The Cidr Report

This report has been generated at Fri Oct 9 21:14:52 2015 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date

The Cidr Report

This report has been generated at Fri Oct 2 21:14:51 2015 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date

The Cidr Report

This report has been generated at Fri Sep 25 21:15:27 2015 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date

The Cidr Report

This report has been generated at Fri Sep 18 21:14:54 2015 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date

The Cidr Report

This report has been generated at Fri Sep 11 21:14:56 2015 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date

The Cidr Report

This report has been generated at Fri Sep 4 21:14:47 2015 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date

The Cidr Report

This report has been generated at Fri Aug 28 21:14:41 2015 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date

The Cidr Report

This report has been generated at Fri Aug 21 21:14:46 2015 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date

The Cidr Report

This report has been generated at Fri Aug 14 21:14:47 2015 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date

The Cidr Report

This report has been generated at Fri Aug 7 21:14:53 2015 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date

The Cidr Report

This report has been generated at Fri Jul 31 21:14:46 2015 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date

The Cidr Report

This report has been generated at Fri Jul 24 21:16:32 2015 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date

The Cidr Report

This report has been generated at Fri Jul 17 21:14:51 2015 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date

The Cidr Report

This report has been generated at Fri Jul 10 21:14:43 2015 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date

The Cidr Report

This report has been generated at Fri Jul 3 21:18:39 2015 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date

The Cidr Report

This report has been generated at Fri Jun 26 21:17:55 2015 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date

The Cidr Report

This report has been generated at Fri Jun 19 21:14:38 2015 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date

The Cidr Report

This report has been generated at Fri Jun 12 21:14:37 2015 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date

The Cidr Report

This report has been generated at Fri Jun 5 21:14:36 2015 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date

The Cidr Report

This report has been generated at Fri May 29 21:14:38 2015 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date

The Cidr Report

This report has been generated at Fri May 22 21:14:36 2015 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date

The Cidr Report

This report has been generated at Fri May 15 21:14:39 2015 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date

The Cidr Report

This report has been generated at Fri May 8 21:14:42 2015 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date

The Cidr Report

This report has been generated at Fri May 1 21:14:34 2015 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date

The Cidr Report

This report has been generated at Fri Apr 24 21:14:34 2015 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date

The Cidr Report

This report has been generated at Fri Apr 17 21:14:32 2015 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date

The Cidr Report

This report has been generated at Fri Apr 10 21:14:35 2015 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date

The Cidr Report

This report has been generated at Fri Apr 3 21:14:33 2015 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date

The Cidr Report

This report has been generated at Fri Mar 27 21:14:39 2015 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date

The Cidr Report

This report has been generated at Fri Mar 20 21:14:21 2015 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date

The Cidr Report

This report has been generated at Fri Mar 13 21:14:30 2015 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date

The Cidr Report

This report has been generated at Fri Mar 6 21:14:23 2015 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date

The Cidr Report

This report has been generated at Fri Feb 27 21:14:26 2015 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date

The Cidr Report

This report has been generated at Fri Feb 20 21:14:25 2015 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date

The Cidr Report

This report has been generated at Fri Feb 13 21:14:25 2015 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date

The Cidr Report

This report has been generated at Fri Feb 6 21:14:23 2015 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date

The Cidr Report

This report has been generated at Fri Jan 30 21:14:23 2015 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date

The Cidr Report

This report has been generated at Fri Jan 23 21:14:26 2015 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date

The Cidr Report

This report has been generated at Fri Jan 16 21:14:25 2015 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date

The Cidr Report

This report has been generated at Fri Jan 9 21:14:22 2015 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date

The Cidr Report

This report has been generated at Fri Jan 2 21:14:20 2015 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date

The Cidr Report

This report has been generated at Fri Dec 26 21:14:48 2014 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date

The Cidr Report

This report has been generated at Fri Dec 19 21:14:21 2014 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date

The Cidr Report

This report has been generated at Fri Dec 12 21:14:23 2014 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date

The Cidr Report

This report has been generated at Fri Dec 5 21:14:20 2014 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date

The Cidr Report

This report has been generated at Fri Nov 28 21:14:20 2014 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date

The Cidr Report

This report has been generated at Fri Nov 21 21:14:20 2014 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date

The Cidr Report

This report has been generated at Fri Nov 14 21:14:18 2014 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date

The Cidr Report

This report has been generated at Fri Nov 7 21:14:21 2014 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date

The Cidr Report

This report has been generated at Fri Oct 31 21:14:13 2014 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date

Re: cidr-report

On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Aftab Siddiqui wrote: > AS13184 http://www.cidr-report.org/cgi-bin/as-report?as=AS13184&view=2.0 shows they deaggregated all of their aggregates and leaked that space to the world (mostly as /23 or /24 subnets of their larger prefixes) the ripestat link shows 2

Re: cidr-report

>Has anyone noticed any issues resulting from the increase? > No > > http://www.cidr-report.org/as2.0/#General_Status > > But quite interestingly seems like something went wrong with AS13184 around 12:00 UTC. https://stat.ripe.net/AS13184#tabId=routing Regards, Aftab A. Siddiqui

cidr-report

We noticed a large increase in prefixes this morning. Has anyone noticed any issues resulting from the increase? http://www.cidr-report.org/as2.0/#General_Status Thanks, Ron

The Cidr Report

This report has been generated at Fri Oct 24 21:14:12 2014 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date

The Cidr Report

This report has been generated at Fri Oct 17 21:14:14 2014 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date

The Cidr Report

This report has been generated at Fri Oct 10 21:14:14 2014 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date

The Cidr Report

This report has been generated at Fri Oct 3 21:14:05 2014 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date

The Cidr Report

This report has been generated at Fri Sep 26 21:14:14 2014 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date

The Cidr Report

This report has been generated at Fri Sep 19 21:14:16 2014 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date

The Cidr Report

This report has been generated at Fri Sep 12 21:14:14 2014 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date

The Cidr Report

This report has been generated at Fri Sep 5 21:14:08 2014 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date

The Cidr Report

This report has been generated at Fri Aug 29 21:14:09 2014 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date

The Cidr Report

This report has been generated at Fri Aug 22 21:14:52 2014 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date

The Cidr Report

This report has been generated at Fri Aug 15 21:14:03 2014 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date

RE: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

It looks great though I would not want to troubleshoot the RIB to FIB programing errors unless there's a note somewhere saying what abbreviation to search for in FIB. The other think that comes to mind is that the more specifics could have different backup next-hops programed. adam > From: NAN

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

I think you mean what is best described here: http://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog7/BGP_filtering-swinog.ppt --Aris > Suresh Ramasubramanian > Thursday, August 14, 2014 04:59 > Swisscom or some other European SP has / used to have a limit where they > would not accept

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4GLTE sm - Reply message - From: "William Herrin" To: "Randy Bush" Cc: "North American Network Operators' Group" Subject: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today Date: Th

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 6:07 PM, Randy Bush wrote: >>> ahhh, you dug out the [j]tac tickets, or are you just conjecturbating? >> Neither. I'm reporting the state of the science. > > ROFL. so just ad hominem. smart. That phrase "ad hominem," I don't think it means what you think it means. -Bill

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

>> ahhh, you dug out the [j]tac tickets, or are you just conjecturbating? > Neither. ROFL. so just ad hominem. smart. randy

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 4:57 PM, Randy Bush wrote: >> My point was that Randy's BGP RIB pruning knobs are missing for a >> different reason than your router FIB pruning knobs. Neither the >> science nor the technology exists to create Randy's BGP pruning knobs. > > ahhh, you dug out the [j]tac tic

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

> My point was that Randy's BGP RIB pruning knobs are missing for a > different reason than your router FIB pruning knobs. Neither the > science nor the technology exists to create Randy's BGP pruning knobs. ahhh, you dug out the [j]tac tickets, or are you just conjecturbating? if the former, tick

RE: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

bject: Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today half the routing table is deagg crap. filter it. you mean your vendor won't give you the knobs to do it smartly ([j]tac tickets open for five years)? wonder why. randy

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 8:20 PM, Chris Woodfield wrote: > Hence the “when programming the TCAM” part of my original statement :) Hi Chris, My point was that Randy's BGP RIB pruning knobs are missing for a different reason than your router FIB pruning knobs. Neither the science nor the technology

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

> When ACL112 came into being, there were old equipment that were being > protected by the /19 filters. However, the filters were in place long > after those equipment were replaced. This was done for commercial reasons, not to protect the Internet. You know it, I know it, and I'm pretty sure the

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

On Aug 14, 2014, at 02:36 , Randy Bush wrote: >> It was kindly pointed out to me in private that my phrasing could be >> misleading here. >> >> When ACL112 came into being, there were old equipment that were being >> protected by the /19 filters. However, the filters were in place long >> after

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

I believe at one point, SPRINT had in the RADB (and actively advertised) 0.0.0.0/2, 64.0.0.0/2, 128.0.0.0/2, and 192.0.0.0/2 under something called “Quarter Default Route, see Rational Default Project” or words to that effect. I could be wrong. It was a long time ago and I barely remember SPRIN

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

Subject: Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today Date: Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 11:27:46AM -0700 Quoting Merike Kaeo (mer...@doubleshotsecurity.com): > > B: they *did* know about the issue, but convincing management to spend > >

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

> It was kindly pointed out to me in private that my phrasing could be > misleading here. > > When ACL112 came into being, there were old equipment that were being > protected by the /19 filters. However, the filters were in place long > after those equipment were replaced. but by then it had dri

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 01:47:20AM -0400, Dorian Kim wrote: > On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 12:15:36AM -0400, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: > > Composed on a virtual keyboard, please forgive typos. > > > > > On Aug 13, 2014, at 22:59, Suresh Ramasubramanian > > > wrote: > > > > > > Swisscom or some othe

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

>>> you mean your vendor won't give you the knobs to do it smartly ([j]tac >>> tickets open for five years)? wonder why. >> >> Might be useful if you mentioned what you considered a "smart" way to >> trim the fib. But then you couldn't bitch and moan about people not >> understanding you, which i

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 12:15:36AM -0400, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: > Composed on a virtual keyboard, please forgive typos. > > > On Aug 13, 2014, at 22:59, Suresh Ramasubramanian > > wrote: > > > > Swisscom or some other European SP has / used to have a limit where they > > would not accept

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

Sprint also had 192/2 in the RADB :) manning bill wrote: Sprint used to proxy aggregate… I remember 128.0.0.0/3 the real question, imho, is if folks are going to look into their crystal balls and roadmap where the default offered is a /32 (either v4 or v6) and plan accordingly, or just slap

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

Sprint used to proxy aggregate… I remember 128.0.0.0/3 the real question, imho, is if folks are going to look into their crystal balls and roadmap where the default offered is a /32 (either v4 or v6) and plan accordingly, or just slap another bandaid on the oozing wound... /bill PO Box 1231

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

Composed on a virtual keyboard, please forgive typos. > On Aug 13, 2014, at 22:59, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: > > Swisscom or some other European SP has / used to have a limit where they > would not accept more specific routes than say a /22 from provider x, so if > you wanted to take a /2

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

Once upon a time, Brett Frankenberger said: > -- This isn't that hard to implement. Once you have a FIB and > primitives for manipulating it, it's not especially difficult to extend > them to also maintain a minimal-size-FIB. I would say it is hard to implement, or at least non-trivial. Buildin

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

Swisscom or some other European SP has / used to have a limit where they would not accept more specific routes than say a /22 from provider x, so if you wanted to take a /24 and announce it you were SOL sending packets to them from that /24 over provider y. Still, for elderly and capacity limited

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 07:53:45PM -0400, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: > > you mean your vendor won't give you the knobs to do it smartly ([j]tac > > tickets open for five years)? wonder why. > > Might be useful if you mentioned what you considered a "smart" way to > trim the fib. But then you could

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

> > Pruning FIB entries, on the other hand, can be done quite safely as > long as you're willing to accept the conversion of "null route" to > "don't care." Some experiments were done on this in the IETF a couple > years back. Draft-zhang-fibaggregation maybe? Savings of 30% in > typical backbone

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 6:47 PM, Chris Woodfield wrote: > On Aug 13, 2014, at 1:42 PM, Randy Bush wrote: >> half the routing table is deagg crap. filter it. >> >> you mean your vendor won't give you the knobs to do it smartly ([j]tac >> tickets open for five years)? wonder why. > Same reason n

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

On Aug 13, 2014, at 16:42 , Randy Bush wrote: > half the routing table is deagg crap. filter it. We disagree. Just because you don't like all more specifics doesn't mean they are useless. Not everything is about minimizing FIB size. (And RIB size hasn't been relevant for years.) People pay

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

On 14 Aug 2014, at 4:14 am, Paul Ferguson wrote: > >> On 8/13/14 8:55 AM, Paul Ferguson wrote: >>> Apologies for replying to my own post, but... below: >>> >>> On 8/13/2014 7:05 AM, Paul Ferguson wrote: >>> >>> p.s. I recall some IPv6 prefix growth routing projections by Vince Full

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

Same reason no vendor has bothered to prune redundant RIB entries (i.e. more-specific pointing to the same NH as a covering route) when programming the TCAM... -C On Aug 13, 2014, at 1:42 PM, Randy Bush wrote: > half the routing table is deagg crap. filter it. > > you mean your vendor won

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

half the routing table is deagg crap. filter it. you mean your vendor won't give you the knobs to do it smartly ([j]tac tickets open for five years)? wonder why. randy

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

quot;Here, buy my widget... and then you'll > come back in a few years and buy another one.. ". > Yup, folk purchasing these *should* have known (not like there was no > discussions of this), but, well, not everyone spends all day reading > NANOG / RIPE / CIDR report... >

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 8/13/2014 11:09 AM, joel jaeggli wrote: > On 8/13/14 8:55 AM, Paul Ferguson wrote: >> Apologies for replying to my own post, but... below: >> >> On 8/13/2014 7:05 AM, Paul Ferguson wrote: >> >> >>> p.s. I recall some IPv6 prefix growth routing

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

On 8/13/14 8:55 AM, Paul Ferguson wrote: > Apologies for replying to my own post, but... below: > > On 8/13/2014 7:05 AM, Paul Ferguson wrote: > > >> p.s. I recall some IPv6 prefix growth routing projections by Vince >> Fuller and Tony Li from several years ago which illustrated this, >> but ca

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

;. Yup, folk purchasing these *should* >> have known (not like there was no discussions of this), but, >> well, not everyone spends all day reading NANOG / RIPE / CIDR >> report... > > I am not an operator, but I used to be a *really* active routing > engineer once upo

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

hat could have > been (and was) easily predicted... "Here, buy my widget... and then > you'll come back in a few years and buy another one.. > ". Yup, folk purchasing these *should* have known (not > like there was no discussions of this), but, well, not everyone >

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

redicted... "Here, buy my widget... and then you'll come back in a few years and buy another one.. ". Yup, folk purchasing these *should* have known (not like there was no discussions of this), but, well, not everyone spends all day reading NANOG / RIPE / CIDR report... W > >

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

Subject: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today Date: Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 09:40:55PM +0530 Quoting Suresh Ramasubramanian (ops.li...@gmail.com): > 512K routes, here we come. Lots of TCAM based routers suddenly become > really expensive doo

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