Re: How to begin making my own ISP?
Hello, If you are able to read french, there are useful informations : the fai-locaux mailing list archives : https://lists.fdn.fr/wws A series of posts on this blog : http://blog.spyou.org/wordpress-mu/2010/06/09/comment-devenir-son-propre-fai-1-la-theorie/ http://blog.spyou.org/wordpress-mu/2010/06/10/comment-devenir-son-propre-fai-2-la-base/ http://blog.spyou.org/wordpress-mu/2010/06/15/comment-devenir-son-propre-fai-3-interconnexion/ http://blog.spyou.org/wordpress-mu/2010/08/02/comment-devenir-son-propre-fai-4-administratif/ http://blog.spyou.org/wordpress-mu/2010/08/09/comment-devenir-son-propre-fai-5-le-tres-haut-debit/ http://blog.spyou.org/wordpress-mu/2010/08/14/comment-devenir-son-propre-fai-6-cas-pratique/ http://blog.spyou.org/wordpress-mu/2010/08/17/comment-devenir-son-propre-fai-7-securite/ http://blog.spyou.org/wordpress-mu/2010/08/17/comment-devenir-son-propre-fai-8-services/ http://blog.spyou.org/wordpress-mu/2010/08/19/comment-devenir-son-propre-fai-9-cas-concret/ Some informations are france-specific (in regards of law, etc...), but it can be useful. A lot of informations about ISP creation has been discussed lately, because FDN, a french association that is the oldest ISP still active in france, decided to create (with other associations) a federation to help the creation of new associative isps. You can see the FDN website (http://www.fdn.fr/) Le 21/09/2011 01:55, Don Gould a écrit : Hasserw, First I must apologise for not responding, I did see this message and did mean to attempt to help you out as I am currently working though this exact process in a very small proof of concept network with an even smaller budget. To address our question, a good starting point is a Cisco CCNA. If you review the list archive for the past month you will find a very interesting thread linking to guys who are running massive home networks just for their learning, that in turn will link you to detailed public CVs showing the sort of stuff that these guys are trained and training in. You also need some business training to understand how to structure the business aspects of your project. An MBA is a good qualification but there are many less high level courses you could look at as well. NA Nog is an operational list (with a lot of rant and fun stuff) and not really a business focused or educational list, so your initial query simply ran under the radar. D On 17/09/2011 6:10 a.m., hass...@hushmail.com wrote: No one replied with any useful information. I guess no one wants competition on this list? Pretty poor tactic. On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 21:55:01 -0400 hass...@hushmail.com wrote: I want to begin making my own ISP, mainly for high speed servers and such, but also branching out to residential customers. I'm going to be in Germany for the next school year (probably either Frankfurt am Main or Berlin); any suggestions on what sort of classes I can take there that will be in English and will teach me all I need to know on how to build and manage my own ISP, AS, etc? Thanks.
Re: How to begin making my own ISP?
Hello, I don't know if that was directed at me or the OP, but very interesting stuff thanks. No I don't read French, but google does. :) D On 21/09/2011 8:36 p.m., Julien Gormotte wrote: Hello, If you are able to read french, there are useful informations : the fai-locaux mailing list archives : https://lists.fdn.fr/wws A series of posts on this blog : http://blog.spyou.org/wordpress-mu/2010/06/09/comment-devenir-son-propre-fai-1-la-theorie/ http://blog.spyou.org/wordpress-mu/2010/06/10/comment-devenir-son-propre-fai-2-la-base/ http://blog.spyou.org/wordpress-mu/2010/06/15/comment-devenir-son-propre-fai-3-interconnexion/ http://blog.spyou.org/wordpress-mu/2010/08/02/comment-devenir-son-propre-fai-4-administratif/ http://blog.spyou.org/wordpress-mu/2010/08/09/comment-devenir-son-propre-fai-5-le-tres-haut-debit/ http://blog.spyou.org/wordpress-mu/2010/08/14/comment-devenir-son-propre-fai-6-cas-pratique/ http://blog.spyou.org/wordpress-mu/2010/08/17/comment-devenir-son-propre-fai-7-securite/ http://blog.spyou.org/wordpress-mu/2010/08/17/comment-devenir-son-propre-fai-8-services/ http://blog.spyou.org/wordpress-mu/2010/08/19/comment-devenir-son-propre-fai-9-cas-concret/ Some informations are france-specific (in regards of law, etc...), but it can be useful. A lot of informations about ISP creation has been discussed lately, because FDN, a french association that is the oldest ISP still active in france, decided to create (with other associations) a federation to help the creation of new associative isps. You can see the FDN website (http://www.fdn.fr/) Le 21/09/2011 01:55, Don Gould a écrit : Hasserw, First I must apologise for not responding, I did see this message and did mean to attempt to help you out as I am currently working though this exact process in a very small proof of concept network with an even smaller budget. To address our question, a good starting point is a Cisco CCNA. If you review the list archive for the past month you will find a very interesting thread linking to guys who are running massive home networks just for their learning, that in turn will link you to detailed public CVs showing the sort of stuff that these guys are trained and training in. You also need some business training to understand how to structure the business aspects of your project. An MBA is a good qualification but there are many less high level courses you could look at as well. NA Nog is an operational list (with a lot of rant and fun stuff) and not really a business focused or educational list, so your initial query simply ran under the radar. D On 17/09/2011 6:10 a.m., hass...@hushmail.com wrote: No one replied with any useful information. I guess no one wants competition on this list? Pretty poor tactic. On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 21:55:01 -0400 hass...@hushmail.com wrote: I want to begin making my own ISP, mainly for high speed servers and such, but also branching out to residential customers. I'm going to be in Germany for the next school year (probably either Frankfurt am Main or Berlin); any suggestions on what sort of classes I can take there that will be in English and will teach me all I need to know on how to build and manage my own ISP, AS, etc? Thanks. -- Don Gould 31 Acheson Ave Mairehau Christchurch, New Zealand Ph: + 64 3 348 7235 Mobile: + 64 21 114 0699
Re: How to begin making my own ISP?
Hasserw, First I must apologise for not responding, I did see this message and did mean to attempt to help you out as I am currently working though this exact process in a very small proof of concept network with an even smaller budget. To address our question, a good starting point is a Cisco CCNA. If you review the list archive for the past month you will find a very interesting thread linking to guys who are running massive home networks just for their learning, that in turn will link you to detailed public CVs showing the sort of stuff that these guys are trained and training in. You also need some business training to understand how to structure the business aspects of your project. An MBA is a good qualification but there are many less high level courses you could look at as well. NA Nog is an operational list (with a lot of rant and fun stuff) and not really a business focused or educational list, so your initial query simply ran under the radar. D On 17/09/2011 6:10 a.m., hass...@hushmail.com wrote: No one replied with any useful information. I guess no one wants competition on this list? Pretty poor tactic. On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 21:55:01 -0400 hass...@hushmail.com wrote: I want to begin making my own ISP, mainly for high speed servers and such, but also branching out to residential customers. I'm going to be in Germany for the next school year (probably either Frankfurt am Main or Berlin); any suggestions on what sort of classes I can take there that will be in English and will teach me all I need to know on how to build and manage my own ISP, AS, etc? Thanks. -- Don Gould 31 Acheson Ave Mairehau Christchurch, New Zealand Ph: + 64 3 348 7235 Mobile: + 64 21 114 0699
Re: How to begin making my own ISP?
On Sep 16, 2011, at 2:53 PM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: On Fri, 16 Sep 2011 18:42:18 -, bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com said: Configure Quagga w/ the obtained ASN and announce the IP prefix(es). TaDa ... You are an ISP! Now all you need is a business plan that pays for the rack space. ;) http://www.monkeybagel.com/consult.html I'd also recommend reading the Systems Hardware Integration Tasks linked to from: http://www.monkeybagel.com/process.html W
Re: How to begin making my own ISP?
On 9/16/2011 11:14 AM, Eric Wieling wrote: I think the question was far too vague. The first thing you need to start an ISP is LOTS OF MONEY. That's if you want to make a little money running an ISP. If you want to make lots of money running an ISP, it takes *even more* money. Matthew Kaufman
RE: How to begin making my own ISP?
I think the question was far too vague. The first thing you need to start an ISP is LOTS OF MONEY. -Original Message- From: hass...@hushmail.com [mailto:hass...@hushmail.com] Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 2:10 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: How to begin making my own ISP? No one replied with any useful information. I guess no one wants competition on this list? Pretty poor tactic. On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 21:55:01 -0400 hass...@hushmail.com wrote: I want to begin making my own ISP, mainly for high speed servers and such, but also branching out to residential customers. I'm going to be in Germany for the next school year (probably either Frankfurt am Main or Berlin); any suggestions on what sort of classes I can take there that will be in English and will teach me all I need to know on how to build and manage my own ISP, AS, etc? Thanks.
RE: How to begin making my own ISP?
The second thing is that you need to have at least a VAGUE idea what you want to actually offer. A DSL ISP is VASTLY different than a Co-Location ISP. I'd say you need to sit down and take a long hard look at exactly you want to do, *then* figure out what you need to do in order to accomplish it. Ken Matlock Network Analyst Exempla Healthcare (303) 467-4671 matlo...@exempla.org -Original Message- From: Eric Wieling [mailto:ewiel...@nyigc.com] Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 12:14 PM To: hass...@hushmail.com; nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: How to begin making my own ISP? I think the question was far too vague. The first thing you need to start an ISP is LOTS OF MONEY. -Original Message- From: hass...@hushmail.com [mailto:hass...@hushmail.com] Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 2:10 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: How to begin making my own ISP? No one replied with any useful information. I guess no one wants competition on this list? Pretty poor tactic. On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 21:55:01 -0400 hass...@hushmail.com wrote: I want to begin making my own ISP, mainly for high speed servers and such, but also branching out to residential customers. I'm going to be in Germany for the next school year (probably either Frankfurt am Main or Berlin); any suggestions on what sort of classes I can take there that will be in English and will teach me all I need to know on how to build and manage my own ISP, AS, etc? Thanks. *** Exempla Confidentiality Notice *** The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any other dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify me immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Thank you. *** Exempla Confidentiality Notice ***
Re: How to begin making my own ISP?
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 02:10:29PM -0400, hass...@hushmail.com wrote: No one replied with any useful information. I guess no one wants competition on this list? Pretty poor tactic. On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 21:55:01 -0400 hass...@hushmail.com wrote: I want to begin making my own ISP, mainly for high speed servers and such, but also branching out to residential customers. I'm going to be in Germany for the next school year (probably either Frankfurt am Main or Berlin); any suggestions on what sort of classes I can take there that will be in English and will teach me all I need to know on how to build and manage my own ISP, AS, etc? Thanks. It's not safe to ass-u-me that absence of a reply is due to a desire to avoid competition. I strongly suspect that the answer to your question is very large, very complex, highly dependent on your location, business plan, connectivity, and the like, and that people simply don't have the free time to devote to tutoring you in how to build and run your startup. I know I don't. -- Mike Andrews, W5EGO mi...@mikea.ath.cx Tired old sysadmin
Re: How to begin making my own ISP?
Based on this email, I would suggest Marketing/PR classes ;) Accounting? On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 2:10 PM, hass...@hushmail.com wrote: No one replied with any useful information. I guess no one wants competition on this list? Pretty poor tactic. On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 21:55:01 -0400 hass...@hushmail.com wrote: I want to begin making my own ISP, mainly for high speed servers and such, but also branching out to residential customers. I'm going to be in Germany for the next school year (probably either Frankfurt am Main or Berlin); any suggestions on what sort of classes I can take there that will be in English and will teach me all I need to know on how to build and manage my own ISP, AS, etc? Thanks.
Re: How to begin making my own ISP?
On Fri, 16 Sep 2011, mikea wrote: On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 02:10:29PM -0400, hass...@hushmail.com wrote: No one replied with any useful information. I guess no one wants competition on this list? Pretty poor tactic. It's not safe to ass-u-me that absence of a reply is due to a desire to avoid competition. I strongly suspect that the answer to your question is very large, very complex, highly dependent on your location, business plan, connectivity, and the like, and that people simply don't have the free time to devote to tutoring you in how to build and run your startup. I know I don't. Furthermore, it's a truly poor assumption that the larger portion of starting one's own ISP is a purely technical exercise. I'd say the financial, political, and marketing aspects are far more daunting than the nuts-n-bolts side of things. However, if you really want to get advice about the tech side of it, I'd consider looking for an internship with an ISP. Of course, another possible mistake was to assume that the majority of NANOG members work for ISPs (as such). Other entities operate networks, y'know. Jima
Re: How to begin making my own ISP?
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 02:10:29PM -0400, hass...@hushmail.com wrote: No one replied with any useful information. I guess no one wants competition on this list? Pretty poor tactic. On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 21:55:01 -0400 hass...@hushmail.com wrote: I want to begin making my own ISP, mainly for high speed servers and such, but also branching out to residential customers. I'm going to be in Germany for the next school year (probably either Frankfurt am Main or Berlin); any suggestions on what sort of classes I can take there that will be in English and will teach me all I need to know on how to build and manage my own ISP, AS, etc? Thanks. ... First, You make a roux! - Julia Childs Clearly its not a easy/simple as it used to be but its not rocket science either. you have to decide where you want to start; eyeballs, content, or get others to defray the cost of yur access. Once you select which target you are after, then you can pick your gear. I am going to presume OSS and fully depricated kit to keep your costs down and to boost your learning skills. On the presumption you want to run BGP I suggest you invest in some colo space at/near a public internet exchange w/ a large number of players.. SIX was good, Telx was good, and the SD pops were as well - at least four/five years ago. slip you old HP laptop into the rack and buy a cross connect to the exchange fabric. replace the OS on the laptop w/ FreeBSD or CentOS, from ports, add SSH and Quagga. Chat up potential peers at the exchange and see whom will peer w/ you using a Private ASN. Contact ARIN or third party broker to lease some IP space and an ASN. If you can't find/justify the resources 'cause your just starting out, there is private space and private ASN. Configure Quagga w/ the obtained ASN and announce the IP prefix(es). TaDa ... You are an ISP! /bill
Re: How to begin making my own ISP?
On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 21:55:01PM -0400, hass...@hushmail.com wrote: I want to begin making my own ISP, mainly for high speed servers and such, but also branching out to residential customers. I'm going to be in Germany for the next school year (probably either Frankfurt am Main or Berlin); any suggestions on what sort of classes I can take there that will be in English and will teach me all I need to know on how to build and manage my own ISP, AS, etc? Whatever you do, I think you should avoid sending spam when soliciting your services, like this one: Received: from mail.brighttelecom.net(96.125.175.69), claiming to be voiceanddata.brighttelecom.net via SMTP by NGW.AegisInfoSys.com, id smtpdQ7Nl4c; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 14:29:01 -0400 Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 18:28:53 GMT From: br...@brighttelecom.net (Bright Telecom) -- Henry Yen Aegis Information Systems, Inc. Senior Systems Programmer Hicksville, New York
Re: How to begin making my own ISP?
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 02:10:29PM -0400, hass...@hushmail.com wrote: No one replied with any useful information. I guess no one wants competition on this list? Pretty poor tactic. On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 21:55:01 -0400 hass...@hushmail.com wrote: I want to begin making my own ISP, mainly for high speed servers and such, but also branching out to residential customers. I'm going to be in Germany for the next school year (probably either Frankfurt am Main or Berlin); any suggestions on what sort of classes I can take there that will be in English and will teach me all I need to know on how to build and manage my own ISP, AS, etc? Thanks. What they said. However - this is the NANOG list, not the EOF. If you are going to play in the EU space, you should ask there. Also - if you are just playing w/ nuts/bolts - a valuable resource is the NSRC site. They do excellent work in helping the technology challanged understand and deploy communications systems. http://www.nsrc.org/ you might also want to talk to the DENIC folks and likely RIPE NCC. http://www.ripe.net http://ww.denic.de Good Luck, you wet-behind-the-ears whippersnapper. /bill
Re: How to begin making my own ISP?
On Fri, 16 Sep 2011 18:42:18 -, bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com said: Configure Quagga w/ the obtained ASN and announce the IP prefix(es). TaDa ... You are an ISP! Now all you need is a business plan that pays for the rack space. ;) pgpKBjfFJNMbn.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: How to begin making my own ISP?
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 02:53:03PM -0400, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: On Fri, 16 Sep 2011 18:42:18 -, bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com said: Configure Quagga w/ the obtained ASN and announce the IP prefix(es). TaDa ... You are an ISP! Now all you need is a business plan that pays for the rack space. ;) and the Internet Numbering resource fees, the cross connects, power, spares, ... and if you tak in money, insurance, taxes, accounting, sys-admin costs (unless this is best-effort service that yu can fire forget or your paying clients don't care when you are down for three weeks - looking for replacement kit and the time to configure it -after- your homework is done...) But this song isnt about Alice... /bill
Re: How to begin making my own ISP?
On Fri, 16 Sep 2011 16:02:39 -0400 Markus unive...@truemetal.org wrote: Wait a sec :) So the info I sent you about RIPE and Germany wasn't useful to you at all? :( I didn't receive any such email, sorry. Try resending it if you still have it ? @ Everyone else: thank you for the useful information. I didn't mean to come off as being bratty with my competition notation, it was meant as a bump to the posting and not an insult at anyone. More info: yes, I was planning on having some co-lo sort of stuff, maybe running a dedicated server provider. However on my own IP space, and a good method of getting bandwidth of cheap. Stuff like paying 5€/GB makes me feel sick.
Re: How to begin making my own ISP?
On 09/16/2011 04:28 PM, hass...@hushmail.com wrote: On Fri, 16 Sep 2011 16:02:39 -0400 Markus unive...@truemetal.org wrote: I didn't receive any such email, sorry. Try resending it if you still have it ? Maybe hushmail blocked it? :) @ Everyone else: thank you for the useful information. I didn't mean to come off as being bratty with my competition notation, it was meant as a bump to the posting and not an insult at anyone. Thanks for clarifying. More info: yes, I was planning on having some co-lo sort of stuff, maybe running a dedicated server provider. However on my own IP space, and a good method of getting bandwidth of cheap. Stuff like paying 5€/GB makes me feel sick. H. Me thinks that's a no go. You are entering an incredibly stiff competitive space. If you do have some magic pixie dust, I would sell it to the highest bidder. :) (I do believe people were seeking pixie dust in the 444 thread if I recall correctly). Not to be snide, but what makes you think you have something that will let you break into the colo market against a huge assortment of players? (ref the lots and lots and lots of money response). You'll need some hefty capital to attract customers. Plus if you can only compete on price, the established players will just cut costs to match you. That's all my opinion of course. -- Charles N Wyble char...@knownelement.com @charlesnw on twitter http://blog.knownelement.com Building alternative,global scale,secure, cost effective bit moving platform for tomorrows alternate default free zone.
Re: How to begin making my own ISP?
hass...@hushmail.com wrote: On Fri, 16 Sep 2011 16:02:39 -0400 Markus unive...@truemetal.org wrote: Wait a sec :) So the info I sent you about RIPE and Germany wasn't useful to you at all? :( I didn't receive any such email, sorry. Try resending it if you still have it ? @ Everyone else: thank you for the useful information. I didn't mean to come off as being bratty with my competition notation, it was meant as a bump to the posting and not an insult at anyone. More info: yes, I was planning on having some co-lo sort of stuff, maybe running a dedicated server provider. However on my own IP space, and a good method of getting bandwidth of cheap. Stuff like paying 5€/GB makes me feel sick. Oldie but goodie: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0471314994/ref=olp_product_details?ie=UTF8me=seller=
Re: How to begin making my own ISP?
On Fri, 16 Sep 2011, hass...@hushmail.com wrote: No one replied with any useful information. I guess no one wants competition on this list? Pretty poor tactic. Honestly, I did have an insightful email drafted up for your original post, but the more I thought about it, the more I felt like I was getting troll-baited. I do see posts on this list from time to time, and on other related lists, from people who appear to be pretty new to the game, and that's perfectly OK. I will not bash a newbie for being a newbie, because we were all newbies at one point or another. However, expecting other people to do all the work and give you all of the answers, and then criticizing the group when they didn't do that, based on a very vague definition of a requirement is just bad form. Since you mentioned school years in your original post, I'm going to assume that you're also pretty young. Just remember - mailing list archives are forever ;) jms On Sat, 10 Sep 2011 21:55:01 -0400 hass...@hushmail.com wrote: I want to begin making my own ISP, mainly for high speed servers and such, but also branching out to residential customers. I'm going to be in Germany for the next school year (probably either Frankfurt am Main or Berlin); any suggestions on what sort of classes I can take there that will be in English and will teach me all I need to know on how to build and manage my own ISP, AS, etc? Thanks.
Re: How to begin making my own ISP?
On 9/16/2011 2:43 PM, Michael Painter wrote: hass...@hushmail.com wrote: @ Everyone else: thank you for the useful information. I didn't mean to come off as being bratty with my competition notation, it was meant as a bump to the posting and not an insult at anyone. Oldie but goodie: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0471314994/ref=olp_product_details?ie=UTF8me=seller= Whoa. How strange. I actually *own* that book...but then, I'm old, and crotchety, and know what ISIS is (yes, I love saying that). That said, one oh-so-brief word of advice to Mr Hushmail, and it's accurate, from YEARS of experience, and will hopefully be taken seriously. First step, before you follow any of the others, is to make a business model. Second is to find a venture capitalist group, and convince them that you have your ducks in a row, and plan to make them (and yourself) rich. Otherwise, don't give up your day job. Not being remotely cruel, here (and I could be, and I'm good at it). If you aren't spending someone else's money, you need to have plenty of your own, and I'd bet you don't. I suspect you would be shocked at the amount of money a startup similar to what you're proposing would take. Here's a clue; the number will have at least 7 digits (US Dollars). It's always about money. So it goes. -- Democratic nations must try to find ways to starve the terrorist and the hijacker of the oxygen of publicity on which they depend. Margaret Thatcher
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On 17/09/11 7:34 AM, Charles N Wyble wrote: On 09/16/2011 04:28 PM, hass...@hushmail.com wrote: On Fri, 16 Sep 2011 16:02:39 -0400 Markus unive...@truemetal.org wrote: I didn't receive any such email, sorry. Try resending it if you still have it ? Maybe hushmail blocked it? :) That's not outside the realms of possibility, especially if the sender was using OpenPGP. Hushmail does many odd things with its implementation (e.g. still no support for PGP/MIME or even SHA-2). Regards, Ben signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: How to begin making my own ISP?
When we needed an ISP in Yakima back in '95 we found a rich guy in Seattle, got him to hire an old SunOS geek and an illegal Englishman, and a very small space on the 19th floor of the Westin. Then we talked him into putting his first POP in Yakima where he would have immediate paying customers. He was tired of using broken UUCP email for his trading company. That was our hook. That ISP founded what is now SIX, so not all was lost. j...@wolfe.net -- Joe Hamelin, W7COM, Tulalip, WA, 360-474-7474 On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 6:41 PM, Ben McGinnes b...@adversary.org wrote: On 17/09/11 7:34 AM, Charles N Wyble wrote: On 09/16/2011 04:28 PM, hass...@hushmail.com wrote: On Fri, 16 Sep 2011 16:02:39 -0400 Markus unive...@truemetal.org wrote: I didn't receive any such email, sorry. Try resending it if you still have it ? Maybe hushmail blocked it? :) That's not outside the realms of possibility, especially if the sender was using OpenPGP. Hushmail does many odd things with its implementation (e.g. still no support for PGP/MIME or even SHA-2). Regards, Ben
Re: How to begin making my own ISP?
On 09/10/2011 08:55 PM, hass...@hushmail.com wrote: I want to begin making my own ISP, mainly for high speed servers and such, but also branching out to residential customers. I'm going to be in Germany for the next school year (probably either Frankfurt am Main or Berlin); any suggestions on what sort of classes I can take there that will be in English and will teach me all I need to know on how to build and manage my own ISP, AS, etc? Thanks. I too am very interested in this topic. I'm in the process of putting a small service provider network together. Starting with three points of presence (Los Angeles, Kansas City, undetermined east coast location). I'm in the process of securing an AS, IP space etc. Already have all the necessary networking gear. Working on getting it configured and deployed. I'm a data center guy coming into the WAN world. Learning as I go. -- Charles N Wyble char...@knownelement.com @charlesnw on twitter http://blog.knownelement.com Building alternative,global scale,secure, cost effective bit moving platform for tomorrows alternate default free zone.
