Re: Low to Mid Range DWDM Platforms

2023-10-24 Thread Collin Rose
, no CLI, no internal web interface, etc. Collin R From: NANOG on behalf of Mike Hammett Date: Friday, October 6, 2023 at 5:43 PM To: David Bass Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Low to Mid Range DWDM Platforms Well, and that's kinda where I was going. I've used FS passive systems for years. FS

Re: Low to Mid Range DWDM Platforms

2023-10-20 Thread Mark Tinka
On 10/19/23 22:24, Chad Lamb via NANOG wrote: XKL is still here ... Some caveats on 400G ZR/ZR+ devices: - They are power hungry, cooling is a challenge.  800G even more so.  The OSFP package for 800G looks like the better choice than QSFP-DD for this reason.  We'll see, we need more

Re: Low to Mid Range DWDM Platforms

2023-10-20 Thread Chad Lamb via NANOG
XKL is still here ... Some caveats on 400G ZR/ZR+ devices: - They are power hungry, cooling is a challenge.  800G even more so.  The OSFP package for 800G looks like the better choice than QSFP-DD for this reason.  We'll see, we need more mileage on this. - For the ZR devices, not all vendors

Re: Low to Mid Range DWDM Platforms

2023-10-09 Thread Thomas Croghan
I did some work with their passive DWDM equipment. Everything was within spec and seemed to work fine for the year I was there after we deployed it. Actually being honest, we did all our light loss math based on FS's specs and we ended up having to use attenuators in one instance. So be certain

Re: Low to Mid Range DWDM Platforms

2023-10-09 Thread michael brooks - ESC
>On the same topic, anyone have experience with the stuff from fs.com ? We use their patch cables, both SM and MM. Solid product, and good to

Re: Low to Mid Range DWDM Platforms

2023-10-08 Thread David Bass
7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------ > *From: *"David Bass" > *To: *"Dave Bell" > *Cc: *nanog@nanog.org > *Sent: *Friday, October 6, 2023 8:55:21 AM > > *Subject: *Re: Low to Mid Range DWDM Platforms > > On the same topic, anyone have exp

Re: Low to Mid Range DWDM Platforms

2023-10-07 Thread Mark Tinka
Finally, the name came to me :-): https://www.xkl.com/ Looks like they are still in business. Mark. On 10/6/23 16:02, Mark Tinka wrote: On 10/6/23 15:52, Dave Bell wrote: Smartoptics? https://smartoptics.com/ Not them. I want to say they had an "X" in their name, but memory is fuzzy.

Re: Low to Mid Range DWDM Platforms

2023-10-07 Thread Hank Nussbacher
On 06/10/2023 16:07, Mike Hammett wrote: I  have found that for low end DWDM solutions, https://www.packetlight.com/ has always been the cheapest available. Regards, Hank I've been using various forms of passive WDM for years. I have a couple different projects on my plate that require me

RE: Low to Mid Range DWDM Platforms

2023-10-06 Thread Tim Burke
To: Dave Bell ; Mark Tinka Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Low to Mid Range DWDM Platforms I have several of the Smart Optics DCP-M40's in place. If you are using coherent 100G DWDM optics, you can push the M40-ZR's to 100-120km. The exact reach depends, of course, on the quality of the fiber

Re: Low to Mid Range DWDM Platforms

2023-10-06 Thread Mike Hammett
Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "David Bass" To: "Dave Bell" Cc: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Friday, October 6, 2023 8:55:21 AM Subject: Re: Low to Mid Range DWDM Platforms On the same topic, an

Re: Low to Mid Range DWDM Platforms

2023-10-06 Thread Mark Tinka
On 10/6/23 15:53, Dave Cohen wrote: My experience is primarily with the traditional carrier-grade folks like Ciena, Infinera, etc. but over the last decade all of those vendors have focused on improving how they scale down without sacrificing (most of the) quality and functionality - to

Re: Low to Mid Range DWDM Platforms

2023-10-06 Thread Mark Tinka
On 10/6/23 15:52, Dave Bell wrote: Smartoptics? https://smartoptics.com/ Not them. I want to say they had an "X" in their name, but memory is fuzzy. Mark.

Re: Low to Mid Range DWDM Platforms

2023-10-06 Thread Joe Freeman
AM To: Mark Tinka Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Low to Mid Range DWDM Platforms Smartoptics? https://smartoptics.com/ Regards, Dave On Fri, 6 Oct 2023 at 14:43, Mark Tinka wrote: On 10/6/23 15:07, Mike Hammett wrote: > I've been using various forms of passive WDM for years. I h

Re: Low to Mid Range DWDM Platforms

2023-10-06 Thread Ryan Hamel
to Mid Range DWDM Platforms Caution: This is an external email and may be malicious. Please take care when clicking links or opening attachments. Smartoptics? https://smartoptics.com/ Regards, Dave On Fri, 6 Oct 2023 at 14:43, Mark Tinka wrote: On 10/6/23 15:07, Mike Hammett wrote: > I've b

Re: Low to Mid Range DWDM Platforms

2023-10-06 Thread David Bass
On the same topic, anyone have experience with the stuff from fs.com? On Fri, Oct 6, 2023 at 9:53 AM Dave Bell wrote: > Smartoptics? > > https://smartoptics.com/ > > Regards, > Dave > > On Fri, 6 Oct 2023 at 14:43, Mark Tinka wrote: > >> >> >> On 10/6/23 15:07, Mike Hammett wrote: >> >> > I've

Re: Low to Mid Range DWDM Platforms

2023-10-06 Thread Mel Beckman
One of my clients is Calient Technologies: https://www.calient.net/ Their S320 optical switch is entirely photonic — no electrical transceivers in any optical path at all — using 3D MEMS technology. It’s great for reliable multi-lambda provisioning, and sports built-in power monitoring and

Re: Low to Mid Range DWDM Platforms

2023-10-06 Thread Dave Cohen
My experience is primarily with the traditional carrier-grade folks like Ciena, Infinera, etc. but over the last decade all of those vendors have focused on improving how they scale down without sacrificing (most of the) quality and functionality - to varying degrees of success. There are also

Re: Low to Mid Range DWDM Platforms

2023-10-06 Thread Dave Bell
Smartoptics? https://smartoptics.com/ Regards, Dave On Fri, 6 Oct 2023 at 14:43, Mark Tinka wrote: > > > On 10/6/23 15:07, Mike Hammett wrote: > > > I've been using various forms of passive WDM for years. I have a couple > different projects on my plate that require me to look at the next

Re: Low to Mid Range DWDM Platforms

2023-10-06 Thread Mark Tinka
On 10/6/23 15:07, Mike Hammett wrote: I've been using various forms of passive WDM for years. I have a couple different projects on my plate that require me to look at the next level of platform. In some projects, I'll be looking for needing to have someone long distances of glass

Low to Mid Range DWDM Platforms

2023-10-06 Thread Mike Hammett
I've been using various forms of passive WDM for years. I have a couple different projects on my plate that require me to look at the next level of platform. In some projects, I'll be looking for needing to have someone long distances of glass without any electronics. Some spans could be over