On 4/14/21 7:00 AM, Brian Johnson wrote:
There is no profit motive for a non-profit company. It’s completely
relevant to your response.
This is patently absurd. It's an industry group/organization. It's
raison d'etre is to serve its industry which definitely has a profit
motive. That and
On 4/14/21 20:25, Stan Barber wrote:
I would say that under normal circumstances, 45 days might work
(Personally, I would prefer 90 days).
However, I suggest we are not dealing with a normal circumstance
because of the fall out from the winter incident.
Agreed.
Mark.
I would say that under normal circumstances, 45 days might work
(Personally, I would prefer 90 days).
However, I suggest we are not dealing with a normal circumstance because of
the fall out from the winter incident.
On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 11:35 AM Mark Tinka wrote:
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> On 4/14/21 18:03,
ay, April 14, 2021 10:32:25 AM
Subject: Re: Texas ERCOT power shortages (again) April 13
On 4/14/21 17:12, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
> Bringing it back to the topic on hand: How do we keep the grid up? Or
> plan for it not being up?
I think "planning for the grid not being up&quo
It appears that Stan Barber said:
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>I would suggest that the regulation paradigm in Texas does not allow
>coordinated maintenance scheduling to adapt to supply and load issues
>(especially in the face of a disaster like the Winter event earlier this
>year). That would mean a
On 4/14/21 18:31, Brian Johnson wrote:
Not going to get into this, but this is simply not true on multiple
fronts.
On a large scale, I agree that numbers can look odd. But on a smaller,
community scale, it does look good.
Mark.
On 4/14/21 18:07, Niels Bakker wrote:
The relevant virtue that's signaled with green energy is that its MWh
prices are WAY lower than traditional fossil fuel-based generators.
Particularly when you factor in close to no maintenance costs for things
like PV, and a nominal 1% drop in
On 4/14/21 18:03, Stan Barber wrote:
I would suggest that the regulation paradigm in Texas does not allow
coordinated maintenance scheduling to adapt to supply and load issues
(especially in the face of a disaster like the Winter event earlier
this year). That would mean a stronger
> On Apr 14, 2021, at 11:07 AM, Niels Bakker wrote:
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> * brian.john...@netgeek.us (Brian Johnson) [Wed 14 Apr 2021, 17:37 CEST]:
>> Not what I was saying. The demand for virtue-signaling green energy is not
>> an effective strategy to actually having power available.
>
> The relevant
* brian.john...@netgeek.us (Brian Johnson) [Wed 14 Apr 2021, 17:37 CEST]:
Not what I was saying. The demand for virtue-signaling green energy
is not an effective strategy to actually having power available.
The relevant virtue that's signaled with green energy is that its
MWh prices are WAY
I would suggest that the regulation paradigm in Texas does not allow
coordinated maintenance scheduling to adapt to supply and load issues
(especially in the face of a disaster like the Winter event earlier this
year). That would mean a stronger regulatory framework and that smacks of
government
Patrick - I hope that your determination of failure isn't dictated by the
federal government telling you so.
Again, green-energy solves none of these issues. In fact, it is likely less
green, and more expensive than the traditional solutions.
Much resect for you and I really appreciate your
On 4/14/21 17:35, Brian Johnson wrote:
I appreciate the nuances, but the need to imply that a profit motive
was the issue is not proven. This issue was NOT foreseeable except
with the perfect reverse 20/20 vision. It’s like saying that I
shouldn’t have built the house where the tornado
The issue was not only perfectly foreseeable, ERCOT has a ten year old document
explaining PRECISELY how to avoid such an occurrence happening.
Did you miss the second paragraph below?
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TTFN,
patrick
> On Apr 14, 2021, at 11:35 AM, Brian Johnson wrote:
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> Not what I was saying. The
Not what I was saying. The demand for virtue-signaling green energy is not an
effective strategy to actually having power available.
I appreciate the nuances, but the need to imply that a profit motive was the
issue is not proven. This issue was NOT foreseeable except with the perfect
reverse
On 4/14/21 17:12, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
Bringing it back to the topic on hand: How do we keep the grid up? Or
plan for it not being up?
I think "planning for the grid not being up" is more within our control
than the former :-).
Data centres serving base power load from solar PV,
Brian:
The idea that because ERCOT is a non-profit somehow means they would never do
anything to save money, or management is not granted bonuses or salary
increases based on savings, or have no financial incentive is ridiculous. E.g.
Salaries for the top ERCOT executives increased 50% from
There is no profit motive for a non-profit company. It’s completely relevant to
your response.
For profit companies have similar issues with power generation and maintenance
as the way power is generated requires maintenance. No power system is
generating at 100% of capability at any single
It appears that Mark Tinka said:
>On 4/14/21 13:35, Billy Croan wrote:
>> Sounds like we all need to start keeping a few days reserve of energy
>> on hand at home now because the utilities can't be trusted to keep
>> their system online in 2021.
If you're in Texas, yes, and for other reasons
On 4/14/21 15:34, Mike Bolitho wrote:
Can we keep this mailing list free of politics please? Being for or
against renewable energy has nothing to do with network operations.
Not necessarily as all those large data centres popping up in my
neighborhood means better Internet for me and my
On 4/14/21 15:04, Mike Hammett wrote:
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Even as I support renewable plants, I am not yet fully convinced that a
quick and massive decommissioning of fossil fuels for base load
generation is feasible.
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Nuclear is the only way to have a reliable base load generation that
doesn't release
Can we keep this mailing list free of politics please? Being for or against
renewable energy has nothing to do with network operations.
- Mike Bolitho
On Wed, Apr 14, 2021, 6:31 AM Izaac wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 06:54:55AM +0200, Mark Tinka wrote:
> > So looks like ERCOT have 32,000MW
On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 06:54:55AM +0200, Mark Tinka wrote:
> So looks like ERCOT have 32,000MW of capacity offline for maintenance and
> repairs, which they claim is not unusual for this time of the year as they
> gear up for the summer. So generation capacity was only 50,000MW, while
> demand
Brian-
I am aware. That's also not relevant at all to the point.
On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 9:22 AM Brian Johnson
wrote:
> Tom,
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> You do realize that ERCOT is a non-profit organization….
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> On Apr 14, 2021, at 8:04 AM, Tom Beecher wrote:
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> > Funny how this obsession with a green grid has
Tom,
You do realize that ERCOT is a non-profit organization….
> On Apr 14, 2021, at 8:04 AM, Tom Beecher wrote:
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> > Funny how this obsession with a green grid has made the grid
> > unreliable, resulting in sales of gas-burning generators and
> > perishable fuel. Dare I say it's not been
3, 2021 11:54:55 PM
Subject: Re: Texas ERCOT power shortages (again) April 13
On 4/14/21 03:49, Sean Donelan wrote:
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> ERCOT ISO Texas has announced the end of today's emergency energy
> conservation appeal due to a shortage of generation capacity and
> higher than forecasted d
> Funny how this obsession with a green grid has made the grid
> unreliable, resulting in sales of gas-burning generators and
> perishable fuel. Dare I say it's not been worth it?
Yes, desire for renewable power sources is totally the reason that power
generators neglect proper preventative
On 4/14/21 13:35, Billy Croan wrote:
Sounds like we all need to start keeping a few days reserve of energy
on hand at home now because the utilities can't be trusted to keep
their system online in 2021.
It just makes sense to plan along those lines, really. Despite popular
belief, power
On 4/14/21 07:44, Yang Yu wrote:
a watch that has been cancelled, not an emergency
http://www.ercot.com/services/comm/mkt_notices/opsmessages/2021/04
Apr 13 2021 19:22:55 CST
Physical Responsive Capability < 2500 MW: ERCOT has cancelled the
following notice: ERCOT is issuing a Watch due to
On Tue, Apr 13, 2021 at 8:51 PM Sean Donelan wrote:
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> ERCOT ISO Texas has announced the end of today's emergency energy
> conservation appeal due to a shortage of generation capacity and higher
> than forecasted demand caused by a cold front.
>
> No this is not an old message. Yep, Texas is
On 4/14/21 03:49, Sean Donelan wrote:
ERCOT ISO Texas has announced the end of today's emergency energy
conservation appeal due to a shortage of generation capacity and
higher than forecasted demand caused by a cold front.
No this is not an old message. Yep, Texas is having power
ERCOT ISO Texas has announced the end of today's emergency energy
conservation appeal due to a shortage of generation capacity and higher
than forecasted demand caused by a cold front.
No this is not an old message. Yep, Texas is having power shortages again
in mild April weather.
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