From: Ricky Beam [mailto:jfb...@gmail.com]
On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 08:08:44 -0400, Michael Kehoe
michael.k.ke...@gmail.com wrote:
As far as I'm aware (someone please correct me if I'm wrong), but Cisco
is the only vendor that supports this.
Ascend did as well. I used to backup the MAX-TNT's
On (2013-10-24 23:05 -0400), Erik Muller wrote:
Rancid certainly has its warts, but other than needing to test, pull
hair, and patch things for new OS/platform deployments, it still
generally Just Works once you have it installed, IME... and
references like
For us problem with rancid is that
On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 10:07:49 +0300
Saku Ytti s...@ytti.fi wrote:
On (2013-10-24 23:05 -0400), Erik Muller wrote:
Rancid certainly has its warts, but other than needing to test, pull
hair, and patch things for new OS/platform deployments, it still
generally Just Works once you have it
On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 11:25:26PM +0200, Job Snijders wrote:
As I am evaluating our path forward, I've compiled a small list of open
source projects with some biased highlights. Your feedback is most
welcome, maybe I missed some interesting projects or developments. I
would also be very
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 12:59:48PM +0100, Matthew Newton wrote:
I'll try and post the script (250 lines) somewhere if anyone's
interested.
It is almost always good to open source your tools, for others to learn
and benefit from! :-)
Kind regards,
Job
pgppFb_K8NqR2.pgp
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On (2013-10-25 10:43 +0200), Martin Pels wrote:
The diff-ed backups that rancid provides serve another purpose: verifying that
what your NMS says should be configured matches the actual device
configurations.
Diffing one rancid config to another rancid config would not help with this at
all.
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 02:27:42PM +0200, Job Snijders wrote:
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 12:59:48PM +0100, Matthew Newton wrote:
I'll try and post the script (250 lines) somewhere if anyone's
interested.
It is almost always good to open source your tools, for others to learn
and benefit
There are companies like Tail-F who are trying to use things like YANG
definitions to dynamically build a standardized CLI which is sort of
cross-platform compatible. The CLI you connect to is external to any
network equipment which records changes, does checking ahead of time, and
records atomic
I've been intrigued by the stuff going on with NetKit and Autonetkit (
http://www.autonetkit.org). See the preso from Pycon 2013 in Australia:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGK5jjyUBCQ
It seems like all the bits are available between the various efforts of
applications but nothing that really
On (2013-10-25 10:22 -0400), Phil Bedard wrote:
There are companies like Tail-F who are trying to use things like YANG
Tail-F is very cool, but it needs support for both direction.
Abstract data - Vendor Config(easy problem, just agnostic ascii template)
Vendor Config - Abstract data
I am unsure what we as networkers have done in the past, but I am sure
we've done our fair share of atonement and don't have to keep using
RANCID.
Some people in this thread have been mentioning config generators. There is
/ was something called netomata. A web search brings up various
On 10/25/13 07:59, Matthew Newton wrote:
For the last ~8 years we've used a very simple in-house bash
script that uses SNMP to tell the switch to write its config using
tftp, and then does a wr mem. It then checks the configs into a
subversion repository and e-mails out any diffs.
One criteria
The vendor config-abstract data (really structured data) is the point of
YANG definitions. I think I'm correct but Tail-F's system works by
importing the YANG definitions from the router and it builds the CLI
interpreter based on those definitions. The trick is getting the
standards bodies and
On (2013-10-25 14:27 -0400), Phil Bedard wrote:
The vendor config-abstract data (really structured data) is the point of
YANG definitions. I think I'm correct but Tail-F's system works by
interpreter based on those definitions. The trick is getting the
standards bodies and vendors to
SNMP is a good/ quick way to do it, however you should keep in mind that
your configurations are not being sent securely if you're using tftp. Cisco
devices do allow you to also use ftp, rcp, scp and sftp.
As far as I'm aware (someone please correct me if I'm wrong), but Cisco is
the only vendor
How simple do you want to get? We do something like this:
!
archive
path tftp://1.2.3.4/$h-
write-memory
!
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From: Job Snijders [mailto:job.snijd...@hibernianetworks.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2013 5:25 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Network configuration
On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 08:08:44 -0400, Michael Kehoe
michael.k.ke...@gmail.com wrote:
As far as I'm aware (someone please correct me if I'm wrong), but Cisco
is the only vendor that supports this.
Ascend did as well. I used to backup the MAX-TNT's via snmp.
(I've not researched the subject in
On Oct 25, 2013, at 8:08 AM, Michael Kehoe michael.k.ke...@gmail.com wrote:
As far as I'm aware (someone please correct me if I'm wrong), but Cisco is
the only vendor that supports this.
It's almost as easy to have a python/ perl script to do the exact same
thing as Matthew described but
Dear all,
I am unsure what we as networkers have done in the past, but I am sure
we've done our fair share of atonement and don't have to keep using
RANCID.
Some might say it took ages to get rancid to do kinda what we want!,
but not all software ages well. One might work in environments
On 10/24/13 17:25 , Job Snijders wrote:
Some might say it took ages to get rancid to do kinda what we want!,
but not all software ages well. One might work in environments where
archived configurations are needed to even start provisioning, one
might desire a separation between actual config and
Rancid is known to crash cisco devices doing config backups. I've seen it on
7200/7500 routers multiple times
Tammy
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On Oct 24, 2013, at 21:05, Erik Muller er...@buh.org wrote:
On 10/24/13 17:25 , Job Snijders wrote:
Some might say it took ages to get rancid to do kinda
On 25/10/2013 11:19, Tammy Firefly wrote:
Rancid is known to crash cisco devices doing config backups. I've seen
it on 7200/7500 routers multiple times
this isn't a rancid problem though.
Nick
On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 10:19 PM, Tammy Firefly tammy-li...@wiztech.bizwrote:
Rancid is known to crash cisco devices doing config backups. I've seen it
on 7200/7500 routers multiple times
I don't doubt it, but since RANCID only uses show commands; I would
suspect that any similar tool that
On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Job Snijders
job.snijd...@hibernianetworks.com wrote:
Dear all,
I am unsure what we as networkers have done in the past, but I am sure
we've done our fair share of atonement and don't have to keep using
RANCID.
Does the nature of the codebase and future
Yes I 100% agree its a IOS bug. It had something to do with the way it ended a
ssh session.
That was one reason we got rid of cisco at our edges and use juniper which has
config backup built into JunOS (via ssh/FTP)
--Tammy
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On Oct 24, 2013, at 21:29, Jimmy Hess
No it's not rancids fault :)
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On Oct 24, 2013, at 21:25, Nick Hilliard n...@foobar.org wrote:
On 25/10/2013 11:19, Tammy Firefly wrote:
Rancid is known to crash cisco devices doing config backups. I've seen
it on 7200/7500 routers multiple times
this isn't a rancid
Hiw about SolarWinds Config Mgmt software?
On Oct 24, 2013 8:38 PM, Jimmy Hess mysi...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Job Snijders
job.snijd...@hibernianetworks.com wrote:
Dear all,
I am unsure what we as networkers have done in the past, but I am sure
we've done our
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Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2013 11:45 PM
To: Jimmy Hess
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Network configuration archiving
Hiw about SolarWinds Config Mgmt software?
On Oct 24, 2013 8:38 PM, Jimmy Hess mysi...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Job Snijders
job.snijd
Is that licensed per device or per user out of curiosity ?
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On Oct 24, 2013, at 21:45, Kenneth McRae kenneth.mc...@dreamhost.com wrote:
Hiw about SolarWinds Config Mgmt software?
On Oct 24, 2013 8:38 PM, Jimmy Hess mysi...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 4:25
By device or you can purchase an unlimited device count..
On Oct 24, 2013 8:59 PM, Tammy Firefly tammy-li...@wiztech.biz wrote:
Is that licensed per device or per user out of curiosity ?
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 24, 2013, at 21:45, Kenneth McRae kenneth.mc...@dreamhost.com
wrote:
Hiw
Or use perfectly good (RANCID + cvsweb) free software. Hmm.
On Thu, 24 Oct 2013, Kenneth McRae wrote:
By device or you can purchase an unlimited device count..
On Oct 24, 2013 8:59 PM, Tammy Firefly tammy-li...@wiztech.biz wrote:
Is that licensed per device or per user out of curiosity ?
Rancid is great, we use it. It's hard to justify paying money for
something that really isn't that complicated, especially stupid licensing
fees.
One of my problems with rancid though is that many of the commands it runs
can be somewhat intrusive, and also smacks of trying to use a configuration
Subject: Network configuration archiving
Dear all,
I am unsure what we as networkers have done in the past, but I am sure
we've done our fair share of atonement and don't have to keep using
RANCID.
Some might say it took ages to get rancid to do kinda what we want!,
but not all software ages well
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