On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 10:55 PM, Matthew Kaufman matt...@matthew.at wrote:
On 1/8/2011 3:22 PM, Frank Bulk wrote:
Relay nodes are always protecting themselves by rate-limiting, aren't
they?
Yes.
And isn't most media traffic relayed?
No, not at all. Almost all media traffic goes directly
On Jan 8, 2011, at 4:40 AM, Lee Howard wrote:
I think that's a bit of what we've been trying to do with the Best
Current Operational
Practices BoFs. We need a place where operators can discuss and document
BCOPs.
While I think BCOPs (and BCOP BoFs) are a great idea, I guess the question
is
On 1/8/11 3:22 PM, Frank Bulk wrote:
Maybe HE would volunteer to host some Skype servers at their various POPS
for this purpose.
skype has the the ability to deploy supernodes on demand using their own
capacity. they've demonstrated that in the face of congestive collapse,
buying ipv6 transit
On Jan 9, 2011, at 2:09 AM, Jeff Wheeler wrote:
In terms of database size, excluding RIPE, the ARIN IRR is the 8th
largest, ahead of ALTDB and about 10% as large as Level3, the second
largest IRR database (except RIPE.) A mass-corruption of the ARIN IRR
overnight might be a serious incident
On Jan 5, 2011, at 12:07 PM, Jeff Wheeler wrote:
I would like to note that RADB had route6: support in about 2004 or
so, if my memory serves me; while the ARIN database did not accept
route6 objects until about a year ago. So it is not exactly a high
priority for ARIN.
The priority of IRR
In an effort of figuring out a metro ethernet access network to carry Internet
access services,
I'm comparing the approaches of several equipment manufacturers insofar as how,
they allow a metro service provider to provide point-to-multipoint E-TREE
public services,
(where the leaves of the
On Sun, 9 Jan 2011, John Curran wrote:
Should IRR services be part of the ARIN mission?
If that's a serious question, why does rr.arin.net exist at all?
--
Jon Lewis, MCP :) | I route
Senior Network Engineer
On Jan 9, 2011, at 3:02 PM, Jon Lewis wrote:
Should IRR services be part of the ARIN mission?
If that's a serious question, why does rr.arin.net exist at all?
Jon -
Existence of not in and of itself proof that the services are
presently desired by the community, nor that there are
Do you: 1) want IRR services, and if so, with what features?
2) believe IRR services should be provided by ARIN?
the irr is slightly useful today. so, iff it is cheap and easy, arin
providing an open and free instance is a public good. again, iff it is
easy and cheap. and please
On Jan 8, 2011, at 4:11 AM, David Conrad wrote:
Another view is that ARIN's whole and sole reason for being is to provide
services to the network operators in the ARIN region. As such, it would be
ill-advised for ARIN to change those services without consulting the
community that ARIN
I feel a bit silly asking this but I have had the hardest time finding a sales
representative for the TW Telecom national group.
Can someone please assist off-list?
thanks,
-Drew
On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 1:09 PM, John Curran jcur...@arin.net wrote:
Please suggest your preferred means of IRR authentication to the ARIN
suggestion process: https://www.arin.net/participate/acsp/index.html
Alternatively, point to a best practice document from the operator
community for
Subject: Re: AltDB? Date: Sun, Jan 09, 2011 at 06:09:13PM + Quoting John
Curran (jcur...@arin.net):
On Jan 9, 2011, at 2:09 AM, Jeff Wheeler wrote:
Please suggest your preferred means of IRR authentication to the ARIN
suggestion process:
On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 6:27 PM, Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote:
Do you: 1) want IRR services, and if so, with what features?
2) believe IRR services should be provided by ARIN?
the irr is slightly useful today. so, iff it is cheap and easy, arin
providing an open and free
Do you: 1) want IRR services, and if so, with what features?
2) believe IRR services should be provided by ARIN?
the irr is slightly useful today. so, iff it is cheap and easy, arin
providing an open and free instance is a public good. again, iff it is
easy and cheap. and
On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 6:48 PM, Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote:
jeff, i do not disagree that running an irr instance with only mail-from
is s 1980s. and, as mans points out, there is free software out
there to do it (i recommend irrd). but i do not see good cause for arin
to spend
On Jan 9, 2011, at 6:30 PM, Jeff Wheeler wrote:
John,
I appreciate you taking time to respond to this while on vacation.
However, I think we all know that your response is not a here is how
you tell us what to do, it's a here is our cop-out response to make
an incredibly simple fix either
On 01/09/2011 07:46 AM, Matthew Kaufman wrote:
On 1/8/2011 3:16 AM, Leen Besselink wrote:
Hello Mr. Kaufman,
In the upcoming years, we will have no IPv6 in some places and badly
performing IPv4 (CGN, etc.) with working IPv6 in others.
Right. So we're discussing just how badly performing the
On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 7:33 PM, John Curran jcur...@arin.net wrote:
My reason for responding is simply to make sure that ARIN is doing
what the community wants. I won't deny that this may take some time
depending on exactly what is involved, but in my mind that is far
better than not fixing
On Jan 9, 2011, at 9:53 PM, Jeff Wheeler wrote:
Why should an operational security issue with the ARIN IRR be handled
as a policy issue?
Operational security matters should simply be fixed; that's not a policy
matter but an implementation issue.
Do you know that I have emailed ARIN about
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On 01/09/2011 03:41 PM, Jeff Wheeler wrote:
On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 6:27 PM, Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote:
Do you: 1) want IRR services, and if so, with what features?
2) believe IRR services should be provided by ARIN?
I am
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On 01/09/2011 03:48 PM, Randy Bush wrote:
Do you: 1) want IRR services, and if so, with what features?
I think so. In theory it seems useful. In practice...
http://www.renesys.com/blog/2009/05/keeping-score.shtml
not so much.
2)
I had a vague concept of IRR before this thread, and have researched
them as a result of it. They seem quite useful. I didn't know anything
about RPKI before this thread. I'm looking into that now.
So I don't think ARIN should spend it's limited resources on anything to
do with it's copy of
On Jan 8, 2011, at 10:46 PM, Matthew Kaufman wrote:
On 1/8/2011 3:16 AM, Leen Besselink wrote:
Hello Mr. Kaufman,
In the upcoming years, we will have no IPv6 in some places and badly
performing IPv4 (CGN, etc.) with working IPv6 in others.
Right. So we're discussing just how badly
On Jan 9, 2011, at 4:57 PM, Leen Besselink wrote:
On 01/09/2011 07:46 AM, Matthew Kaufman wrote:
On 1/8/2011 3:16 AM, Leen Besselink wrote:
Hello Mr. Kaufman,
In the upcoming years, we will have no IPv6 in some places and badly
performing IPv4 (CGN, etc.) with working IPv6 in others.
On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 10:47 PM, John Curran jcur...@arin.net wrote:
Jeff - ARIN does indeed have folks who worry about whether the policy
development process is being followed. We also have folks who actually
implement the policy and issue number resources.
And we all agree that this is
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