RE: cheap MPLS router recommendations

2020-10-27 Thread adamv0025
> Eric Kuhnke > Sent: Monday, October 26, 2020 6:52 PM > > If we're talking about whitebox router and ipifusion, what we're really > talking > about is vyatta/vyOS and the linux foundation DANOS stuff on an ordinary x86- > 64 server that has a weird shape. > > https://www.ipinfusion.com/commerci

Re: cheap MPLS router recommendations

2020-10-27 Thread Patrick Cole
I’d pick the Mikrotik >every time. > > > > > > > >From: NANOG On Behalf Of >adamv0...@netconsultings.com >Sent: Thursday, 22 October 2020 9:28 am >To: 'Colton Conor' ; t...@pelican.org >Cc: 'NANOG'

RE: cheap MPLS router recommendations

2020-10-26 Thread Philip Loenneker
and is still an issue in 2020: https://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?t=73820 Regards, Philip From: NANOG On Behalf Of Tony Wicks Sent: Thursday, 22 October 2020 8:19 AM To: adamv0...@netconsultings.com Cc: 'NANOG' Subject: RE: cheap MPLS router recommendations Right, well in

Re: cheap MPLS router recommendations

2020-10-26 Thread Robert Bays
> On Oct 26, 2020, at 11:51 AM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > > If we're talking about whitebox router and ipifusion, what we're really > talking about is vyatta/vyOS and the linux foundation DANOS stuff on an > ordinary x86-64 server that has a weird shape. > Maybe tangential, but to be clear, VyOS

Re: cheap MPLS router recommendations

2020-10-26 Thread Eric Kuhnke
white-box HW along > with the support for the whole thing? > > > > > > adam > > > > *From:* NANOG *On > Behalf Of *Colton Conor > *Sent:* Monday, October 19, 2020 4:51 PM > *To:* t...@pelican.org > *Cc:* NANOG > *Subject:* Re: cheap MPLS router reco

Re: cheap MPLS router recommendations

2020-10-22 Thread Baldur Norddahl
there more folks out there bundling open NOS and white-box HW along >>> with the support for the whole thing? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> adam >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* NANOG *On >>> Behalf Of *Colt

Re: cheap MPLS router recommendations

2020-10-21 Thread Brandon Martin
On 10/21/20 4:27 PM, adamv0...@netconsultings.com wrote: Just to clarify what cheap means, ideally  -$2000 to $4000 new -new is preferred as buying used kit on second hand market one is at the mercy of the price fluctuations and availability. Do you want SFP or BASE-T on the 1Gb ports? -- B

RE: cheap MPLS router recommendations

2020-10-21 Thread Tony Wicks
am To: 'Colton Conor' ; t...@pelican.org Cc: 'NANOG' Subject: RE: cheap MPLS router recommendations Just to clarify what cheap means, ideally -$2000 to $4000 new -new is preferred as buying used kit on second hand market one is at the mercy of the price fluctuations and a

Re: cheap MPLS router recommendations

2020-10-21 Thread Colton Conor
age (and the datasheet can’t be downloaded… >> ) >> >> >> >> Are there more folks out there bundling open NOS and white-box HW along >> with the support for the whole thing? >> >> >> >> >> >> adam >> >> >>

Re: cheap MPLS router recommendations

2020-10-21 Thread Colton Conor
> > > > adam > > > > *From:* NANOG *On > Behalf Of *Colton Conor > *Sent:* Monday, October 19, 2020 4:51 PM > *To:* t...@pelican.org > *Cc:* NANOG > *Subject:* Re: cheap MPLS router recommendations > > > > I haven't tried one myself, but Dasan

RE: cheap MPLS router recommendations

2020-10-21 Thread adamv0025
: cheap MPLS router recommendations I haven't tried one myself, but Dasan Zhone has the M2400 and M3000. Basically, a whitebox with IP Infusion code on it. New, I think the price point is sub $2000 to $4000 new. That's a ton of ports for that price point. Anyone tried these y

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2020-10-19 Thread Brielle
DO NOT EDIT BELOW THIS LINE Assigned to: BuyGoods Support Anyone know what the hell this "BuyGoods" crap is on some of the NANOG messages? On 10/19/2020 9:55 AM, Colton Conor wrote: > BuyGoods > BuyGoods Logo > > > BuyG

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2020-10-19 Thread Brielle
ternative; boundary=2991e1a3618a6aebecb08629cf3d6dad39a77000acb468a173519b31600c Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2020 16:10:59 + (UTC) From: Brielle Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: cheap MPLS router recommendations [ID #5475871x3] X-SG-EID: =?us-ascii?Q?O1XouBPEC9l7AS2MyTPb+8ds0gLJjnsCs0SUvuXeG20R

Re: cheap MPLS router recommendations [ID #5475871x3]

2020-10-19 Thread Brielle
Anyone know what the hell this "BuyGoods" crap is on some of the NANOG messages? On 10/19/2020 9:55 AM, Colton Conor wrote: BuyGoods BuyGoods Logo BuyGoods Support *Colton Conor* started this conversation Monday, October 19th, 2020, 11:55am EDT -- Brielle Bru

Re: cheap MPLS router recommendations

2020-10-19 Thread Colton Conor
I haven't tried one myself, but Dasan Zhone has the M2400 and M3000. Basically, a whitebox with IP Infusion code on it. New, I think the price point is sub $2000 to $4000 new. That's a ton of ports for that price point. Anyone tried these yet? https://dzsi.com/product-category/mobile-xhaul/ On Mo

RE: cheap MPLS router recommendations

2020-10-19 Thread t...@pelican.org
On Saturday, 17 October, 2020 00:41, "Tony Wicks" said: > Well, there is always the MX104 (if you want redundancy) or MX80 if you > don’t. That will give you 80gig wire speed just don’t load it up with > more than one full table. Bear in mind that the MX80 is now in the EoL process, you have <4

RE: cheap MPLS router recommendations

2020-10-17 Thread aaron1
I’m using a pair of MX104’s for 10 gig and a MS-MIC-16G for CGNat integrated with L3VPN’s (LDP for label distro), just fine. About 5,000 DSL broadband customer behind them, on a /24 public ip nat pool. Some nice IP savings there. Can’t speak to your BFP, RSVP-TE requirement as I never neede

Re: cheap MPLS router recommendations

2020-10-17 Thread David Kotlerewsky
MX150? From: NANOG on behalf of Date: Friday, October 16, 2020 at 2:59 PM To: 'Tony Wicks' Cc: Subject: RE: cheap MPLS router recommendations For this particular gig even the MX204 would be overkill in terms of price as well as performance. Ideally something like 204 but

Re: cheap MPLS router recommendations

2020-10-17 Thread Jakub Horn (jakuhorn) via NANOG
If cisco, I wouldn’t consider 920… I think NCS540 is better option. XR based, feature rich and here are different models supporting different BW, different port density… I think price/performance ratio is superb! For better evaluation you should be more specific about scale, precise about requi

Re: cheap MPLS router recommendations

2020-10-16 Thread Ryan Hamel
don’t load it up with more > than one full table. > > > From: adamv0...@netconsultings.com > Sent: Saturday, 17 October 2020 10:57 am > To: 'Tony Wicks' > Cc: nanog@nanog.org > Subject: RE: cheap MPLS router recommendations > > > > > > For this p

RE: cheap MPLS router recommendations

2020-10-16 Thread Tony Wicks
rg Subject: RE: cheap MPLS router recommendations For this particular gig even the MX204 would be overkill in terms of price as well as performance. Ideally something like 204 but with only those 8 10/1G ports (i.e. without the 4x100G ports) adam From: Tony Wicks mailto:t...@wicks.co.n

Re: cheap MPLS router recommendations

2020-10-16 Thread Brandon Martin
Most Arista boxes can do pretty much full MPLS (with appropriate honor-system licensing) as long as you don't need full-table Internet PE capabilities. At those bandwidths, you could easily get a used box off eBay and put it back under support (for more than you paid for the box) if you wanted

Re: cheap MPLS router recommendations

2020-10-16 Thread Baldur Norddahl
.com > *Cc:* nanog@nanog.org > *Subject:* RE: cheap MPLS router recommendations > > > > Juniper MX204, easy > > > > *From:* NANOG *On Behalf Of * > adamv0...@netconsultings.com > *Sent:* Saturday, 17 October 2020 10:31 am > *To:* 'Jakub Horn (jakuhorn)

RE: cheap MPLS router recommendations

2020-10-16 Thread adamv0025
Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: cheap MPLS router recommendations Juniper MX204, easy From: NANOG mailto:nanog-bounces+tony=wicks.co...@nanog.org> > On Behalf Of adamv0...@netconsultings.com <mailto:adamv0...@netconsultings.com> Sent: Saturday, 17 October 2020 10:31 am To:

RE: cheap MPLS router recommendations

2020-10-16 Thread Tony Wicks
Juniper MX204, easy From: NANOG On Behalf Of adamv0...@netconsultings.com Sent: Saturday, 17 October 2020 10:31 am To: 'Jakub Horn (jakuhorn)' ; nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: cheap MPLS router recommendations Yeah the XR thing would be great but NCS540 would be too expensive an

RE: cheap MPLS router recommendations

2020-10-16 Thread adamv0025
Yeah the XR thing would be great but NCS540 would be too expensive and too much throughput meaning draws too much power, adam From: Jakub Horn (jakuhorn) Sent: Friday, October 16, 2020 10:08 PM To: adamv0...@netconsultings.com; nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: cheap MPLS router