On Jun 18, 2014, at 4:37 PM, Daniel Ankers md1...@md1clv.com wrote:
On 18 June 2014 19:05, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote:
OTOH, it's far better than those ridiculous providers that are screwing over
their customers with /56s or even worse, /60s.
Sad, really.
Owen
Is giving a
On 18 June 2014 19:05, Daniel Ankers md1...@md1clv.comreplied:
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From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Daniel Ankers
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 6:37 PM
To: Owen DeLong; nanog@nanog.org list
Subject: Re: Credit to Digital Ocean for ipv6 offering
On Thu, 19 Jun 2014 07:18:36 -0500, STARNES, CURTIS said:
At 18,446,744,073,709,551,616 per /64, that is a lot of address.
Right now I cannot get IPv6 at home so I will take getting screwed with a
/56 or /60 and be estatic about it.
My WNDR3800 running cerowrt is quite able to use up the /60
On 19 June 2014 13:18, STARNES, CURTIS curtis.star...@granburyisd.org
wrote:
I have to agree with Dan on this one,
Look at the numbers (especially for small to mid-sized business and
residential):
/56 = 256 /64's subnets
/60 = 16 /64's subnets
On Jun 19, 2014, at 12:18 PM, STARNES, CURTIS
curtis.star...@granburyisd.org wrote:
At 18,446,744,073,709,551,616 per /64, that is a lot of address.
Right now I cannot get IPv6 at home so I will take getting screwed with a
/56 or /60 and be estatic about it.
Curtis
Would be nice
On 19 June 2014 18:19, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:
My WNDR3800 running cerowrt is quite able to use up the /60 Comcast hands me
(it burns 6 /64s by default the instant you turn it on, and can burn more
if
you start doing VLAN'ing or other config stuff).
How does it use those 6 /64s?
On 06/19/2014 02:07 PM, Daniel Ankers wrote:
On 19 June 2014 18:19, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:
My WNDR3800 running cerowrt is quite able to use up the /60 Comcast hands me
(it burns 6 /64s by default the instant you turn it on, and can burn more
if
you start doing VLAN'ing or other
On Jun 19, 2014, at 2:02 PM, Daniel Ankers md1...@md1clv.com wrote:
One of the key things with IPv6 (IMHO) is to stop thinking about addresses,
and instead just think about networks. Judging by Owen's earlier mail I
may not have that quite right and the key might even be to think about
On 19 June 2014 14:07, Daniel Ankers md1...@md1clv.com wrote:
How does it use those 6 /64s? That seems to be getting towards the
interesting times where the way devices work with v6 is very different to
how they would have worked with v6
Bridging between (slow) 802.11 and (fast) ethernet
On Thu, 19 Jun 2014 19:07:48 +0100, Daniel Ankers said:
How does it use those 6 /64s? That seems to be getting towards the
interesting times where the way devices work with v6 is very different to
how they would have worked with v6
If I remember right, it's:
Private net on the 2.4ghz radio
On Jun 19, 2014, at 11:48 , Harald Koch c...@pobox.com wrote:
On 19 June 2014 14:07, Daniel Ankers md1...@md1clv.com wrote:
How does it use those 6 /64s? That seems to be getting towards the
interesting times where the way devices work with v6 is very different to
how they would have
On Tuesday, June 17, 2014 10:36:49 PM Grzegorz Janoszka
wrote:
There are
application which break if provided with /80 or /120,
Which ones?
Mark.
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On 17 June 2014 23:39, John Levine jo...@iecc.com wrote:
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+1+1+1 re living room
My cable company assigns my home network a /50. I can figure out what
to do with two of the /64s (wired and wireless
On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 11:26:16 -0400
rw...@ropeguru.com rw...@ropeguru.com wrote:
I don't think it is harsh when they lead their customers on with no
progress.
https://www.digitalocean.com/community/questions/is-ipv6-available
My cable company assigns my home network a /50. I can figure out what
to do with two of the /64s (wired and wireless networks), but I'm
currently stumped on the other 16,382 of them. ...
I figure that with the larger allocations to homes or offices the question
isn't how do I allocate all of
Of course, one could also read the giant paragraph written by the CEO
and see exactly what's going on, including the info about the other data
centers and the new ones coming up.
I love how people whine that operators don't deploy IPv6 quickly enough,
and they cry even harder when it's
On Jun 18, 2014, at 09:07 , John Levine jo...@iecc.com wrote:
My cable company assigns my home network a /50. I can figure out what
to do with two of the /64s (wired and wireless networks), but I'm
currently stumped on the other 16,382 of them. ...
I figure that with the larger
On 6/18/14 2:44 PM, John R. Levine jo...@iecc.com wrote:
I find the /50 particularly odd as it's not a nibble boundary and very
close to /48. It's almost certain this is an operator who fails to
grasp
that they could have easily gotten a larger allocation from their RIR
if
they just asked
On 18 June 2014 19:05, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote:
OTOH, it's far better than those ridiculous providers that are screwing
over their customers with /56s or even worse, /60s.
Sad, really.
Owen
Is giving a /56 to residential customers REALLY screwing them over?
It may be a failure
On Jun 18, 2014, at 7:37 PM, Daniel Ankers md1...@md1clv.com wrote:
On 18 June 2014 19:05, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote:
OTOH, it's far better than those ridiculous providers that are screwing
over their customers with /56s or even worse, /60s.
Sad, really.
Owen
Is giving a
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 11:37 PM, Daniel Ankers md1...@md1clv.com wrote:
On 18 June 2014 19:05, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote:
OTOH, it's far better than those ridiculous providers that are screwing
over their customers with /56s or even worse, /60s.
Sad, really.
Owen
Is giving a
I have not tried it out, this makes it look like DO beat Azure to market
on ipv6
http://venturebeat.com/2014/06/17/digitalocean-ipv6/
Speaking of Azure and ip adresses
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2363580/need-to-move-to-ipv6-highlighted-as-microsoft-runs-out-of-us-address-space.html
Not impressed at all. DO customers have been asking for IPv6 for
around two years now with responses of, It's coming. Now they are
getting press because they are rollingit our ONLY in their Singapore
market which is its newest data center. Those of us here in the US are
still getting the same
I think that's a bit harsh. I congratulate them for getting the first step done
in the process of making it available for all customers.
Jared Mauch
On Jun 17, 2014, at 10:35 AM, rw...@ropeguru.com rw...@ropeguru.com wrote:
Not impressed at all. DO customers have been asking for IPv6 for
, June 17, 2014 10:35 AM
To: Ca By; nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Credit to Digital Ocean for ipv6 offering
Not impressed at all. DO customers have been asking for IPv6 for around
two years now with responses of, It's coming. Now they are getting
press because they are rollingit our ONLY
I don't think it is harsh when they lead their customers on with no
progress.
https://www.digitalocean.com/community/questions/is-ipv6-available
digitalocean.uservoice.com/forums/136585-digital-ocean/suggestions/2639897-ipv6-addresses
Take note of the original post dates and the responses.
On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 10:35:17AM -0400, rw...@ropeguru.com wrote:
Not impressed at all. DO customers have been asking for IPv6 for
around two years now with responses of, It's coming. Now they are
getting press because they are rollingit our ONLY in their Singapore
market which is its
On Jun 17, 2014, at 11:26 AM, rw...@ropeguru.com wrote:
I don't think it is harsh when they lead their customers on with no progress.
https://www.digitalocean.com/community/questions/is-ipv6-available
On Jun 17, 2014, at 12:30 PM, Bryan Seitz se...@bsd-unix.net wrote:
Agreed as well. It isn't hard to dual stack, maybe they bought some junk
gear that has issues in the older datacenters? :)
We all have junk kicking around that we wish we didn't have.
Howevveeerrr they are also the
On Jun 17, 2014, at 7:35 AM, rw...@ropeguru.com wrote:
There are other VPS's out there that are already givinf IPv6 addresses.
Yep, I use rootbsd.net and arpnetworks.com and have been happy with both.
I have two with www.peakservers.com where I get one IPv4 and 8 IPv6 addresses.
Wait. What?
There are other VPS's out there that are already givinf IPv6
addresses.
Yep, I use rootbsd.net and arpnetworks.com and have been happy with
both.
I have two with www.peakservers.com where I get one IPv4 and 8 IPv6
addresses.
Wait. What? Do you mean 8 /64s?
No, 8 individual IPv6
On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 13:14:04 -0400, rw...@ropeguru.com said:
No, 8 individual IPv6 addresses.
Wow. Harsh. I burn more than that just in my living room.
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On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 13:25:37 -0400
valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:
On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 13:14:04 -0400, rw...@ropeguru.com said:
No, 8 individual IPv6 addresses.
Wow. Harsh. I burn more than that just in my living room.
I don't think that is too harsh as all 8 are assigned to a single
There have also been reports from some DO users of HE tunnels being
blocked. Not sure what the status of that is.
It was all rumors. All the tunnel providers have been never blocked us or
anyone who wanted to previously add a tunnel to our virtual servers. HE
has been generously peering with
On 6/17/14, 1:29 PM, rw...@ropeguru.com wrote:
On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 13:25:37 -0400
valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:
On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 13:14:04 -0400, rw...@ropeguru.com said:
No, 8 individual IPv6 addresses.
Wow. Harsh. I burn more than that just in my living room.
I don't think that is
On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Alan Clegg a...@clegg.com wrote:
On 6/17/14, 1:29 PM, rw...@ropeguru.com wrote:
On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 13:25:37 -0400
valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:
On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 13:14:04 -0400, rw...@ropeguru.com said:
No, 8 individual IPv6 addresses.
Wow.
On 6/17/2014 3:19 PM, Matthew Petach wrote:
On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Alan Clegg a...@clegg.com wrote:
On 6/17/14, 1:29 PM, rw...@ropeguru.com wrote:
On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 13:25:37 -0400
valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:
On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 13:14:04 -0400, rw...@ropeguru.com said:
Robert,
On Jun 17, 2014, at 10:29 AM, rw...@ropeguru.com wrote:
On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 13:25:37 -0400
valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:
On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 13:14:04 -0400, rw...@ropeguru.com said:
No, 8 individual IPv6 addresses.
Wow. Harsh. I burn more than that just in my living room.
I don't
On 2014-06-17 21:46, David Conrad wrote:
No, 8 individual IPv6 addresses.
Wow. Harsh. I burn more than that just in my living room.
I don't think that is too harsh as all 8 are assigned to a single server. So if
I have three VPS's, I have 24 total addresses.
In the case of my 3 VPS's, I've
On Jun 17, 2014, at 12:55 PM, Grzegorz Janoszka grzeg...@janoszka.pl wrote:
There are still applications that break with subnet smaller than /64, so all
VPS providers probably have to use /64 addressing.
Wouldn't that argue for /64s?
/64 for one customer seems to be too much,
In what way?
+1+1+1 re living room
On Jun 17, 2014 12:32 PM, rw...@ropeguru.com rw...@ropeguru.com wrote:
On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 13:25:37 -0400
valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:
On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 13:14:04 -0400, rw...@ropeguru.com said:
No, 8 individual IPv6 addresses.
Wow. Harsh. I burn more than
On 2014-06-17 22:13, David Conrad wrote:
On Jun 17, 2014, at 12:55 PM, Grzegorz Janoszka grzeg...@janoszka.pl wrote:
There are still applications that break with subnet smaller than /64, so all
VPS providers probably have to use /64 addressing.
Wouldn't that argue for /64s?
/64 netmask,
On Jun 17, 2014, at 12:55 , Grzegorz Janoszka grzeg...@janoszka.pl wrote:
On 2014-06-17 21:46, David Conrad wrote:
No, 8 individual IPv6 addresses.
Wow. Harsh. I burn more than that just in my living room.
I don't think that is too harsh as all 8 are assigned to a single server.
So if I
On Jun 17, 2014, at 13:36 , Grzegorz Janoszka grzeg...@janoszka.pl wrote:
On 2014-06-17 22:13, David Conrad wrote:
On Jun 17, 2014, at 12:55 PM, Grzegorz Janoszka grzeg...@janoszka.pl wrote:
There are still applications that break with subnet smaller than /64, so
all VPS providers probably
Once upon a time, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com said:
The router would route the /56 or /52 to the physical server. The hypervisor
would have connected routes for the subordinate /64s and provide RAs to give
default to the various VPSs.
Doing anything that ties networks to physical servers is
On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 16:26:47 -0500, Chris Adams said:
Doing anything that ties networks to physical servers is a poor design
for a VPS environment. That would mean that any VM migration requires
customers to renumber (so no live migration allowed at all).
Why? Two hypervisors tossing a
In article CABL6YZT7sSFxdBL1_UDVc2_t3X1drW0_AToHE51o2Pd=obd...@mail.gmail.com
you write:
+1+1+1 re living room
My cable company assigns my home network a /50. I can figure out what
to do with two of the /64s (wired and wireless networks), but I'm
currently stumped on the other 16,382 of them.
announce them so folks can use the space as darknets…
/bill
PO Box 12317
Marina del Rey, CA 90295
310.322.8102
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