Equinix Sales Rep

[Ryan Finnesey via NANOG]

I know this might flood my inbox on a Friday, but I am looking for 
recommendations on  sales rep at Equinix that understand the carrier space.  I 
need to find out more information about their Equinix Fabric product and it has 
been about 10 years since I have worked with Equinix

Verizon’s ESInet

[Ryan Finnesey via NANOG]

Would someone from Verizon or someone familiar with Verizon’s ESInet please 
contact me off list .

Ryan

RE: VoP regulatory consultant

[Ryan Finnesey via NANOG]

Thanks Tim.  I have been a member of that listserv for years.  It is very US 
focused.  That’s why I thought I would ask the larger NANOG community.  

Ryan


-Original Message-
From: Tim Nelson  
Sent: Friday, July 9, 2021 9:28 AM
To: Ryan Finnesey 
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: VoP regulatory consultant

Check the VoiceOps mailing list:  http://voiceops.org/

--Tim

On Fri, Jul 9, 2021 at 8:06 AM Ryan Finnesey via NANOG  wrote:
>
> Would anyone have any recommendations on regulatory consultants for VoIP 
> within North America but markets outside the US?
>
> Get Outlook for iOS

RE: SITR/SHAKEN implementation in effect today (June 30 2021)

[Ryan Finnesey via NANOG]

This should help with Robo calls a lot.

-Original Message-
From: NANOG  On Behalf Of 
Sean Donelan
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2021 2:31 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: SITR/SHAKEN implementation in effect today (June 30 2021)


STIR/SHAKEN Broadly Implemented Starting Today 
https://www.fcc.gov/document/stirshaken-broadly-implemented-starting-today

WASHINGTON, June 30, 2021—FCC Acting Chairwoman Jessica Rosenworcel today 
announced that the largest voice service providers are now using STIR/SHAKEN 
caller ID authentication standards in their IP networks, in accordance with the 
deadline set by the FCC. This widespread implementation helps protect consumers 
against malicious spoofed robocalls and helps law enforcement track bad actors. 
The STIR/SHAKEN standards serve as a common digital language used by phone 
networks, allowing valid information to pass from provider to provider which, 
among other things, informs blocking tools of possible suspicious calls.

RE: Email and Web Hosting

[Ryan Finnesey via NANOG]

If the client base wants to stick with basic IMAP/POP3 email Tucows/OpenSRS has 
a good platform.  Also a few years ago my company migrated business email 
accounts and domains from an ISP and moved them to Office 365 and did a revenue 
share with the ISP.  They where happy still got a bit of revenue  but did not 
have to support it.

Ryan


From: NANOG  On Behalf Of 
Steve Saner
Sent: Tuesday, July 6, 2021 10:42 AM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Email and Web Hosting

I hope this isn't too far off topic for this list.

We acquired a small ISP a couple years ago that has its roots in the "local 
ISPs" of the 90s. This ISP is still hosting email and web services for 
customers both on company domains as well as customer domains. There is some 
decent revenue coming from these services, but cost of maintenance is becoming 
a challenge. We are looking at migrating to another platform or completely 
discontinuing those services.

I'm wondering if others here have gone through that process and have any advice 
as to how to go about it.

--

Steve Saner | Senior Network Engineer

ideatek INTERNET FREEDOM FOR ALL

Cell: 620-860-9433 | 111 Old Mill Lane, Buhler, KS 67522 | 
ideatek.com

This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages 
attached to it may contain confidential information. If the reader of this 
message is not the intended recipient or the employee or agent responsible for 
delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that 
any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly 
prohibited. If you are not or believe you may not be the intended recipient, 
please advise the sender immediately by return email or by calling 
620.543.5026. Then, please take all steps necessary to permanently delete the 
email and all attachments from your computer system. No trees were affected by 
this transmission – though a few billion photons were mildly inconvenienced.

RE: Email and Web Hosting

[Ryan Finnesey via NANOG]

Tucows/OpenSRS works well for “ISP email”

From: NANOG  On Behalf Of 
K. Scott Helms
Sent: Tuesday, July 6, 2021 11:14 AM
To: Steve Saner 
Cc: NANOG list 
Subject: Re: Email and Web Hosting

Two decent options, one on prem and the other fully hosted.

Tucows/OpenSRS has a fully hosted email offering that was built for ISPs to 
resell.  (They also have domain registration and some other ISP focused 
services.)

https://opensrs.com/services/hosted-email/

MagicMail is an email (including webmail) suite that you run on prem.  It is 
comparatively inexpensive but also fully supported.  It's built largely on 
qmail, but they replaced some of the components to deal with spam and virus 
filtering more efficiently.

https://www.magicmail.com/

I have direct experience with both and have used them both for ISPs 
specifically.

Scott Helms


On Tue, Jul 6, 2021 at 10:44 AM Steve Saner 
mailto:ssa...@ideatek.com>> wrote:
I hope this isn't too far off topic for this list.

We acquired a small ISP a couple years ago that has its roots in the "local 
ISPs" of the 90s. This ISP is still hosting email and web services for 
customers both on company domains as well as customer domains. There is some 
decent revenue coming from these services, but cost of maintenance is becoming 
a challenge. We are looking at migrating to another platform or completely 
discontinuing those services.

I'm wondering if others here have gone through that process and have any advice 
as to how to go about it.

--

Steve Saner | Senior Network Engineer

ideatek INTERNET FREEDOM FOR ALL

Cell: 620-860-9433 | 111 Old Mill Lane, Buhler, KS 67522 | 
ideatek.com

This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages 
attached to it may contain confidential information. If the reader of this 
message is not the intended recipient or the employee or agent responsible for 
delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that 
any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly 
prohibited. If you are not or believe you may not be the intended recipient, 
please advise the sender immediately by return email or by calling 
620.543.5026. Then, please take all steps necessary to permanently delete the 
email and all attachments from your computer system. No trees were affected by 
this transmission – though a few billion photons were mildly inconvenienced.

VoP regulatory consultant

[Ryan Finnesey via NANOG]

Would anyone have any recommendations on regulatory consultants for VoIP within 
North America but markets outside the US?

Get Outlook for iOS

Microsoft - list of Azure DNS servers

[Ryan Finnesey]

I am looking for someone from Microsoft to  contact me off list.  I am looking 
for a complete list of Azure DNS servers. 

Cheers
Ryan

RE: Feedback - SBC Vendors.

[Ryan Finnesey]

Thanks I will post there as well








From: Hiers, David 
Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2018 10:11:33 AM
To: James Milko; Ryan Finnesey
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: RE: Feedback - SBC Vendors.

You might want to drop this question on the VoiceOps list:

voice...@voiceops.org

It runs at a good signal-to-noise ratio, so you'll get some useful responses.


David


-Original Message-
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces+david.hiers=cdk@nanog.org] On Behalf Of 
James Milko
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2018 7:06 AM
To: Ryan Finnesey 
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Feedback - SBC Vendors.

 Which Ribbon product are you looking at?  There are quite a few now and they 
have different code bases/features.

JM

On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 7:56 PM, Ryan Finnesey  wrote:

> I am going to have to install a series of SBCs for a  voice offering
> connected to Microsoft Teams.  We are going to pass the SIP traffic
> off to a larger number of SIP providers.  I would like  to get some
> feedback from the group on SBC vendors.  I have two options for
> vendors Ribbon or AudioCodes.  I am leaning towards a software based SBC over 
> an appliance.
>
> Would be helpful to get the other members feedback on Ribbon or
> AudioCodes deployments within their networks.
>
> Cheers
> Ryan
>
>

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This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee 
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of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of 
the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this 
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in error, notify the sender immediately by return email and delete the message 
and any attachments from your system.

RE: Feedback - SBC Vendors.

[Ryan Finnesey]

I was looking at SBC SWe (Software Edition)  I think the same code base as the 
- SBC 5400 – appliance.



From: James Milko 
Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2018 10:06 AM
To: Ryan Finnesey 
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Feedback - SBC Vendors.

Which Ribbon product are you looking at?  There are quite a few now and they 
have different code bases/features.

JM

On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 7:56 PM, Ryan Finnesey 
mailto:r...@finnesey.com>> wrote:
I am going to have to install a series of SBCs for a  voice offering connected 
to Microsoft Teams.  We are going to pass the SIP traffic off to a larger 
number of SIP providers.  I would like  to get some feedback from the group on 
SBC vendors.  I have two options for vendors Ribbon or AudioCodes.  I am 
leaning towards a software based SBC over an appliance.

Would be helpful to get the other members feedback on Ribbon or AudioCodes 
deployments within their networks.

Cheers
Ryan

Feedback - SBC Vendors.

[Ryan Finnesey]

I am going to have to install a series of SBCs for a  voice offering connected 
to Microsoft Teams.  We are going to pass the SIP traffic off to a larger 
number of SIP providers.  I would like  to get some feedback from the group on 
SBC vendors.  I have two options for vendors Ribbon or AudioCodes.  I am 
leaning towards a software based SBC over an appliance. 

Would be helpful to get the other members feedback on Ribbon or AudioCodes 
deployments within their networks.

Cheers
Ryan

NANOG On The Road - DC?

[Ryan Finnesey]

Does anyone know if there is a block of rooms for NANOG On The Road - DC? I 
called the Hilton and they did not have the meeting on their calendar. 

Donuts Inc

[Ryan Finnesey]

Good Morning 

Is there someone monitoring this list from Donuts Inc?  I would appreciate them 
contacting me off-list I have a few technical questions about their EPP 
interfaces.

Cheers
Ryan

ccTLDs - Become a Registrar

[Ryan Finnesey]

I was wonder if anyone within the group has done this research and might be 
able to save me a bit of time.  I am in the process of putting together a new 
Registrar and we would like complete ccTLD coverage.  I know for example CIRA 
(.ca)  has a Canadian Presence Requirement and we have formed a Canadian 
Corporation to meet this requirement.  

I am hoping to find what other TLD operators may have similar requirements.

Cheers
Ryan

replacing EPP?

[Ryan Finnesey]

Has there been an discussion about  replacing EPP with something more modern?

Cheers
Ryan

RE: WHOIS Privacy & Proxy Services?

[Ryan Finnesey]

Thank you very helpful.

From: Rubens Kuhl [mailto:rube...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2016 7:50 PM
To: Ryan Finnesey <r...@finnesey.com>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: WHOIS Privacy & Proxy Services?



On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 8:36 PM, Ryan Finnesey 
<r...@finnesey.com<mailto:r...@finnesey.com>> wrote:
Is there any news out of the ICANN meeting that just concluded regarding new 
policy's around  WHOIS Privacy & Proxy Services?

The Implementation Review Team is just starting its work, so there won't be 
much news for a while in this topic.

You can see presentations and hear recordings of the 2 sessions:

https://icann572016.sched.org/event/8cwR/privacy-and-proxy-services-accreditation-implementation-review-team-project-overview

https://icann572016.sched.org/event/8dQg/privacy-and-proxy-services-accreditation-program-implementation-review-team-working-meeting

But the short version is "ongoing work".


Rubens

WHOIS Privacy & Proxy Services?

[Ryan Finnesey]

Is there any news out of the ICANN meeting that just concluded regarding new 
policy's around  WHOIS Privacy & Proxy Services?

RE: DNS Services for a registrar

[Ryan Finnesey]

Thanks everyone for their response.  We are going to use the Azure Zone Service.

Cheers
Ryan


From: Matthieu Michaud [mailto:matth...@nxdomain.fr]
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2016 1:34 PM
To: Ryan Finnesey <r...@finnesey.com>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: DNS Services for a registrar

Hi,

I have been very happy with route53 while lack of IPv6 support was not an issue 
for the use case.

Did you evaluate CloudFlare in PaaS solution ?
Their free plan includes DNS.

Best regards,


On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 7:56 AM, Ryan Finnesey 
<r...@finnesey.com<mailto:r...@finnesey.com>> wrote:
We need to provide DNS services for domains we offer as a registrar.  We were 
discussing internally the different options for the deployment.  Does anyone 
see a down side to using IaaS on AWS and Azure?

We were also kicking around the idea of a PaaS offering and using Azure DNS or 
AWS Route 53.

Cheers
Ryan



--
Matthieu MICHAUD

DNS Services for a registrar

[Ryan Finnesey]

We need to provide DNS services for domains we offer as a registrar.  We were 
discussing internally the different options for the deployment.  Does anyone 
see a down side to using IaaS on AWS and Azure?

We were also kicking around the idea of a PaaS offering and using Azure DNS or 
AWS Route 53.

Cheers
Ryan

number of characters in a domain?

[Ryan Finnesey]

I was hoping someone can help me confirm my research.  I am correct that 
domains are now limited to 67 characters in length including the extension?

Cheers
Ryan

issues?

[Ryan Finnesey]

Is this list having issues?  The last message I received was late Tuesday.

Cheers
Ryan

Canadian Internet Registration Authority (CIRA)

[Ryan Finnesey]

Is anyone from the Canadian Internet Registration Authority (CIRA) monitoring 
the list?  I was hoping they can ping me off list.  I have a few questions 
around there policy's and a program we would like to put in place.

Cheers
Ryan

RE: ISP License in the USA?

[Ryan Finnesey]

Would you mind sharing some of the telecommunications focused law firms?  I am 
about to start a company that is going back into the CLEC/ISP/VoIP Business and 
I am going to have to establish relationships with a few law firms.

-Original Message-
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Eric Flanery (eric)
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 2:55 PM
Cc: NANOG list 
Subject: Re: ISP License in the USA?

There is no such thing as an 'ISP license' in the US. I have a hard time 
imagining Texas of all places would have such a requirement.

Depending on what exactly you are doing, there are various and highly varied 
requirements, such as acquiring a SPIN number for E-Rate, filing FCC
477 if you do broadband, FCC 499 if you do VoIP (CLEC and ETC also apply 
there), a FRN if you do pretty much anything FCC-related, various sorts of 
licenses for most radio/microwave systems (excepting part 15 stuff), CALEA, 
open internet, etc...

COALS _could_ apply _if_ you are running a cable TV system that also delivers 
data services, but it isn't an 'ISP thing'.

More to the point...

I wouldn't take US legal advice from any consultant not familiar with US law, 
or really any non-lawyer consultant at all. I wouldn't take it from NANOG 
either; while it's a tremendous technical resource, it is not your attorney.

There are a number of telecommunications focused law firms out there, with 
knowledgeable lawyers. It would be a good idea to establish a relationship with 
one, if you intend to enter the increasingly complex legal minefield of being 
an ISP.

--Eric

On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 11:24 AM, Dan White  wrote:

> Not familiar with the process, but look at E-rate if you want to 
> provide service to schools, libraries and health providers.
>
>
> On 05/31/16 13:14 -0500, Lorell Hathcock wrote:
>
>> NANOG:
>>
>> Our owner has hired a consultant who insists that we should have an 
>> ISP license to operate in the United States.  (Like they have in 
>> other countries like Germany and in Africa where he has extensive 
>> personal experience.)
>>
>> I am asking him to tell me which license we should have because I 
>> don't know of a license that we are required to have to route IP 
>> traffic to end customers.
>>
>> I am familiar with CLEC status filed with our state.  But it is not a 
>> requirement to pass traffic.
>>
>> He is suggesting COALS with which I am completely unfamiliar.
>>
>> Can anyone tell me if there is a Texas state and/or USA Federal 
>> license for a small operator to pass IP traffic from the internet to 
>> end users (commercial and/or residential).
>>
>> I am aware that there are some CALEA requirements of ISPs that seem 
>> to kick in once a CALEA request is made, but is that different from a 
>> license.
>>
>
> --
> Dan White
> BTC Broadband
>

RE: carrier grade fax boards?

[Ryan Finnesey]

Fax hardware/boards that other members have used  within service provider 
environments to deliver services to their end users .  

-Original Message-
From: valdis.kletni...@vt.edu [mailto:valdis.kletni...@vt.edu] 
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 2:36 AM
To: Ryan Finnesey <r...@finnesey.com>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: carrier grade fax boards?

On Thu, 28 Apr 2016 04:30:23 -, Ryan Finnesey said:
> I was wondering if anyone had any recommendations on carrier grade fax 
> boards that are SIP based?

What would "carrier grade" even *mean* for a fax board?

carrier grade fax boards?

[Ryan Finnesey]

I was wondering if anyone had any recommendations on carrier grade fax boards 
that are SIP based?

Cheers
Ryan

list of .org domain names?

[Ryan Finnesey]

Is it possible to get a complete list of .org domain names that have been 
registered?

Cheers
Ryan

Veeam Cloud Connect?

[Ryan Finnesey]

I was wondering if anyone has deployed Veeam Cloud Connect.  How has Veeam been 
to work with?


Sent from my Windows Phone

Hosted Lync Platform

[Ryan Finnesey]

Is there anyone within the group that is running a Hosted Lync Platform that 
would be open to having a conversation?

Cheers
Ryan

RE: Google Apps for ISPs -- Lingering fallout

[Ryan Finnesey]

I have been working on putting together a program to work with ISPs to offer 
Office 365 I was thinking the Google Apps for ISP shutdown would be an 
opportunity but it seem to be a very different price point.  I have done a 
large number of Google App to Office 365 migration but Google was charging  
around $12 per user.Also a lot within the nonprofit space  witch is a free 
license.  What system did most ISPs move to?

Cheers
Ryan


From: Scott Helms [mailto:khe...@zcorum.com]
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 8:35 AM
To: Ryan Finnesey r...@finnesey.com
Cc: Gary Greene ggre...@minervanetworks.com; Shawn L sha...@up.net; nanog 
nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Google Apps for ISPs -- Lingering fallout

Ryan,

Most certainly, the charges varied some  because of size and other factors but 
it was around 25 cents monthly per Gmail box.


Scott Helms
Vice President of Technology
ZCorum
(678) 507-5000

http://twitter.com/kscotthelms


On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 1:43 AM, Ryan Finnesey 
r...@finnesey.commailto:r...@finnesey.com wrote:
Was Google charging ISPs for this service?

Cheers
Ryan


-Original Message-
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.orgmailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On 
Behalf Of Gary Greene
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 2:18 PM
To: Shawn L sha...@up.netmailto:sha...@up.net
Cc: nanog nanog@nanog.orgmailto:nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Google Apps for ISPs -- Lingering fallout

You’ll need to escalate this with Google. If the front-end support team cannot 
help, move up the chain as far as you can. It should eventually reach the PM 
that worked on the turn-down of that service and get some action.

--
Gary L. Greene, Jr.
Sr. Systems Administrator
IT Operations
Minerva Networks, Inc.
Cell: +1 (650) 704-6633tel:%2B1%20%28650%29%20704-6633




 On Aug 18, 2015, at 10:39 AM, Shawn L sha...@up.netmailto:sha...@up.net 
 wrote:


 I know there are others on this list who used Google Apps for ISPs and 
 recently migrated off (as the service was discontinued).

 We have had several cases where the user had a YouTube channel or Picasa 
 photo albums, etc. that they created with their Google Apps for ISPs 
 credentials.  Now that the service is gone, those channels and albums still 
 exist but the users are unable to login to them or manage them in any way 
 because it tells them that their account has been disabled.

 Of course, Google had been un-responsive to all of our (and the customer's) 
 inquiries about how to fix this.

 Has anyone else run into this and found a way around it?

 thanks


 Shawn

RE: Google Apps for ISPs -- Lingering fallout

[Ryan Finnesey]

Was Google charging ISPs for this service?

Cheers
Ryan


-Original Message-
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Gary Greene
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 2:18 PM
To: Shawn L sha...@up.net
Cc: nanog nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Google Apps for ISPs -- Lingering fallout

You’ll need to escalate this with Google. If the front-end support team cannot 
help, move up the chain as far as you can. It should eventually reach the PM 
that worked on the turn-down of that service and get some action.

--
Gary L. Greene, Jr.
Sr. Systems Administrator
IT Operations
Minerva Networks, Inc.
Cell: +1 (650) 704-6633




 On Aug 18, 2015, at 10:39 AM, Shawn L sha...@up.net wrote:
 
 
 I know there are others on this list who used Google Apps for ISPs and 
 recently migrated off (as the service was discontinued).
 
 We have had several cases where the user had a YouTube channel or Picasa 
 photo albums, etc. that they created with their Google Apps for ISPs 
 credentials.  Now that the service is gone, those channels and albums still 
 exist but the users are unable to login to them or manage them in any way 
 because it tells them that their account has been disabled.
 
 Of course, Google had been un-responsive to all of our (and the customer's) 
 inquiries about how to fix this.
 
 Has anyone else run into this and found a way around it?
 
 thanks
 
 
 Shawn
 

RE: Data Center operations mail list?

[Ryan Finnesey]

Thank you for getting this going.

Sent from my Windows Phone

From: Rafael Possamaimailto:raf...@gav.ufsc.br
Sent: ‎8/‎11/‎2015 9:02 AM
To: Ryan Finneseymailto:r...@finnesey.com
Cc: Chris Boydmailto:cb...@gizmopartners.com; NANOGmailto:nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Data Center operations mail list?

I am setting one up and invited Chris to moderate it with me. I've always 
looked for a list that covers that topic as well. I followed the same name 
style as nanog and registered the nadcog.orghttp://nadcog.org domain.

On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 8:11 PM, Ryan Finnesey 
r...@finnesey.commailto:r...@finnesey.com wrote:
Did you come across one?

Sent from my Windows Phone

From: Chris Boydmailto:cb...@gizmopartners.commailto:cb...@gizmopartners.com
Sent: ‎8/‎6/‎2015 1:04 PM
To: NANOGmailto:nanog@nanog.orgmailto:nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Data Center operations mail list?

Is there a mail list that’s analogous to NANOG, but focused on the data center 
infrastructure and operations?  The shorty.comhttp://shorty.com hosted list 
is defunct.

Thanks, and apologies for the tangential topic.

—Chris

RE: Data Center operations mail list?

[Ryan Finnesey]

Did you come across one?

Sent from my Windows Phone

From: Chris Boydmailto:cb...@gizmopartners.com
Sent: ‎8/‎6/‎2015 1:04 PM
To: NANOGmailto:nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Data Center operations mail list?

Is there a mail list that’s analogous to NANOG, but focused on the data center 
infrastructure and operations?  The shorty.com hosted list is defunct.

Thanks, and apologies for the tangential topic.

—Chris

RE: Nonprofits - Office 365

[Ryan Finnesey]

Hi Nick

The free licenses are a standard offer from Microsoft but what is not available 
is the onboarding and consulting services to migrate data and help the 
origination get started with Office 365  this is the value- add .
Cheers
Ryan


From: Nicholas Harland [mailto:nharl...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 2:55 PM
To: Ryan Finnesey
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Nonprofits - Office 365

Hi,

While I'm sure Ryan's intentions are good, I would like to point out that this 
is a standard offer available directly from Microsoft.

http://www.microsoft.com/about/corporatecitizenship/en-us/office365-for-nonprofits/

Nick Harland

On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 8:10 PM, Ryan Finnesey 
r...@finnesey.commailto:r...@finnesey.com wrote:
I apologize for the somewhat off topic post but I would assume some of you 
might get asked for tech advice from your favorite nonprofits or charity's.  I 
am looking for nonprofits that would be able to make use of free Office 365 
licenses and discounted  Office 365 Pro Plus licenses at $2 each.  This 
donation would also come with free consulting services to setup Office 365 and 
migrate any data.

Cheers
Ryan

Nonprofits - Office 365

[Ryan Finnesey]

I apologize for the somewhat off topic post but I would assume some of you 
might get asked for tech advice from your favorite nonprofits or charity's.  I 
am looking for nonprofits that would be able to make use of free Office 365 
licenses and discounted  Office 365 Pro Plus licenses at $2 each.  This 
donation would also come with free consulting services to setup Office 365 and 
migrate any data.

Cheers
Ryan

Registrar Accreditation

[Ryan Finnesey]

Has anyone gone through the ICANN Registrar Accreditation process and would 
have any tips or insight they can share?

Cheers
Ryan


Sent from my iPad

VZW - fixed wireless services?

[Ryan Finnesey]

Does anyone know if Verizon is using its LTE network to offer fixed wireless 
services?  I know Sprint was working on WiMAX hardware with cisco but I assume 
that was canceled when Sprint started moving to LTE.

Cheers
Ryan

RE: VZW - fixed wireless services?

[Ryan Finnesey]

Do you happen to know the rates or where I can find more information on the 
offering?

From: Mike Lyon [mailto:mike.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2014 1:12 AM
To: Ryan Finnesey
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: VZW - fixed wireless services?

Yes, they are. At least out here in Silicon Valley they are.

-Mike





On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 10:06 PM, Ryan Finnesey 
r...@finnesey.commailto:r...@finnesey.com wrote:
Does anyone know if Verizon is using its LTE network to offer fixed wireless 
services?  I know Sprint was working on WiMAX hardware with cisco but I assume 
that was canceled when Sprint started moving to LTE.

Cheers
Ryan



--
Mike Lyon
408-621-4826
mike.l...@gmail.commailto:mike.l...@gmail.com

http://www.linkedin.com/in/mlyon

Merry Christmas

[Ryan Finnesey]

Wanted to wish everyone a Marry Christmas and all the best in the New Year!

Cheers
Ryan

RE: Remote Hands Nation-Wide?

[Ryan Finnesey]

Great list to know about I just joined thank you 

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Morrow [mailto:morrowc.li...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 2:47 PM
To: Brandon Galbraith
Cc: NANOG mailing list
Subject: Re: Remote Hands Nation-Wide?

there's also a mailing-list Warren Kumari setup ... there are folk in the DC 
area (myself and warren) who have on occasion helped out with these sorts of 
things.

http://www.ne-where.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ne-where

I think is the thing in question...

On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Brandon Galbraith 
brandon.galbra...@gmail.com wrote:
 http://nanog.cluepon.net/index.php/Hands

RE: Could not send email to office 365

[Ryan Finnesey]

I am also having the some issues going on 3 weeks now.  I cannot access my 
e-mail via Outlook and my MX records keep changing.  It is nuts support has 
been unable to help.  

From: JoeSox
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 9:24 AM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Could not send email to office 365

The company I work for has been having Outlook connectivity issues
(intermittent for only a few end users) for the past 7 days for Office 365.
We are in an upgrade status (on the 18th days or so; have been told it can
last 30 days) and they changed our MX records without formal notification.
We updated those on a Thursday or Friday and it worked until the following
Monday where we observed it again, then magically fixed itself late
afternoon that Monday. We had some more reports yesterday. The Microsoft
technical support has not been helpful troubleshooting this for us.
I am hoping it is related to our upgrade status but I cannot get an answer
from anyone.
--
Thanks, Joe


On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 2:21 AM, ISHII, Yuji y...@ugec.net wrote:

 Hello folks,

 Have you ever seen DNS issues on Office 365?

 MX record of Office 365 is example.mail.eo.outlook.com.
 I can get the MX record, however, I could not get the A record of the MX
 record, got Timeout.

 Does anyone have the same issue?

 Sincerely,
 Yuji

RE: Could not send email to office 365

[Ryan Finnesey]

We have fixed the problem.  I had to complete a clear install of Outlook and 
remove the credentials that where on the computer in the control panel under 
credential manager.  This may also fix/help with your issue.

Cheers
Ryan


-Original Message-
From: Tony Patti [mailto:t...@swalter.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 1:19 PM
To: Ryan Finnesey; 'JoeSox'; nanog@nanog.org
Subject: RE: Could not send email to office 365

After our upgrade, we started to see the body of received PLAIN TEXT emails 
truncated at less than 256 bytes, which frequently truncated emails in the 
middle of a word, the fix was a setting change.

Since being standardized in 1982 with RFC 822, you would think PLAIN TEXT 
emails would just work out of the box.

Tony

-Original Message-
From: Ryan Finnesey [mailto:r...@finnesey.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 11:42 AM
To: JoeSox; nanog@nanog.org
Subject: RE: Could not send email to office 365

I am also having the some issues going on 3 weeks now.  I cannot access my 
e-mail via Outlook and my MX records keep changing.  It is nuts support has 
been unable to help.  

From: JoeSox
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2013 9:24 AM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Could not send email to office 365

The company I work for has been having Outlook connectivity issues 
(intermittent for only a few end users) for the past 7 days for Office 365.
We are in an upgrade status (on the 18th days or so; have been told it can last 
30 days) and they changed our MX records without formal notification.
We updated those on a Thursday or Friday and it worked until the following 
Monday where we observed it again, then magically fixed itself late afternoon 
that Monday. We had some more reports yesterday. The Microsoft technical 
support has not been helpful troubleshooting this for us.
I am hoping it is related to our upgrade status but I cannot get an answer from 
anyone.
--
Thanks, Joe


On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 2:21 AM, ISHII, Yuji y...@ugec.net wrote:

 Hello folks,

 Have you ever seen DNS issues on Office 365?

 MX record of Office 365 is example.mail.eo.outlook.com.
 I can get the MX record, however, I could not get the A record of the 
 MX record, got Timeout.

 Does anyone have the same issue?

 Sincerely,
 Yuji

RE: Could not send email to office 365

[Ryan Finnesey]

Yes we are just working out our licensing agreement and moving Exchange back in 
house.  From talking with people BPOS (Exchange 2007) was a mess.  We were on 
Office 365 with Exchange 2010 without issue service worked very well.  Then 
they upgraded us to Exchange 2013 and it is just broken we are unable to 
connect. I thought the problem is fixed but now it is back.

-Original Message-
From: Warren Bailey [mailto:wbai...@satelliteintelligencegroup.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 12:12 PM
To: JoeSox; nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Could not send email to office 365

Just another day for them.. Office 365 has been broken for us for a long time. 
I've been thinking about a rackspace hosted exchange instead.. Have you guys 
looked into alternatives?


Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device



 Original message 
From: JoeSox joe...@gmail.com
Date: 05/01/2013 6:27 AM (GMT-08:00)
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Could not send email to office 365


The company I work for has been having Outlook connectivity issues 
(intermittent for only a few end users) for the past 7 days for Office 365.
We are in an upgrade status (on the 18th days or so; have been told it can last 
30 days) and they changed our MX records without formal notification.
We updated those on a Thursday or Friday and it worked until the following 
Monday where we observed it again, then magically fixed itself late afternoon 
that Monday. We had some more reports yesterday. The Microsoft technical 
support has not been helpful troubleshooting this for us.
I am hoping it is related to our upgrade status but I cannot get an answer from 
anyone.
--
Thanks, Joe


On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 2:21 AM, ISHII, Yuji y...@ugec.net wrote:

 Hello folks,

 Have you ever seen DNS issues on Office 365?

 MX record of Office 365 is example.mail.eo.outlook.com.
 I can get the MX record, however, I could not get the A record of the 
 MX record, got Timeout.

 Does anyone have the same issue?

 Sincerely,
 Yuji

RE: Data Center Installations

[Ryan Finnesey]

Wish there was Frys in the east 

-Original Message-
From: George Herbert [mailto:george.herb...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 3:42 PM
To: Joe Hamelin
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Data Center Installations

Seconded Graybar.  If necessary, in the absence of Graybar or for tiny stuff, a 
Frys or Home Depot or Lowes.


On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Joe Hamelin j...@nethead.com wrote:

 Graybar.

 --
 Joe Hamelin, W7COM, Tulalip, WA, 360-474-7474


 On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Warren Bailey  
 wbai...@satelliteintelligencegroup.com wrote:

  Do any of you have a go to resource for materials used in
 installations?
  Tie wraps, cable management, blahblahblah?
 
  I have found several places, but I'm curious to know what the nanog 
  ninja's have to say.
 
  //warren
 
 




--
-george william herbert
george.herb...@gmail.com

RE: Could not send email to office 365

[Ryan Finnesey]

It was in upgrade status for about 15 days.  We had to open a separate ticket 
to fix the upgrade but even after they completed the upgrade I was unable to 
connect.  

-Original Message-
From: JoeSox [mailto:joe...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 12:28 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Could not send email to office 365

Ryan,
Is your Office 365 account also in an upgrade status? If not, have you 
completed the upgrade?
--
Thanks, Joe


On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 8:42 AM, Ryan Finnesey r...@finnesey.com wrote:

 I am also having the some issues going on 3 weeks now.  I cannot 
 access my e-mail via Outlook and my MX records keep changing.  It is 
 nuts support has been unable to help.
 
   

RE: Data Center Installations

[Ryan Finnesey]

Graybar is great 

-Original Message-
From: Joe Hamelin [mailto:j...@nethead.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 3:32 PM
To: Warren Bailey
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Data Center Installations

Graybar.

--
Joe Hamelin, W7COM, Tulalip, WA, 360-474-7474


On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Warren Bailey  
wbai...@satelliteintelligencegroup.com wrote:

 Do any of you have a go to resource for materials used in installations?
 Tie wraps, cable management, blahblahblah?

 I have found several places, but I'm curious to know what the nanog 
 ninja's have to say.

 //warren

Re: Data Center Installations

[Ryan Finnesey]

Never been to MicroCenter

Sent from my iPad mini

On May 2, 2013, at 1:05 AM, shawn wilson 
ag4ve...@gmail.commailto:ag4ve...@gmail.com wrote:


I'm more impressed with MicroCenter than Frys (at least the Frys south if SF).

If you need RF I used to order from Davis RF all the time.

On May 2, 2013 12:57 AM, Ryan Finnesey 
r...@finnesey.commailto:r...@finnesey.com wrote:
Wish there was Frys in the east

-Original Message-
From: George Herbert 
[mailto:george.herb...@gmail.commailto:george.herb...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 3:42 PM
To: Joe Hamelin
Cc: nanog@nanog.orgmailto:nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Data Center Installations

Seconded Graybar.  If necessary, in the absence of Graybar or for tiny stuff, a 
Frys or Home Depot or Lowes.


On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Joe Hamelin 
j...@nethead.commailto:j...@nethead.com wrote:

 Graybar.

 --
 Joe Hamelin, W7COM, Tulalip, WA, 360-474-7474tel:360-474-7474


 On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Warren Bailey 
 wbai...@satelliteintelligencegroup.commailto:wbai...@satelliteintelligencegroup.com
  wrote:

  Do any of you have a go to resource for materials used in
 installations?
  Tie wraps, cable management, blahblahblah?
 
  I have found several places, but I'm curious to know what the nanog
  ninja's have to say.
 
  //warren
 
 




--
-george william herbert
george.herb...@gmail.commailto:george.herb...@gmail.com

RE: Wells Fargo getting DDoSed ?

[Ryan Finnesey]

I have been having issues with their iPad App all day 

-Original Message-
From: Jayram Déshpandé [mailto:jayde...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 4, 2013 4:38 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Wells Fargo getting DDoSed ?

I observed that since morning Wells Fargo web services are either not reachable 
or are really slow.
I think they are getting DDoSed again. Any official information yet ?

Regards,
-Jay.



--
Subvert the paradigm. - C.K. Prahlad

EQUINIX

[Ryan Finnesey]

What's the going rate now a days for a rack within EQUINIX?

Cheers
Ryan

RE: Wired access to SMS?

[Ryan Finnesey]

I have been happy with the services from twilio

Cheers
Ryan


-Original Message-
From: Joly MacFie [mailto:j...@punkcast.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 8:24 PM
To: Tim M Edwards
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Wired access to SMS?

More precisely http://www.twilio.com/sms

j

On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Tim M Edwards t...@lifelike.com wrote:

 Twillio.com

 On Oct 9, 2012, at 12:36 PM, William Herrin b...@herrin.us wrote:

  Hi Folks,
 
  I'm looking for a way to do wireline access to send and receive 
  cellular phone short message service (SMS) messages. Despite all my 
  google-fu, I have had limited luck finding anyone that meets my 
  needs, so I'm hoping someone here has found the path through. My 
  main criteria are:
 
 
  1. Low quantity, high reliability. I'll want a few dozen phone 
  numbers and effectively I'll be sending to and receiving from phones I own.
  2. Wireline delivery to Honolulu and Northern Virginia. Dynamically 
  move numbers between the two locations for failover purposes.
  3. U.S. based carrier. Tying in to the SMS system via Europe isn't 
  acceptable to my customer.
  4. Solution must reach phones on all U.S. cellular carriers.
  5. Price is a very distant fifth criteria to the preceding four.
 
  I can consider Internet based systems where the provider uses U.S.
  based facilities and ties in to a U.S. phone network, provided that 
  my standards of reliability and redundancy are met by their 
  infrastructure.
 
  Alternately, I can also consider a wireless carrier that can provide 
  two SIM-based phones with the same phone number for sending and 
  receiving SMS messages. I'd put the sims in a pair of modems and 
  manage deduplication of the received messages in software.
 
 
  Has anybody had any luck with this kind of requirement? Which 
  vendors should I talk to and who at the vendor?
 
  Thanks,
  Bill Herrin
 
 
  --
  William D. Herrin  her...@dirtside.com  
  b...@herrin.us
  3005 Crane Dr. .. Web: http://bill.herrin.us/ 
  Falls Church, VA 22042-3004
 




--
---
Joly MacFie  218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast WWWhatsup NYC - http://wwwhatsup.com  
http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com  VP (Admin) - ISOC-NY - 
http://isoc-ny.org
--
-

RE: Verizon 3G/4G Mobile Internet Sales Contact?

[Ryan Finnesey]

I am using what is called Verizon Private Network on 4G witch gives me
private Static IPs.

Cheers
Ryan


-Original Message-
From: PC [mailto:paul4...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 10:10 AM
To: chris
Cc: NANOG list
Subject: Re: Verizon 3G/4G Mobile Internet Sales Contact?

From my experience:

IPV4 Static IPs nor private IP service are currently available on the 4g
service (I asked).

Even the routable IPV6 Static IPs can not receive remote traffic (at least
they failed to get ESP traffic when I tried to build a VPN with them because
the ipv4 address provided was carrier-grade natted).  This, they seem too
clueless to provide any further input on after many attempts (they don't
know IPV6) even after calling Tier 2 support from a customer account with
2,000+ telemetry data lines.  Their IPV6 clue is very low.  The reps cared,
they just couldn't find anyone who knew the product and gave up.

For the IPV4 3g, the tech support should be able to sell you one, but it has
a $500 setup fee or something similarly absurd, making it very uneconomical
for a single unit.

On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 9:57 AM, chris tknch...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello,

 If anyone has any contact info for the correct department within 
 Verizon which handles getting a mobile internet service via 3G/4G, 
 that would be a huge help. I am trying to avoid the usual Verizon 
 runaround of being transferred from dept to dept because no one has 
 any idea what I'm talking about. I also would preferably like a static 
 IP if possible. Tried contacting Verizon Wireless and they are trying 
 to sell me a MiFi and have no idea what a static IP is :)

 Thanks,
 chris

RE: Verizon 3G/4G Mobile Internet Sales Contact?

[Ryan Finnesey]

Both AtT and Sprint have a static offering as well.

Cheers
Ryan


-Original Message-
From: chris [mailto:tknch...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 10:44 AM
To: PC
Cc: NANOG list
Subject: Re: Verizon 3G/4G Mobile Internet Sales Contact?

On that note, any other carriers who do have static IP offerings at a
reasonable price? Just looking for OOB really, unlimited data would be nice
too so it doesnt have to be worried about

On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 10:10 AM, PC paul4...@gmail.com wrote:

 From my experience:

 IPV4 Static IPs nor private IP service are currently available on the 
 4g service (I asked).

 Even the routable IPV6 Static IPs can not receive remote traffic (at 
 least they failed to get ESP traffic when I tried to build a VPN with 
 them because the ipv4 address provided was carrier-grade natted).  
 This, they seem too clueless to provide any further input on after 
 many attempts (they don't know IPV6) even after calling Tier 2 support 
 from a customer account with 2,000+ telemetry data lines.  Their IPV6 
 clue is very low.  The reps cared, they just couldn't find anyone who knew
the product and gave up.

 For the IPV4 3g, the tech support should be able to sell you one, but 
 it has a $500 setup fee or something similarly absurd, making it very 
 uneconomical for a single unit.

 On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 9:57 AM, chris tknch...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello,

 If anyone has any contact info for the correct department within 
 Verizon which handles getting a mobile internet service via 3G/4G, 
 that would be a huge help. I am trying to avoid the usual Verizon 
 runaround of being transferred from dept to dept because no one has 
 any idea what I'm talking about. I also would preferably like a 
 static IP if possible. Tried contacting Verizon Wireless and they are 
 trying to sell me a MiFi and have no idea what a static IP is :)

 Thanks,
 chris

RE: Cell-based OOB management devices

[Ryan Finnesey]

We do this with att with a custom APN works great no need to VPN.  If you want 
to use Sprint take a look at Sprint Data Link.  You can use your IPs on the 
data cards.

Cheers
Ryan


-Original Message-
From: rche...@rochester.rr.com [mailto:rche...@rochester.rr.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 6:41 AM
To: nanog@nanog.org; David Hubbard
Subject: Re: Cell-based OOB management devices

David, a Sprint aircard can be had with a static-ip, so that should ease remote 
connectivity requirements. Or, you can opt for the Datalink (private VPN) 
service, which separates your aircard traffic from other customers within a 
VRF, obviating the need to run a separate VPN client.


-RC


 David Hubbard dhubb...@dino.hostasaurus.com wrote: 
 Hi all, I am looking at cellular-based devices as a higher speed 
 alternative to dial-up backup access methods for out of band 
 management during emergencies.  I was wondering if anyone had 
 experiences with such devices they could share?
 
 Devices I've found include Sierra Wireless AirLink Raven X, Digi's 
 ConnectWAN 3G or 4G and Opengear's ACM5004-G.  I have no experience 
 with any but they all appear to support the Sprint network which I 
 assume would be ideal due to not having usage caps on data 
 (currently).  The Opengear device runs linux and has four serial 
 ports, a usb port for additional storage and ethernet, so it seems to 
 have some small advantages over the others since it could double as an 
 emergency self-contained management station you can SSH into and run 
 diagnostics from.  All appear to have VPN/gateway support.
 
 What none of them are clear on is how you would connect to it over 
 cellular since I assume you're just paying for a typical data plan and 
 it will randomly obtain IP addresses.  Maybe some type of dynamic dns 
 service so you can easily figure out your device's current IP?  How 
 stable is the access to the device?  Any idea if any of them can do 
 ipv6?
 
 Thanks!
 
 David
 
 

RE: Cell-based OOB management devices

[Ryan Finnesey]

We pay $4 per SIM with att then about $2.50 per MB.

 

Cheers

Ryan

 

 

From: PC [mailto:paul4...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 12:15 PM
To: Ryan Finnesey
Cc: rche...@rochester.rr.com; nanog@nanog.org; David Hubbard
Subject: Re: Cell-based OOB management devices

 

Second this.  Custom APN to ATT with ipsec lan2lan VPN built to the
provider.  Works great for this.

Once you get rid of the vpn need, you can use any cheap console server.
I've seen solutions ranging from little opengear boxes (which are great to
ship to a remote site to help a tech set something up, BTW), to home-brew
solutions involving anything that can run OpenWRT, has a usb port, and can
run screen or ser2net.

Prices for low volume (10mb/month) data plans typically are less than analog
lines, too.




On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 10:05 AM, Ryan Finnesey rfinne...@gmail.com wrote:

We do this with att with a custom APN works great no need to VPN.  If you
want to use Sprint take a look at Sprint Data Link.  You can use your IPs on
the data cards.

Cheers
Ryan



-Original Message-
From: rche...@rochester.rr.com [mailto:rche...@rochester.rr.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 6:41 AM
To: nanog@nanog.org; David Hubbard
Subject: Re: Cell-based OOB management devices

David, a Sprint aircard can be had with a static-ip, so that should ease
remote connectivity requirements. Or, you can opt for the Datalink (private
VPN) service, which separates your aircard traffic from other customers
within a VRF, obviating the need to run a separate VPN client.


-RC


 David Hubbard dhubb...@dino.hostasaurus.com wrote:
 Hi all, I am looking at cellular-based devices as a higher speed
 alternative to dial-up backup access methods for out of band
 management during emergencies.  I was wondering if anyone had
 experiences with such devices they could share?

 Devices I've found include Sierra Wireless AirLink Raven X, Digi's
 ConnectWAN 3G or 4G and Opengear's ACM5004-G.  I have no experience
 with any but they all appear to support the Sprint network which I
 assume would be ideal due to not having usage caps on data
 (currently).  The Opengear device runs linux and has four serial
 ports, a usb port for additional storage and ethernet, so it seems to
 have some small advantages over the others since it could double as an
 emergency self-contained management station you can SSH into and run
 diagnostics from.  All appear to have VPN/gateway support.

 What none of them are clear on is how you would connect to it over
 cellular since I assume you're just paying for a typical data plan and
 it will randomly obtain IP addresses.  Maybe some type of dynamic dns
 service so you can easily figure out your device's current IP?  How
 stable is the access to the device?  Any idea if any of them can do
 ipv6?

 Thanks!

 David







 

Mexico?

[Ryan Finnesey]

If I want to get a block of IP's issued for a network within Mexico who do I
talk with?  I have been told arin does not cover Mexico.  It was my
understand arin covers North America.

 

Cheers

Ryan

 

RE: Steve Jobs has died

[Ryan Finnesey]

Sad day for all.  He will be missed 

-Original Message-
From: Alex Rubenstein [mailto:a...@corp.nac.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 8:15 PM
To: 'NANOG list'
Subject: Steve Jobs has died

Not entirely on-list-topic, but still relevant.


http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-20116336-37/apple-co-founder-chairman-stev
e-jobs-dies/?tag=cnetRiver

RE: insurance

[Ryan Finnesey]

-Original Message-
From: Brant I. Stevens [mailto:bra...@networking-architecture.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 10:33 AM
To: valdis.kletni...@vt.edu; harbor235
Cc: NANOG list
Subject: Re: insurance



On 9/20/11 9:11 AM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu valdis.kletni...@vt.edu
wrote:

On Tue, 20 Sep 2011 07:59:00 EDT, harbor235 said:
 Curious if anyone out there is acting as an independent contractor, 
 consultant,  or small business, if so do you use professional 
 liability insurance?

Many clients won't do business with you unless you provide the certificate
indicating you have the appropriate level of coverage.  In the networking
business, this can often be 1 or 2 million dollars.


I don't consult myself, but is *anybody* crazy enough to do consulting 
in the litigation-crazy US without carrying errors-and-omissions 
insurance?
I'm sure there are some people who do, but I'd say they were stupid over
crazy.



[Ryan Finnesey] At one of the User Groups I run the pizza place needs 6
million dollars in insurance just to make a delivery to the building.

Cheers
Ryan

RE: Point to MultiPoint VPN w/qos

[Ryan Finnesey]

DMVPN would only work with 100% cisco hardware right?  

-Original Message-
From: Brant I. Stevens [mailto:bra...@networking-architecture.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 10:26 AM
To: Brandon Kim; positivelyoptimis...@gmail.com; nanog group
Subject: Re: Point to MultiPoint VPN w/qos

I would go with Cisco's DMVPN, and its multiple endpoint offerings.  A 19xx
router sounds like it would meet your needs for the remotes.

Spoke-to-Spoke tunnels are created on-demand, can use dynamic routing, and
it supports multicast for things like Music on Hold, etc.

Contact me offline and I can share more.

-Brant

On 9/6/11 10:19 AM, Brandon Kim brandon@brandontek.com wrote:


Yes, a SonicWALL NSA 240 has 8 interfaces built in

This sounds like a very fun project



 Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 08:49:13 -0500
 Subject: Point to MultiPoint VPN w/qos
 From: positivelyoptimis...@gmail.com
 To: nanog@nanog.org
 
 Greetings
 
 We have acquired a new client that has 98 remote endpoints.  At each 
site  there is a need for 4 ip telephones and two vpn tunnels back to
 two separate datacenters.  (1 voice, 1 citrix farm).   The sites don't
talk
 to each other, just to the two data centers.
 
 Does anyone have a suggestion for a single piece of hardware that 
 would support 8 or less Ethernet interfaces and the two vpn tunnels ?
 
 Thanks
 -Optimistic
 

RE: Verizon Business - LTE?

[Ryan Finnesey]

With the dongle but installed in a cradlepoint with a high gain antenna
Cheers
Ryan

-Original Message-
From: Charles N Wyble [mailto:char...@knownelement.com] 
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 11:37 AM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Verizon Business - LTE?

On 08/13/2011 11:52 PM, Ryan Finnesey wrote:
 The  two problems I have with Clear is that it does not work well 
 indoors

Oh? The dongle you mean? Yes. The dongle is complete garbage. The Motorolla
CPE has been top notch. Tried it various places in my apartment (near
window, not near window). Key element for good performance is 0 blockage of
the antenna. Though even with a dell desktop in front of it, the performance
was decent.

 (major problem for air ports) and that they will not route my IP block 
 over there network.

That's annoying.

RE: Verizon Business - LTE?

[Ryan Finnesey]

b/c of coverage issues.

Cheers
Ryan


-Original Message-
From: Charles N Wyble [mailto:char...@knownelement.com] 
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 11:31 AM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Verizon Business - LTE?

On 08/13/2011 12:54 PM, Ryan Finnesey wrote:

 I was hoping to use LTE for a large number of sites we are about to 
 roll out instead of DS1s.  But looks like we will go down the TDM route.


Why is that?

I ran a nationwide network of digital signage systems with about 500 of them
being 3g (mix of Sprint and Verizon). Worked really well, except for the PRL
updates. For some reason the AT command set to do the update didn't work.
Never did get that figured out (was pulled off that project to come up with
a way to convert the systems from Fedora to Debian without rolling a tech. I
did get that project done. It was awesome). 
Now that startup is pretty much defunct. Hmmm... that's an idea for another
thread (management of boxes that aren't in a colo).



 Cheers

 Ryan

 *From:*Cameron Byrne [mailto:cb.li...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Saturday, August 13, 2011 12:56 AM
 *To:* Ryan Finnesey
 *Cc:* nanog@nanog.org; Charles N Wyble
 *Subject:* RE: Verizon Business - LTE?


 On Aug 12, 2011 8:40 PM, Ryan Finnesey rfinne...@gmail.com 
 mailto:rfinne...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Well they are two completely separate companies .  I would think
 that the
  LTE network would be a good replacement for DS1 type services.
 

 My guess is no.

 Yes, I bet vzw buys from vzb, but not the other way round. Whatever 
 you call the vz LEC does not want to give 40 some cents on the dollar 
 to Vodafone ... the other part of the vzw ownership.

 Not to mention that LTE is an IP service and ds1 is tdm...

 Cb

  -Original Message-
  From: Charles N Wyble [mailto:char...@knownelement.com
 mailto:char...@knownelement.com]
  Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 11:26 PM
  To: nanog@nanog.org mailto:nanog@nanog.org
  Subject: Re: Verizon Business - LTE?
 
  On 08/12/2011 10:23 PM, Ryan Finnesey wrote:
   Does anyone know if Verizon Business is using the Verizon Wireless 
   LTE network to deliver service?
 
  Who else would they use? I would presume they are eating their own
 dog food.
  If not, that's very sad. :)
 
 
 
 
 

RE: Verizon Business - LTE?

[Ryan Finnesey]

I was hoping to use LTE for a large number of sites we are about to roll out
instead of DS1s.  But looks like we will go down the TDM route.

 

Cheers

Ryan

 

 

From: Cameron Byrne [mailto:cb.li...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 12:56 AM
To: Ryan Finnesey
Cc: nanog@nanog.org; Charles N Wyble
Subject: RE: Verizon Business - LTE?

 


On Aug 12, 2011 8:40 PM, Ryan Finnesey rfinne...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well they are two completely separate companies .  I would think that the
 LTE network would be a good replacement for DS1 type services.


My guess is no.

Yes, I bet vzw buys from vzb, but not the other way round. Whatever you call
the vz LEC does not want to give 40 some cents on the dollar to Vodafone ...
the other part of the vzw ownership.

Not to mention that LTE is an IP service and ds1 is tdm...

Cb

 -Original Message-
 From: Charles N Wyble [mailto:char...@knownelement.com]
 Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 11:26 PM
 To: nanog@nanog.org
 Subject: Re: Verizon Business - LTE?

 On 08/12/2011 10:23 PM, Ryan Finnesey wrote:
  Does anyone know if Verizon Business is using the Verizon Wireless LTE
  network to deliver service?

 Who else would they use? I would presume they are eating their own dog
food.
 If not, that's very sad. :)

RE: Verizon Business - LTE?

[Ryan Finnesey]

I have been very happy with the preference of the VZW network.  Both 3G and
4G.  The issue we have is that they have a 5GB cap.  We have tested both the
3G and 4G HWIC for cisco and have been very happy with the hardware.

 

Cheers

Ryan

 

 

From: chris [mailto:tknch...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 2:09 PM
To: Ryan Finnesey
Cc: Cameron Byrne; nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Verizon Business - LTE?

 

I'm in princeton, nj and I recently moved into a new place and had no
internet for about a week and had my router in client mode grabbing hotspot
from my phone and it worked surprisingly well. Of course latency can be a
bit jumpy but my speeds overall were better than the neighbors comcast :) I
also pulled down about 150gb over that week and each day I was waiting for
verizon to pull the plug but it never happened. Speeds were consistently
around 20/10.

 

I looked around but couldnt find any reasonably cheap 4G interface cards for
any of the major router vendors otherwise I might have actually considered
it as my home needs are pretty basic.

 

chris

On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 1:54 PM, Ryan Finnesey rfinne...@gmail.com wrote:

I was hoping to use LTE for a large number of sites we are about to roll out
instead of DS1s.  But looks like we will go down the TDM route.



Cheers

Ryan





From: Cameron Byrne [mailto:cb.li...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 12:56 AM
To: Ryan Finnesey
Cc: nanog@nanog.org; Charles N Wyble
Subject: RE: Verizon Business - LTE?





On Aug 12, 2011 8:40 PM, Ryan Finnesey rfinne...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well they are two completely separate companies .  I would think that the
 LTE network would be a good replacement for DS1 type services.


My guess is no.

Yes, I bet vzw buys from vzb, but not the other way round. Whatever you call
the vz LEC does not want to give 40 some cents on the dollar to Vodafone ...
the other part of the vzw ownership.

Not to mention that LTE is an IP service and ds1 is tdm...

Cb

 -Original Message-
 From: Charles N Wyble [mailto:char...@knownelement.com]
 Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 11:26 PM
 To: nanog@nanog.org
 Subject: Re: Verizon Business - LTE?

 On 08/12/2011 10:23 PM, Ryan Finnesey wrote:
  Does anyone know if Verizon Business is using the Verizon Wireless LTE
  network to deliver service?

 Who else would they use? I would presume they are eating their own dog
food.
 If not, that's very sad. :)






 

RE: Verizon Business - LTE?

[Ryan Finnesey]

We are looking to use the Cisco 3G/4G card
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps11540/index.html We can pick them up
for about $250 for the 3G and $350 for the 4G.

 

From: chris [mailto:tknch...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 7:59 PM
To: Ryan Finnesey
Cc: Cameron Byrne; nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Verizon Business - LTE?

 

What plan are you using? My htc thunderbolt has unlimited 4g on the phone
and for my hotspot so I'd imagine there is something similar for standalone
hardware?

 

chris 

On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 7:54 PM, Ryan Finnesey rfinne...@gmail.com wrote:

I have been very happy with the preference of the VZW network.  Both 3G and
4G.  The issue we have is that they have a 5GB cap.  We have tested both the
3G and 4G HWIC for cisco and have been very happy with the hardware.

 

Cheers

Ryan

 

 

From: chris [mailto:tknch...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 2:09 PM
To: Ryan Finnesey
Cc: Cameron Byrne; nanog@nanog.org


Subject: Re: Verizon Business - LTE?

 

I'm in princeton, nj and I recently moved into a new place and had no
internet for about a week and had my router in client mode grabbing hotspot
from my phone and it worked surprisingly well. Of course latency can be a
bit jumpy but my speeds overall were better than the neighbors comcast :) I
also pulled down about 150gb over that week and each day I was waiting for
verizon to pull the plug but it never happened. Speeds were consistently
around 20/10.

 

I looked around but couldnt find any reasonably cheap 4G interface cards for
any of the major router vendors otherwise I might have actually considered
it as my home needs are pretty basic.

 

chris

On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 1:54 PM, Ryan Finnesey rfinne...@gmail.com wrote:

I was hoping to use LTE for a large number of sites we are about to roll out
instead of DS1s.  But looks like we will go down the TDM route.



Cheers

Ryan





From: Cameron Byrne [mailto:cb.li...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 12:56 AM
To: Ryan Finnesey
Cc: nanog@nanog.org; Charles N Wyble
Subject: RE: Verizon Business - LTE?





On Aug 12, 2011 8:40 PM, Ryan Finnesey rfinne...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well they are two completely separate companies .  I would think that the
 LTE network would be a good replacement for DS1 type services.


My guess is no.

Yes, I bet vzw buys from vzb, but not the other way round. Whatever you call
the vz LEC does not want to give 40 some cents on the dollar to Vodafone ...
the other part of the vzw ownership.

Not to mention that LTE is an IP service and ds1 is tdm...

Cb

 -Original Message-
 From: Charles N Wyble [mailto:char...@knownelement.com]
 Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 11:26 PM
 To: nanog@nanog.org
 Subject: Re: Verizon Business - LTE?

 On 08/12/2011 10:23 PM, Ryan Finnesey wrote:
  Does anyone know if Verizon Business is using the Verizon Wireless LTE
  network to deliver service?

 Who else would they use? I would presume they are eating their own dog
food.
 If not, that's very sad. :)






 

 

RE: Verizon Business - LTE?

[Ryan Finnesey]

The  two problems I have with Clear is that it does not work well indoors
(major problem for air ports) and that they will not route my IP block over
there network.

Cheers
Ryan


-Original Message-
From: Kevin Day [mailto:toa...@dragondata.com] 
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 9:11 PM
To: chris
Cc: Ryan Finnesey; nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Verizon Business - LTE?


On Aug 13, 2011, at 6:58 PM, chris wrote:

 What plan are you using? My htc thunderbolt has unlimited 4g on the 
 phone and for my hotspot so I'd imagine there is something similar for 
 standalone hardware?
 
 chris

Verizon, ATT and T-Mobile have all dropped their unlimited plans. If you're
on one now, you're grandfathered in, but they are no longer orderable.
Sprint is the only major carrier left with unlimited data you can order. If
you want purely data only, Clear.com also has unlimited plans, but only
within their area.

The next closest thing is U.S. Cellular, if you're in their area. They have
a 5GB cap, with $0.25/MB overage, but the overage(even when roaming) is
capped at $200/mo.  If you really want to use it as unlimited, you can
basically treat it as an unlimited connection for ~$250/mo.

Verizon Business - LTE?

[Ryan Finnesey]

Does anyone know if Verizon Business is using the Verizon Wireless LTE
network to deliver service?

 

Cheers

Ryan

 

RE: Verizon Business - LTE?

[Ryan Finnesey]

Well they are two completely separate companies .  I would think that the
LTE network would be a good replacement for DS1 type services.  

-Original Message-
From: Charles N Wyble [mailto:char...@knownelement.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 11:26 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Verizon Business - LTE?

On 08/12/2011 10:23 PM, Ryan Finnesey wrote:
 Does anyone know if Verizon Business is using the Verizon Wireless LTE 
 network to deliver service?

Who else would they use? I would presume they are eating their own dog food.
If not, that's very sad. :)

RE: best practices for management nets in IPv6

[Ryan Finnesey]

We keep running into problem with our IPv6 roll out.  I just confirmed
today that Exchange does not fully support IPv6

Cheers
Ryan


-Original Message-
From: Doug Barton [mailto:do...@dougbarton.us] 
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 4:59 PM
To: Tim Franklin
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: best practices for management nets in IPv6

On 07/18/2011 06:12, Tim Franklin wrote:
 You can also use IPv6 privacy extensions (by default on Windows 7), 
 see rfc4941. For Linux, you can also enable it, which is not a 
 default.
 
 In the context of addresses I'm using to manage kit, having devices 
 randomly renumber themselves at regular intervals does *not* sound 
 like it's going to make my life easy :(

In IPv4 most people use static assignments for servers, and often use
dynamic assignments for client hosts (e.g., DHCP). The IPv6 world is not
different. If you don't want privacy addresses for your servers (and
it's unlikely that you would) you just make sure that they are not
enabled.



-- 

Nothin' ever doesn't change, but nothin' changes much.
-- OK Go

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RE: best practices for management nets in IPv6

[Ryan Finnesey]

Yes sorry Exchange 2010 - OCS, Lync, Exchange UM - these require IPv4

Cheers
Ryan


-Original Message-
From: Frank Bulk [mailto:frnk...@iname.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 12:34 AM
To: Ryan Finnesey
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: RE: best practices for management nets in IPv6

Which version of Exchange are you talking about, and can you share what
about it doesn't support IPv6? 

Frank

-Original Message-
From: Ryan Finnesey [mailto:ryan.finne...@harrierinvestments.com]
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 10:56 PM
To: Doug Barton; Tim Franklin
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: RE: best practices for management nets in IPv6

We keep running into problem with our IPv6 roll out.  I just confirmed
today that Exchange does not fully support IPv6

Cheers
Ryan


-Original Message-
From: Doug Barton [mailto:do...@dougbarton.us]
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 4:59 PM
To: Tim Franklin
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: best practices for management nets in IPv6

On 07/18/2011 06:12, Tim Franklin wrote:
 You can also use IPv6 privacy extensions (by default on Windows 7), 
 see rfc4941. For Linux, you can also enable it, which is not a 
 default.
 
 In the context of addresses I'm using to manage kit, having devices 
 randomly renumber themselves at regular intervals does *not* sound 
 like it's going to make my life easy :(

In IPv4 most people use static assignments for servers, and often use
dynamic assignments for client hosts (e.g., DHCP). The IPv6 world is not
different. If you don't want privacy addresses for your servers (and
it's unlikely that you would) you just make sure that they are not
enabled.



-- 

Nothin' ever doesn't change, but nothin' changes much.
-- OK Go

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RE: best practices for management nets in IPv6

[Ryan Finnesey]

We our designing a new hosted exchange environment as well as Multi-Tenant 
Desktop as a Service environment and we are going to use IPv6 public address.

Cheers
Ryan


-Original Message-
From: James Harr [mailto:james.h...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 11:22 AM
To: Joel Maslak
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: best practices for management nets in IPv6

I couldn't agree more. If you set up private address space, it's going to come 
back and make more work for you later. Set up public IPv6 addresses. If you 
need stateful connection filtering, put in a stateful firewall.

If you really really need address obfuscation, you can still do NAT, but NAT 
from public addresses to public a public address or pool of public addresses. 
If you ever need to turn off NAT, it's a lot easier than renumbering hundreds 
of machines and you always have the option of disabling it per-host instead of 
doing an all-or-nothing transition.

On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 7:32 PM, Joel Maslak jmas...@antelope.net wrote:
 Public IPs.

 At some point you will have to manage something outside your current world or 
 your organization will need to merge/partner/outsource/contract/etc with 
 someone else's network and they might not be keen to route to your ULA space 
 (and might not be more trustworthy than the internet at large anyhow).  Think 
 about things like VPN endpoints, video devices, telephones, etc, that may end 
 up on a public network, maybe behind a device you manage.  You may just 
 manage routers today, but who knows about tomorrow.  Put behind a firewall 
 and use good ingress filtering throughout your network, separating trust 
 zones with distinct subnets.

 If you are worried about forgetting to enable a firewall, put in a network 
 management system to verify connectivity stays blocked combined with a 
 monitored IDS.




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Terremark's NCR in Canada?

[Ryan Finnesey]

Hi All

 

Can anyone recommend a center similar to Terremark's NCR in Canada?

 

Cheers

Ryan

 

SMB Internet market?

[Ryan Finnesey]

Can anyone recommend a good resource of metrics on the SMB Internet
market?  I am trying to find out which ISPs have the most market share
and if they are using DSL, DS1, or Cable for access.

Cheers
Ryan

RE: Clueful Rogers sales rep?

[Ryan Finnesey]

Daniela Moloney
daniela.molo...@rci.rogers.com

Cheers
Ryan


-Original Message-
From: Mike [mailto:ispbuil...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 11:20 AM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Clueful Rogers sales rep?

I need to find a clueful Rogers sales rep, if anyone has suggestions,
please send them my way.

thanks!

RE: Thank you Microsoft (and others)

[Ryan Finnesey]

Hi Chris

Does Azure support IPv6 at this time?

Cheers
Ryan


-Original Message-
From: Christopher Palmer [mailto:christopher.pal...@microsoft.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 2:20 PM
To: Murphy, Jay, DOH; Jared Mauch; Shahid Shafi
Cc: NANOG list
Subject: RE: Thank you Microsoft (and others)

Thank you for the thanks :)

We'll be leaving the www.xbox.com web properties online indefinitely. We're 
holding on other properties but are moving forward at a brisk pace.

Best,
Chris

-Original Message-
From: Murphy, Jay, DOH [mailto:jay.mur...@state.nm.us]
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 9:49 AM
To: Jared Mauch; Shahid Shafi
Cc: NANOG list
Subject: RE: Thank you Microsoft (and others)

I've been saved by the sound of Microsoft.

~Jay
We move the information that moves your world. 
“Engineering is about finding the sweet spot between what's solvable and what 
isn't.
“Good engineering demands that we understand what we’re doing and why, keep an 
open mind, and learn from experience.”


Radia Perlman


 
P Please consider the environment before printing e-mail


-Original Message-
From: Jared Mauch [mailto:ja...@puck.nether.net]
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 7:20 PM
To: Shahid Shafi
Cc: NANOG list
Subject: Thank you Microsoft (and others)

I think it's important to thank Microsoft for leaving sites like xbox IPv6 
enabled.  Hope many other participants leave it on as well.

I think it's a certain sign of the maturity of the protocol and networks at 
this stage of the game.

I have observed some traffic step-down in the network, but it's not entirely 
clear if it's lowered to levels pre-v6-day.

Looking forward to those sharing data at NANOG next week.  (I'm not convinced 
the data I have is worth sharing, but will send it over to the nanogpc soon 
enough..)

- Jared

On Jun 8, 2011, at 9:09 PM, Shahid Shafi wrote:

 I dont think ISOC dashboard is updating any more. Google is no longer 
 advertising  but dashboard still shows green and TTLs were short 
 on those records.

RE: So... is it time to do IPv6 day monthy yet?

[Ryan Finnesey]

I think this would be helpful.

Cheers
Ryan


-Original Message-
From: Ryan Pavely [mailto:para...@nac.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 11:08 AM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: So... is it time to do IPv6 day monthy yet?

I was thinking the same thing.  Good call :)

   Ryan Pavely
Net Access Corporation
http://www.nac.net/


On 6/8/2011 10:40 AM, Jay Ashworth wrote:
 It certainly sounds like it might be.

 Cheers,
 -- jra

RE: Cogent?

[Ryan Finnesey]

Correct 

-Original Message-
From: Erik Bais [mailto:eb...@a2b-internet.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 6:46 AM
To: 'Chris McDonald'; Ryan Finnesey; 'NANOG'
Subject: RE: Cogent?

 As in sales?  Isn't that all they have?

He probably means who understands the business. 

Erik

RE: Cogent?

[Ryan Finnesey]

I have not been able to find a group within Cogent that sells services
to other carriers.  Been trying to get access to a lot of the fiber
Cogent has running into buildings.

Cheers
Ryan


-Original Message-
From: Chris McDonald [mailto:copraph...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 6:27 AM
To: Ryan Finnesey; NANOG
Subject: Re: Cogent?

As in sales?  Isn't that all they have?

On 6/7/11, Ryan Finnesey ryan.finne...@harrierinvestments.com wrote:
 Does cogent have a true carrier/wholesale team?
Cheers
Ryan


Sent from my
 Windows Phone

-- 
Sent from my mobile device

RE: Hotmail?

[Ryan Finnesey]

I would think licensing would be a large fee with any enterprise type product.  
I wonder what the bandwidth requirements would be.

Cheers
Ryan


-Original Message-
From: Suresh Ramasubramanian [mailto:ops.li...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 10:24 PM
To: Santino Codispoti
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Hotmail?

400k is easy enough to do with either high end enterprise or low end carrier 
grade products.

Or if you have the patience to do it, open source ftw.

The MTA isn't the criterion here as much as all the other stuff - bandwidth, 
storage, directory services, security / antispam ...

--srs

On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 7:43 AM, Santino Codispoti santino.codisp...@gmail.com 
wrote:
 Does anyone happen to know what Microsoft using to delivery Hotmail?
 Is it Exchange?  Can anyone recommend a good system for developing web 
 mail services?  I need something that can easy support 400K users




--
Suresh Ramasubramanian (ops.li...@gmail.com)

RE: Hotmail?

[Ryan Finnesey]

 Microsoft had a product that try targeted to the service provider segment I do 
not know if they still offer it.  

Sent from my Windows Phone

-Original Message-
From: Santino Codispoti
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 10:31 PM
To: Syed Waqqas Ahmed
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Hotmail?

We do not have Exchange this would be for a consumer e-mail service
that is ad supported.

On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 10:28 PM, Syed Waqqas Ahmed
waqqasah...@gmail.com wrote:
 If you already have MS Exchange just use OWA (outlook web access)
 feature to enable webaccess. but like suresh said its storage,
 directory services and mail traffic that matters most.

 regards
 syed.

 On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 10:23 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian
 ops.li...@gmail.com wrote:
 400k is easy enough to do with either high end enterprise or low end
 carrier grade products.

 Or if you have the patience to do it, open source ftw.

 The MTA isn't the criterion here as much as all the other stuff -
 bandwidth, storage, directory services, security / antispam ...

 --srs

 On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 7:43 AM, Santino Codispoti
 santino.codisp...@gmail.com wrote:
 Does anyone happen to know what Microsoft using to delivery Hotmail?
 Is it Exchange?  Can anyone recommend a good system for developing web
 mail services?  I need something that can easy support 400K users




 --
 Suresh Ramasubramanian (ops.li...@gmail.com)

RE: Hotmail?

[Ryan Finnesey]

That's what Yahoo uses right?

Sent from my Windows Phone

-Original Message-
From: John LeCoque
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 11:14 PM
To: Santino Codispoti
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Hotmail?

What about starting with Zimbra's Open Source edition, and building onto it?

On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 9:13 PM, Santino Codispoti 
santino.codisp...@gmail.com wrote:

 Does anyone happen to know what Microsoft using to delivery Hotmail?
 Is it Exchange?  Can anyone recommend a good system for developing web
 mail services?  I need something that can easy support 400K users

RE: Hotmail?

[Ryan Finnesey]

Can you customize the interface of OWA that much?

Sent from my Windows Phone

-Original Message-
From: Syed Waqqas Ahmed
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 10:28 PM
To: Suresh Ramasubramanian
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Hotmail?

If you already have MS Exchange just use OWA (outlook web access)
feature to enable webaccess. but like suresh said its storage,
directory services and mail traffic that matters most.

regards
syed.

On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 10:23 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian
ops.li...@gmail.com wrote:
 400k is easy enough to do with either high end enterprise or low end
 carrier grade products.

 Or if you have the patience to do it, open source ftw.

 The MTA isn't the criterion here as much as all the other stuff -
 bandwidth, storage, directory services, security / antispam ...

 --srs

 On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 7:43 AM, Santino Codispoti
 santino.codisp...@gmail.com wrote:
 Does anyone happen to know what Microsoft using to delivery Hotmail?
 Is it Exchange?  Can anyone recommend a good system for developing web
 mail services?  I need something that can easy support 400K users




 --
 Suresh Ramasubramanian (ops.li...@gmail.com)

Cogent?

[Ryan Finnesey]

Does cogent have a true carrier/wholesale team?
Cheers
Ryan


Sent from my Windows Phone

RE: Voice Peering?

[Ryan Finnesey]

Do you need to be a mobile operator to join an IPX/GRX?  I know EQUINIX
operates I think two IPXs but I do not know witch mobile operator are
passing traffic.  We are working on a project witch 100% of the outbound
voice traffic is going to go to mobiles.  There will also be a large
volume of SMS/MMS traffic.  It would be very useful to peer with the
mobile operators.

Cheers
Ryan


-Original Message-
From: Cameron Byrne [mailto:cb.li...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2011 10:24 AM
To: Remco Bressers
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Voice Peering?

On Apr 21, 2011 1:59 AM, Remco Bressers re...@signet.nl wrote:

 I also thought GRX peering was only data and sms.
 There's a SIP peering point on the NL-IX though.

Grx is data only. IPX in theory does voice too but I don't think the
take rate is very high.

Cb

 Look at http://www.nl-ix.net/solutions/voice-peering/ for more.

 Regards,

 Remco Bressers
 Signet B.V.
 AS28878


 On 04/21/2011 10:52 AM, Santino Codispoti wrote:
  Thank you I will look into AMS-IX.  I was thinking the GRX platforms

  where for SMS and Data only.
 
  On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 4:45 AM, Erik Bais eb...@a2b-internet.com
wrote:
  Hi Santino,
 
   Did you had a look at AMS-IX ? They have a grx offering for that.
 
  Regards,
  Erik Bais
  A2B Internet
 
  Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad
 
  Op Apr 21, 2011 om 9:35 heeft Santino Codispoti 
santino.codisp...@gmail.com het volgende geschreven:
 
  I know a few years ago some Vo/IP peering points where started.
Are
  they still around today?   I am looking for a solution to hand-off
  outbound voice calls to mobile operators
 
 
 

RE: ATT MPLS / BIB Routers

[Ryan Finnesey]

What type of hardware are they using for this BIB router?

Cheers
Ryan


-Original Message-
From: Mikeal Clark [mailto:mikeal.cl...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 6:16 PM
To: Jim Gettys
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: ATT MPLS / BIB Routers

I'm building up to 3000-4000ms latency with these BIB routers.  We never
had this issue on the old point to points using Cisco gear.

On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Jim Gettys j...@freedesktop.org wrote:

 On 02/16/2011 05:44 PM, Mikeal Clark wrote:

 We just put in a ATT MPLS and are having a pretty negative 
 experience with the Business in a Box routers they are using for 
 our smaller sites.  We are seeing extremely high latency under load.

 Anyone have any experience with these devices that could shed some 
 light on this?  Are they really this bad?


 There is excessive buffering in all sorts of devices all over the
Internet.
 This causes high latency under load (along with higher packet losses, 
 and lots of other problems.

 It's what I've been blogging about on http://gettys.wordpress.com. 
 These buffers fill; and they are so large they have defeated TCP 
 congestion avoidance to boot, with horrifying consequences.

 So far, I've found this problem (almost) everywhere I've looked:
o ICSI has good data that bufferbloat is endemic in DSL, Cable,

 and FIOS.  Delays are often measured in seconds (rather than
milliseconds).
o some corporate and ISP networks run without AQM, in 
 circumstances that they should.
o Windows, Mac OSX and Linux all have bufferbloat in their 
 network stacks, at a minimum on recent network device drivers, and
often elsewhere.
o Every home router I've tested is horrifyingly bad.
o 3g networks  802.11 have this in spades.

 Why should ATT's MPLS be any different?

 My next topic will be transient bufferbloat, having to do with 
 defeating slowstart.

 Come start helping fix this: please join us at bufferbloat.net, as we 
 try to get people to fix it.  Already there are some experimental 
 patches for the Linux Intel wireless driver.
Jim Gettys
Bell Labs

RE: SmartNet Alternatives

[Ryan Finnesey]

This is one of the reasons we are starting to look at Juniper for a new network 
build.  It is my understanding we set software updates for life for free.
Cheers
Ryan


-Original Message-
From: Michael Loftis [mailto:mlof...@wgops.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 4:27 PM
To: John Macleod
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: SmartNet Alternatives

Cisco is making noises that they'll eventually be restricting software access 
to ONLY those devices which have an active SmartNet contract associated to your 
CCO account.  I don't know where this currently stands, and it sure will be a 
huge pain in my rear if/when it happens.

On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 1:41 PM, John Macleod jmacl...@alentus.com wrote:
 Just interested in other peoples experience to companies offering 
 alternatives to SmartNet?

 Pros/Cons/Tradeoffs?

 We currently have a mix of SmartNet and internal parts supply.

 John


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Sales - Global Crossing or Colt?

[Ryan Finnesey]

Would anyone have a carrier sales contact at Global Crossing or Colt?
It is very important I get someone that is within the carrier/wholesale
group sales

RE: Weekend Gedankenexperiment - The Kill Switch

[Ryan Finnesey]

Does anyone know when they took down connectivity in Egypt did they also
bring down the MPLS networks global companies use?

Cheers
Ryan


-Original Message-
From: Fred Baker [mailto:f...@cisco.com] 
Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 9:43 AM
To: Hayden Katzenellenbogen
Cc: NANOG list
Subject: Re: Weekend Gedankenexperiment - The Kill Switch


On Feb 4, 2011, at 9:49 PM, Hayden Katzenellenbogen wrote:

 Not sure if it has been said already but wasn't one of the key point 
 for the creation of the internet to create and infrastructure that 
 would survive in the case of all out war and massive destruction. 
 (strategic nuclear strikes)

Urban legend, although widely believed. Someone probably made the
observation.

 Does it not bode ill for national security if any party could take 
 out a massive communication system by destroying/pressuring a few 
 choke points?

You mean, like drop a couple of trade towers and take out three class
five switches, causing communication outages throughout New England and
New Jersey, and affecting places as far away as Chicago?

Nope. Couldn't happen.

More seriously, yes, one could in fact take out any connectivity one
wants by withdrawing routes (which is reportedly what Egypt did), and if
you hit enough interchange points that could get serious.

At the risk of sounding naive and pollyanna-ish, we have a few more of
those interchange points in the US than they have in Egypt. In theory,
yes. Making it actually happen could be quite an operation.

 -Original Message-
 From: JC Dill [mailto:jcdill.li...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 11:39 PM
 To: NANOG list
 Subject: Re: Weekend Gedankenexperiment - The Kill Switch
 
  On 03/02/11 10:38 PM, Paul Ferguson wrote:
 
 And as an aside, governments will always believe that that they can
 control
 the flow of information, when push comes to shove.
 
 This has always been a hazard, and will always continue to be so.
 
 As technologists, we need to be cognizant of that fact.
 
 In the US, by accident (surely not by design) we are lucky that our 
 network of networks does not have the convenient 4 chokepoints that 
 the Egyptian network had, making it easy for the government to shut 
 off the entier internet by putting pressure on just 4 companies.
 
 Where we *really* need to be fighting this battle is in the laws and 
 policies that are producing a duopoly in much of the US where 
 consumers have 2 choices, the ILEC for DSL or their local cableco for 
 Cable Internet.  As theses companies push smaller competing ISPs out 
 of business, and as they consolidate (e.g. Cablecos buying each other 
 up, resulting in fewer and fewer cablecos over time), we head down the

 direction of Egypt, where pressure on just a few companies CAN shut 
 down
 
 the entire internet.  Otherwise we end up with a few companies that 
 will
 
 play Visa and PayPal and roll over and play dead when a government 
 official says Wikileaks is bad - and equally easily will shut down 
 their entire networks for national security.
 
 If you *really* believe that the TSA is effective, you would be in 
 favor
 
 of an Internet Kill Switch.  If you understand that this is really 
 security theater, and despite all the inconvenience we aren't really 
 any
 
 safer, then you should equally be very concerned that someone ever has

 the power to order that the internet be shut down for our safety.
 
 jc
 
 
 

Verizon acquiring Terremark

[Ryan Finnesey]

With Verizon acquiring Terremark does the group fell the NAPs will
change from being carrier-neutral environments to pro Verizon? Has
Verizon acquired carrier-neutral centers in the past?  

Cheers
Ryan

RE: DSL options in NYC for OOB access

[Ryan Finnesey]

Yes depending on the building location in most places we have two
options for access cable plant (TWC, Comcast ect) or LEC.  All via Layer
2.

Cheers
Ryan


-Original Message-
From: Joel Jaeggli [mailto:joe...@bogus.com] 
Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2011 2:32 AM
To: Ryan Finnesey
Cc: Andy Ashley; nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: DSL options in NYC for OOB access

On 1/29/11 9:30 PM, Ryan Finnesey wrote:
 All this out of band management talk is making me think it is an 
 opportunity for a supper low cost DSL offering.  Maybe a good way to 
 get read of some capacity we have.

The key of course is that it not be coupled to the physical plant that
the other circuits use. I've been in a couple of facilties recently
(though not in ny) where riding into the building on twsited pair was at
best costly and more generally, infeasible.


joel

 Cheers
 Ryan
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Andy Ashley [mailto:li...@nexus6.co.za]
 Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 3:42 PM
 To: nanog@nanog.org
 Subject: Re: DSL options in NYC for OOB access
 
 On 29/01/2011 14:56, Randy McAnally wrote:
 
 Have you looked into the cross connect cost for your DSL line?  They 
 typically aren't very cheap either.

 ~Randy
 Im still waiting for the quote to come back from L3.
 Figured a copper pair would be cheaper than a fiber, but who knows?
 
 Andy.
 
 
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RE: DSL options in NYC for OOB access

[Ryan Finnesey]

All this out of band management talk is making me think it is an
opportunity for a supper low cost DSL offering.  Maybe a good way to get
read of some capacity we have.
Cheers
Ryan


-Original Message-
From: Andy Ashley [mailto:li...@nexus6.co.za] 
Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 3:42 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: DSL options in NYC for OOB access

On 29/01/2011 14:56, Randy McAnally wrote:

 Have you looked into the cross connect cost for your DSL line?  They 
 typically aren't very cheap either.

 ~Randy
Im still waiting for the quote to come back from L3.
Figured a copper pair would be cheaper than a fiber, but who knows?

Andy.


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RE: DSL options in NYC for OOB access

[Ryan Finnesey]

Speakeasy/Covad/Megapath is now all one company.


-Original Message-
From: Michael Costello [mailto:mc3...@columbia.edu] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 9:01 AM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: DSL options in NYC for OOB access

On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 22:04:25 +
Andy Ashley li...@nexus6.co.za wrote:

 Hi,
 
 Im looking for a little advice about DSL circuits in New York, 
 specifically at 111 8th Ave.
 Going to locate a console server there for out-of-band serial 
 management. The router will need connectivity for remote telnet/ssh 
 access from the NOC.
 
 Looking for a low speed (and low cost) DSL line with a fixed IP.
 I searched some obvious providers but dont really want to deal with a 
 huge company (Verizon, Qwest, ?) if it can be avoided.
 Also $80-100+ seems a lot for something that will be used very rarely,

 but maybe those prices are normal.
 
 Are there smaller/independent companies out there offering this sort 
 of thing?
 I dont know much about the US DSL market, so any hints are welcome.

Speakeasy/Covad/Megapath and Panix offer DSL.  Speakeasy is mostly
pleasant to deal with, but I've never used Panix.

mc

RE: DSL options in NYC for OOB access

[Ryan Finnesey]

Hi Andy

We use Wireless (att) on a custom APN for this, has worked great.

Cheers
Ryan


-Original Message-
From: Andy Ashley [mailto:li...@nexus6.co.za] 
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 5:04 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: DSL options in NYC for OOB access

Hi,

Im looking for a little advice about DSL circuits in New York,
specifically at 111 8th Ave.
Going to locate a console server there for out-of-band serial
management.
The router will need connectivity for remote telnet/ssh access from the
NOC.

Looking for a low speed (and low cost) DSL line with a fixed IP.
I searched some obvious providers but dont really want to deal with a
huge company (Verizon, Qwest, ?) if it can be avoided.
Also $80-100+ seems a lot for something that will be used very rarely,
but maybe those prices are normal.

Are there smaller/independent companies out there offering this sort of
thing?
I dont know much about the US DSL market, so any hints are welcome.

Thanks.
Andy.

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RE: FAA - ASDI servers

[Ryan Finnesey]

I wanted to thank everyone for both their online and offline replies.
At this time the FAA does not support IPv6 to connect to the ASDI
servers.

Cheers
Ryan


-Original Message-
From: Merike Kaeo [mailto:mer...@doubleshotsecurity.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 12:14 AM
To: Ryan Finnesey
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: FAA - ASDI servers 

I've pinged someone offline who may have a contact.   Will let you know
offline if I do and connect you.   I had some peripheral insight a few
years ago when I did some work with Boeing.  Even had a hand at editing
some ARINC standards.  The airline industry was umminteresting :)
Suffice to say the guy I was working with at Boeing was pushing hard for
v6 capability within ARINC and this was 2007.  Keep fingers crossed.

- merike

On Jan 4, 2011, at 8:57 PM, Ryan Finnesey wrote:

 Can they simply extend the mandate?   We need to setup new
connectivity
 to the FFA and was hoping to go IPv6 right out of the gate.
 Cheers
 Ryan
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Kevin Oberman [mailto:ober...@es.net]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 11:12 PM
 To: Christopher Morrow
 Cc: Ryan Finnesey; nanog@nanog.org
 Subject: Re: FAA - ASDI servers
 
 Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 22:49:34 -0500
 From: Christopher Morrow morrowc.li...@gmail.com
 
 On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 10:39 PM, Ryan Finnesey 
 ryan.finne...@harrierinvestments.com wrote:
 Very true but why the reference to vacuum tubes?
 
 sadly it was an FAA computer system joke.
 
 But, since the F stands for Federal, if it is still up in two years,

 it must be reachable by IPv6. Today, the odds are pretty slim as 
 almost no federal systems are reachable by IPv6. It will be an 
 interesting two years for a lot of federal IT folks as the mandate is 
 from the OMB who can pull a budget for non-compliance.
 --
 R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer
 Energy Sciences Network (ESnet)
 Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab)
 E-mail: ober...@es.netPhone: +1 510 486-8634
 Key fingerprint:059B 2DDF 031C 9BA3 14A4  EADA 927D EBB3 987B 3751
 

RE: Clearwire/Clear for branch office connectivity?

[Ryan Finnesey]

We use it for some of our juice bar operations but we buy the service from 
Sprint.  We have been very happy with the service.

Cheers
Ryan


-Original Message-
From: Brandon Galbraith [mailto:brandon.galbra...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 5:16 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Clearwire/Clear for branch office connectivity?

Is anyone using Clearwire/Clear's wireless broadband offering for stationary 
branch offices/remote equipment monitoring? Looking for results/experiences 
off-list. We're looking at it for industrial telemetry, and have spoken to 
people using ATT and VZW who are doing the same, but we wanted to look at Clear 
as well. Curious as to reliability, link performance, and support quality.

Thanks!
Brandon

--
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US Voice: 630.492.0464

RE: FAA - ASDI servers

[Ryan Finnesey]

Is anyone on the list from the FAA?  I am trying to find out if we can
connect to the ASDI servers via IPv6.  

Cheers
Ryan

RE: FAA - ASDI servers

[Ryan Finnesey]

Very true but why the reference to vacuum tubes?

-Original Message-
From: christopher.mor...@gmail.com [mailto:christopher.mor...@gmail.com] On 
Behalf Of Christopher Morrow
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 10:32 PM
To: Ryan Finnesey
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: FAA - ASDI servers

On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 10:25 PM, Ryan Finnesey 
ryan.finne...@harrierinvestments.com wrote:
 Is anyone on the list from the FAA?  I am trying to find out if we can 
 connect to the ASDI servers via IPv6.

vacuum tubes don't do ipv6.

RE: FAA - ASDI servers

[Ryan Finnesey]

Yes I did read the VPN document before posting to the group but it does not 
give any IP address information and the e-mail address within the document is 
bouncing.  

-Original Message-
From: christopher.mor...@gmail.com [mailto:christopher.mor...@gmail.com] On 
Behalf Of Christopher Morrow
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 11:07 PM
To: Menerick, John
Cc: Ryan Finnesey; nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: FAA - ASDI servers

On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 10:50 PM, Menerick, John jmener...@netsuite.com wrote:
 Every joke has a bit of truth.  For instance, until recently (last 10 
 years?), O'hare's traffic controllers relied upon vacuum tube technology to 
 perform their job.

yea, I was really referring to the ATC part of the FAA I suppose...
I'm not sure it's still true, but every time I hear it come up in conversation 
(I bet owen delong would actually know...or rs) there is a bit of:
 Well, we could migrate to something NOT VT based, but that'd take 3+ years 
and ... we have other priorities and ... 

wash/rinse/repeat... On a serious note though:

http://www.fly.faa.gov/ASDI/asdi.html
(note this is the first hit in google searches for 'adsi server faa') seems to 
have all manner of information on it about the systems in question. They seem 
to mention VPN services, I suspect there isn't v6 access, I would have read the 
requirements doc, but they wanted to send it to me as a .doc file... uhm, this 
is the 21st century could we distribute this in some sort of cross-platform 
manner? like txt ? or pdf? (though I hesitate to suggest pdf, what with the 
adobe pwnage consistently ongoing these days)

-chris
(not a pilot, not even on tv)

Hotel Internet?

[Ryan Finnesey]

Is anyone within the group providing Internet access to Hotels?  It
seems most of this market is controlled by Lodge Net.

Cheers

Ryan

 

RE: peering, derivatives, and big brother

[Ryan Finnesey]

I remember 5  years ago a company called Invisible Hand Networks that
tried something like that.

Cheers
Ryan


-Original Message-
From: Laurent GUERBY [mailto:laur...@guerby.net] 
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2010 3:07 PM
To: George Bonser
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: peering, derivatives, and big brother

On Sun, 2010-12-12 at 19:36 -0800, George Bonser wrote:
 (...) The financial derivatives market isn't, in my opinion, a good 
 analogy of the peering market.  A data packet is perishable and must

 be moved quickly.  The destination network wants the packet in order 
 to keep their customer happy and the originating network wants to get 
 it to that customer as quickly and cheaply as possible.  The 
 proliferation of these peering points means that today there is more 
 traffic going directly from content network to eyeball network.  To 
 use a different analogy, it is almost like the market is going to a 
 series of farmer's markets rather than supermarkets in the 
 distribution channel.  Sure, there are still the supermarkets out 
 there, but increasingly they are selling their store brand by 
 becoming content hosting networks themselves.  (...)

Hi,

The electricity spot market is close to your definition of perishable:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electricity_market

It has a derivative market, google for electricity derivatives will
give you some papers and models.

I'm pretty sure electricity and bandwidth share some patterns.

Now who wants to be the Enron of the bandwidth market? :)

Sincerely,

Laurent
http://guerby.org/blog

RE: The scale of streaming video on the Internet.

[Ryan Finnesey]

I have TWC in NYC.  I see now I can restart most of the shows I watch.  How is 
this done?

Cheers
Ryan


-Original Message-
From: Alex Rubenstein [mailto:a...@corp.nac.net] 
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 3:57 PM
To: Jay Ashworth; NANOG
Subject: RE: The scale of streaming video on the Internet.

 *Way* more power than the equivalent transmitters and TV sets.  Even 
 if you add in the cable headends, I suspect.

Yeah, but...

This is really not comparable.

Transmitters and TV sets require that everyone watch what is being transmitted. 
People (myself included) don't like, or don't want this method anymore. I want 
to watch what I want, when I want to.

This is the new age of media. Out with the old.

regional ASN's

[Ryan Finnesey]

I see various people are recommending networks setup regional ASN's.  I
am in the process of setting up a new network which will serve as a
transit network for all our operating units.  I was planning on using
one ASN for North America, Asia and Europe.  Is this not recommended?

Cheers
Ryan

RE: Level 3 Communications Issues Statement Concerning Comcast'sActions

[Ryan Finnesey]

It may have something to do with that Level3 is now hosting all the
streaming content for Netflixs.
Cheers
Ryan


-Original Message-
From: Thomas Donnelly [mailto:tad1...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 5:52 PM
To: Rettke, Brian; Patrick W. Gilmore; NANOG list; Guerra, Ruben
Subject: Re: Level 3 Communications Issues Statement Concerning
Comcast'sActions

On November 19, 2010, Comcast informed Level 3 that, for the first
time, it will demand a recurring fee from Level 3 to transmit Internet
online movies and other content to Comcast's customers who request such
content.

If the issue is bandwidth, then why not charge for bandwidth? Picking a
specific service says we are trying to squash the competition.


On Mon, 29 Nov 2010 16:48:06 -0600, Guerra, Ruben
ruben.gue...@arrisi.com wrote:

 I'd have to agree with Brian. There is no simple answer to this one...

 If the ultimate cause is the abuse of bandwidth, I can understand 
 this... BUT if the underlying motive is to squash competition then 
 shame on you!



 -Original Message-
 From: Rettke, Brian [mailto:brian.ret...@cableone.biz]
 Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 4:41 PM
 To: Patrick W. Gilmore; NANOG list
 Subject: RE: Level 3 Communications Issues Statement Concerning  
 Comcast's Actions

 Essentially, the question is who has to pay for the infrastructure to

 support the bandwidth requirements of all of these new and booming  
 streaming ventures. I can understand both the side taken by Comcast,
and  
 the side of the content provider, but I don't think it's as simple as

 the slogans spewed out regarding Net Neutrality, which has become so

 misused and abused as a term that I don't think it has any credulous  
 value remaining.

 I'm hoping that there is an eventual meeting of the minds wherein some

 sort of collaboration takes place. If this gets additional government

 regulations I fear no one will like the result.

 Sincerely,

 Brian A . Rettke
 RHCT, CCDP, CCNP, CCIP
 Network Engineer, CableONE Internet Services

 -Original Message-
 From: Patrick W. Gilmore [mailto:patr...@ianai.net]
 Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 3:28 PM
 To: NANOG list
 Subject: Level 3 Communications Issues Statement Concerning Comcast's

 Actions


http://www.marketwatch.com/story/level-3-communications-issues-statemen
t-concerning-comcasts-actions-2010-11-29?reflink=MW_news_stmp

 I understand that politics is off-topic, but this policy affects  
 operational aspects of the 'Net.

 Just to be clear, L3 is saying content providers should not have to
pay  
 to deliver content to broadband providers who have their own product  
 which has content as well.  I am certain all the content providers on

 this list are happy to hear L3's change of heart and will be applying

 for settlement free peering tomorrow.  (L3 wouldn't want other
providers  
 to claim the Vyvx or CDN or other content services provided by L3 are

 competing and L3 is putting up a toll booth on the Internet, would  
 they?)

 --
 TTFN,
 patrick






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