On 4/14/2016 15:10, Larry Sheldon wrote:
We wrote off a lot of revenue on calls that involved a company (if I
remembered the name I still would not repeat it--ditto its location)
which turn out to be pretty much one man who like to sell and install
mobile radio telephone stations. And, it
On 4/20/2016 10:15, Owen DeLong wrote:
On Apr 20, 2016, at 7:59 AM, Jean-Francois Mezei
wrote:
On 2016-04-20 10:52, Owen DeLong wrote:
For the most part, “long distance” calls within the US are a thing of the
past and at least one mobile carrier now treats US/CA/MX as a single
local call
I am completely innocent of rfc1812, and have been out of the game for a
long time, but I am pretty sure I was taught (and in turn taught) that a
router would reply using the address of the interface that originated
the reply unless that interface was unnumbered, in which case it would
reply
On 6/4/2016 13:38, Owen DeLong wrote:
If you’re wife is really worried about $100/year, give up your first
2 weeks of Starbucks each year in trade.
My wife does very well in managing our sparse resources (in spite of the
efforts of the government and the Jesuits) and (I suspect) would not
p
You did.
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its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole
life believing that it is stupid."
--Albert Einstein
From Larry's Cox account.
My how the world has changed!
On 7/1/2016 21:28, Edgar Carver wrote:
Hello NANOG community. I was directed here by our network administrator
since she is on vacation.
I am Old School, I guess. In my day Step One would be "Fire the
administrator." The job is by nature a 24 X 7 X 52 job and "
My how the world has changed!
On 7/1/2016 21:28, Edgar Carver wrote:
Hello NANOG community. I was directed here by our network administrator
since she is on vacation.
I am Old School, I guess. In my day Step One would be "Fire the
administrator." The job is by nature a 24 X 7 X 52 job and "
On 7/5/2016 18:46, Matt Palmer wrote:
On Fri, Jul 01, 2016 at 09:28:54PM -0500, Edgar Carver wrote:
Hello NANOG community. I was directed here by our network administrator
since she is on vacation. Luckily, I minored in Computer Science so I have
some familiarity.
Well played, Tay. Well pla
On 7/26/2016 21:19, jim deleskie wrote:
Back in the day didn't we refer to such hosting as bulletproof hosting?
Not HERE!
NANA-E, sure.
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On 7/29/2016 10:02, Vikash Sorout via NANOG wrote:
blockquote, div.yahoo_quoted { margin-left: 0 !important; border-left:1px
#715FFA solid !important; padding-left:1ex !important; background-color:white
!important; } Hi All,
When I am trying to hit Google.com it's redirecting me to Google.c
On 8/15/2016 07:29, Mike Hammett wrote:
Try more facts and less emotion.
I remember a day when I was banned from NANOG of less emotion and lots
more factual content.
- Original Message -
From: "HonorFirst Name Ethics via NANOG"
Red-flag line.
[much snippage has occurred]
A Zay
On 8/16/2016 21:13, William Herrin wrote:
On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 7:11 PM, Jonathan Hall wrote:
if I’m not mistaken (don’t worry, I’m not) - this doesn’t count
as ‘slander’ in any way, shape or form.
Jonathan,
Technically you're right, but not for the reason you think. Slander is
verbal d
On 8/29/2016 11:47, Steve Atkins wrote:
Unless your abuse / security desk is staffed by lawyers it's probably
better to avoid words like "criminal" and "unlawfully" altogether and
stick to "in violation of our ToS".
Or "in violation of your contract (which includes, by reference, our
TOS) w
On 8/30/2016 09:40, Keith Stokes wrote:
At one point in one data center I dealt with a disgruntled employee
hit the UPS disconnect button on the way out.
Same story, procedures modified, cover put over switch with a hammer
to break the glass, lessons learned, accounts credited.
A very long ti
On 8/30/2016 15:46, b...@theworld.com wrote:
About the worst that ever happened to me was a security guy's
walkie-talkie setting off an instant Halon drop. Cost about $10,000 to
refill and was fairly exciting for those present. That also cut the
machine room's power.
At least it didn't set of
On 9/17/2016 07:39, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
http://motherboard.vice.com/read/a-loud-sound-just-shut-down-a-banks-data-center-for-10-hours?utm_source=bbcfb
Releasing inert gas from fire suppression units that were over
pressurized resulted in an extremely loud noise
My experience is on
On 9/18/2016 08:19, Mike Hammett wrote:
People love to hate incumbent telcos because of their arrogance (and
frankly it's deserved), but people forget that big content can be
just as arrogant and just as deserving of hatred.
I never did see the benefit or the approach. To anybody.
--
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On 9/18/2016 16:26, Larry Sheldon wrote:
On 9/18/2016 08:19, Mike Hammett wrote:
People love to hate incumbent telcos because of their arrogance (and
frankly it's deserved), but people forget that big content can be
just as arrogant and just as deserving of hatred.
I never did se
On 10/3/2016 13:58, Stephen Satchell wrote:
In thinking over the last DDos involving IoT devices, I think we don't
have a good technical solution to the problem. Cutting off people with
defective devices they they don't understand, and have little control
over, is an action that makes sense, b
On 10/6/2016 15:26, Jesse McGraw wrote:
(This is me scratching an itch of my own and hoping that sharing it
might be useful to others on this list. Apologies if it isn't)
When I'm trying to comprehend a new or complicated Cisco router,
switch or firewall configuration an old pet-peeve of
On 10/23/2016 21:02, David Conrad wrote:
Shut down subnets of your own customers?
That was the problem I broke my pick on 20 years or more ago.
ISPs absolute refusal to put in filters at no-revenue-expense since it
would cost money to install and maintain, and worst of all MIGHT
conceivab
On 10/25/2016 08:26, Rich Kulawiec wrote:
On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 10:53:42PM -0700, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote:
Recent events, like the Krebs DDoS and the even bigger OVH DDoS, and
today's events make it perfectly clear to even the most blithering of
blithering idiots that network operators, en
On 10/27/2016 12:36, Nevin Gonsalves via NANOG wrote:
:-)
http://www.wsj.com/articles/centurylink-in-advanced-talks-to-merge-with-level-3-communications-1477589011
OH BOY! Omaha Taxpayers get to replace all the BGSs for their party
venue boondoggle. Again.
https://www.google.com/maps/pl
On 10/31/2016 14:42, William Herrin wrote:
On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 3:33 PM, Randy wrote:
Any idea how a traceroute (into my network) could end up this fubar'd?
Discovered this wierd routing while investigating horrendously slow speeds
(albeit no packet loss) to a particular ISP abroad.
Hi R
I avoided the other off charter bait, but this is a red dot to me.
On 11/6/2016 19:59, Patrick wrote:
Over at Language Hat, they are trying to establish the common
pronunciation of "read receipts" [1]
To me, they've always just been "DSNs" or "MDNs", however, according to
rfc2298, their history
I guess at long last it is time for Larry to stop thinking there was a
common interest here.
NANOG has gone completely into the weeds (my email client treats it as
political spam).
Sad--once upon a time it was a home for science in an insane academic world.
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On 2/1/2014 10:40 PM, Jima wrote:
+1. Cisco calls them Twinax, HP calls them DACs. I don't know what
anyone else calls them as it hasn't come up in conversation for me.
I thought "Twinax" was an IBMish MILSPEC term.
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On 2/2/2014 9:17 PM, ryang...@gmail.com wrote:
I'd hate to think that NetOps would be so heavy handed in blocking
all of UDP, as this would essentially halt quite a bit of audio/video
traffic. That being said, there's still quite the need for protocol
improvement when making use of UDP, but block
It has been a while since I have done anything with NTP, but I would start
with ntp.org (which didn't exist when I WAS working with it) which I am led
to believe has the stuff that used to be at U. Delaware, like the public
servers lists:
http://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Servers/WebHome
Where
After all these years I still can not get used to the non-standard NANOG
response to "reply". I wonder if there is a way for ne to fix that locally.
On 2/6/2014 8:49 AM, Larry Sheldon wrote:
On 2/6/2014 4:43 AM, Nick Hilliard wrote:
On 06/02/2014 10:03, Notify Me wrote:
I'm t
On 2/6/2014 9:02 AM, Nick Hilliard wrote:
On 06/02/2014 14:57, Larry Sheldon wrote:
http://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Servers/PublicTimeServer79
bear in mind that due to the vagaries of african peering weirdness, the
actual path from there to the OP's network could be over mul
On 2/6/2014 8:24 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote:
Mailing lists aren't *supposed* to set Reply-To, Larry; your mail client is
supposed to have a Reply To List command.
It does. And does not light up for most of the lists I am on (including
one I "own"). I am apparently not bright enough to notice wh
On 2/7/2014 1:26 PM, Livingood, Jason wrote:
I do not know what is happening in other jurisdictions.
I find that seriously scary, if wide-spread.
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On 2/7/2014 1:44 PM, Livingood, Jason wrote:
On 2/7/14, 2:30 PM, "Larry Sheldon" wrote:
On 2/7/2014 1:26 PM, Livingood, Jason wrote:
I do not know what is happening in other jurisdictions.
I find that seriously scary, if wide-spread.
Sorry - too many country-by-country reg
On 2/9/2014 2:45 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote:
Or do I understand NTP less well than I think?
I am of the private opinion that if your name is not "David Mill" (and
MAYBE if it IS) the answer is either "42" or "yes".
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On 2/9/2014 6:42 PM, James R Cutler wrote:
On Feb 9, 2014, at 3:50 PM, Larry Sheldon
wrote:
On 2/9/2014 2:45 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote:
Or do I understand NTP less well than I think?
I am of the private opinion that if your name is not "David Mill"
(and MAYBE if it IS) the answer
On 2/9/2014 7:04 PM, Larry Sheldon wrote:
In the 1990s I found myself administering a campus network for a
University--the only people less prepared than I as everybody else.
In the 1990s I found myself administering a campus network for a
University--the only people less prepared than I Was
On 2/14/2014 12:42 PM, Paul Ferguson wrote:
Taken to the logical extreme, the "right thing" to do is to deny any
spoofed traffic from abusing these services altogether.
Since the 1990s I have argued (ineffectively, it turns out) a case that
says that sentence can be edited down to good advanta
On 2/18/2014 11:20 AM, Jay Ashworth wrote:
Here's a piece which uses the MIT ANA data to assert that the job is
mostly done already.
Unless I'm very much mistaken, it appears that a large percentage of
the failed BCP 38 spoofing tests listed in that data are actually due
to customer side NAT rou
tions are still updating?
sa-update has run. and it runs cleanly
randy
From a posting on NANAE:
On 2/18/2014 6:09 PM, Larry Sheldon wrote:
Received: from [207.254.213.223] (helo=drone166.ral.icpbounce.com)
Larry, icpbounce.com is IContact aka Vocus. I don't know whether the
mana
On 2/24/2014 7:59 AM, vinny_abe...@dell.com wrote:
Dell - Internal Use - Confidential
You sent me this by mistake.
I have deleted all of the instances of it that know of.
Why does the NANOG forwarder forward these things?
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On 3/7/2014 5:03 AM, Rob Seastrom wrote:
for decades. i have a vague recollection of an rfc that said
secondary nameservers ought not be connected to the same psn (remember
those?) but my google fu fails me this early in the morning.
Packet Switch Node?
Not sure what would be in this context
On 3/12/2014 5:41 AM, Dobbins, Roland wrote:
TIINAL - The Internet Is Not A Lawyer.
NANOGINTI
There ARE rules in the environment, however. For example, there is one
that I am too lazy to look-up that argues for the use of a .sig
separator "-- ".
On 3/13/2014 8:22 AM, Sholes, Joshua wrote:
On 3/13/14, 12:35 AM, "shawn wilson" wrote:
A note on terminology - whether you know what you're doing, actually break
into a system, or obtain a thumb drive with data that you weren't supposed
to have - it has the same end so I'd refer to it by the s
On 3/15/2014 7:39 AM, Bob Evans wrote:
It's nice of the DoC to "relinquish" control, but I really don't see it
changing much other than quieting down some hype from countries that were
saying they were pissed at the US for "controlling" the Internet. And I
couldn't really see those countries doin
On 3/17/2014 9:10 PM, shawn wilson wrote:
The point is that 'computer security' involves innovation as much as
is done at hacker spaces (which can be geared to hardware or computer
security or whatever). I think the difference you're trying to argue
is the legality and not the task or process. I
On 3/18/2014 2:24 PM, Randy wrote:
I have a situation where a 208v/20A PDU (L6-20P) is supposedly hooked to
a 208v/30A circuit (L6-30R). Before I order the correct PDU's and whip
cords...sanity check...are connectors 'similar' enough that this is
possible (with force) or am I going to find we'v
On 3/19/2014 7:00 AM, Alex Rubenstein wrote:
Go look at any standard household lamp. It has a 5-15P on the end of
it, which could be plugged into an outlet rated for 20 amps (5-20R),
with 16 gauge lamp cord rated for 10 amps or less.
Mine all seem to be NEMA 1-15P, some (most?) with 18 AWG wire
On 3/20/2014 9:51 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:
The only way we will ever see real and true competition is if we
prohibit Layer 2+ providers from playing in the Layer 1 space.
As long as you have artificial impediments and restrictions, you will
have what you have today.
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On 3/20/2014 10:47 PM, David Miller wrote:
Unless I am reading the tea leaves wrong "competition" will require
"regulation".
"regulation" prevents "competition". That is why people want regulation.
Look at this thread at the people who do not want to be competed-with at
L1, for example.
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On 3/21/2014 9:13 AM, Sholes, Joshua wrote:> How do you get around the
problem of natural monopolies, then?
My strongly held belief is that if the "natural" monopoly* becomes
oppressive somebody in their garage will find another way, and absent
regulation and force of arms available to the "na
On 3/22/2014 12:24 PM, Frank Bulk wrote:
It's my understanding and experience that most gov't jurisdictions will give
CLECs and other telecommunication providers access to the RoW -- generally
speaking it's not exclusive to ILECs or MSOs. Now the challenge may be
finding room in the existing RoW
On 3/25/2014 11:53 AM, Bob Evans wrote:
I like term limits for every governing body - except when it's a company I
built with my money. :-)
I have absolutely no business jumping into this discussion, but it keeps
hammering on a topic that interests me in other venues: "term limits".
I am
On 3/25/2014 10:31 PM, Cutler James R wrote:
Wow, what a lot of NANOG traffic about IPv6 readiness for SMTP!
Please explain my misunderstanding on the following:
1. IPv6 is a Routing Layer Protocol (with some associated helpers, like RA,
ND, DHCP-PD, and the like).
2. SMTP is an Application
According to the Ace of Spades HQ blog:
IPv6 would allow every atom on the surface of the earth to have its
own IP address, with enough spare to do Earth 100+ times.
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On 3/25/2014 11:18 PM, John Levine wrote:
3. Arguing about IPv6 in the context of requirements upon SMTP connections is
playing that uncomfortable game with
ones own combat boots. And not particularly productive.
If you can figure out how to do effective spam filtering without
looking at th
On 3/26/2014 2:16 PM, Paul Ferguson wrote:
to a
paid service (e.g. "If you are not paying for a service, you are the
product.").
That needs to be engraved in the glass screens of every device, like the
"G.O.A.L" at the bottom of the rear-view mirror of some semi-truck tractors.
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On 3/27/2014 4:07 PM, Matt Palmer wrote:
On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 10:52:42AM -0600, kendrick eastes wrote:
The Full-disclosure mailing list was recently... retired, I guess cisco
thought NANOG was the next best place.
Nope, they've been sending these things here for as long as I can remember.
I
On 3/27/2014 11:57 PM, Randy Bush wrote:
Alexander Neilson wrote:
I wonder if they should be invited to only post a single message with
the titles and links to the alerts so that people can follow it up.
i would prefer that the header be in blue, the titles in green, and the
urls in magenta,
On 3/29/2014 12:43 AM, Mark Tinka wrote:
But clearly, this is one of those issues where you have a
good amount of folk on either side of the fence.
I wonder what the ratio of "I don't want that info here" (for various
values of "here") to "Geez! WHY didn't somebody tell me" is.
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On 3/29/2014 12:59 PM, Jimmy Hess wrote:
*Postage schemes as proposed with end users email clients 'attaching
postage' simply not workable Not in IPv4. Not in IPv6. Not in IPng
Not in any conceivable future version of IP.
And I insist that we are all wasting our time trying to make SMTP
On 3/30/2014 11:17 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
On Mar 30, 2014, at 16:40 , Måns Nilsson wrote:
Subject: Re: why IPv6 isn't ready for prime time, SMTP edition Date: Sat, Mar
29, 2014 at 11:06:11AM -0400 Quoting Patrick W. Gilmore (patr...@ianai.net):
On Mar 29, 2014, at 3:15, Måns Nilsson w
Offered for your amusement--no followup.
http://kottke.org/14/04/the-anternet
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On 4/9/2014 5:11 PM, bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com wrote:
On Wed, Apr 09, 2014 at 05:49:27PM -0400, Jeff Kell wrote:
The most "sane" out-of-mind response should only be sent *if* the
out-of-mind person is named explicitly as a recipient in the RFC822
header. Anything To: somelist@somehost does
On 4/9/2014 7:02 PM, Jeff Kell wrote:
On 4/9/2014 7:22 PM, Larry Sheldon wrote:
On 4/9/2014 5:11 PM, bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com wrote:
On Wed, Apr 09, 2014 at 05:49:27PM -0400, Jeff Kell wrote:
The most "sane" out-of-mind response should only be sent *if* the
out-of-mind perso
On 4/10/2014 6:29 AM, Rich Kulawiec wrote:
On Wed, Apr 09, 2014 at 05:15:59PM -0400, William Herrin wrote:
Maybe this is a good thing - we can stop getting all the "sorry I'm
out of the office" emails when posting to a list.
I entirely support that goal, but my preferred solution is the comple
On 4/11/2014 2:16 AM, Tei wrote:
So
Suppose I configure my email to send a "Thanks, we have received your
email, we will reply shortly in office hours.". Whats the Holy Headers
so even poorly configured servers don't cause a AutoReply Storm?
Googling, I found "Precedence", "X-Auto-Response-S
FWIIW
http://xkcd.com/1354/
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On 4/14/2014 9:38 AM, Matthew Black wrote:
Shouldn't a decent OS scrub RAM and disk sectors before allocating
them to processes, unless that process enters processor privileged
mode and sets a call flag? I recall digging through disk sectors on
RSTS/E to look for passwords and other interesting s
On 4/14/2014 2:59 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
Or we can flame anyone who tries, then wonder why no one is trying.
Amen.
I was just thinking, after reading the umpteenth message here about
spam, about the times in the 1990's that I was literally driven away
because I was trying to get ahe
On 4/14/2014 3:05 PM, William Herrin wrote:
I thought vendors existed primarily as a place to hang the blame when
dealing with a manager or customer who just doesn't get it.
Truth value very high. Humor value, less than none.
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On 4/14/2014 7:50 PM, John Levine wrote:
In article <534c68f4@cox.net> you write:
On 4/14/2014 9:38 AM, Matthew Black wrote:
Shouldn't a decent OS scrub RAM and disk sectors before allocating
them to processes, unless that process enters processor privileged
mode and sets a call flag? I rec
On 4/16/2014 11:17 AM, Andrew Koch wrote:
On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 11:43AM -0500, William Herrin wrote:
By the way, can we do something about this joker? I'm tired of
receiving his notice every time I post to NANOG.
Hi Bill and the NANOG mailing list,
The NANOG Communications Committee, reac
On 4/16/2014 4:34 PM, Jason Iannone wrote:
I can't cite chapter and verse but I seem to remember this zeroing
problem was solved decades ago by just introducing a bit which said
this chunk of memory or disk is new (to this process) and not zeroed
but if there's any attempt to actually access it t
On 4/16/2014 11:19 PM, Private Sender wrote:
Does that raise any alarms?
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On 4/23/2014 12:45 AM, Grant Ridder wrote:
Thought i would throw this out there.
http://postmaster-blog.aol.com/2014/04/22/aol-mail-updates-dmarc-policy-to-reject/
Bet THAT will get Yahoo's attention!
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On 4/24/2014 10:23 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
The invisible hand of the market cannot fix problems when there is a monopoly.
Put in economic terms, a player with Market Power is extracting Rents.
(Capitalization is intentional.)
Regulating monopolies allows a market to work, not the opposit
On 4/24/2014 10:44 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
On Apr 24, 2014, at 23:38 , Larry Sheldon
wrote:
On 4/24/2014 10:23 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
The invisible hand of the market cannot fix problems when there
is a monopoly.
Put in economic terms, a player with Market Power is extracting
On 4/24/2014 11:01 PM, Everton Marques wrote:
On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 12:44 AM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
On Apr 24, 2014, at 23:38 , Larry Sheldon wrote:
Regulating monopolies protects monopolies from competition.
Monopolies can not persist without regulation.
You are confused.
I
On 4/24/2014 11:37 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
The fact there are "regulated monopolies" does not mean regulation
cannot be used to keep a monopoly from forming. And using a turn of
phrase to prove a point of logic and/or history is a pretty sad
argument. Yeah, the phrase "regulated monopoly" e
I just posted a completely empty message for which I apologize.
Larry is confused. He can claim he is not, but posting to NANOG does
not change the facts. Then again, just because I posted to NANOG
doesn't prove I'm right either. Worst of all, this thread is pretty
non-operational now.
In a pr
On 4/25/2014 8:23 AM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
On Apr 25, 2014, at 00:57 , Larry Sheldon
wrote:
I just posted a completely empty message for which I apologize.
Larry is confused. He can claim he is not, but posting to NANOG
does not change the facts. Then again, just because I posted to
On 4/25/2014 9:13 AM, Daniel Taylor wrote:
DeBeers Diamond cartel, which operated internationally and held an
effective monopoly on the diamond market for *decades* was apparently
beyond the reach of regulation to either assist or hinder them, and has
only recently faded somewhat in the face of
On 4/26/2014 3:01 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:
On Apr 24, 2014, at 8:38 PM, Larry Sheldon
wrote:
Monopolies can not persist without regulation.
This is absolutely false. Regulating monopolies CAN protect
monopolies, but that’s not always the outcome.
Monopolies absolutely can persist without
On 4/26/2014 3:11 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:
In my neighborhood, Comcast has a monopoly on coax cable tv and HFC
internet services. There are no regulations that support that
monopoly. Another company could, theoretically, apply, receive
permits,
Wait! What?
Like if I want to build a pipeline to
h/t Suresh Ramasubramanian
FCC throws in the towel on net neutrality
http://www.zdnet.com/fcc-throws-in-the-towel-on-net-neutrality-728770/
Forward! On to the next windmill, Sancho!
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On 4/26/2014 8:56 PM, James R Cutler wrote:
To an engineer, that _IS_ attractive.
Amen. Also to engineer wannabees.
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On 4/27/2014 8:59 PM, goe...@anime.net wrote:
If the carriers now get to play packet favoritism and pay-for-play, they
should lose common carrier protections.
I didn't think the Internet providers were common carriers.
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On 4/28/2014 12:32 PM, Barry Shein wrote:
On April 27, 2014 at 21:56 larryshel...@cox.net (Larry Sheldon) wrote:
> On 4/27/2014 8:59 PM, goe...@anime.net wrote:
> > If the carriers now get to play packet favoritism and pay-for-play, they
> > should lose common carr
On 4/30/2014 11:30 AM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:
On Wed, 30 Apr 2014 15:40:43 -, Jamie Bowden said:
You're not funny. And if you're not joking, you're wrong. We just went over
this on this very list two weeks ago.
And in that discussion, we ascertained that what the PCI standard ac
On 5/6/2014 10:39 AM, Drew Weaver wrote:
Just something to think about before it becomes a story the community
talks about for the next decade.
Like we have for the last two?
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On 5/14/2014 4:27 AM, Roland Dobbins wrote:
On May 14, 2014, at 3:11 PM, Matthew Petach
wrote:
I'm constantly amazed at how access networks think they can charge
2/3 the price of full transit for just their routes when they
represent less than 1/10th of the overall traffic volume.
My guess
On 5/20/2014 9:30 AM, Leo Vegoda wrote:
https://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-recovered-address-space/ipv4-recovered
-address-space.xhtml#ipv4-recovered-address-space-2
Comes up 404 here.
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On 5/21/2014 1:50 PM, Darryl Dunkin wrote:
Did you just click the link? It got wrapped.
Yes as a matter if fact I did--and noticed the truncation and cut and
pasted it--and it still failed.
http://bit.ly/1k5ROJW
That works. As does a newly submitted cut-and-paste.
Mystery.
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On 5/21/2014 4:21 PM, Tony Wicks wrote:
Deploy v6... yes its very easy ...
The system is fully automated, and if you carefully follow instructions,
life will be wonderful and nothing can possibly go wronand
nothing can possibly go wronand nothing can possibly go
wronand nothing can possib
On 5/23/2014 1:09 PM, Barry Shein wrote:
On May 24, 2014 at 00:38 rdobb...@arbor.net (Roland Dobbins) wrote:
> Never, under any circumstances, pay. Not even if you've persuaded
> the Men from U.N.C.L.E. to help you, and they suggest you pay
> because they think they can trace the money, d
Odd that "comics.com" is dead and "gocomics.com" is "down for Scheduled
Maintenance" at 2000 Central USA time.
No the Intertubes are not down--lots of stuff is working, but those and
some others are not. (Cox customer out of Omaha).
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On 5/23/2014 9:00 PM, Larry Sheldon wrote:
Odd that "comics.com" is dead and "gocomics.com" is "down for Scheduled
Maintenance" at 2000 Central USA time.
No the Intertubes are not down--lots of stuff is working, but those and
some others are not. (Cox cu
On 5/24/2014 11:29 AM, Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. wrote:
Law enforcement and victims have different objectives. Law
enforcement wants to find the criminal, gather sufficient evidence
to prove their guilt, then prosecute them. More attacks helps law
enforcement.
The victims, in general, want the
On 6/4/2014 10:29 PM, Jared Mauch wrote:
The answers you want are:
1) it was not worth the whole list
2) warren wants to hassle me on my birthday at IETF. If you are there, please
do say hello in person.
Everyone else, sorry for the noise and hope you are entertained.
%^)
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