On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 8:05 PM Brian J. Murrell
wrote:
> On Fri, 2020-03-06 at 18:37 -0500, b...@theworld.com wrote:
> >
> > Why don't they just ask the phone companies who are billing these
> > robocallers who they are and we can arrest them.
>
> Exactly.
>
> I have always maintained that if my
Point taken.
On March 8, 2020 at 15:06 dam...@google.com (Damian Menscher) wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 8, 2020 at 2:18 PM wrote:
>
>
> It's really not analogous to most of the mass attacks on the net
> because the entire telco system is built to know who is using it in
> great
On 3/8/20 9:59 AM, Damian Menscher via NANOG wrote:
In the robocall case, there*is* something the end user can do to fight the
abuse: answer every call, and keep them on the line as long as possible.
They are paying for connected calls, for the connection duration, and for
the humans to scam
On 3/8/20 4:00 PM, b...@theworld.com wrote:
As I've said before what would likely work is if every time one of us
(in the US anyhow) got a junk call we immediately called our
congressional and/or senate office(s) and simply said "just got
another junk call! (optionally add description.)"
On Sun, 08 Mar 2020 17:17:37 -0400, b...@theworld.com said:
> Which primarily leaves the question of why this Kabuki theater by the
> FCC et al pretending as if it's some vast, uncontrollable evil like
> the corona virus etc.?
Because even in today's climate of regulatory capture posing as proper
I do the same, don't say anything when I pick up an unknown caller id
until they say something, they disconnect about half or more of the
time tho not always.
As I've said before what would likely work is if every time one of us
(in the US anyhow) got a junk call we immediately called our
Send them all to Lenny!
If Apple and Google implemented a "Forward to Lenny" option in their OSes, robo
calls would drop dramatically. :-)
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
Midwest Internet Exchange
The Brothers WISP
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From: "Damian
On Sun, Mar 8, 2020 at 2:18 PM wrote:
>
> It's really not analogous to most of the mass attacks on the net
> because the entire telco system is built to know who is using it in
> great detail.
>
You don't think transit providers bill their customers?
The analogy holds surprisingly well. Any
It's really not analogous to most of the mass attacks on the net
because the entire telco system is built to know who is using it in
great detail.
Have you ever made a billable call and *not* been billed for it?
If you're getting the same "Hi, this is from card holder
services" calls like
The first ACM SIGCOMM Workshop on Traffic Manipulation (ManTra’20) will be
co-located with the ACM SIGCOMM conference and will be held at Columbia
University, New York City, USA, Aug. 10-14, 2020 .
I think it may be of interest to some of the NANOG community, to
participate and/or submit; you may
On March 7, 2020 at 14:54 s...@donelan.com (Sean Donelan) wrote:
>
> Has encryption ever solved scams/fraud/spam?
>
> Extended Validation SSL Certificates - Just pay a Certificate Authority
> more money
>
> DKIM signed email - Just pay a mail provider more money to blast email
>
>
> Warren Kumari
> Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2020 4:31 PM
>
> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 11:20 AM Coy Hile wrote:
> >
> > On 2020-02-26 11:14, Randy Bush wrote:
> > >> We use plenty of multi-mode, but only in the data centre, between
> > >> our own kit, for racks within the same cage.
> > >
> >
On March 7, 2020 at 02:03 morrowc.li...@gmail.com (Christopher Morrow) wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 11:05 PM Brian J. Murrell
> wrote:
>
> > So, if my telco can bill the callers for those premium calls, they
> > surely know who they are, or at least know where they are sending the
>
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