Re: .bv ccTLD

2021-12-06 Thread Jay Hennigan
On 12/6/21 10:22, Owen DeLong via NANOG wrote: I’m an American, yet I know full well what SS meant in the 1940s, which is what I presume is alluded to here. I think it is safe to say that WWII is the history of people well beyond just Europe. There are going to be negative connotations to

Re: .bv ccTLD

2021-12-06 Thread Owen DeLong via NANOG
> On Dec 5, 2021, at 10:59 PM, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > > On Sat, Dec 04, 2021 at 10:20:16AM -0500, > Jay Ashworth wrote > a message of 121 lines which said: > >> Oh dear. They actually gave them .SS? > > It's an european reference. For the local people, this 2-letters code > probably

Re: .bv ccTLD

2021-12-05 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Sat, Dec 04, 2021 at 10:20:16AM -0500, Jay Ashworth wrote a message of 121 lines which said: > Oh dear. They actually gave them .SS? It's an european reference. For the local people, this 2-letters code probably means nothing special, it is not their history. (I assume that the there is

Re: .bv ccTLD

2021-12-05 Thread John Levine
It appears that Jay R. Ashworth said: >- Original Message - >> From: "Jaap Akkerhuis" > >> Similar ideas where held for MD and TM but didn'y seem to work >> out. Furthermore, an indepent Bougainville mighs change the name >> to something else (as Zimbabwe did). > >On reflection, I don't

Re: .bv ccTLD

2021-12-05 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
- Original Message - > From: "Jaap Akkerhuis" > Similar ideas where held for MD and TM but didn'y seem to work > out. Furthermore, an indepent Bougainville mighs change the name > to something else (as Zimbabwe did). On reflection, I don't think .inc has played all that well either. As

Re: .bv ccTLD

2021-12-04 Thread Nick Hilliard
Jaap Akkerhuis wrote on 04/12/2021 21:13: Similar ideas where held for MD and TM but didn'y seem to work out. Furthermore, an indepent Bougainville mighs change the name to something else (as Zimbabwe did). this is not unusual: .tp became one of the shortest-lived cctlds, and was dropped in

Re: .bv ccTLD

2021-12-04 Thread Jaap Akkerhuis
"John Levine" writes: > It appears that Jay R. Ashworth said: > >Well, sure, but with the copper deposit measured in double-digit billions, > >it seems sane to assume they've got a plan there... > > It's been 30 years. We can hope but I wouldn't hold my breath. > > >Though given .TV's

Re: .bv ccTLD

2021-12-04 Thread Cynthia Revström via NANOG
It does seem like the rest of the story to me. If the government said no, then that is pretty much it, that is the end of the story regardless of what reason given. (Assuming that it was done correctly and that laws regarding it don't change that is) -Cynthia On Sat, Dec 4, 2021 at 5:35 PM Jay

Re: .bv ccTLD

2021-12-04 Thread Cynthia Revström via NANOG
On Sat, Dec 4, 2021 at 5:03 PM Carsten Bormann wrote: > > On 2021-12-04, at 16:18, Cynthia Revström via NANOG wrote: > > > > I think pretty much all codes ending in an X is because there were no > > better ones available. (I am not certain on this part though) > > I don’t think the Mexicans

Re: .bv ccTLD

2021-12-04 Thread John Levine
It appears that Jay R. Ashworth said: >Well, sure, but with the copper deposit measured in double-digit billions, >it seems sane to assume they've got a plan there... It's been 30 years. We can hope but I wouldn't hold my breath. >Though given .TV's benefits to Tuvalu, and the number of

Re: .bv ccTLD

2021-12-04 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
- Original Message - > From: "Bjørn Mork" > The rest of the story is here: > https://www.norid.no/en/aktuelt/plans-to-utilize-bv-shelved-en/ Sadly, that's not really The Rest... Of The Story. Sounds like the government regulator nixed it, giving *no reason at all*. Cheers, -- jra --

Re: .bv ccTLD

2021-12-04 Thread Hank Nussbacher
On 04/12/2021 00:45, Jay R. Ashworth wrote: My favorite youtuber has just pointed out that Bougainville will separate formally from Papua New Guinea in 2027, which, surprisingly, is only 5 or 6 years from now. So I looked up .bv, and of course... it's assigned to Bouvet Island, an uninhabited

Re: .bv ccTLD

2021-12-04 Thread Bjørn Mork
Jaap Akkerhuis writes: > SIDN and NORID once considered to market .BV together: > The rest of the story is here: https://www.norid.no/en/aktuelt/plans-to-utilize-bv-shelved-en/ Bjørn

Re: .bv ccTLD

2021-12-04 Thread Carsten Bormann
On 2021-12-04, at 16:18, Cynthia Revström via NANOG wrote: > > I think pretty much all codes ending in an X is because there were no > better ones available. (I am not certain on this part though) I don’t think the Mexicans would agree :-) .bx (Benelux) is reserved only, but it is another

Re: .bv ccTLD

2021-12-04 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
- Original Message - > From: "Jaap Akkerhuis" > It is no makred as reserved but assigned. So this sentence in the wikipedia article: "The domain remains reserved for potential future use. " speaks from the viewpoint of NORID, not of the MA. Got it. Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth

Re: .bv ccTLD

2021-12-04 Thread Jay Ashworth
Oh dear. They actually gave them .SS? Wow. On December 4, 2021 10:18:26 AM EST, "Cynthia Revström" wrote: >Hi, > >Not only is the ISO 3166-1 alpha-2 code assigned but the ccTLD is >delegated to NORID's nameservers. >NORID also makes it pretty clear that they are not interested in >selling the

Re: .bv ccTLD

2021-12-04 Thread Cynthia Revström via NANOG
Hi, Not only is the ISO 3166-1 alpha-2 code assigned but the ccTLD is delegated to NORID's nameservers. NORID also makes it pretty clear that they are not interested in selling the TLD, and I suspect that might very well mirror the position of the Norwegian government. While something like

Re: .bv ccTLD

2021-12-04 Thread Jaap Akkerhuis
"Jay R. Ashworth" writes: > - Original Message - > > From: "David Conrad" > > > Jay, > > > > On Dec 3, 2021, at 4:46 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote: > >> In general I could I understand that, but it is my understanding that the > >> domain > >> is still marked reserved at the

Re: .bv ccTLD

2021-12-04 Thread Jaap Akkerhuis
David Conrad writes: > Jay, > > On Dec 3, 2021, at 4:46 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote: > > In general I could I understand that, but it is my understanding that = > the domain is still marked reserved at the Secretariat, > > Sorry, which secretariat? I'm curious about that secretariat as well.

Re: .bv ccTLD

2021-12-04 Thread Jaap Akkerhuis
Sabri Berisha writes: > - On Dec 3, 2021, at 2:45 PM, Jay R. Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote: > > Hi, > > > NORID might try to make a case that BV is the common corporate abbreviation > > in their political subdivision... > > Same for .nl. Most people on this list will be familiar

Re: .bv ccTLD

2021-12-03 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
- Original Message - > From: "John Levine" > I suspect the Bougainvillians (Bougainvillains?) have a few more urgent topics > to attend to. The island's only significant asset is a huge copper mine which > has been closed since 1989 when the civil war started. If they can't figure >

Re: .bv ccTLD

2021-12-03 Thread John Levine
According to Jay R. Ashworth : >- Original Message - >> From: "John Levine" > >> There's over 300 unassigned codes to choose from. GV or UV perhaps? > >I'm sure *I* would fight for a 3166 code that started with the first letter >of my country name. But it's not my country, so my

Re: .bv ccTLD

2021-12-03 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
- Original Message - > From: "John Levine" > There's over 300 unassigned codes to choose from. GV or UV perhaps? I'm sure *I* would fight for a 3166 code that started with the first letter of my country name. But it's not my country, so my concerns are esthetic, and academic (in

Re: .bv ccTLD

2021-12-03 Thread Sabri Berisha
- On Dec 3, 2021, at 2:45 PM, Jay R. Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote: Hi, > NORID might try to make a case that BV is the common corporate abbreviation > in their political subdivision... Same for .nl. Most people on this list will be familiar with AMS-IX BV. Thanks, Sabri

Re: .bv ccTLD

2021-12-03 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
- Original Message - > From: "David Conrad" > Jay, > > On Dec 3, 2021, at 4:46 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote: >> In general I could I understand that, but it is my understanding that the >> domain >> is still marked reserved at the Secretariat, > > Sorry, which secretariat? As far as I

Re: .bv ccTLD

2021-12-03 Thread David Conrad
Jay, On Dec 3, 2021, at 4:46 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote: > In general I could I understand that, but it is my understanding that the > domain is still marked reserved at the Secretariat, Sorry, which secretariat? As far as I know, the official status of ISO 3166-1 Alpha 2 codes is specified by

Re: .bv ccTLD

2021-12-03 Thread John Levine
It appears that David Conrad said: >> Anyone here got a buddy on the secretariat? :-) > >Even if they did, transitioning codes is a long (99 year? I’ve forgotten) >process… It's only 50, but yeah, it's not changing any time soon. There's over 300 unassigned codes to choose from. GV or UV

Re: .bv ccTLD

2021-12-03 Thread Jay Ashworth
In general I could I understand that, but it is my understanding that the domain is still marked reserved at the Secretariat, which is to say they could not have assigned any domains in it yet, even if they were inclined to which we are told they are not. In short, I think this is a

Re: .bv ccTLD

2021-12-03 Thread David Conrad
On Dec 3, 2021, at 2:45 PM, Jay R. Ashworth wrote: > So, what's the actual status of .bv? Assigned, or reserved? Assigned: https://www.iso.org/obp/ui/#iso:code:3166:BV > Anyone here got a buddy on the secretariat? :-) Even if they did,