Re: Conference Videos

[Christian de Larrinaga]

Has there been some assessment of how justified have those seeking the
"right to be forgotten" been in becoming forgotten? By doing so does it
risk changing the record in a way that is not beneficial to the
community and historical record?

I warmly second the plaudit and thanks to Brandon for his support of
UKNOF.  He has played a very substantial part in making UKNOF what it is
today.

Christian
> Chris Russell 
> 14 March 2017 at 08:23
>
>
>  We've had this within UKNOF ... sometimes people do not wish to be
> recorded, mainly due to confidentiality reasons (ie: advance heads up,
> or personal thoughts delivered to a specific audience).   Occasionally
> we have been asked to remove recordings at a later date due to
> changing circumstances etc.
>
>  We explicitly mention the webcast/records on abstract submissions
> from memory, and also recently introduced shepherding to help
> presentations be more relevant (both to the speakers to help them in
> pushing a $clue or message, to our audience to ensure relevance and to
> us in terms of protection from litigation, etc). This applies to both
> submitted AND sponsor talks (the latter being incredibly useful and
> has shown a major increase in sponsor talk relevance and feedback
> ratings).
>
>  People will always mention a lack of recording/webcast for this type
> of content ... but then arguably that is a driver to attend in person.
>
> Thanks
>
> Chris
> (UKNOF PC Chair)
>
>
>
> Patrick W. Gilmore 
> 13 March 2017 at 22:10
>
> 
>
> Speakers are informed they are going to be recorded. If they have
> sensitive information, they can choose a track and ask it not be
> recorded. NANOG has done this in the past, but you should talk to the
> Program Committee if you are interested in this.
>
> Steve Feldman 
> 13 March 2017 at 22:06
>
> Many attendees also find value in the parts of the conference that
> aren't recorded, like hallway conversations, informal meetings, and
> even social events.
>
> Keeping and maintaining the archive of slides and video recordings is
> an essential part of NANOG's educational mission, which was key to
> obtaining and maintaining the IRS 401(c)(3) nonprofit status.
>
> So at least for the time I was on the Board, not only were there no
> regrets, but we worked hard to maintain and enhance the video experience.
> Steve
>
>
> Mike Hammett 
> 13 March 2017 at 21:52
> Another organization I'm in has a hard policy of no recordings of any
> sessions at their conferences. They think that recordings of content
> (even vendor-sponsored, vendor-specific sessions with vendor consent)
> would have a catastrophic effect on conference attendance.
>
> NANOG doesn't seem to have that issue. Any background on the process
> to get there? Any regrets?
>
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>
> Midwest Internet Exchange
>
> The Brothers WISP
>

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Re: Conference Videos

[Chris Russell]

Speakers are informed they are going to be recorded. If they have
sensitive information, they can choose a track and ask it not be
recorded. NANOG has done this in the past, but you should talk to the
Program Committee if you are interested in this.


 We've had this within UKNOF ... sometimes people do not wish to be 
recorded, mainly due to confidentiality reasons (ie: advance heads up, 
or personal thoughts delivered to a specific audience).   Occasionally 
we have been asked to remove recordings at a later date due to changing 
circumstances etc.


 We explicitly mention the webcast/records on abstract submissions from 
memory, and also recently introduced shepherding to help presentations 
be more relevant (both to the speakers to help them in pushing a $clue 
or message, to our audience to ensure relevance and to us in terms of 
protection from litigation, etc). This applies to both submitted AND 
sponsor talks (the latter being incredibly useful and has shown a major 
increase in sponsor talk relevance and feedback ratings).


 People will always mention a lack of recording/webcast for this type 
of content ... but then arguably that is a driver to attend in person.


Thanks

Chris
(UKNOF PC Chair)

Re: Conference Videos

[Chris Russell]

We record and put on youtube the uknof.org.uk meetings and it still
gets bigger every time (around 3x growth since we started streaming).


 - and we at UKNOF are grateful for Brandon for doing this... :)

 In terms of UKNOF, we get complaints when we DON'T webcast content or 
make video's available on YouTube, overall, people coming to meetings is 
somewhere between coming to see the content and also to network.


 The YouTube presence helps us to spread the word of the meeting and be 
as inclusive as possible, on the other hand, we are entirely sponsor 
funded and try to avoid a charge for attendance.


Chris

Re: Conference Videos

[Brandon Butterworth]

On Mon Mar 13, 2017 at 04:52:01PM -0500, Mike Hammett wrote:
> Another organization I'm in has a hard policy of no recordings of
> any sessions at their conferences. They think that recordings of
> content (even vendor-sponsored, vendor-specific sessions with
> vendor consent) would have a catastrophic effect on conference
> attendance. 

We record and put on youtube the uknof.org.uk meetings and it still
gets bigger every time (around 3x growth since we started streaming).

Hard to think anyone still doesn't understand internet. Video or
it never happened.

brandon

Re: Conference Videos

[Bob Evans]

I have referred to online sessions from the past several times.
NANOG is great at preserving information, compared to other conferences.

In addition, if you attend a conference, say you have to missed a session
due to business distractions, you can usually watch it that evening in
your room. If you stayed out too late and you'd rather have a late
breakfast and order room service, you can watch/attend sessions virtually
from your room.

Thank You
Bob Evans
CTO




>
>> On Mar 13, 2017, at 2:52 PM, Mike Hammett  wrote:
>>
>> Another organization I'm in has a hard policy of no recordings of any
>> sessions at their conferences. They think that recordings of content
>> (even vendor-sponsored, vendor-specific sessions with vendor consent)
>> would have a catastrophic effect on conference attendance.
>>
>> NANOG doesn't seem to have that issue. Any background on the process to
>> get there? Any regrets?
>>
>
> Many attendees also find value in the parts of the conference that aren't
> recorded, like hallway conversations, informal meetings, and even social
> events.
>
> Keeping and maintaining the archive of slides and video recordings is an
> essential part of NANOG's educational mission, which was key to obtaining
> and maintaining the IRS 401(c)(3) nonprofit status.
>
> So at least for the time I was on the Board, not only were there no
> regrets, but we worked hard to maintain and enhance the video experience.
>  Steve
>
>
>

Re: Conference Videos

[Patrick W. Gilmore]

On Mar 13, 2017, at 6:06 PM, Steve Feldman  wrote:
> On Mar 13, 2017, at 2:52 PM, Mike Hammett  wrote:
>> 
>> Another organization I'm in has a hard policy of no recordings of any 
>> sessions at their conferences. They think that recordings of content (even 
>> vendor-sponsored, vendor-specific sessions with vendor consent) would have a 
>> catastrophic effect on conference attendance. 
>> 
>> NANOG doesn't seem to have that issue. Any background on the process to get 
>> there? Any regrets? 
>> 
> 
> Many attendees also find value in the parts of the conference that aren't 
> recorded, like hallway conversations, informal meetings, and even social 
> events.
> 
> Keeping and maintaining the archive of slides and video recordings is an 
> essential part of NANOG's educational mission, which was key to obtaining and 
> maintaining the IRS 401(c)(3) nonprofit status.
> 
> So at least for the time I was on the Board, not only were there no regrets, 
> but we worked hard to maintain and enhance the video experience.



Speakers are informed they are going to be recorded. If they have sensitive 
information, they can choose a track and ask it not be recorded. NANOG has done 
this in the past, but you should talk to the Program Committee if you are 
interested in this.

-- 
TTFN,
patrick

Re: Conference Videos

[James Downs]

On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 04:52:01PM -0500, Mike Hammett wrote:
> Another organization I'm in has a hard policy of no recordings of any 
> sessions at their conferences. They think that recordings of content (even 
> vendor-sponsored, vendor-specific sessions with vendor consent) would have a 
> catastrophic effect on conference attendance. 

Check out the Openstack Summits, a conference that records *everything*, and 
attendence keeps going up.

Cheers,
-j

Re: Conference Videos

[Steve Feldman]

> On Mar 13, 2017, at 2:52 PM, Mike Hammett  wrote:
> 
> Another organization I'm in has a hard policy of no recordings of any 
> sessions at their conferences. They think that recordings of content (even 
> vendor-sponsored, vendor-specific sessions with vendor consent) would have a 
> catastrophic effect on conference attendance. 
> 
> NANOG doesn't seem to have that issue. Any background on the process to get 
> there? Any regrets? 
> 

Many attendees also find value in the parts of the conference that aren't 
recorded, like hallway conversations, informal meetings, and even social events.

Keeping and maintaining the archive of slides and video recordings is an 
essential part of NANOG's educational mission, which was key to obtaining and 
maintaining the IRS 401(c)(3) nonprofit status.

So at least for the time I was on the Board, not only were there no regrets, 
but we worked hard to maintain and enhance the video experience.
 Steve

Conference Videos

[Mike Hammett]

Another organization I'm in has a hard policy of no recordings of any sessions 
at their conferences. They think that recordings of content (even 
vendor-sponsored, vendor-specific sessions with vendor consent) would have a 
catastrophic effect on conference attendance. 

NANOG doesn't seem to have that issue. Any background on the process to get 
there? Any regrets? 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP