Re: Merit RADB support

2017-06-07 Thread Andree Toonk
Hi Chuck,

My secret spy satellite informs me that Chuck Anderson wrote On
2017-06-07, 5:21 PM:

> Apologies to Merit RADB, it was BGPmon that never responds.  Merit
> RADB actually does respond--my frustration is more about the
> difficulty in getting them to delete stale objects that others
> registered, although I was finally able to get my objects cleaned up.

Happy to look into this for you. We should (and normally do) follow-up
on all support requests (support @ bgpmon).

Regarding route objects:
BGPmon syncs twice a day with all IRRs for route objects. Route objects
that haven't been seen in the IRR for more than 48 hours are deleted
from our local database (cache so we don't hammer the IRR).

Could be a bug, happy to look into this but the issues doesn't
immediately ring a bell.

I'll reach out to you off-list as well to see what's going on.

Cheers
 Andree (BGPmon)




RE: Merit RADB support

2017-06-07 Thread Eric Krichbaum
That's an inherent problem with the IRR system (and I am still a big
proponent).  There is every operational benefit from entering an object. The
object augments policy.  But, what is the benefit of removing an object?  It
doesn't operationally benefit (size of prefix lists, etc. aside) anything.
I would prefer that people who proxy register, also proxy delete when
services are terminated. If wishes were horses

Eric


-Original Message-
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Anderson
Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2017 11:22 AM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Merit RADB support

On Wed, Jun 07, 2017 at 12:08:50PM -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 07, 2017 at 10:41:16AM -0500, Kaiser, Erich wrote:
> > Anyone gonna email me back from RADB support?
> 
> In my experience, no.

Apologies to Merit RADB, it was BGPmon that never responds.  Merit RADB
actually does respond--my frustration is more about the difficulty in
getting them to delete stale objects that others registered, although I was
finally able to get my objects cleaned up.


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RE: Merit RADB support

2017-06-07 Thread Erik Sundberg
For RADB, I was able to get them to delete a stale object 2 weeks ago. Only had 
to copy them on an email to the original source and wait 24 hours. I wish it 
was less because we are the netblock owner of the stale route object in 
question.


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-Original Message-
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Anderson
Sent: Wednesday, June 7, 2017 11:22 AM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Merit RADB support

On Wed, Jun 07, 2017 at 12:08:50PM -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 07, 2017 at 10:41:16AM -0500, Kaiser, Erich wrote:
> > Anyone gonna email me back from RADB support?
>
> In my experience, no.

Apologies to Merit RADB, it was BGPmon that never responds.  Merit RADB 
actually does respond--my frustration is more about the difficulty in getting 
them to delete stale objects that others registered, although I was finally 
able to get my objects cleaned up.



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Re: Merit RADB support

2017-06-07 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Wed, Jun 07, 2017 at 12:08:50PM -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 07, 2017 at 10:41:16AM -0500, Kaiser, Erich wrote:
> > Anyone gonna email me back from RADB support?
> 
> In my experience, no.

Apologies to Merit RADB, it was BGPmon that never responds.  Merit
RADB actually does respond--my frustration is more about the
difficulty in getting them to delete stale objects that others
registered, although I was finally able to get my objects cleaned up.