> lists I will add a sender allows filter for you)
> --
> :( My old R&D campus is up for sale: https://tinyurl.com/yurtlab
> Dave Täht CSO, LibreQos
> ___
> Nnagain mailing list
> nnag...@lists.bufferbloat.net
> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/nnagain
>


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Re: maximum ipv4 bgp prefix length of /24 ?

2023-09-28 Thread Joe Hamelin
Wasn't it about 1997 or so when we ran into deployed Cisco gear (5500s back
then) running out of memory for BGP routes?  Been there, done that. -Joe

On Thu, Sep 28, 2023 at 7:41 PM Jon Lewis  wrote:

> On Fri, 29 Sep 2023, VOLKAN SALİH wrote:
>
> > I believe, ISPs should also allow ipv4 prefixes with length between
> /25-/27 instead of limiting maximum length to /24..
> >
> > I also believe that RIRs and LIRs should allocate /27s which has 32 IPv4
> address. considering IPv4 world is now mostly NAT'ed, 32 IPv4s are
> sufficient for most of the
> > small and medium sized organizations and also home office workers like
> youtubers, and professional gamers and webmasters!
> >
> > It is because BGP research and experiment networks can not get /24 due
> to high IPv4 prices, but they have to get an IPv4 prefix to learn BGP in
> IPv4 world.
> >
> > What do you think about this?
>
> Not going to happen any time soon (if at all).
>
> #show ip route summary | i Source|---|bgp
> Route SourceNumber Of Routes
> - -
> bgp   925809
>
> Think about how much network gear is out there that is straining under the
> current size of the global table.  Opening the flood gates to many more
> prefixes with /25-/27 routes in the global table would mean lots of gear
> needs to be upgraded/replaced sooner rather than later.
>
> --
>   Jon Lewis, MCP :)   |  I route
>   StackPath, Sr. Neteng   |  therefore you are
> _ http://www.lewis.org/~jlewis/pgp for PGP public key_
>


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Re: 365 Datacenters Tampa AC Failure

2023-06-12 Thread Joe Hamelin
Is this the building with the lizard mural?

On Mon, Jun 12, 2023 at 4:03 PM Nick Olsen  wrote:

> Just a heads up to anyone else colo'd at 365 TPA1/TAMSFLDE. Currently
> seeing floor temps of ~105F as reported by equipment. Started yesterday at
> ~5:30PM eastern. 2nd AC failure in the last 30 days. They have not sent any
> advisory notices as of yet.
>


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Re: questions asked during network engineer interview

2020-07-14 Thread Joe Hamelin
My first question was always: Who was Jon Postel?
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>
>


Re: 60 ms cross-continent

2020-06-22 Thread Joe Hamelin
On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 12:56 PM Alejandro Acosta <
alejandroacostaal...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
>   Taking advantage of this thread may I ask something?. I have heard of
> "wireless fiber optic", something like an antenna with a laser pointing
> from one building to the other, having said this I can assume this link
> with have lower RTT than a laser thru a fiber optic made of glass?
>
>
See: Terrabeam from about the year 2000.

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Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks

2020-03-14 Thread Joe Hamelin
On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 2:51 PM Mike Bolitho  wrote:

> I think under circumstances like this, I could definitely see some of the
> online based games shutting services down.
>

Next you'll have us actually reading books!
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Re: 5G roadblock: labor

2020-01-06 Thread Joe Hamelin
On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 2:18 PM William Herrin  wrote:

>
> AFAIK, that's not correct. T-Mobile does provide IPv4 *on the device*
> but translates it to IPv6 (464xlat) before the packets leave the
> device for the network.
>

If only for that hotspot which I think is IPv4 only.
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Re: Unable to email anyone from my primary domain name; thanks Google Mail and G Suite.

2019-10-24 Thread Joe Hamelin
zip up the log before you send it. -Joe
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On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 5:20 PM Constantine A. Murenin 
wrote:

> Dear NANOG@,
>
> I'm not sure where else to post this, and this is not really new, either,
> but I think I have a new take here.
>
> I use my own personal domain name for various UNIX stuff, including
> sending log-related things to myself out of cron, which end up in my own
> Gmail.com account, either directly, or through forwarding (w/o SRS).  (I do
> not use G Suite for my own domain name, for obvious reasons; just the
> consumer-based gmail.com email address from the old times of
> invitation-based registrations.)
>
> Over the years, I sometimes had certain messages rejected by Gmail, but it
> was a very low rate of rejection (less than 5% for any mail I cared about),
> and wasn't a major problem (usually only some automated messages would be
> rejected).
>
> A couple of months ago, I setup some new scripts that would send me new
> nightly emails.  It's all plain text, but had a few dozen of domain names
> present (it's logs).  Absolutely no links, just plenty of domains which I
> don't control.  So, Gmail has been presenting most of these messages with
> their red warning label that the email contains malicious links, even
> though all of these emails contained zero links, zero URLs to any of these
> unknown domain names, zero URL schemes, zero "http://";, zero "https://";
> etc.  You get the idea.
>
> Since about a few weeks ago, I am now seeing at least a 95% rejection rate
> for my domain name, for ALL email, including the forwards.  Including
> emails which I send to myself from within Google, and which get forwarded
> back to Gmail by my UNIX machine (which is not known to break Gmail's DKIM,
> either, although it's also difficult to test, because when it does get
> through, it's automatically marked as a duplicate by Gmail, so, you don't
> get DKIM status from Gmail by looking at the headers, since you only get to
> examine the original copy that was sent, not the forwarded duplicate that
> was subsequently accepted).  I.e., emails with a passing DMARC still get
> rejected.
>
> The funny thing is, Google doesn't actually blacklist my primary IPv6
> address in my own /48 from which all of my messages originate; even though
> the rDNS resolves to a subdomain on the very same domain name which they've
> blacklisted "due to the very low reputation".  They've blacklisted just the
> main domain name that I use for my own non-Gmail-hosted mail.  Sending the
> same messages into my Gmail.com from a different domain name in MAIL FROM,
> which is served from the same zone file DNS-wise (e.g., an SPF pass),
> through sendmail's `-f` option, or with Mutt, makes the messages go through
> (even with rDNS being "low reputation"); sending it from my primary domain
> name in MAIL FROM results in the following:
>
> >>> DATA
> <<< 550-5.7.1 [2001:470:::  19] Our system has detected that this
> message is
> <<< 550-5.7.1 likely suspicious due to the very low reputation of the
> sending
> <<< 550-5.7.1 domain. To best protect our users from spam, the message has
> been
> <<< 550-5.7.1 blocked. Please visit
> <<< 550 5.7.1  https://support.google.com/mail/answer/188131 for more
> information. 135si403977wma.43 - gsmtp
> 554 5.0.0 Service unavailable
>
> The support article suggests using Postmaster Tools; great, never heard of
> it, sounds cool; let's verify our domain, and try it out, hopefully,
> there's a solution right there.
>
> However, after verifying my domain name through DNS for Postmaster Tools,
> it is revealed that Postmaster Tools cannot tell me anything at all, with
> all tabs and screens being 100% blank, allegedly because I'm not actually a
> mass email sender (I don't send hundreds of emails a day or whatnot), and
> they're too afraid that I'll figure out why my mail doesn't actually go
> through, instead of signing up for G Suite.
>
> Right now, I've had a business need to reply to a work-related email from
> some other business.
>
> This is what I got after sending my reply from my primary domain name
> through mutt — a nice double rejection by both the G Suite and Gmail in a
> single bounce generated by my server:
>
>
>- Transcript of session follows -
> ... while talking to aspmx.l.google.com.:
> >>> DATA
> <<< 550-5.7.1 [2001:470:::  19] Our system has detected that this
> message is
> <<< 550-5.7.1 likely suspicious due to the 

Re: Its hard to believe that it has been 21 years...

2019-10-17 Thread Joe Hamelin
Got my original nethead.com domain from him after he told me that someone
else two days earlier got deadhead.com.  I'm still kicking myself for not
taking him up on the /24 of swamp space.
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On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 8:01 PM Michael Rathbun  wrote:

> On Wed, 16 Oct 2019 22:52:11 -0400, Rodney Joffe 
> wrote:
>
> >Twenty-one years ago today, Jon Postel passed away in Santa Monica, CA.
> >
> >Almost all of us get to do what we do today, because of his vision,
> guidance, and leadership. He is one of many giants on whose shoulders we
> stand today (some are still active here in NANOG), but he was the compass
> that guided most of us.
>
> Dayyum.  Time do fly when you havin' fun.
>
> mdr
> --
>  "There are no laws here, only agreements."
> -- Masahiko
>
>


Re: What can ISPs do better? Removing racism out of internet

2019-08-05 Thread Joe Hamelin
Well, once they let NetOps fire sales staff we can get some traction going.
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On Sun, Aug 4, 2019 at 8:42 PM Mehmet Akcin  wrote:

> Ok, two mass shootings, touchy topic, lots of emotions this weekend. Going
> straight to the point.
>
> Most of us who operate internet services believe in not being the
> moderator of internet. We provide a service and that’s it. Obviously there
> are some established laws around protecting copyrights, and other things
> which force us to legally take action and turn things down when reported.
>
> What can we do better as network operators about hate sites like 8Chan?
>
> I applaud cloudflare’s (perhaps slightly late) decision on kicking 8chan
> off its platform today after El Paso attack.
> https://blog.cloudflare.com/terminating-service-for-8chan/
>
> I am sure there are many sites like this out there, but could network
> operators do anything to make these sites “not so easy” to be found,
> reached, and used to end innocent lives?
>
> Mehmet
>
>
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> +1-424-298-1903
>


Re: 44/8

2019-07-24 Thread Joe Hamelin
On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 6:46 PM Owen DeLong  wrote:

> Not entirely true. A lot of 44/8 subnets are used for transporting amateur
> radio information across the internet and/or for certain limited
> applications linking amateur radio and the internet.
>

See HamWAN.org for the Seattle area multi-megabit ham network on 44/8 space.
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Re: sendmail.cf

2019-03-04 Thread Joe Hamelin
I'm still running it on my private email server in my basement, on
FreeBSD.  Some things just work.
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On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 10:08 PM Brielle Bruns  wrote:

> On 2/20/2019 4:25 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
> > I've tried never to hand write a sendmail.cf, to be honest - I doubt
> > even the sendmail authors recommended being that brave :). And I haven't
> > done all that much with dmarc beyond using it.
>
>
> I was 16 when I wrote my first sendmail.cf.  Got a rather large check
> and my first employment ever due to that config file.
>
> My brain hurts thinking about that.
>
> Can you believe its been _36_ years since the first version of sendmail?
>
> *holds up a glass of maker's mark*
>
> To the people who made the internet possible.  Cheers!
>
>
> --
> Brielle Bruns
> The Summit Open Source Development Group
> http://www.sosdg.org/ http://www.ahbl.org
>


Re: unwise filtering policy on abuse mailboxes

2018-07-25 Thread Joe Hamelin
 On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 10:13 PM Christopher Morrow <
morrowc.li...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> it's totally possible that the person who 'runs' the abuse@ is not the
> person that 'runs' the mail system at the places in question.


At my work you'll get an email issue addressed if you send it to
postmaster@.com.
RFC-2142 lays this out in section 5.  In the last five years I've not had
one email sent to it.

This reminds me to review the others on the list to make sure they actually
reach someone.  Maybe a little incognito test.

-Joe

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>
>


Re: Amazon peering peeps on the list?

2018-03-11 Thread Joe Hamelin
 On Mar 9, 2018 8:27 AM, "Joe Nelson"  wrote:

> I've all but given up on trying to get a response from peer...@amazon.com.


Heh, that was me 17 years ago.

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>


Re: California fires: smart speakers and emergency alerts

2017-10-17 Thread Joe Hamelin
On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 7:09 PM, Sean Donelan  wrote:
>
>
> It would be creepy if an emergency alert was too targetted.  It may be
> better to keep it larger than a mile radius, rather than a single house.
>

Get out!  The tornado is calling from your house!

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Re: California fires: smart speakers and emergency alerts

2017-10-14 Thread Joe Hamelin
I would think that Amazon knows where my Echo is since it's the same IP
that I order (way too much crap) from.  Same with Google, maps knows where
home is.

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Re: Google DNS --- Figuring out which DNS Cluster you are using

2017-08-24 Thread Joe Hamelin
Gee Chris, that's kind of an asinine response.  Erik took the time to let
us know about what he had found out, with a nice code snippet too.  I don't
have time in my job to just go surfing around google.com to see what is
there.  His mail took me about 2 minutes to read and now I know that such
info exists.

Thank you Erik!

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On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 5:10 PM, Christopher Morrow  wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 4:37 PM, i mawsog via NANOG 
> wrote:
>
> >
> > This is great.  Thanks for sharing .
> >
> > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> >
> >   On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 1:11 PM, Erik Sundberg
> > wrote:   I sent this out on the outage list, with a lots of good feedback
> > sent to me. So I figured it would be useful to share the information on
> > nanog as well.
> >
> >
> > A couple months ago had to troubleshoot a google DNS issue with Google’s
> > NOC. Below is some helpful information on how to determine which DNS
> > Cluster you are going to.
> >
> > Let’s remember that Google runs DNS Anycast for DNS queries to 8.8.8.8
> and
> > 8.8.4.4. Anycast routes your DNS queries to the closes DNS cluster based
> on
> > the best route / lowest metric to 8.8.8.8/8.8.4.4.  Google has deployed
> > multiple DNS clusters across the world and each DNS Cluster has multiple
> > servers.
> >
> > So a DNS query in Chicago will go to a different DNS clusters than
> queries
> > from a device in Atlanta or New York.
> >
> >
> > How to get a list of google DNS Cluster’s.
> > dig -t TXT +short locations.publicdns.goog. @8.8.8.8
> >
> > How to print this list in a table format. Script from:
> > https://developers.google.com/speed/public-dns/faq
> > ---
> > #!/bin/bash
> > IFS="\"$IFS"
> > for LOC in $(dig -t TXT +short locations.publicdns.goog. @8.8.8.8)
> > do
> >   case $LOC in
> > '') : ;;
> > *.*|*:*) printf '%s ' ${LOC} ;;
> > *) printf '%s\n' ${LOC} ;;
> >   esac
> > done
> > ---
> >
> > Which will give you a list like below. This is all of the IP network’s
> > that google uses for their DNS Clusters and their associated locations.
> >
> > 74.125.18.0/26 iad
> > 74.125.18.64/26 iad
> > 74.125.18.128/26 syd
> > 74.125.18.192/26 lhr
> > 74.125.19.0/24 mrn
> > 74.125.41.0/24 tpe
> > 74.125.42.0/24 atl
> > 74.125.44.0/24 mrn
> > 74.125.45.0/24 tul
> > 74.125.46.0/24 lpp
> > 74.125.47.0/24 bru
> > 74.125.72.0/24 cbf
> > 74.125.73.0/24 bru
> > 74.125.74.0/24 lpp
> > 74.125.75.0/24 chs
> > 74.125.76.0/24 cbf
> > 74.125.77.0/24 chs
> > 74.125.79.0/24 lpp
> > 74.125.80.0/24 dls
> > 74.125.81.0/24 dub
> > 74.125.92.0/24 mrn
> > 74.125.93.0/24 cbf
> > 74.125.112.0/24 lpp
> > 74.125.113.0/24 cbf
> > 74.125.115.0/24 tul
> > 74.125.176.0/24 mrn
> > 74.125.177.0/24 atl
> > 74.125.179.0/24 cbf
> > 74.125.181.0/24 bru
> > 74.125.182.0/24 cbf
> > 74.125.183.0/24 cbf
> > 74.125.184.0/24 chs
> > 74.125.186.0/24 dls
> > 74.125.187.0/24 dls
> > 74.125.190.0/24 sin
> > 74.125.191.0/24 tul
> > 172.217.32.0/26 lhr
> > 172.217.32.64/26 lhr
> > 172.217.32.128/26 sin
> > 172.217.33.0/26 syd
> > 172.217.33.64/26 syd
> > 172.217.33.128/26 fra
> > 172.217.33.192/26 fra
> > 172.217.34.0/26 fra
> > 172.217.34.64/26 bom
> > 172.217.34.192/26 bom
> > 172.217.35.0/24 gru
> > 172.217.36.0/24 atl
> > 172.217.37.0/24 gru
> > 173.194.90.0/24 cbf
> > 173.194.91.0/24 scl
> > 173.194.93.0/24 tpe
> > 173.194.94.0/24 cbf
> > 173.194.95.0/24 tul
> > 173.194.97.0/24 chs
> > 173.194.98.0/24 lpp
> > 173.194.99.0/24 tul
> > 173.194.100.0/24 mrn
> > 173.194.101.0/24 tul
> > 173.194.102.0/24 atl
> > 173.194.103.0/24 cbf
> > 173.194.168.0/26 nrt
> > 173.194.168.64/26 nrt
> > 173.194.168.128/26 nrt
> > 173.194.168.192/26 iad
> > 173.194.169.0/24 grq
> > 173.194.170.0/24 grq
> > 173.194.171.0/24 tpe
> > 2404:6800:4000::/48 bom
> > 2404:6800:4003::/48 sin
> > 2404:6800:4006::/48 syd
> > 2404:6800:4008::/48 tpe
> > 2404:6800:400b::/48 nrt
> > 2607:f8b0:4001::/48 cbf
> > 2607:f8b0:4002::/48 atl
> > 2607:f8b0:4003::/48 tul
> > 2607:f8b0:4004::/48 iad
> > 2607:f8b0:400c::/48 chs
> > 2607:f8b0:400d::/48 mrn
> > 2607:f8b0:400e::/48 dls
> > 2800:3f0:4001::/48 gru
> > 2800:

Re: DevOps workflow for networking

2017-08-10 Thread Joe Hamelin
We've been using this tool since we're a LEAN company, but it actually is a
good way to assign tasks/projects and delegate tasks so everyone can see
what is going on.  Managers can move cards to your active lane or ask why a
task/project has stalled.

I'm not sure what exactly you are looking for but as a team management
tool, this has mostly worked for us for the last 3-4 years.  YMMV.

https://kanbanize.com/



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On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 5:52 PM, Kasper Adel  wrote:

> We are pretty new to those new-age network orchestrators and automation,
>
> I am curious to ask what everyone is the community is doing? sorry for such
> a long and broad question.
>
> What is your workflow? What tools are your teams using? What is working
> what is not? What do you really like and what do you need to improve? How
> mature do you think your process is? etc etc
>
> Wanted to ask and see what approaches the many different teams here are
> taking!
>
> We are going to start working from a GitLab based workflow.
>
> Projects are created, issues entered and developed with a gitflow branching
> strategy.
>
> GitLab CI pipelines run package loadings and run tests inside a lab.
>
> Tests are usually python unit tests that are run to do both functional and
> service creation, modification and removal tests.
>
> For unit testing we typically use python libraries to open transactions to
> do the service modifications (along with functional tests) against physical
> lab devices.
>
> For our prod deployment we leverage 'push on green' and gating to push
> package changes to prod devices.
>
> Thanks
>


Re: Vendors spamming NANOG attendees

2017-06-19 Thread Joe Hamelin
If they paid for a booth at beer & gear (i.e.; indirectly bought me a
drink), then I'd give them _one_ pass on a targeted email.

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Re: Russian diplomats lingering near fiber optic cables

2017-06-02 Thread Joe Hamelin
Christopher asks: 'nro tap room' ... what's the expansion of NRO here?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Reconnaissance_Office

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Re: Russian diplomats lingering near fiber optic cables

2017-06-01 Thread Joe Hamelin
Sean said: "Unlike cable landing stations and satellite earth stations,
which are documented in public FCC licenses, usually to 6 decimal points of
longitude & latitude; and and included in navigation maps"

Or you just follow the manhole covers that say Global Crossings.

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On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 1:57 PM, Sean Donelan  wrote:

> On Thu, 1 Jun 2017, Rod Beck wrote:
>
>> And even in Kansas most fiber optic cables are probably next to roads, gas
>> pipelines, and railways. Pretty easy to find.
>>
>
> Unlike cable landing stations and satellite earth stations, which are
> documented in public FCC licenses, usually to 6 decimal points of longitude
> & latitude; and and included in navigation maps
>
> Finding the exact cable routes in the middle of the country requires on
> the ground surveying and locating cable markers. Piecemeal maps exist at
> the local level, and high-level maps are available from various providers.
> But as anyone familar with cable accidents or network planning knows, those
> marketing maps are aspirational.  I had real estate people try to convince
> me that "fiber was available" at specific sites because there was a
> railroad across the road, and everyone "knew" that fiber was always next to
> railroads.
>
> Yes, its fairly simple to find a cable marker, if you put people (i.e.
> diplomats) on the ground in remote areas across the country.
>
> But, its odd to send diplomats to remote areas of the country, if you are
> not trying to survey geographic infrastructure in the middle of the country.
>


Re: Russian diplomats lingering near fiber optic cables

2017-06-01 Thread Joe Hamelin
The Seattle Russian Embassy is in the Westin Building just 4 floors above
the fiber meet-me-room and five floors above the NRO tap room.  They use to
come ask us (an ISP) for IT help back in '96 when they would drag an icon
too far off the screen in Windows 3.11. We were on the same floor.

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On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 6:08 PM, Brandon Vincent 
wrote:

> On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 6:07 PM, Matt Palmer  wrote:
> > I think regardless of what you appear to be interested in, hanging
> around a
> > beach with a big DSLR is likely to get you on one list or another.
>
> "Excuse me, sir! Can you direct us to the naval base in Alameda? It's
> where they keep the nuclear wessels."
>


Re: St. Louis IX Launch

2017-01-16 Thread Joe Hamelin
Congrats to St Louis!  I put in about 40 racks for Clearwire a few years
back and enjoyed the city, even if it was winter.

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On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 5:26 PM, Mike Hammett  wrote:

> It is a partnership and I may not be the most qualified to speak on the
> terms of the partnership. However, the non-commercial side is
> not-for-profit, but the commercial side is fully commercial.
>
> While building out our IX brand, of those that have been able to have a
> rational discussion about their anti-commercial IX position, almost all of
> them (or maybe even all of them) weren't really anti-commercial. They were
> just anti-800-lb-gorilla. They didn't hate the independent building out
> IXes in markets that maybe never had a functional IX, but surely didn't
> have one now. They hated Equinix, Coresite, etc. They just wanted someone
> that wasn't going to be a jerk to them.
>
> We don't have any aspirations to get to Equinix size. We know we're going
> to small time places and that we'll only ever have small time IXes in the
> big picture. The building we started at in Indy only advertises something
> like 20 or 30 networks in the building. Now we've grown to other buildings
> and they aren't going to list every Tom, Dick and Harry, but it's not a 300
> network market. We'll leave that to AMS-IX, DE-CIX, Megaport, etc.
>
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>
> Midwest Internet Exchange
>
> The Brothers WISP
>
> - Original Message -
>
> From: "Ken Chase" 
> To: "NANOG ???[nanog@nanog.org]???" 
> Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 6:36:20 PM
> Subject: Re: St. Louis IX Launch
>
> congrats!
>
> I am curious, is the IX non-for-profit as well? The wikipedia entry for
> IX's
> doenst indicate which IX's are non-profit. Im curious as to the prevalence
> and size (as well as the relative successes) of such IX's vs for profit
> models
> (equinix etc).
>
> /kc
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 06:30:45PM -0600, Mike Hammett said:
> >If you know someone that may be interested, we have a launch event later
> this week for our St. Louis IX. St. Louis is a bit different than our
> existing market in that we've partnered with a local non-profit that will
> be focusing on non-commercial Internet aspects. These sorts of things are
> innovation neighborhoods, IoT, healthcare, education, public safety, etc.
> They may (or may not) be the big volume things we're used to, but they need
> local, low-latency connectivity just as much.
> >
> >https://www.eventbrite.com/e/st-louis-regional-internet-
> exchange-preview-tickets-30329718003?aff=NANOG
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >-
> >Mike Hammett
> >Intelligent Computing Solutions
> >
> >Midwest Internet Exchange
> >
> >The Brothers WISP
> >
>
> --
> Ken Chase - k...@heavycomputing.ca skype:kenchase23 +1 416 897 6284
> Toronto Canada
> Heavy Computing - Clued bandwidth, colocation and managed linux VPS @151
> Front St. W.
>
>


Re: Why the internal network delays, Gmail?

2016-08-28 Thread Joe Hamelin
On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 11:24 AM,  wrote:

>
> And apparently you need to know the secret handshake to get on.


I was able to sign-up yesterday, I even saw John's mail about your insecure
error.

I don't know why I didn't sign up before, my work ITIL is Messaging
Manager.

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Re: cross connects and their pound of flesh

2016-06-20 Thread Joe Hamelin
David said:* Gotta watch out for specifying T1 when you want Ethernet- they
could just give you 4 wires on pins 1,2,4,5 :)*

I think Patrick was thinking back in the days when Ethernet was just two
pairs.  You could get away with a lot on 10BaseT, I've even used dry telco
pairs between buildings when I was in a tight spot.  Nice clean T1 pairs
through at DSX panel was quite common before we had fancy things like fiber
meet-me-rooms.  SIX started with midnight cable runs in the drop ceiling.

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Re: CDN, Steam, Origin and NAT.

2016-04-24 Thread Joe Hamelin
You can always bring up an HE IPv6 tunnel and hand out public IPs that way.

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On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 7:27 PM, Laurent Dumont 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> We are running a small-ish LAN event in Toronto where we have to use a
> single IP address to NAT between 250-350 players. I have been made aware of
> possible issues with different services like Steam, Origin and Twitch who
> can run into issues when a large number of connections seem to originate
> from a single IP address. I just wanted to poke the list to see if anyone
> can chime him on their experiences with NATing customers and the impact it
> might have on public services. I am usually using public IP address space
> for players when designing most large LAN events. Dealing with NAT for a
> medium-ish amount of customers is not something I am used to do.
>
> It feels silly to worry about that when you assume that WISP
> sometimes(mostly?) use CGN when providing internet to customers. The same
> could be said of most large office buildings around the world.
>
> I appreciate any input on the matter!
>
> Thanks
>
> Laurent
>


Re: DataCenter color-coding cabling schema

2016-03-12 Thread Joe Hamelin
I know at Clearwire data centers we used gray for network, blue for
management and orange for RS-232 console.  At least for the initial build.
Later re-work or additions were whatever the tech had on hand ;)  They also
had labels on each end of each wire showing the path through the system,
sometimes up to six lines.  It did make it easy to bring up a data center
and find cabling errors.  To see the system last more than a year or two up
upgrades would take some strong rules and oversight.  I think it would be
worth it if your management system can keep the religion.

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On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 11:11 AM, Yardiel Fuentes  wrote:

> Hello Nanog-ers,
>
> Have any of you had the option or; conversely, do you know of “best
> practices" or “common standards”,  to color code physical cabling for your
> connections in DataCenters for Base-T and FX connections? If so, Could you
> share  any ttype of color-coding schema you are aware of ?…. Yes, this is
> actually considering paying for customized color-coded cabling in a Data
> Center...
>
> Mr. Google did not really provide me with relevant answers on the above…
> beyond the typical (Orange is for MMF, yellow for SMF, etc)…
>
> Any reasons for or against it welcome too...
>
> --
> Yardiel Fuentes
>


Re: remote serial console (IP to Serial)

2016-03-12 Thread Joe Hamelin
This little guy has proven handy for me.
http://www.amazon.com/iPocket232-RS232-to-Ethernet-Converter/dp/B00K309TKY

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On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 7:35 AM, Christopher Morrow 
wrote:

> also, serial? or usb? (see previous cisco usb console port discussion)
>
> On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 10:33 AM, Christopher Morrow
>  wrote:
> > for singular serial .. there are many, do you want something that's
> > "appliance" or are you willing to deploy 18 raspnberry-pi-like
> > thingies?
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 10:30 AM, greg whynott 
> wrote:
> >> Recently I have taking over the responsibility of managing about 18
> remote
> >> routers and firewalls.   None of these have a console port for 'out of
> >> band' access accessible today.
> >>
> >> Most sites has available IPs between the ISP and us (typically a /29)
> or a
> >> backup DSL connection available for use. I'd like to purchase a IP
> to
> >> Serial port device I can use for each location in the event I lock
> myself
> >> out.   The requirement would be an Ethernet port,  a serial port,  and
> SSH.
> >>
> >>
> >> Anyone have any recommendations on something like this?
> >>
> >> thanks much,
> >> greg
>


Re: Remote hands mailing lists?

2016-02-21 Thread Joe Hamelin
Check with colo brokers like Stratcore too.

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On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 10:54 PM, Daniel Corbe 
wrote:

> You may also want to try some places where content providers and content
> creators gather like webhostingtalk because there’s often small operators
> and individuals there trying to get their names known who may appreciate
> picking up extra work.
>
> > On Feb 20, 2016, at 9:31 PM, Christopher Morrow 
> wrote:
> >
> > I think (though I don't see much traffic on it):
> >
> >  newh...@snausages.com
> >
> > works like this.
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 5:30 AM, nanog  wrote:
> >> Sorry if this off-topic.
> >>
> >> Are there any mailing lists/forums/websites that independent techs can
> post
> >> availability for remote hands work?
> >>
> >> I just got let go from my company and am looking for anyone who needs
> remote
> >> hands work in Phoenix.
> >> Server/wiring/fiber/dwdm/design/button-pushing/consulting/etc.
> >>
> >> Thanks- and apologies again if this isn't on-topic.
> >>
> >> b
> >
>
>


Re: Shared cabinet "security"

2016-02-13 Thread Joe Hamelin
On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 6:58 PM, Mike Hammett  wrote:

> There are more options when you're not just using someone else's
> datacenter.


Indeed, paying for and maintaining your own generator and UPS system,
digging up streets for diverse network paths if you can get a CLEC to play
with you, twenty-four hour security and personnel logging, buying and
installing your own environmental conditioning.

All just for a half rack of kit.

Please, tell me about those options.

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>


Re: Survey on Middlebox modeling and troubleshooting

2016-01-06 Thread Joe Hamelin
On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 7:51 PM, Zhang, Ying  wrote:
> https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/5SFP6G8

One issue that stopped me dead in your monkeysurvey was that you asked how
many "Middleboxes" I had without telling me what you consider a middlebox.
Then you go into questions that ask me to delve deep into the whitepapers
of how they work.  I work with a team that supports about 100 international
locations on a large MPLS network with Palo Alto, Ipanema, Cisco and
homebrew virtual machines.  For me to even try to answer your questions the
way you state would require me to schedule meetings with all network
stakeholders from across the globe. Trust me, we have enough meetings
already.  And I'm only on a small network of 30,000 users.   I think the
problem isn't what your are trying to learn, it's how you are asking.
There is no motivation for us to answer your survey, there is actually very
good security reasons why we wouldn't.  You don't explain what you are
trying to research but asking us to give, gratis, deep inside depth to our
deployments.  Most of us would have serious issues with our employers if we
gave out that info.

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>


Re: Rack Locks

2015-11-21 Thread Joe Hamelin
http://www.netbotz.ca/rackbotz.htm

Just make sure you put one on both the front and back.  Otherwise one could
just open the back and unplug the Ethernet cable.

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Joe Hamelin, W7COM, Tulalip, WA, +1 (360) 474-7474

On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Joe Abley  wrote:

> On Nov 20, 2015, at 20:55, Jimmy Hess  wrote:
>
> > You're not going to be able to look at a log and see Joe opened it at
> 2:45AM
> > 12 months ago,  and ever since then,  the servers are not quite right.
>
> And I would have got away with it to, if it wasn't for you kids and
> your pesky logs.
>
>
> Joe
>


Re: CHP website returning 503

2015-09-27 Thread Joe Hamelin
It might have been the "el-cheapo" server that crashed.  If that's what
happened, are you going to eat your maintenance window to fix it?

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Re: CHP website returning 503

2015-09-27 Thread Joe Hamelin
It is late Sunday night.  When would you do maintenance?

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On Sun, Sep 27, 2015 at 7:50 PM, Grant Ridder 
wrote:

> Hey,
>
> If anyone from CHP (california highway patrol) is listening, your website
> is returning a 503.
>
> curl -v https://www.chp.ca.gov
> * Rebuilt URL to: https://www.chp.ca.gov/
> * Hostname was NOT found in DNS cache
> *   Trying 168.145.114.48...
> * Connected to www.chp.ca.gov (168.145.114.48) port 443 (#0)
> * TLS 1.2 connection using TLS_DHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA
> * Server certificate: *.chp.ca.gov
> * Server certificate: Entrust Certification Authority - L1K
> * Server certificate: Entrust Root Certification Authority - G2
> > GET / HTTP/1.1
> > User-Agent: curl/7.37.1
> > Host: www.chp.ca.gov
> > Accept: */*
> >
> < HTTP/1.1 503 Service Unavailable
> < Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
> < Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2015 02:48:23 GMT
> < X-Cnection: close
> < Content-Length: 326
> <
>  http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd";>
> Service Unavailable
> 
> Service Unavailable
> HTTP Error 503. The service is unavailable.
> 
> * Connection #0 to host www.chp.ca.gov left intact
>
> -Grant
>


Re: Level3 routing issue US west coast?

2015-07-13 Thread Joe Hamelin
We have an MPLS circuit down in Philly with Level3.  No explanation from
them.

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>
>


Re: Thoughts On Cheap Chinese xDSL Testers

2015-06-29 Thread Joe Hamelin
The Westel A90-750045-07 Frontier branded DSL router has some amazing DSL
status screens if you dig in the menu deep enough.  I always kept one in
the truck when I was doing some service work.  Check the local
Goodwill/Value Village.

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On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 6:23 PM, Robert Glover  wrote:

> The local ILEC (Verizon) use Colt 250+.  They are pretty cool.  They do
> not do layer 3 like the meter you referenced.
> I'm actually looking for a cost-effective meter that does ADSL+ / VDSL2 /
> e.SHDSL.  it's easy to find one that does the first two, but not all three.
>
>  Original message 
> From: Lyndon Nerenberg 
> Date: 06/29/2015  5:50 PM  (GMT-08:00)
> To: North American Network Operators' Group 
> Subject: Thoughts On Cheap Chinese xDSL Testers
>
> I've been poking around looking for an inexpensive xDSL circuit tester to
> do some measurements on my home DSL line, in opposition to the telco. $2K+
> is not in the budget, so I'm curious about the accuracy of the $300 Chinese
> units kicking around eBay (e.g. the ST332B).  Anyone out there have
> experience with them?  Are they even remotely close to accurate?
>
> --lyndon
>
> ​
>


Re: Any Verizon datacenter techs about?

2015-06-26 Thread Joe Hamelin
On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 5:40 PM, John Musbach 
 wrote:

> .
>
> P.S. If there was any way to get a tour inside of there at least I'd
> totally sign a NDA for that. :) Never been inside, let alone near, a
> CO before.
>

http://museumofcommunications.org/?page_id=12

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Re: Anycast provider for SMTP?

2015-06-16 Thread Joe Hamelin
On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 9:02 PM, Rafael Possamai  wrote:

> Any luck on a DNS based solution?
>

I'm looking into a F5 GTM solution based out of a colo we have in Europe to
direct SMTP between France and the US hubs.  Now I just have to work layers
8 & 9.

Remember when users didn't expect sub-minute delivery times?

Thanks for everyone's help, you've give me a lot of good ideas to consider
and I've learned more than I ever thought I would about anycast.  Although
I'm not on the BGP end of things anymore I value the minds, personalities
and pure history that NANOG brings.

Total side note: I remember back at a NANOG in Atlanta, 2000 maybe, at a
BOF on ARIN allocations where I was arguing for netblocks less than a /21
because Amazon couldn't justify that much at that time, I mean we only had
one public site but still wanted to multi-home. I remember Randy Bush even
backed me up on that one.  In the end I did get a block for Amazon and
brought up BGP.  Oh how times have changed (and how I wish I still had
those stock options!)


Best regards,

Joe  (ex JH484)

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>


Re: Anycast provider for SMTP?

2015-06-15 Thread Joe Hamelin
On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Rafael Possamai  wrote:

> You're welcome. I hope that helps.
>
> On another note, if your internet pipe in Europe isn't as stable as your
> pipe in the US, then you could also try and have your infrastructure
> provider blend your uplink with two or more carrier-grade paths. You
> wouldn't have to worry about signing up for and maintaining an AS, but you
> could improve your uptime significantly.
>

It seems to be more of a last-mile backhoe fade issue right now.  I'm
trying to convince them that a manufacturing facility isn't a good place
for a data center.


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Re: Anycast provider for SMTP?

2015-06-15 Thread Joe Hamelin
On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 12:45 PM, Rafael Possamai 
 wrote:
>
>
> The other step would be to setup HA in each SMTP node (US and France) such
> as LB or Failover. Just an idea.
>
> I'll look at the AWS doc, thanks.

The mailserver is seldom the problem (it's an AS/400) but the ISP pipe
experiences prolonged outages.



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Re: Anycast provider for SMTP?

2015-06-15 Thread Joe Hamelin
On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 11:02 AM, Christopher Morrow <
morrowc.li...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> 'when one site goes down' ... then the other works fine, right? smtp
> is not latency sensitive in the sense that a 30second timeout for a
> server will mean delivery to the secondary... right?


The two MX sites are connected via third party MPLS.  The problem is when
one MX site loses Internet connectivity the sending MTA may take up to 4
hours to resend and hopefully the DNS coin toss gives it the address of the
site that is still connected.  (Read as: French ISPs don't seem as robust
as I'm use to in the US.)  Since our mail traffic is international
something like anycast would be nice.  Now the other problem is we don't
have an ASN or do external BGP ourselves.

And not that it matters in a network sense, but this is a Domino mail
system.  I'm just trying to bring it up to year 2000 standards.


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Joe Hamelin, W7COM, Tulalip, WA, 360-474-7474


>


Anycast provider for SMTP?

2015-06-15 Thread Joe Hamelin
I have a mail system where there are two MX hosts, one in the US and one in
Europe.  Both have a DNS MX record metric of 10 so a bastardized
round-robin takes place.  This does not work so well when one site goes
down.   My solution will be to place a load balancer in a hosting site
(virtual, of course) and have it provide HA.  But what about HA for the
LB?  At first glance anycasting would seem to be a great idea but there is
a problem of broken sessions when routes change.

Have any of you seen something like this work in the wild?


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Re: eBay is looking for network heavies...

2015-06-07 Thread Joe Hamelin
Jay said:
>Original RFC editor.  Invented Perl, among other things.  Co-designed DNS
>(did I get that right?)  I personally always label layers 8, 9, and 10
>as money, management and inside counsel, but I know views differ.  I don't
>RTFM, I google.  It's often faster, so many of TFMs are online now.
>And this... is NANOG!
>What's my starting rate?  :-)

Close enough but I look for Evi's t-shirt for layers 8&9; financial and
political.

Back in 2000 your starting rate would have been $90k/yr, $25k signing and
9k of stock options at $21.

It's that last one that makes me wish I could have drunk the Kool-Aid for 5
years.

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Joe Hamelin, W7COM, Tulalip, WA, 360-474-7474


Re: eBay is looking for network heavies...

2015-06-05 Thread Joe Hamelin
On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 11:11 PM, Elmar K. Bins  wrote:

> eyeronic.des...@gmail.com (Mike Hale) wrote:
>
> > We need a pool on what percentage of readers just googled traceroute.
>
> None of course!


No, they read the man page, of course!

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>
>


Re: eBay is looking for network heavies...

2015-06-05 Thread Joe Hamelin
Back in 2000 at Amazon, HR somehow decided to have me do the phone
interviews for neteng.  I'd go through questions on routing and what not,
then at the end I would ask questions like, "Who was Jon Postel?  Who is
Larry Wall?  Who is Paul Vixie? What are layers 8 & 9? Explain the RTFM
protocol.  What is NANOG?"  Those answers (or long silences) told me more
about the candidate than most of the technical questions.

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Re: stacking pdu

2015-06-04 Thread Joe Hamelin
This takes me back to the days of old with bread racks full of modems and
the mess of wall-warts and power-strips.

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On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 2:52 PM, Rob Seastrom  wrote:

>
> William Herrin  writes:
>
> > Isn't it against the NEC and the fire code to stack power strips? We
> > all do it, but isn't it against code?
>
> Sorry to be late to the party (I plead vacation), but no, afaik it is
> not.  About as close as the NEC comes art 400.8 - you can't use
> flexible cord as a substitute for permanent wiring (think of some of
> the shenanigans you've seen with extension cords standing in for NM or
> MC on thereifixed.com or similar sites).
>
> Rack wiring is not "permanent", but I would not go so far as to claim
> it is subject to the "qualified personnel" rules (OSHA subpart S and
> NFPA 70E).  Datacenter workers who could pass a test on LOTO
> procedures and routinely utilize proper PPE (even gloves, safety
> glasses, and steel toe shoes) are the exception rather than the rule.
>
> As always, when someone asserts that "X is against code" whether in
> the form of a statement or a question, the proper response is
> "Citation, please!"
>
> -r
>
>


Re: Thousands of hosts on a gigabit LAN, maybe not

2015-05-08 Thread Joe Hamelin
On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 5:19 PM, Jima  wrote:
   Dang.  The more I think about this project, the more expensive it sounds.

Naw, just use WiFi.  ;)

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Re: Thousands of hosts on a gigabit LAN, maybe not

2015-05-08 Thread Joe Hamelin
On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 11:53 AM, John Levine  wrote:

> Some people I know (yes really) are building a system that will have
> several thousand little computers in some racks.  Each of the
> computers runs Linux and has a gigabit ethernet interface.


Though a bit off-topic I ran in to this project at the CascadeIT
conference.  I'm currently in corp IT that is Notes/Windows based so I
haven't had a good place to test it but the concept is very interesting.
They distributed way they monitor would greatly reduce bandwidth overhead.

http://assimproj.org

The Assimilation Project is designed to discover and monitor
infrastructure, services, and dependencies on a network of potentially
unlimited size, without significant growth in centralized resources. The
work of discovery and monitoring is delegated uniformly in tiny pieces to
the various machines in a network-aware topology - minimizing network
overhead and being naturally geographically sensitive.

The two main ideas are:

   - distribute discovery throughout the network, doing most discovery
   locally
   - distribute the monitoring as broadly as possible in a network-aware
   fashion.
   - use autoconfiguration and zero-network-footprint discovery techniques
   to monitor most resources automatically. during the initial installation
   and during ongoing system addition and maintenance.



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Re: Phone adapter with router

2015-03-09 Thread Joe Hamelin
I've run into a few of these and they seem to do a good job.

ftp://ftp.edgewaternetworks.com/pub/docs/CD_contents/DOCS/EdgeMarc/200/200%20Series%20Datasheet.pdf

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On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 4:07 PM, A MEKKAOUI  wrote:

> Hi
>
>
>
> Do you know any good router with phone adapters to provide home phone and
> internet? We tried couple of them like Linksys, Thomson, etc. and no one
> does the job perfectly. Any comment will be appreciated.
>
>
>
> Thank you
>
>
>
> Karim
>
>
>
>


Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality

2015-02-27 Thread Joe Hamelin
On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 7:21 AM, Bob Evans 
 wrote:

>
> Yes, I am that old. You were not allowed to connect a phone of your own.


But that didn't stop most of us old timers on this list.  The first
"digital" circuit that I played with as a kid was an old Strowger switch
pulled from a junk yard.

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Re: OT - Small DNS "appliances" for remote offices.

2015-02-18 Thread Joe Hamelin
I used one of these for a NAT/DNS box running FreeBSD for connection to our
WiFi system.  One nice thing is the 4 real serial ports.

http://www.amazon.com/Qotom-I37C4-Bluetooth-Computer-Industrial-Computer/dp/B00MQKJYY0

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On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 11:43 AM, Rob Seastrom  wrote:

>
> Justin Wilson - MTIN  writes:
>
> > Have you looked at Mikrotik?
> > www.mikrotik.com
> >
> > It may be lacking for DNS options you want, but worth a look.
>
> I'd definitely recommend mikrotik for a cheap and cheerful router.
>
> DNS server (the original subject of this message)?  Not so much.
>
> -r
>
>


Re: Dynamic routing on firewalls.

2015-02-05 Thread Joe Hamelin
> On Feb 5, 2015, at 2:49 PM, Ralph J.Mayer  wrote:
> a router is a router and a firewall is a firewall.
> Especially a Cisco ASA is no router, period.

Man-o-man did I find that out when we had to renumber our network after we
got bought by the French.

Oh, I'll just pop on a secondary address on this interface... What?

Needed to go through fits just to get a hairpin route in the thing.

The ASA series is good at what it does, just don't plan on it acting like
router IOS.

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Re: North Korean internet goes dark (yes, they had one)

2014-12-23 Thread Joe Hamelin
On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 6:05 PM, Valdis Kletnieks 
 wrote:

> Any of you guys want to fess up? :)
>
>
> http://www.msnbc.com/the-ed-show/watch/north-koreas-internet-goes-dark-376097859903
>
> (Yes, I know, they're saying it's a DDoS, not a routing hack...)


I was hoping that everyone just put 175.45.176.0/22 in their bogon list.


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Re: Self destruction in open source systems (was Re: Linux: concerns over systemd [OT])

2014-10-22 Thread Joe Hamelin
On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 4:58 PM, Larry Sheldon  wrote:

>
> Now I have Thunderbird and Firefox--from people who are committed to the
> notion that if it works, it must be replaced.  If people like it, it must
> be redesigned.  If it is stable, it must be updated.  If there is a
> useless, senseless "feature" somewhere in the world, these products must be
> revised to make that feature the focus.


And where is my new 1967 VW Microbus?  That's all you need if you compile
it with --add-heater-fan.  So I had to upgrade to a 1998 Volvo V70 wagon.
Don't know where I'm going to get a new one when this one wears out.

Damn kids, GET OFF MY LAWN!

I actually feel with your there, Larry.  I really like the *nixes because
of the great app store with things like ls, grep, sed, cc and ssh.  It's
also why for most things I still use one of the BSDs.  (Should we call
/usr/ports an app store now?)

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>


Re: Keeping Track of Data Usage in GB Per Port

2014-10-15 Thread Joe Hamelin
>
>
> On 10/15/14, 1:38 PM, "Colton Conor"  wrote:
>
> >So based on the response I have received so far it seems cable was a
> >complicated example with service flows involved.
>

Don't forget that between your port on your DSL/Cable modem and the actual
port they may be monitoring there could be transitions through various
protocols that can chew up bandwidth with framing bits and whatnot.

See: http://www.yourdictionary.com/cell-tax as an example.

This can, in worse but common cases, be as much as one fifth of the
bandwidth.

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Re: Fwd: [ PRIVACY Forum ] An Iranian Grand Ayatollah Issues Fatwa Stating High Speed Internet is against Sharia

2014-09-02 Thread Joe Hamelin
I'm guessing that he is upset at the price of new Sandvines or whatever
they use.  Maybe a ploy to bend the vendor on maintenance contract cost.

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Re: Urgent

2014-08-18 Thread Joe Hamelin
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 10:00 AM,  wrote:

> Contact for God, please reach out to me offlist.
>
>
Per Michael Valentine Smith 127.0.0.1 should work.

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Re: linkedin.com abuse admins around?

2014-05-05 Thread Joe Hamelin
On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 4:50 PM,  wrote:

> If there is anyone from linkedin.com abuse around please let me know.
> I've been trying for 2 months to get an abuse issue resolved.
>

That's not abuse, that's a feature.

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Re: The FCC is planning new net neutrality rules. And they could enshrine pay-for-play. - The Washington Post

2014-04-24 Thread Joe Hamelin
On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 2:42 PM, Jack Bates 
 wrote:

   I agree with you, Patrick. Double digit/meg pricing needs to die.

Hell, I remember back in '98 when it was triple digit, and not small values
at that.  We've come a long way.


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Re: Customer Support Ticketing

2014-03-19 Thread Joe Hamelin
Kayako is what we use.  We're happy with it.

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On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 7:35 AM, Tim Burke  wrote:

> Kayako is the way to go. IIRC they have a trial up on their website, may
> be worth checking out.
>
> Tim
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Paul Stewart" 
> To: nanog@nanog.org
> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 9:01:11 AM
> Subject: Customer Support Ticketing
>
> Hey folks
>
> We need a new customer ticketing system and I'm looking for input.  I am
> still working on a scope document on everything we want to do with the new
> system.
>
> The most common problem I run across is that a system is either built for
> enterprise internal IT helpdesk or it is built like a CRM sales tracking
> system.  We are an ISP among other things and are looking for a powerful
> and
> yet reasonable cost system to answer email inquiries, allow customers to
> open tickets via portal, mobile support, escalation/SLA support, and
> several
> other things.  Solarwinds NPM integration would be a huge bonus but not a
> deal breaker.  If anyone has a system that they have integrated with Ivue
> from NISC (our billing platform) I would be really interested in hearing
> more as well.
>
> So my question is meant high level.  For those folks that are ISP's
> supporting business customers (including managed customers) along with
> residential eyeball traffic what system(s) do you use and what do you
> like/dislike?
>
> I've looked so far at WHD (Solarwinds product), OTRS, RT, RemedyForce,
> ZenDesk, HappyFox, Kayako and several others.  All of them so far would
> require a fair amount of configuration or modifications based on our still
> developing wish list.  Also worth noting is that we have no full time
> development staff so hoping to find something that has a lot of promise and
> then work with the vendor to evolve it into what we feel we need.
>
> **This is not an invitation for sales folks to call on me**
>
> Thanks,
>
> Paul
>
>
>
>
>
>


Re: The Making of a Router

2013-12-27 Thread Joe Hamelin
>Warren Bailey 
>via<http://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=1311182&ctx=mail>
 nanog.org :
>I propose cage fighting at the next NANOG summit.

Reminds me of some of the BOFs in 2000ish.

Anyway, Ray's "TL;DR I think the backlash against anything but big iron
routing is becoming an old way of thinking." should send a message to C&J
that for other than "Tier 1" providers, a lot of people are looking for
something else that pencils out better..


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Re: Cisco ADSL2/VDSL2 Voip Router

2013-12-13 Thread Joe Hamelin
On 13-12-2013 14:54, Nick Cameo wrote:
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I have a customer that is looking for a voip router.

The Edgewater EdgeMarc 200 series has worked well for me. The ones that
I've used have 2xFXS and 1xFXO ports with ADSL.  Lots of knobs in a fairly
sane web GUI.

http://www.thetelecomspot.com/systems-and-components/sip-and-voip/sip-voip-gateways/edgewater-gateways/edgemarc-200-series.html

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Re: APC UPS Advice/Guidance for Canada 120/240

2013-08-16 Thread Joe Hamelin
http://www.amazon.com/Conntek-Locking-Adapter-Straight-Connector/dp/B001H9TSEW

If you're not sure, then spend for an hour with a licensed electrician.

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On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 2:47 PM, Nick Khamis  wrote:

> Hello Everyone,
>
> We are in the market for a APC UPS, and had a few questions. We are not
> that familiar with APC, and was hoping for some clarity. Our power demands
> will be for a unit that will sustain 3 kW/4 kVA scalable to 8 kVA.
>
> Input:
>
> The first issue is that I see all the units default with 208v input (other
> inputs 240v). At my location we only have 120 or 240. Also, we do not want
> to use a transformer (240-120) as it adds another failure point that can be
> avoided...
>
> The unit we are looking is found here:
>
> http://www.apc.com/products/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=SYA4K8RMP&total_watts=500
>
> Output:
>
> Hard Wire 4-wire (2PH + N +G)NEMA L14-30R[image: NEMA L14-30R]NEMA
> L5-20R[image:
> NEMA L5-20R]
>
> What? How do I plug our 120 PDU into this?
>
>
> STONITH:
>
> This will be for a cluster that will require stonith capability. Does
> anyone know if this unit supports that? Not so important as the previous
> two questions...
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Nick.
>


Re: 48V DC Terminal server recommendations

2013-07-24 Thread Joe Hamelin
I guess Cyclades is now Avocent, used these at Clearwire.  Can come with
dual 48VDC supplies.  Think of a 48 serial port Linux box.  Has PCM/CIA
slot for modem.  Multiple users can be logged in at the same time.

http://www.emersonnetworkpower.com/en-US/Products/InfrastructureManagement/SerialConsoles/Pages/AvocentACS6000AdvancedConsoleServer.aspx

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On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 7:59 AM, Jeremy Bresley  wrote:

> Looking for recommendations on a good terminal server to put into a telco
> colocate facility.
>
> Requirements:
> 8-16 ports for Cisco console access (RJ-45s preferred, DB9s if we have to)
> -48V DC power
> USB/internal modem for OOB access
> NEBS Level 1 (or better) compliance.
>
> So far I've found Perle has several models that meet 3 out of 4, but none
> that meet all the requirements.  The only OpenGear boxes we're seeing with
> DC power is a little 4 port unit and they don't mention NEBS compliance.
>  Lantronix mentions DC power for their SLC line, but doesn't mention
> anything about NEBS compliance either.
>
> Anybody have any recommendations for one they've used that meets all 4 of
> those requirements?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Jeremy "TheBrez" Bresley
> b...@brezworks.com
>
>


Re: One of our own in the Guardian.

2013-07-13 Thread Joe Hamelin
On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 9:46 PM, Mark Keymer  wrote:

> He might have been talking about Condo Internet if he is in the Seattle
> area. They deliver 1Gig connections to  your Condo/Apartment, if your in
> one of the buildings they service.
>

I know the guy that does Condo.  He was a very good friend of a very good
friend of NANOG. Joe Wood (RIP) from Google, Flying Croc, and Wolfe.  They
were just starting a CLEC in the Puget Sound area when Joe died.

Damn, I miss that bastard.

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Re: One of our own in the Guardian.

2013-07-13 Thread Joe Hamelin
http://www.nwi.net/ I'm thinking.  Rides the county's fiber network.  I
remember delivering them T1s from Seattle back in the day ('96ish).  I sure
wish I could get some of that love.

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On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 9:32 PM, Grant Ridder wrote:

> Someone I know in Washington state has 100/100 at home and made the
> comment to me a year ago that it was one of the slower speeds offered.  I
> am not sure who his ISP is however.
>
> -Grant
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 9:20 PM, Joe Hamelin  wrote:
>
>> Jima said: Really, who has 100/100 at home?
>>
>> Oddly, those living in Grand Coulee, WA.
>>
>> I went there once to setup corporate connectivity for a regional tire
>> store.  They ordered the minimal drop, 50/50Mbs. One of the tire changers
>> there told me that he had 100/100 at home for $50/month.
>>
>> This was a town without T-Mobile service. I had to haul out the butt set
>> and clip on to the business POTS lines to turn up the VPN.
>>
>> Most of rural Central Washington has very good fiber connectivity. Forward
>> looking Public Utility Districts FTW!
>>
>> --
>> Joe Hamelin, W7COM, Tulalip, WA, 360-474-7474
>>
>
>


Re: One of our own in the Guardian.

2013-07-13 Thread Joe Hamelin
Jima said: Really, who has 100/100 at home?

Oddly, those living in Grand Coulee, WA.

I went there once to setup corporate connectivity for a regional tire
store.  They ordered the minimal drop, 50/50Mbs. One of the tire changers
there told me that he had 100/100 at home for $50/month.

This was a town without T-Mobile service. I had to haul out the butt set
and clip on to the business POTS lines to turn up the VPN.

Most of rural Central Washington has very good fiber connectivity. Forward
looking Public Utility Districts FTW!

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Re: recommended outdoor enclosures

2013-06-17 Thread Joe Hamelin
Clearwire uses these and they are very nice.

www.*ddb*unlimited.com



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On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 12:36 PM, Chuck Anderson  wrote:

> I'm in need of my first free-standing, pad-mounted outdoor enclosure,
> 19" rack rails, 12-18 rack units, with about 400W of heat load inside,
> for use in the Massachusetts climate.  What do people recommend as far
> as contruction, cooling/heating options, NEMA ratings, security
> options, etc. for this use?
>
> I was hoping to keep the inside temperature between 50 and 85 degrees
> Fahrenheit, although my worst-case components are rated for 41 to 104
> F (4 - 40 C).  If a full mechanical A/C system can be avoided, even
> better.  A thermo-electric cooler would be nice.
>
> Thanks.
>
>


Re: chargen is the new DDoS tool?

2013-06-11 Thread Joe Hamelin
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 4:57 PM, Majdi S. Abbas  wrote:

>
> I have a hard time blaming a school for this.  I have an easy
> time wondering why printer manufacturers are including chargen support
> in firmware.


Isn't that what printer do?  Generate characters?  It was in the design
spec.

/me thinks of PHB going down port list, "yep, need that one!"

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Re: Data Center Installations

2013-05-01 Thread Joe Hamelin
Graybar.

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On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Warren Bailey <
wbai...@satelliteintelligencegroup.com> wrote:

> Do any of you have a "go to" resource for materials used in installations?
> Tie wraps, cable management, blahblahblah?
>
> I have found several places, but I'm curious to know what the nanog
> ninja's have to say.
>
> //warren
>
>


Re:

2012-12-11 Thread Joe Hamelin
nanog:/root#rmuser
Please enter one or more usernames: flower_tailor
Matching password entry:

flower_tailor:*:13204:13204::0:0:User &:/home/flower_tailor:/bin/tcsh

Is this the entry you wish to remove? y
Remove user's home directory (/home/flower_tailor)? y
Removing user (flower_tailor): mailspool home passwd.
nanog:/root#
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Re: Verizon wireless (cdma/LTE) compatible ethernet connectable OOB access device.

2012-11-12 Thread Joe Hamelin
I've used digi.com before, does the job.
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Re: Detection of Rogue Access Points

2012-10-18 Thread Joe Hamelin
On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 7:00 AM, Jonathan Rogers 
 wrote:

> I like the idea of looking at the ARP table periodically, but this presents
> some possible issues for us.


Is it just WAPs that you are worried about or any rouge device at the
remote sites?  If you're doing medical data then I would think that any
non-company device would be suspect.  If that is the case then ARP scraping
is the better way.  Basically you need an inventory of what is at the
sites.  This you should already have and if you don't, that is your first
step.

A bit of perl and expect scripting would get you a long way to your goal.
 Like I mentioned before, if you don't have the time/talent to script the
task, call out for a coder-for-hire.

I feel that concentration just on WAPs is missing the bigger issue.

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Re: Detection of Rogue Access Points

2012-10-15 Thread Joe Hamelin
On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 4:06 PM, Sean Harlow  wrote:

>
> You are correct that deploying to a number of sites isn't cheap, but the
> actual relevant question is how does this cost compare to the cost of the
> original request to detect these things.  In this case almost all forms of
> detection/prevention except possibly looking at TTL will require new
> equipment to be deployed at the site(s) anyways based on the information we
> have, negating much of the extra cost.  Any active detection on the RF side
> of things is generally done using WAPs in a managed network or standalone
> devices that are pretty much repurposed WAP hardware anyways, but cost a
> lot more.
>
>
I think it would be cheaper to have a script written that would grab the
ARP table of each site and then compare to what is known.  Kind of an ARP
tripwire.  Sure you'll have to take the time with early runs to hunt down
non-company owned MACs but that is going to be a lot cheaper than managing
a 130 site roll-out.  Even if you did put RF monitoring equipment in each
site you would still have to monitor and manage it.  Either way, you'll be
getting a current inventory of devices.  From what I read, he wants to
detect non-company equipment on his network.  It's just WiFi that is the
main problem.   Even just watching the DHCP leases, which I assume the
little Cisco router is providing, will catch most of the rouge devices.

Get someone that knows networking and perl on the task for a month.  If
they don't have the local talent there are a lot of people that would love
to take the contract, considering most of it could be done remotely.

Jonathan stated that they have health data on the network and only company
issued devices are allowed.  I would suggest to him that he inventory the
equipment via MAC address (I'm guessing that it's mostly standard issue
stuff that would be easy to recognize) and then lock down unused ports and
setup up monitoring. If a new MAC appears on the network, then it better
have been sent there by IT.

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Re: Detection of Rogue Access Points

2012-10-15 Thread Joe Hamelin
On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Roy  wrote:

>
>
> Why not give them wireless Internet access only?  That will keep all the
> smartphone users happy.
>
>
Maybe because he has 130 sites and 130 truck rolls is not cheap.  Also
company policy says no.

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Re: Detection of Rogue Access Points

2012-10-14 Thread Joe Hamelin
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On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Jonathan Rogers wrote:

> Gentlemen,
>
>
> I'm looking for innovative ideas on how to find such a rogue device,
>

Check ARP tables for MAC address of wireless devices  (first few nybbles
show manufacturer.)  Or for ports with multiple devices where you know
there aren't switches.



> ideally as soon as it is plugged in to the network.


That's going to take some decent scripting.  Left as an exercise...


>

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Re: names are not numbers, was IPv4 address length technical design

2012-10-06 Thread Joe Hamelin
On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 6:14 PM, John Levine  wrote:
>
>
> Hey, I've got a great idea.  Let's lose this silly phone number
> portability nonsense and use phone numbers as routes.
>

You do not want to go down the hell hole that is SS7.

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Re: the economies of scale of a Worldcon, and how to make this topic relevant to Nanog

2012-09-23 Thread Joe Hamelin
Jo Rhett said:
> One of which I forgot to mention. Many of the hotels (I believe all
> Hilton properties at this time) have sold the facilities space for
> their wifi network to another company.

PSAV is the company.  I just installed about 20 Cisco WiFi radios at the
Doubletree (a Hilton prop) at Sea-Tac.  These covered only the convention
space, conf rooms, ball rooms, whatnot.  It would seem that the hotel is
running their own system in the other public areas such as check-in, coffee
shops and bars.

Mostly they were well placed, often in the same spot as the existing
radios.  But I'd never throw a geek-con at that system.

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Re: IPv6 Ignorance

2012-09-18 Thread Joe Hamelin
>On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 9:47 AM, Cutler James R wrote:
> ...waste of NANOG list bandwidth.

I sure get a chuckle when I read this on a list for people that swing
around 10Gb/s pipes all day.

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>
>


Re: POTS Ending (Re: Operation Ghost Click)

2012-05-06 Thread Joe Hamelin
On 2012-05-04, at 09:11, Anurag Bhatia wrote:

> Curious to know if naked DSL (DSL without dialtone & POTS link) is common
> in North America?

Very common for business (retail, etc.) and I have it at home.  We often
call it a dry-loop.  No battery or dial tone is common.  Some LECs do
deliver with dialtone so the customer can call 911 (emergency) in a pinch.

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Re: Operation Ghost Click

2012-05-02 Thread Joe Hamelin
On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 1:20 PM,  wrote:
> It may not be the codec that sucks...

Yeah, it is.  Sit on hold with some music that is at a low volume and
you'll hear part that turn into white noise at times.  Mobile operators us
codecs that are tuned for human voice.  Get sounds away from voice and they
turn to mush.  Back in a past life when I was a broadcast engineer we would
use dial-up lines for remotes.  If the remote was in the same CO and it was
an analog (mechanical) office we could get 8-10kHz audio through a pair,
and flat if we used a bit of equalization.  S/N was good enough to play
records for an AM station.  Of course, now in the day of cell phones the
term "broadcast quality" has lost all meaning. Field reporters using cell
phones for live broadcast!  There is a reason that the FCC set aside 30kHz
channels for electronic news gathering (ENG.)  At least some stations still
order up ISDN lines for remotes.

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Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-18 Thread Joe Hamelin
Just give me a gumball machine with RJ45 ends and a crimper on a chain.

I'll find some wire that can be shorter.

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Re: Which P-Touch should I have?

2012-02-16 Thread Joe Hamelin
Give me a link to the labeling section and I'll let you know if I've seen
it in the wild.  I'm out in the field now (got sick of the desk) and see a
lot of commercial/retail plants.

I doubt that it's going on in retail, except maybe Lowe's Hardware.  They
do love MM fiber and just did a nation-wide network upgrade to gigabit
everywhere in the stores.  But then again, the label specs were kinda hit
and miss.

Sadly I've seen no IPv6 in any retail shops.

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Joe Hamelin, W7COM, Tulalip, WA, 360-474-7474


On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 9:20 PM, Kenneth M. Chipps Ph.D.
wrote:

> I don't suppose anyone follows the TIA-606-B Administration Standard for
> the
> Telecommunications Infrastructure of Commercial Buildings when labeling
> things like cables.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Owen DeLong [mailto:o...@delong.com]
> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 10:42 PM
> To: William Herrin
> Cc: NANOG
> Subject: Re: Which P-Touch should I have?
>
> >
> > For cable labeling I've had good results with 3M Scotch Super88 color
> > electrical tape. Pick unique color bands for each cable. Band it
> > identically at both ends. You don't have to squint to see how it's
> > labeled. And the label isn't invalidated merely because you unplugged
> > it from one place and plugged it in somewhere else.
> >
>
> I usually use labels printed on all sides in about a 14 point font that
> have
> a unique number followed by a - and a length. So, for example, 10294-4.5 is
> a 4.5' long cable number 10294.
>
> You might need to squint a bit to read it, but, 14 points is usually pretty
> legible and being printed 4 times on the label (3 of which remain visible
> on
> the average cat5/cat6 cable) means you usually don't have to futz with
> twirling the cable to find the label.
>
> I usually have the labels installed ~2" from the plug at each end.
>
> In a crowded deployment, I think the color bands would be like trying to
> read resistor color codes in a box of ~1,000 mixed resistors. You're going
> to end up squinting anyway.  With my tactic, you have the additional
> advantage that you get a defined search radius within which the other end
> can be located.
>
> Using serial-number labels instead of equipment-specific labels means that
> mine aren't invalidated either.
>
> Owen
>
>
>
>
>
>


Re: Which P-Touch should I have?

2012-02-16 Thread Joe Hamelin
> Anyone got a solution for *that* particular problem? Should I get a
> better TZ-compatible labeler?

Brother PT-1400 P-Touch Handheld Labeler ($90ish) is nice in that it will
do three lines and also do "flags" (double print) to tag wires with.
 Batteries last a good while, and fits in the hand nicely.  Good for field
work and fairly rugged.  Main downside is lack of a qwerty keypad.  If you
don't have to label a whole data center and just need to pump out a dozen
or two a day, it does the job well and won't kill the budget.  Fits nice in
the tool bag too.

http://www.amazon.com/Brother-PT-1400-P-Touch-Handheld-Labeler/dp/B00011KHPG/ref=sr_1_22?ie=UTF8&qid=1329441056&sr=8-22


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Re: couple of questions regarding 'lifeline' and large scale nat...

2012-02-10 Thread Joe Hamelin
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 1:19 PM, Eric J Esslinger wrote:

> We're toying with the idea of a low bitrate 'lifeline' internet on our
> cable system, maybe even bundled with a certain level of cable service.
>
> First question, if you happen to be doing something like this, what bit
> rates are you providing.
>

Well, a lifeline telephone is effectively 64kb/s, up and down.  Makes me
remember when I had my first ISDN line and was happy to get beyond dial-up
rates.


> Second question, though 'real' internet customers all get real IP's, what
> would you think of doing something like this with 'large scale' nat
> instead. Understand, we're only talking about basic internet, something
> like a 256k/96k (or similar) connect, not something that would be used by a
> serious user. (One thing we are looking at is some older dial up users we
> still have, most of which could go onto cable just fine but don't want to
> pay the price).
>

Force SMTP to something sane, block all the 139, etc. MS ports.  Basic web,
telnet, and ssh.  Set it up like a coffee house.  Use a proxy and make them
register.  It's not like they are chatting 911, ya know.  If they have NAT
issues, then they need a real account.  If they can get to google,
wikimedia, or what ever a high school student needs to research papers,
then they have what they need for a life-line.  Let chat protocols through,
that's low bandwidth.  I'm guessing that this is done as a favor to the
customer that won't/can't pay for a real account.  But let them know it's
not a real account.  This is just to give them a taste of real IP and not a
solution to all their problems.  Shove them a NATted DHCP address and if
they can't figure that out then refer them to the local wizkid or a better
plan with support.  Let them know up front that this is a basic service and
don't expect phone support.  If you're a cable company then they can call
and say the cable is out.

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Joe Hamelin, W7COM, Tulalip, WA, 360-474-7474


Re: Console Server Recommendation

2012-01-30 Thread Joe Hamelin
-1 for Cyclades. At least in Clear's DC plants the PCMCIA modems would
often wedgie and require a re-insert.  Also, if you have a DC power side
fail, they beep and beep and beep.  Very annoying when your power people
are still catching up when you're trying to commission equipment.
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Joe Hamelin, W7COM, Tulalip, WA, 360-474-7474


Re: next-best-transport! down with ethernet!

2011-12-30 Thread Joe Hamelin
> From: "Vitkovsky, Adam" 
> -also there some attempts to actually send the information 50 micro sec
back in time

Please don't let the high-frequency stock traders get a hold of this.

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Joe Hamelin, W7COM, Tulalip, WA, 360-474-7474


Re: Speed Test Results

2011-12-23 Thread Joe Hamelin
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 9:35 PM, Graham Beneke  wrote:


> That said - people get fixated on the numbers. 80% of the purchased speed
> on non-CIR services is cause for a complaint.
>
> Our biggest issue is people doing tests to destinations 300+ ms away that
> only last for a few seconds and then complaining about poor performance. As
> soon as you mention things like bandwidth delay product the eyes glaze
> over. Heavy use of lossy WISP access network providers doesn't help.


Or that most ADSL lines have about 20% ATM cell "tax" on them.

I did get caught up on a speed test today.  I was turning up a GBLX 100Mb
circuit.  I got the /30 and all the pings were good to the router.  I then
pinged some known hosts in the Westin (about a block away where GBLX's
router was) and saw some not so nice ping times.  I then ran a speedtest
and only got about 2Mb/s.  Come to find out that this was going to be an
MPLS path to the company's California office. Since it hadn't been setup
fully the router had found some path through it's management network to
ping the world through the tester's DSL line on the other side.

So, know the path you are testing.

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Joe Hamelin, W7COM, Tulalip, WA, 360-474-7474


Re: First real-world SCADA attack in US

2011-11-22 Thread Joe Hamelin
This might be of interest to those wishing to dive deeper into the subject.

Telecommunications Handbook for Transportation Professionals: The Basics of
Telecommunications by the Federal Highway Administration.

http://ops.fhwa.dot.gov/publications/telecomm_handbook/

I'm still digging through it to see what they say about network security.

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Joe Hamelin, W7COM, Tulalip, WA, 360-474-7474


Re: Query : seeking a (low cost & secure) turnkey plug-and-play appliance to report network outages

2011-11-19 Thread Joe Hamelin
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 6:58 AM, A. Chase Turner  wrote:
> I am seeking a $100 turnkey micro hardware appliance to plug into a LAN
hub...

Why micro?  Just get a pile of free for the carting-off old Pentium
machines and run them headless with a BSD.  Set them up to heartbeat to a
cacti box.  Why buy new when you have a good use for the old stuff that is
going to a dump anyway?

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Joe Hamelin, W7COM, Tulalip, WA, 360-474-7474


Re: Cell-based OOB management devices

2011-11-07 Thread Joe Hamelin
>
> On Nov 6, 2011 10:15 PM, "David Hubbard" 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all, I am looking at cellular-based devices as a higher
> > speed alternative to dial-up backup access methods for
> > out of band management during emergencies.
>

I've used the Digi devices for Clearwire site OOB and in many retail
situations where they are use for backup connection and for when the wire
line hasn't been delivered yet.  They do come with a static IP address if
you request (and pay?) for it. They can come from the shared mobile IP
range (RFC 2002) so that you can keep the static IP as you move between
tower sites.  You can also get them "piped" right in to your net via a VPN,
although I suspect that is only affordable for a very large install base.

Real world 3G bandwidth is about 1Mb/s down and 300Kb/s down.  RTT (ping)
is around 185ms to a local IXP (which kinda sucks for terminal support, but
still better than a POTS modem.)

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Joe Hamelin, W7COM, Tulalip, WA, 360-474-7474


Re: Were A record domain names ever limited to 23 characters?

2011-10-07 Thread Joe Hamelin
On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 8:25 PM, Owen DeLong  wrote:
>Yes, this was because some very old (current at the time, however)
>implementations of gethostbyname(3) were implemented in such a way that if
>the first character they saw returned isdigit()==TRUE, then,
>they would assume that they had been passed an IP address
>and would attempt to encode the string as an IP address rather
>than looking it up in /etc/hosts or DNS.

Now I'm going to have to look at the current gethostbyname(3) and see what
happens if we ever get a tld that is a decimal number under 255.  Yet
another reason for IPv6.

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Joe Hamelin, W7COM, Tulalip, WA, 360-474-7474


Re: Were A record domain names ever limited to 23 characters?

2011-10-07 Thread Joe Hamelin
On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 7:30 PM, Jay Ashworth  wrote:
- Original Message -
> "3com.com"

I recall that 3M was originally mmm.com because they wouldn't allow a number
to start a domain.

/me runs whois mmm.com

Yep,  Created on..: 1988-10-31.

but wait, 3m.com  Created on..: 1988-05-27.

So was the digit as first octet a limitation with some OS or software (BIND,
sendmail, gopher?) or do I have brain-fade?

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Re: Were A record domain names ever limited to 23 characters?

2011-09-30 Thread Joe Hamelin
> On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 02:54:38PM -0700, steve pirk [egrep] wrote:
>  I seem to recollect back the 1999 or 2000 times that I was unable to
>  register a domain name that was 24 characters long...

I remember tales from when there was an eight character limit.  But that was
back when you didn't have to pay for them and they assigned you a class-c
block automatically.  Of course it took six weeks to register because there
was only one person running the registry.

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Joe Hamelin, W7COM, Tulalip, WA, 360-474-7474


Re: The Cidr Report - 4byte ASN handling

2011-09-16 Thread Joe Hamelin
I say we all start using octal two's complement for extended ASNs.

(note to self: don't post to NANOG after a night out with a vendor.)

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Joe Hamelin, W7COM, Tulalip, WA, 360-474-7474


On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 9:39 PM, Mark Tinka wrote:

> On Saturday, September 17, 2011 04:49:17 AM Tassos
> Chatzithomaoglou wrote:
>
> > btw, am i the only one who finds it easier to remember
> > asdot formatted ASNs?
>
> They're easier to remember, but if you operate an ASN for a
> reasonable period of time, it's okay to assume that you will
> remember it, whether it's as-plain or otherwise.
>
> The same would hold true for your favorite upstreams, peers,
> customers and role model ISP's :-).
>
> Cheers,
>
> Mark.
>


Re: How to begin making my own ISP?

2011-09-16 Thread Joe Hamelin
When we needed an ISP in Yakima back in '95 we found a rich guy in Seattle,
got him to hire an old SunOS geek and an illegal Englishman, and a very
small space on the 19th floor of the Westin.  Then we talked him into
putting his first POP in Yakima where he would have immediate paying
customers.   He was tired of using broken UUCP email for his trading
company.  That was our "hook".  That ISP founded what is now SIX, so not all
was lost.

j...@wolfe.net
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Joe Hamelin, W7COM, Tulalip, WA, 360-474-7474


On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 6:41 PM, Ben McGinnes  wrote:

> On 17/09/11 7:34 AM, Charles N Wyble wrote:
> > On 09/16/2011 04:28 PM, hass...@hushmail.com wrote:
> >> On Fri, 16 Sep 2011 16:02:39 -0400 Markus 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> I didn't receive any such email, sorry. Try resending it if you
> >> still have it ?
> >
> > Maybe hushmail blocked it? :)
>
> That's not outside the realms of possibility, especially if the sender
> was using OpenPGP.  Hushmail does many odd things with its
> implementation (e.g. still no support for PGP/MIME or even SHA-2).
>
>
> Regards,
> Ben
>
>


Re: Tampa small colo recs?

2011-09-03 Thread Joe Hamelin
The switch & data (or whatever they are called now, Equinox or something)
space is nice, good manager.  You'd have to go for a whole rack or cage
though.  You'd have wikipedia as a neighbor too.  I put 40+ racks in there
for Clearwire.  They are in the building with the big lizard on the side
downtown Tampa, 10th floor if I recall.
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On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 5:50 PM, Jay Ashworth  wrote:

> Anyone got any opinions on small colo rental in Tampa; anywhere from 8RU to
> a
> half-rack?  I'd prefer at least one tier 1 uplink, and at least 1 tier 2,
> dial-a-yield 100Base, and 24 hour access, but I'm flexible.  Pinellas
> County
> is also fine.
>
> Cheers,
> -- jra
> --
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> j...@baylink.com
> Designer The Things I Think   RFC
> 2100
> Ashworth & Associates http://baylink.pitas.com 2000 Land Rover
> DII
> St Petersburg FL USA  http://photo.imageinc.us +1 727 647
> 1274
>
>


Re: PuTTY alt-keys (was Re: 16-User Network)

2011-08-31 Thread Joe Hamelin
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 4:19 AM, Jay R Ashworth  wrote:

>Must. Not. Post. After. 1am.

Nor su after the third drink. ;)

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