The single road, or two road situation is extremely similar to what is
happening right now in some parts of canada, with massive forest fires in
the northwest territories, cutting off Yellowknife and rural communities.
If the fiber is built along the one road that exists, and that one road
gets
It’s SUPER common for all of the carriers on a cell site to share the same common backhaul path. And I can tell you from personal hands-on experience the majority (90+%) of cell sites in the US have simplex connectivity.On Aug 17, 2023, at 2:00 PM, TJ Trout wrote:I'm familiar with the island,
On 8/17/23 6:28 PM, Michael Thomas wrote:
On 8/17/23 11:26 AM, scott via NANOG wrote:
I don't want to overwhelm the list, but since there's interest here's
something interesting I just now got from the electric company. 400
poles and 300 transformers. Wow!
Those of us from
On 8/17/23 11:26 AM, scott via NANOG wrote:
I don't want to overwhelm the list, but since there's interest here's
something interesting I just now got from the electric company. 400
poles and 300 transformers. Wow!
Those of us from California and the west have watched this in abject
Hi all - I've also asked the Nomad Futurist Foundation for sources for
help. Here are a few if you are interested. There will also be a number
of initiatives to help with goods/services donations which would be great.
Hope these help too:
Maui Food Bank: https://mauifoodbank.org/
Maui Humane
I don't want to overwhelm the list, but since there's interest here's
something interesting I just now got from the electric company. 400
poles and 300 transformers. Wow!
scott
Over the past week, I have been with our teams on Maui that have
helped safely restore power to 80% of the
I missed some of the below yesterday.
"Though I am curious about the Paniolo cable landing in Lahaina. Did it
survive"
I believe a land section of the Paniolo cable was not burned and I think
that's what they used. Perhaps it was actually the undersea part and I
just don't have access
> On Aug 17, 2023, at 1:55 PM, TJ Trout wrote:
>
> I'm familiar with the island, it's it's puzzling that the major 3 cell
> carriers would accept a single point of failure like that, you would think
> they had microwave backup at minimum. Maybe it was a generator issue.
>
It’s common for
I'm familiar with the island, it's it's puzzling that the major 3 cell
carriers would accept a single point of failure like that, you would think
they had microwave backup at minimum. Maybe it was a generator issue.
I'm sure a few cells burned but there are over ten on the west side so they
On 8/17/23 3:14 AM, Jason Kuehl wrote:
I would be willing to travel down to help restore infra; I did this back
around Sandy as well. Is there anyone we can contact?
I am not sure who to contact. I don't work with the fiber guys as I am
a router guy. I could only tell you to call the
On Wed, Aug 16, 2023 at 6:43 PM scott via NANOG wrote:
> Last, it's an island and diverse paths are
> short in number.
To put it into perspective: there are exactly TWO roads that can get
you from Lahaina back to Kahului and the airport. One of them is a
narrow, cliff-hugging single lane road
“Big, undersea, mpls network”. Doesn’t get much cooler than that ;)
Aaron
> On Aug 16, 2023, at 9:51 PM, scott via NANOG wrote:
>
>
>
>> On 8/17/23 2:03 AM, John Levine wrote:
>> According to Eric Kuhnke :
>>> -=-=-=-=-=-
>>>
>>> It's my understanding that the Hawaiian ILEC is now owned
I would be willing to travel down to help restore infra; I did this back
around Sandy as well. Is there anyone we can contact?
On Wed, Aug 16, 2023 at 10:51 PM scott via NANOG wrote:
>
>
> On 8/17/23 2:03 AM, John Levine wrote:
> > According to Eric Kuhnke :
> >> -=-=-=-=-=-
> >>
> >> It's my
On 8/17/23 2:03 AM, John Levine wrote:
According to Eric Kuhnke :
-=-=-=-=-=-
It's my understanding that the Hawaiian ILEC is now owned by Cincinnati
Bell, which is also a unique historical artifact, as it was its own
independent corporation/operating entity in the region of Cincinnati
On 8/17/23 1:08 AM, Eric Kuhnke wrote:
It's my understanding that the Hawaiian ILEC is now owned by Cincinnati
Bell, which is also a unique historical artifact, as it was its own
independent corporation/operating entity in the region of Cincinnati
during the era of the pre-1984 Bell system.
On 8/16/23 4:32 PM, Jay R. Ashworth wrote:
- Original Message -
From: "scott via NANOG"
On 8/11/23 4:06 AM, Mark Tinka wrote:
It's like a war zone.
Yes, it definitely looks like that. We have connectivity to some of the
edges and have put up hotspots, so folks can go to the
According to Eric Kuhnke :
>-=-=-=-=-=-
>
>It's my understanding that the Hawaiian ILEC is now owned by Cincinnati
>Bell, which is also a unique historical artifact, as it was its own
>independent corporation/operating entity in the region of Cincinnati during
>the era of the pre-1984 Bell system.
On 8/16/23 3:58 AM, TJ Trout wrote:
I found it interesting that *all*? cellular service on west maui died?
Does every carrier single-home via waves served out of the Lahaina CO?
Or maybe they aren't allowed to have generators in Maui? Seems like they
would have diverse paths to major sites
It's my understanding that the Hawaiian ILEC is now owned by Cincinnati
Bell, which is also a unique historical artifact, as it was its own
independent corporation/operating entity in the region of Cincinnati during
the era of the pre-1984 Bell system.
Somewhat like how GTE was independent in
On 8/16/23 09:32, Jay R. Ashworth wrote:
Well, it sounds like the historical Bell System attitude has transitioned
forwards to ... newer transport. Good.
Legacy GTE in this case, but agreed.
Best of luck to you all, out there.
Indeed.
--
Jay Hennigan - j...@west.net
Network Engineering
- Original Message -
> From: "scott via NANOG"
> On 8/11/23 4:06 AM, Mark Tinka wrote:
>> It's like a war zone.
>
> Yes, it definitely looks like that. We have connectivity to some of the
> edges and have put up hotspots, so folks can go to the hotspot areas and
> get internet access.
Not many physical paths available in that area. I would assume there are also a handful of wireless paths as well.Plus, it’s likely most of the cell sites burnt down during the fires.-MikeOn Aug 15, 2023, at 22:54, TJ Trout wrote:I found it interesting that *all*? cellular service on west maui
I found it interesting that *all*? cellular service on west maui died? Does
every carrier single-home via waves served out of the Lahaina CO? Or maybe
they aren't allowed to have generators in Maui? Seems like they would have
diverse paths to major sites
On Tue, Aug 15, 2023 at 6:55 PM scott
On Tue, Aug 15, 2023, 5:21 PM scott via NANOG
On 8/11/23 4:06 AM, Mark Tinka wrote:
> It's like a war zone.
Yes, it definitely looks like that. We have connectivity to some of the
edges and have put up hotspots, so folks can go to the hotspot areas
and
get internet
Scott: Just an FYI that anecdotal reports from social media coming in or
stating that residents have been unable to connect to the Wi-Fi hotspots
that the local government have been promoting in the Lahaina area.
On Tue, Aug 15, 2023, 5:21 PM scott via NANOG wrote:
>
>
> On 8/11/23 4:06 AM,
On 8/11/23 4:06 AM, Mark Tinka wrote:
It's like a war zone.
Yes, it definitely looks like that. We have connectivity to some of the
edges and have put up hotspots, so folks can go to the hotspot areas and
get internet access.
scott
On 8/11/23 3:17 AM, Eric Kuhnke wrote:
Recently saw an aerial video where an entire neighborhood in Laihana had
burned down *except* for the concrete block structure small ILEC CO.
Pictures I have seen of other ILEC sites in Hawaii closely resemble some
GTE sites in the Pacific Northwest
On 8/11/23 05:17, Eric Kuhnke wrote:
Recently saw an aerial video where an entire neighborhood in Laihana
had burned down *except* for the concrete block structure small ILEC CO.
Pictures I have seen of other ILEC sites in Hawaii closely resemble
some GTE sites in the Pacific Northwest
Recently saw an aerial video where an entire neighborhood in Laihana had
burned down *except* for the concrete block structure small ILEC CO.
Pictures I have seen of other ILEC sites in Hawaii closely resemble some
GTE sites in the Pacific Northwest (now Ziply), which makes sense with the
history
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