Hi,
On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 13:44:56 -0800
Leo Bicknell bickn...@ufp.org wrote:
In a message written on Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 04:36:28PM -0500,
Christopher Morrow wrote:
leaking the IX prefix to customers, to me, seems like a recipe for
much wider/unintended leakage :(
Oh, it is. I remember
From: Yaoqing(Joey) Liu [mailto:joey.li...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 7:04 PM
To: Michael K. Smith - Adhost
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Internet Exchange Point(IXP) questions
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 8:17 PM, Michael K. Smith - Adhost
mksm...@adhost.commailto:mksm
17, 2011 7:04 PM
To: Michael K. Smith - Adhost
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Internet Exchange Point(IXP) questions
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 8:17 PM, Michael K. Smith - Adhost mksm...@adhost.com
wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Yaoqing(Joey) Liu [mailto:joey.li...@gmail.com]
Sent
On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 1:43 PM, Michael K. Smith - Adhost
mksm...@adhost.com wrote:
Sorry for the misfire on my last email. The 206.81.80.0/23 network is
assigned to the SIX from ARIN. In general, we don't want
people to announce that space to the DFZ, so the three providers listed above
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From: christopher.mor...@gmail.com
[mailto:christopher.mor...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Morrow
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 11:34 AM
To: Michael K. Smith - Adhost
Cc: Yaoqing(Joey) Liu; nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Internet Exchange Point(IXP
On 2011-02-18, at 14:34, Christopher Morrow wrote:
On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 1:43 PM, Michael K. Smith - Adhost
mksm...@adhost.com wrote:
Sorry for the misfire on my last email. The 206.81.80.0/23 network is
assigned to the SIX from ARIN. In general, we don't want
people to announce
In a message written on Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 02:34:21PM -0500, Christopher
Morrow wrote:
why is it a good idea to send this to your customers? the next-hop
info is surely only useful to your local network? done right it's even
only relevant to the IX connected router, right? it seems wholely
On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 4:29 PM, Leo Bicknell bickn...@ufp.org wrote:
In a message written on Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 02:34:21PM -0500, Christopher
Morrow wrote:
why is it a good idea to send this to your customers? the next-hop
info is surely only useful to your local network? done right it's
On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 4:24 PM, Michael K. Smith - Adhost
mksm...@adhost.com wrote:
-Original Message-
From: christopher.mor...@gmail.com
why is it a good idea to send this to your customers? the next-hop
info is surely only useful to your local network? done right it's even
only
In a message written on Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 04:36:28PM -0500, Christopher
Morrow wrote:
leaking the IX prefix to customers, to me, seems like a recipe for
much wider/unintended leakage :(
Oh, it is. I remember when MAE-EAST was injected by at least 50 people
into the DFZ because back then
In a message written on Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 04:37:05PM -0500, Christopher
Morrow wrote:
On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 4:24 PM, Michael K. Smith - Adhost
I was thinking about what Leo said about tools that test each hop through a
path. At least my downstream customers will be able to test
On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 4:46 PM, Leo Bicknell bickn...@ufp.org wrote:
The customers cloging up your help desk with this sort of stuff are
idiots. Unfortunately that's where the majority of your helpdesk time
goes...
i admit to missing it :( but yes, now with the explanation, I get your point
I'm doing some research on multiple origin AS problems of IXPs. As I know,
generally there are two types of IXPs
type 1: use exchange routers, which works in layer 3
type 2: use switches and Ethernet topology, which works in layer 2.
So I have a couple of qustions:
1. For type 1, the exchange
-Original Message-
From: Yaoqing(Joey) Liu [mailto:joey.li...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 6:03 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Internet Exchange Point(IXP) questions
I'm doing some research on multiple origin AS problems of IXPs. As I know,
generally there are two
In a message written on Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 02:17:48AM +, Michael K. Smith
- Adhost wrote:
On the Seattle Internet Exchange (SIX) we have ARIN-assigned addresses that
we use on the Layer 2 fabric (your type 2 above). Hopefully the addresses
aren't being announced at all, although we
On the Seattle Internet Exchange (SIX) we have ARIN-assigned
addresses that we use on the Layer 2 fabric (your type 2 above).
Hopefully the addresses aren't being announced at all, although we
sometimes have to chase down people that announce it.
I've had to deal with exchanges like this in
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 8:17 PM, Michael K. Smith - Adhost
mksm...@adhost.com wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Yaoqing(Joey) Liu [mailto:joey.li...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 6:03 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Internet Exchange Point(IXP) questions
I'm
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On Feb 17, 2011, at 6:03 PM, Yaoqing(Joey) Liu wrote:
As I know, generally there are two types of IXPs
This is incorrect.
type 1: use exchange routers, which works in layer 3
This is not an IXP. This is a router. That router would be owned by
type 1: use exchange routers, which works in layer 3
This is not an IXP. This is a router. That router would be owned by
someone, who would have some sort of policy in the router, which would
make it an Internet service provider, not an Internet exchange point.
this from the guy who pushed
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On Feb 17, 2011, at 7:24 PM, Randy Bush wrote:
this from the guy who pushed layer three exchange points for years?
rofl!
I was one of the people who built one in 1994, and used it quite happily for a
few years, until it had outlasted its need.
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