Re: any interesting/useful resources available to IPv6 only?

2019-05-07 Thread Robert L Mathews
On 5/6/19 9:45 AM, Brian J. Murrell wrote: > But the came I am making is to PHBs, not engineers and I am trying to > find a path of least resistance. Providing IPv6 can increase perceived reliability for customers via the Happy Eyeballs algorithm .

Re: any interesting/useful resources available to IPv6 only?

2019-05-07 Thread bzs
That's it! Put your stuff on IPv6-only and vastly improve your security footprint! -- -Barry Shein Software Tool & Die| b...@theworld.com | http://www.TheWorld.com Purveyors to the Trade | Voice: +1 617-STD-WRLD | 800-THE-WRLD The World: Since 1989 | A Public

Re: any interesting/useful resources available to IPv6 only?

2019-05-07 Thread William Waites
On 05/03, Jeroen Massar wrote: > > IPv6 is not a darknet, you won't find something hidden and unique there. The Dancing Kame, surely.

Re: any interesting/useful resources available to IPv6 only?

2019-05-07 Thread Jeroen Massar
On 2019-05-07 15:55, William Waites wrote: > On 05/03, Jeroen Massar wrote: >> >> IPv6 is not a darknet, you won't find something hidden and unique there. > > The Dancing Kame, surely. That Kame has been liberated and made available over IPv4 so long ago that the shop that was selling the

Re: any interesting/useful resources available to IPv6 only?

2019-05-07 Thread Lee Howard
On 5/6/19 12:45 PM, Brian J. Murrell wrote: But the came I am making is to PHBs, not engineers and I am trying to find a path of least resistance. IPv6 is, on average, 20ms faster than IPv4. I don't know why, I just know that the evidence is diverse and compelling that it's true.

Re: any interesting/useful resources available to IPv6 only?

2019-05-07 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Mon, 6 May 2019, Brian J. Murrell wrote: That and that such a VPS is only reachable from IPv6 addresses, if I were to have one, makes more of a case why other ISPs should support IPv6 rather than my own ISP. I have things at work that is only reachable using IPv6. This is not of general

Re: any interesting/useful resources available to IPv6 only?

2019-05-06 Thread John Levine
In article <3ccd8c9a687b1a780c7f2e0f9e89b6d55ccdb2a7.ca...@interlinx.bc.ca> you write: >But the came I am making is to PHBs, not engineers and I am trying to >find a path of least resistance. Oh, then tell them that IPv4 addresses now cost (wave hands) ten bucks each while IPv6 addresses are

Re: any interesting/useful resources available to IPv6 only?

2019-05-06 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Mon, 06 May 2019 14:51:50 -0400, Tom Beecher said: > PHB? Then make it a cost argument. > > "If you plan an implement V6 today, will will cost N. If you delay until > you discover V6 only services, it will cost 3-5xN to implement quickly, > with additional risk of additional costs because

Re: any interesting/useful resources available to IPv6 only?

2019-05-06 Thread Tom Beecher
PHB? Then make it a cost argument. "If you plan an implement V6 today, will will cost N. If you delay until you discover V6 only services, it will cost 3-5xN to implement quickly, with additional risk of additional costs because quicker implementations are likely to miss something along the way."

Re: any interesting/useful resources available to IPv6 only?

2019-05-06 Thread Nuno Vieira via NANOG
VULTR VM IPv6 only is available aswell at $2.5 per month. https://www.vultr.com/?ref=7577922 - Original Message - From: "Robert McKay" To: "Pshem Kowalczyk" Cc: "North American Network Operators' Group" Sent: Monday, 6 May, 2019 14:43:12 Subject: Re: an

Re: any interesting/useful resources available to IPv6 only?

2019-05-06 Thread Brian J. Murrell
On Mon, 2019-05-06 at 12:12 -0400, John Levine wrote: > > There are perfectly good reasons to use v6: no NAT in front of your > devices, Check. > every service gets its own IP, Roger. > better connections to devices > on mobile networks and home networks that are behind v4 NATs. Bingo! All

Re: any interesting/useful resources available to IPv6 only?

2019-05-06 Thread John Levine
In article you write: >Another provider offering discounted IPv6 only VPSes is gandi.net > >https://www.gandi.net/en/cloud -- the two cheapest options "XS-V6" and >"Small - IPv6" are IPv6 only. That's not very persuasive since even their v6 only prices are pretty high. Gandi charges $13.10 for

Re: any interesting/useful resources available to IPv6 only?

2019-05-06 Thread Robert McKay
Another provider offering discounted IPv6 only VPSes is gandi.net https://www.gandi.net/en/cloud -- the two cheapest options "XS-V6" and "Small - IPv6" are IPv6 only. also https://www.mythic-beasts.com/order/rpi is IPv6 only. Rob On 2019-05-05 23:26, Pshem Kowalczyk wrote: I've found a VPS

Re: any interesting/useful resources available to IPv6 only?

2019-05-06 Thread Brian J. Murrell
On Mon, 2019-05-06 at 10:26 +1200, Pshem Kowalczyk wrote: > I've found a VPS provider (https://www.vultr.com/pricing/) that > offers > cheaper instances with IPv6 only. That's an interesting one. Neat to see. But it would probably be a stretch to try to use that as example of why my ISP needs

Re: any interesting/useful resources available to IPv6 only?

2019-05-05 Thread Doug Barton
On 5/3/19 1:33 PM, Mohammad Khalil wrote: Hello all I have prepared something in the past you might find useful (hopefully). First, it's considered rude to send attachments of any size to a mailing list, never mind one that's almost 2 megs in size. Much better to put it on a web site

Re: any interesting/useful resources available to IPv6 only?

2019-05-05 Thread Pshem Kowalczyk
I've found a VPS provider (https://www.vultr.com/pricing/) that offers cheaper instances with IPv6 only. I suspect that there might be others, as ultimately those sort of services can't really escape the issue by using NAT. kind regards Pshem On Sat, 4 May 2019 at 03:15, Brian J. Murrell

Re: any interesting/useful resources available to IPv6 only?

2019-05-05 Thread Marco Davids via NANOG
Op 03-05-19 om 17:14 schreef Brian J. Murrell: I wonder if anyone has any references to interesting/useful/otherwise resources on are only available to IPv6 users that they can forward to me. Most of my personals websites are IPv6-only, but they are neither interesting nor useful.

Re: any interesting/useful resources available to IPv6 only?

2019-05-04 Thread Mohammad Khalil
Hello all I have prepared something in the past you might find useful (hopefully). Please check the attached. BR, Mohammad On Fri, 3 May 2019 at 20:37, James R Cutler wrote: > On May 3, 2019, at 11:47 AM, Doug Barton wrote: > > On 5/3/19 8:14 AM, Brian J. Murrell wrote: > > Hi, > I am trying

Re: any interesting/useful resources available to IPv6 only?

2019-05-03 Thread James R Cutler
> On May 3, 2019, at 11:47 AM, Doug Barton wrote: > > On 5/3/19 8:14 AM, Brian J. Murrell wrote: >> Hi, >> I am trying to make a case (to old fuddy-duddies, which is why I even >> need to actually make a case) for IPv6 for my own selfish reasons. :-) >> I wonder if anyone has any references to

Re: any interesting/useful resources available to IPv6 only?

2019-05-03 Thread Doug Barton
On 5/3/19 8:14 AM, Brian J. Murrell wrote: Hi, I am trying to make a case (to old fuddy-duddies, which is why I even need to actually make a case) for IPv6 for my own selfish reasons. :-) I wonder if anyone has any references to interesting/useful/otherwise resources on are only available to

Re: any interesting/useful resources available to IPv6 only?

2019-05-03 Thread Jeroen Massar
On 2019-05-03 17:14, Brian J. Murrell wrote: > Hi, > > I am trying to make a case (to old fuddy-duddies, which is why I even > need to actually make a case) for IPv6 for my own selfish reasons. :-) > > I wonder if anyone has any references to interesting/useful/otherwise > resources on are only

any interesting/useful resources available to IPv6 only?

2019-05-03 Thread Brian J. Murrell
Hi, I am trying to make a case (to old fuddy-duddies, which is why I even need to actually make a case) for IPv6 for my own selfish reasons. :-) I wonder if anyone has any references to interesting/useful/otherwise resources on are only available to IPv6 users that they can forward to me.