For example when users from Sudan trying to access some web site they
will get a *Forbidden Access Error* message.
And some messages say: you are forbidden to access this web site
because your IP address appears form country black listed due to USA
government policy.
I would like to
On Jul 25, 2010, at 11:41 PM, Robert West wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Robert West [mailto:robert.w...@just-micro.com]
Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 10:56 PM
To: 'Tarig Yassin'
Subject: RE: Who controlls the Internet?
Each individual government seems to control the information
PM, Marshall Eubanks t...@americafree.tv wrote:
On Jul 25, 2010, at 11:41 PM, Robert West wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Robert West [mailto:robert.w...@just-micro.com]
Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 10:56 PM
To: 'Tarig Yassin'
Subject: RE: Who controlls the Internet?
Each
On Jul 25, 2010, at 1:24 PM, Tarig Yassin wrote:
Deal all
I want to show you some obstacles that some countries face them
every day.
For example when users from Sudan trying to access some web site
they will get a *Forbidden Access Error* message.
And some messages say: you are
Bill,
On Jul 25, 2010, at 10:21 PM, bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com wrote:
except ICANN has presumed for itself an operational role.
ICANN, since its inception, has been the IANA functions _operator_. It
inherited the role IANA staff performed prior to ICANN's creation. As far as I
am
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 10:57:26AM +0200, David Conrad wrote:
Bill,
On Jul 25, 2010, at 10:21 PM, bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com wrote:
except ICANN has presumed for itself an operational role.
ICANN, since its inception, has been the IANA functions _operator_. It
inherited the role
On 7/25/10 8:24 PM, Tarig Yassin wrote:
I would like to issue a question here, who controls this Internet?
Vix does, who else?
:)
Gadi.
- Original Message -
From: Tarig Yassin tariq198...@hotmail.com
I would like to issue a question here, who controls this Internet?
The elders of the Internet:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDbyYGrswtg
Bill,
I suspect this thread has degenerated to the point of irrelevance, so this will
be my last comment. Feel free to have the last word.
On Jul 26, 2010, at 2:30 AM, bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com wrote:
yes, ICANN is the current IANA functions _operator_. The IANA _never_
On Jul 25, 2010, at 11:41 PM, Robert West wrote:
Each individual government seems to control the information the enters or
leaves their borders.
No, each individual government can have laws restricting information entering
and leaving their borders.
Few gov'ts actually control said info.
And why not the ICCAN take this reponsibity as an International organization
not USA government?
From: tariq198...@hotmail.com
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Who controlls the Internet?
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 20:24:27 +0300
Deal all
I want to show you some obstacles that some
In all honesty control over the Internet doesn't sound like the issue
here. The US Government regulates entities functioning with in it's
boarders. This would be no different if I being in the US were
restricted access to a site in any other country due to their
regulations.
On Sun, 25 Jul 2010, Tarig Yassin wrote:
I want to show you some obstacles that some countries face them every day.
For example when users from Sudan trying to access some web site they
will get a *Forbidden Access Error* message.
And some messages say: you are forbidden to access this web
On Sun, 25 Jul 2010, Tarig Yassin wrote:
And why not the ICCAN take this reponsibity as an International
organization not USA government?
ICANN has no authority to tell sovereign nations how to run their IP
connectivity.
jms
From: tariq198...@hotmail.com
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Who
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 08:24:27PM +0300,
Tarig Yassin tariq198...@hotmail.com wrote
a message of 27 lines which said:
For example when users from Sudan trying to access some web site
they will get a *Forbidden Access Error* message.
And some messages say: you are forbidden to access this
On Jul 25, 2010, at 13:24, Tarig Yassin tariq198...@hotmail.com wrote:
I want to show you some obstacles that some countries face them every day.
For example when users from Sudan trying to access some web site they will
get a *Forbidden Access Error* message.
And some messages say: you
From: patr...@ianai.net
Subject: Re: Who controlls the Internet?
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 13:55:56 -0400
To: nanog@nanog.org
On Jul 25, 2010, at 13:24, Tarig Yassin tariq198...@hotmail.com wrote:
I want to show you some obstacles that some countries face them every day
I would like to issue a question here, who controls this Internet?
The global abstract Internet ? nobody.
Your government/service provider and/or the government/service
provider of the destination you are trying to reach may
restrict/block/redirect/tweak/tamper/sniff/shape the free flow of
On 7/25/10 11:05 AM, Tarig Yassin wrote:
probabaly every web server in USA e.g. Google, Verisign and sourceforge.
Hah, no.
~Seth
On Jul 25, 2010, at 7:24 PM, Tarig Yassin wrote:
Deal all
I want to show you some obstacles that some countries face them every day.
For example when users from Sudan trying to access some web site they will
get a *Forbidden Access Error* message.
And some messages say: you are
On Jul 25, 2010, at 8:05 PM, Tarig Yassin wrote:
probabaly every web server in USA e.g. Google, Verisign and sourceforge.
ALL companies that operate in the US are bound by law to abide by restrictions
that are defined at http://www.ustreas.gov/offices/enforcement/ofac/ and
elsewhere. Failure
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 6:24 PM, Tarig Yassin tariq198...@hotmail.com wrote:
I would like to issue a question here, who controls this Internet?
The truth to your question is, anybody who wants to. Hackers, activists,
governments, terrorists all have the ability to control it. But probably not
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 08:24:27PM +0300, Tarig Yassin wrote:
Deal all
I want to show you some obstacles that some countries face them every day.
For example when users from Sudan trying to access some web site they will
get a *Forbidden Access Error* message.
And some
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 01:21:46PM -0500, Jorge Amodio wrote:
PS. ICANN has no responsibility or operational role denying access or
services.
Regards
except ICANN has presumed for itself an operational role.
it has taken on root server operations for some years now
On 25 July 2010 21:05, Tarig Yassin tariq198...@hotmail.com wrote:
probabaly every web server in USA e.g. Google, Verisign and sourceforge.
In this case you will most likely discover that these are blocked by the
service provider at your end and not by Google et al.
What if a large
The local laws/regulations take precedence in each country and they must
abide to what's been set. This however isnt a concern to many since not many
countries impose such strict restrictions.
I thought most countries had trade and export restrictions of one sort or
another?
Best Regards,
Hi Tarig
This is a bit like asking who controls friendship. Of course nobody does.
However if certain friends of yours are going to impose conditions on you,
you have to go along with it or find new friends.
One way round it is to use other friends as interlocutors, simply by using
proxy
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 12:58:01PM -0700, andrew.wallace wrote:
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 6:24 PM, Tarig Yassin tariq198...@hotmail.com wrote:
I would like to issue a question here, who controls this Internet?
The truth to your question is, anybody who wants to. Hackers, activists,
25, 2010 7:12 PM
To: Tarig Yassin
Cc: nanog
Subject: Re: Who controlls the Internet?
Hi Tarig
This is a bit like asking who controls friendship. Of course nobody does.
However if certain friends of yours are going to impose conditions on you,
you have to go along with it or find new friends.
One
PS. ICANN has no responsibility or operational role denying access or
services.
Regards
except ICANN has presumed for itself an operational role.
it has taken on root server operations for some years now
and is trying to take over root zone editorial control.
Sure,
From: Tarig Yassin tariq198...@hotmail.com
To: nanog nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Who controlls the Internet?
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 20:24:27 +0300
Deal all
I want to show you some obstacles that some countries face them every day.
For example when users from Sudan trying to access some
I'm moving all operations to Sealand
Bob-
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From: Robert Bonomi [mailto:bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com]
Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 11:16 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Who controlls the Internet?
From: Tarig Yassin tariq198...@hotmail.com
To: nanog
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