On Mon, 6 Jun 2011, Owen DeLong wrote:
While your statement above sounds wonderfully utopian, the reality is
that unless the citizens can take up arms against the government, the
government can, over time, become criminal. A disarmed populace has no
ability to protect itself from such a govern
On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 10:21:35AM -0700, Owen DeLong wrote:
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> On Jun 6, 2011, at 7:31 AM, Daniel Seagraves wrote:
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> > On Jun 6, 2011, at 8:41 AM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:
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> >> Nice try, but the human right you just made a case for is "the right to rid
> >> yourself of crimina
On Jun 6, 2011, at 7:31 AM, Daniel Seagraves wrote:
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> On Jun 6, 2011, at 8:41 AM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:
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>> Nice try, but the human right you just made a case for is "the right to rid
>> yourself of criminals and despots". A "fundamental right" for citizens to
>> have
>> firearms
propriate forum.
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> thanks
> Mike
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> -Original Message-
> From: Nick Olsen [mailto:n...@flhsi.com]
> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 10:15 AM
> To: Andrew Kirch; nanog@nanog.org
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> access a"
opriate forum.
>
> thanks
> Mike
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Nick Olsen [mailto:n...@flhsi.com]
> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 10:15 AM
> To: Andrew Kirch; nanog@nanog.org
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Hi :
Fair enough, missed that,
Thanks
Mike
From: Nick Olsen [mailto:n...@flhsi.com]
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 10:22 AM
To: Mike Rae; nanog@nanog.org
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access a"human right"
Hence the (OT) tag.
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Hence the (OT) tag.
-Nick Olsen
From: "Mike Rae"
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 12:20 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: RE: [SPAM-Low] Re: (OT) Firearms Was: UN declares Internet access
a"human right"
Hi All :
How is this an operationa
guns :D
-Nick Olsen
From: "Andrew Kirch"
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 11:42 AM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: [SPAM-Low] Re: (OT) Firearms Was: UN declares Internet access a
"human right"
nothing like 40 short and wimpy! Might I interest
From: "Andrew Kirch"
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 11:42 AM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: [SPAM-Low] Re: (OT) Firearms Was: UN declares Internet access a
"human right"
nothing like 40 short and wimpy! Might I interest you in a 45? :)
On 6/6/2011 11:37 AM, Nick Olsen wrote:
> D
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Joshua-Lee-Campbell-Server-Shoot-Gun-alcohol,11171.html
Just don't end up like this guy. He's a personal hero of mine. We've
all wanted to do this before but he had the liquid courage to do it
and yet another reason to own a 45 ;-)
, June 06, 2011 11:38 AM
To: Daniel Seagraves; nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: (OT) Firearms Was: UN declares Internet access a "human right"
Don't leave the house without my Glock 23 on my side. Truck always has a
loaded 12ga in it. In the house, I've got a handful of pistols and m
ens. Not like most criminals get guns via legal channels
> in the first place.
>
> -Nick Olsen
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>
> From: "Daniel Seagraves"
> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 10:34 AM
> To: nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: Re: (OT) Firearms Was:
ot;Daniel Seagraves"
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 10:34 AM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: (OT) Firearms Was: UN declares Internet access a "human
right"
On Jun 6, 2011, at 8:41 AM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:
> Nice try, but the human right you just made a case for is &
> Once law enforcement is effective enough to prevent the average
> criminal from having access to firearms, then the law-abiding population can
> be compelled to disarm.
That day is coming through US force as "Operation Gun Runner" from the
ATF allowed Mexican drug cartel straw purchasers to come
On Jun 6, 2011, at 8:41 AM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:
> Nice try, but the human right you just made a case for is "the right to rid
> yourself of criminals and despots". A "fundamental right" for citizens to
> have
> firearms does *not* automatically follow. Yes, despots usually need to b
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