Re: p2p addresses for point-to-point connections with customers

2012-11-06 Thread Dobbins, Roland
On Nov 6, 2012, at 6:32 PM, Tassos Chatzithomaoglou wrote: Do you consider them infrastructure addresses or customer addresses? They're infrastructure addresses. Do you put them in your IGP or in BGP? You should treat them as you do your other infrastructure addresses (i.e., if you're

Re: p2p addresses for point-to-point connections with customers

2012-11-06 Thread Tassos Chatzithomaoglou
Having an iACL format like below, that means that i would have to add at least one extra permit entry before the spoofing entries. deny MARTIANS/BOGONS deny SPOOFING deny PROTOCOLS/PORTS permit BGP-PEERINGS permit TUNNELS deny INFRASTRUCTURE permit ANY If that's indeed the case, what

Re: p2p addresses for point-to-point connections with customers

2012-11-06 Thread Dobbins, Roland
On Nov 6, 2012, at 7:31 PM, Tassos Chatzithomaoglou wrote: Only specific types of icmp messages? That, plus the routing session (if any) with your customer, plus anything else that's situationally-specific (GRE tunnel termination, etc.).

Re: p2p addresses for point-to-point connections with customers

2012-11-06 Thread Tassos Chatzithomaoglou
Roland, how do you handle customer requests regarding the remote management of their devices? i.e. if the customer wants to do any kind of management (ssh, snmp) from outside his router, he must use our infrastructure address (which is configured on his router) as a destination. Generally, the

RE: p2p addresses for point-to-point connections with customers

2012-11-06 Thread Otis L. Surratt, Jr.
We generally perform all the management needed for our customer's circuits. If the customer is wanting to remotely manage their own router and etc then you should adjust your iACL to grant the customer access only on the IP on their router interface not the whole /30 or etc. Or if you've routed

RE: p2p addresses for point-to-point connections with customers

2012-11-06 Thread James Baker
Well if you’re null routing the /30 then you or them should have a /32 or larger for NAT or no RFC space behind it. -Original Message- From: Tassos Chatzithomaoglou [mailto:ach...@forthnetgroup.gr] Sent: Wednesday, 7 November 2012 2:45 a.m. To: Dobbins, Roland Cc: NANOG list Subject:

Re: p2p addresses for point-to-point connections with customers

2012-11-06 Thread Alastair Johnson
On 11/6/2012 5:44 AM, Tassos Chatzithomaoglou wrote: Roland, how do you handle customer requests regarding the remote management of their devices? i.e. if the customer wants to do any kind of management (ssh, snmp) from outside his router, he must use our infrastructure address (which is