Re: Comcast outages continue even in areas with PG power restored

2019-10-15 Thread Matt Hoppes
I disagree with the statement that providers should not be required to backup their networks while I don't think it should be an FCC requirement, I do believe the providers have an obligation to do that. That's one of the reasons we generally opt for larger node sizes. Yes, it does

Re: VDSL

2019-10-15 Thread Rod Beck
Both the cable and PTT have wiring in the buildings, but I suspect it is all CAT5 or the European equivalent in each apartment. Most of these flats have not been renovated in 30 to 50 years and that is usually when the flat is renovated that wiring would get upgraded. The cable company will

Re: Comcast outages continue even in areas with PG power restored

2019-10-15 Thread Brandon Martin
On 10/15/19 11:28 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote: Except I’m not talking about CPE. I agree that’s the customer’s job. I was confused based on Masataka's focus on CPE power. I’m talking about keeping the nodes up and running. Yep. -- Brandon Martin

Re: Video Streaming Wars

2019-10-15 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Brian J. Murrell said: > The video streaming wars are this years version of last years cable > channel bundling. Everyone knows the game the cablecos play where they > bundle 14 channels of crap with one channel that people actually want > and because it's 15 channels, hey,

Re: lots of traffic starting at 3 a.m. central time

2019-10-15 Thread Ben Cannon
Somebody release a software update? -Ben > On Oct 15, 2019, at 9:08 AM, Dan White wrote: > > Here's a graph of our eyeball network traffic (CDT): > > https://ibb.co/kJQYKMq > > This is an unprecedented increase in traffic for us, day or night, outside > of DDOS traffic. > > Our traffic

VDSL

2019-10-15 Thread Rod Beck
Hi, I discovered that the Budapest cable company was using VDLS to provide services up to 500 megs into the buildings where my flats are located. VDSL is a pretty old standard. I recollect people talking about it back in 1998. Is it being heavily deployed in Last Mile networks state side?

Re: Comcast outages continue even in areas with PG power restored

2019-10-15 Thread Brandon Martin
On 10/15/2019 09:42, Matt Hoppes wrote: I disagree with the statement that providers should not be required to backup their networks while I don't think it should be an FCC requirement, I do believe the providers have an obligation to do that. That's one of the reasons we generally opt

Re: lots of traffic starting at 3 a.m. central time

2019-10-15 Thread Aaron
Fortnite update? On 10/15/2019 10:54 AM, Luke Guillory wrote: That’s what I’m seeing as well, went  from 2.2G around 2:50AM CST to a peak of 16G. https://i.imgur.com/en89kyO.png Luke Guillory Vice President – Technology and Innovation Tel:

Re: VDSL

2019-10-15 Thread Rod Beck
These are large 19th century buildings with courtyards. I have seen lots of activity on this street - fiber being pulled from manhole and gear being installed in cable manholes. Corning on the cables. Regards, Roderick. From: NANOG on behalf of Tim Howe

lots of traffic starting at 3 a.m. central time

2019-10-15 Thread Aaron Gould
Anyone else see lots of traffic coming down starting at 3 a.m. central time ? all of my internet connections showed strangely larger load for a few early morning hours. I have some info that tells me what it was but wanted to hear it from others too. -Aaron

Re: VDSL

2019-10-15 Thread Tim Howe
That's what I would expect. A Gfast ONU in the building with fiber backhaul. You can use legacy Cat3 pair or coax to get from the Telco closet to each suite. That's basically what Gfast is for. --TimH On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 17:51:50 + Rod Beck wrote: > These are large 19th century

Re: Comcast outages continue even in areas with PG power restored

2019-10-15 Thread Michael Thomas
On 10/14/19 6:11 PM, Sean Donelan wrote: On Mon, 14 Oct 2019, Michael Thomas wrote: deal with the CPE, that the cable plant was the actual problem. The cable companies should, imo, be held to the same standard as the telcos. Maybe even moreso these days since IP has taken over everything.

Re: Comcast outages continue even in areas with PG power restored

2019-10-15 Thread Matt Hoppes
Except I’m not talking about CPE. I agree that’s the customer’s job. I’m talking about keeping the nodes up and running. > On Oct 15, 2019, at 7:50 AM, Brandon Martin wrote: > >> On 10/15/2019 09:42, Matt Hoppes wrote: >> I disagree with the statement that providers should not be required to

Video Streaming Wars

2019-10-15 Thread Rod Beck
https://www.lightreading.com/video/ott/whats-at-stake-as-the-streaming-battle-builds-/d/d-id/754841? [https://img.lightreading.com/2019/10/754841/3383.jpg] What's at Stake as the Streaming Battle

Re: lots of traffic starting at 3 a.m. central time

2019-10-15 Thread Dan White
Here's a graph of our eyeball network traffic (CDT): https://ibb.co/kJQYKMq This is an unprecedented increase in traffic for us, day or night, outside of DDOS traffic. Our traffic monitoring system identifies this a Akamai traffic. On 10/15/19 15:54 +, Luke Guillory wrote: That’s what

Re: lots of traffic starting at 3 a.m. central time

2019-10-15 Thread Jared Mauch
If you have questions or issues related to this traffic can you ping me off list? We can't comment on specific customers but if you are having issues please reach out to me or your local friendly Akamai person. Sent from my iCar > On Oct 15, 2019, at 11:48 AM, Phil Lavin wrote: > >  > >

RE: VDSL

2019-10-15 Thread Phil Lavin
> I discovered that the Budapest cable company was using VDLS to provide > services up to 500 megs into the buildings where my flats are located. VDSL > is a pretty old standard. I recollect people talking about it back in 1998. > Is it being heavily deployed in Last Mile networks state side?

Re: VDSL

2019-10-15 Thread Eric Dugas
Bell Canada still uses a lot of VDSL2 last-miles in Quebec and Ontario. Max speed is 100/10 over bonded pairs and 50/10 over a single pair over short distances. Generally served from a fiber-fed DSLAM and less than 500 meters. On Oct 15 2019, at 1:48 pm, Rod Beck wrote: > I understand. My

Re: VDSL

2019-10-15 Thread Rod Beck
The PTT is limited in 50 megs in this building. However, the cable company just upgraded its network and is now offering up to 500. I assume the cable company is using coax and may be that gives them an edge when combined with VDSL to get up to 500 megs. From:

RE: lots of traffic starting at 3 a.m. central time

2019-10-15 Thread Luke Guillory
That’s what I’m seeing as well, went from 2.2G around 2:50AM CST to a peak of 16G. https://i.imgur.com/en89kyO.png Luke Guillory Vice President – Technology and Innovation [cid:imageade5f7.JPG@f6770aff.4fbbcff1] Tel:985.536.1212 Fax:

Re: VDSL

2019-10-15 Thread Matt Harris
On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 12:25 PM Rod Beck wrote: > Hi, > > I discovered that the Budapest cable company was using VDLS to provide > services up to 500 megs into the buildings where my flats are located. VDSL > is a pretty old standard. I recollect people talking about it back in 1998. > > Is it

Re: VDSL

2019-10-15 Thread Tim Howe
On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 17:24:44 + Rod Beck wrote: > Hi, > > I discovered that the Budapest cable company was using VDLS to > provide services up to 500 megs into the buildings where my flats are > located. VDSL is a pretty old standard. I recollect people talking > about it back in 1998. > >

Re: Comcast outages continue even in areas with PG power restored

2019-10-15 Thread Michael Thomas
On 10/14/19 5:58 PM, Brandon Martin wrote: On 10/14/19 8:26 PM, Michael Thomas wrote: So when we were working on this 20 years ago at Cisco, there was a tremendous amount of effort to deal with the issue of e911 and generally battery backup. I'm really surprised to hear that though we went

RE: lots of traffic starting at 3 a.m. central time

2019-10-15 Thread Phil Lavin
> Anyone else see lots of traffic coming down starting at 3 a.m. central time ? > all of my internet connections showed strangely larger load for a few early > morning hours. Someone, on another list, mentioned a 70% increase in traffic to Akamai which seems to correlate with a new Fortnite

Re: VDSL

2019-10-15 Thread Rod Beck
I understand. My recollection is that the distance is like 100 meters. VDSL is what the engineers deploying on the street told me. I think there is a node right outside. Regards, Roderick. From: Matt Harris Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 7:37 PM To: Rod Beck

Re: Video Streaming Wars

2019-10-15 Thread Brian J. Murrell
On Tue, 2019-10-15 at 17:12 +, Rod Beck wrote: > https://www.lightreading.com/video/ott/whats-at-stake-as-the-streaming-battle-builds-/d/d-id/754841? > [ >

Anyone noticing any odd latency/bandwidth congestion going on in Seattle?

2019-10-15 Thread Brielle
Hi all, I've suddenly started showing high latency in Seattle off of CenturyLink in Boise going to Comcast in Denver. Boise fiber to Denver... traceroute to 50.239.215.xxx (50.239.215.xxx), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets 4 sea-brdr-02.inet.qwest.net (67.14.41.194) 12.394 ms 12.348 ms

Re: VDSL

2019-10-15 Thread Brielle
On 10/15/2019 11:37 AM, Matt Harris wrote: It's not super-widely used in the US today Its actually got pretty heavy use in a lot of CenturyLink areas, like here in Boise. Fiber is only now starting to become the norm, so everyone is on VDSL2 in single or bonded modes, speeds all the way

Re: Comcast outages continue even in areas with PG power restored

2019-10-15 Thread Masataka Ohta
Sean Donelan wrote: Given that providers can't supply power to mobile phones, that sending power over fiber is extremely eye unsafe and that most CPEs are routers which themselves are useless without end systems, it is reasonable that providers are not required to supply power to home. But,

Problems sending emails to AT

2019-10-15 Thread Grzegorz Janoszka
Hi, Whenever I try to send something to emails in @att.net I get a reply: host ff-ip4-mx-vip1.prodigy.net[144.160.159.21] said: 553 5.3.0 flph831 DNSBL:RBL 521< MY.IP4.ADD.RES >_is_blocked.For assistance forward this error to abuse_...@abuse-att.net (in reply to MAIL FROM

Re: Request comment: list of IPs to block outbound

2019-10-15 Thread Saku Ytti
On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 09:30, Vincent Bernat wrote: > How much performance impact should we expect with uRPF? Depends on the platform, but often it's 2nd lookup. So potentially 50% decrease in performance. Some platforms it means FIB duplication. And ultimately it doesn't really offer anything