Re: Amazon now controls 3.0.0.0/8

2018-11-20 Thread Anurag Bhatia 
A large part of those peerings appears across various tools because people
(mistakenly) just use "1" in prepends (and for that matter AS2 and AS3 as
well). We looked at that data a while back and there was a very high amount
of noise around that ASN.



On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 8:16 AM Ross Tajvar  wrote:

> Speaking of AS1 - I've been wondering, what's it being used for? It looks
> like Level3 owns it, and it's announcing a handful of prefixes and peering
> with a bunch of random ASes from many different countries.
>
> On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 9:19 PM, Steve Meuse  wrote:
>
>>
>> John Orthoefer and I (and dozens of other BBN folks on this list) both
>> worked for BBNPlanet at the time that 4.2.2.1 and 4.2.2.2 were assigned.
>> John was one of the folks who built and ran that system.
>>
>> So when he said "I wish we could have used 4.4.4.4" and my comment of "I
>> think the dial modem folks beat us to..." was referring to the fact that
>> when 4/8 was first being deployed on AS1 we started assigning blocks to
>> various groups and they realized that 4.4.4.0/XX had already been
>> delegated to another internal group (I think it was the dial group).
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 8:45 PM Tom Beecher  wrote:
>>
>>> 4.0.0.0/8 has been GTE/Level3 forever.
>>>
>>> 4.2.2.1 - 6 have been L3 DNS as far back as I can remember.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 8:32 PM Todd Underwood 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 google used 4.4.4.4 for DNS in the past (2010, IIRC).

 t

 On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 8:21 PM Steve Meuse  wrote:

>
> I think it was the dial modem team that beat us to 4.4.4.0/24?
>
> -Steve
>
> On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 7:44 PM John Orthoefer 
> wrote:
>
>> I wish we could have used 4.4.4.4. Although at the time I suspect we
>> would have used 4.4.4.[123].
>>
>> Johno
>>
>> On Nov 8, 2018, at 18:58, Matt Erculiani 
>> wrote:
>>
>> So it looks like GE will be solvent for a few more years and 3.3.3.3
>> DNS is incoming.
>>
>> -Matt
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 8, 2018, 17:54 Eric Kuhnke >
>>> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18407173
>>>
>>> Quoting from the post:
>>>
>>> "
>>>
>>> Apparently bought in two chunks: 3.0.0.0/9 and 3.128.0.0/9.
>>>
>>> Previous owner was GE.
>>>
>>> Anecdotal reports across the Internet that AWS EIPs are now being
>>> assigned in that range.
>>>
>>> https://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-3-0-0-0-1.html
>>>
>>> https://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-3-128-0-0-1.html
>>> "
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>

-- 


Anurag Bhatia
anuragbhatia.com

Re: Amazon now controls 3.0.0.0/8

2018-11-12 Thread Kenneth Finnegan 
On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 3:58 PM Job Snijders  wrote:
> Seems ALTDB should delete the old AS 80 / GE IRR proxy route registration:
> http://irrexplorer.nlnog.net/search/3.0.0.0

Done.

For anyone else who is suffering from their prefixes malingering in
ALTDB from previous users and has ultimately failed to resolve the
issue with the maintainer of the object, you can escalate the matter
to the db-ad...@altdb.net alias. We have recently started a cleanup
effort of the ALTDB database to improve the quality of the routing
information present in it.

--
Kenneth Finnegan
ALTDB Admin

Re: Amazon now controls 3.0.0.0/8

2018-11-12 Thread Dalton, Paul P [CTO] 
Remember when AS 1 was Genuity?  First BGP session I ever set-up was with AS 1.

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Speaking of AS1 - I've been wondering, what's it being used for? It looks like 
Level3 owns it, and it's announcing a handful of prefixes and peering with a 
bunch of random ASes from many different countries.

On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 9:19 PM, Steve Meuse 
mailto:sme...@mara.org>> wrote:

John Orthoefer and I (and dozens of other BBN folks on this list) both worked 
for BBNPlanet at the time that 4.2.2.1 and 4.2.2.2 were assigned. John was one 
of the folks who built and ran that system.

So when he said "I wish we could have used 4.4.4.4" and my comment of "I think 
the dial modem folks beat us to..." was referring to the fact that when 4/8 was 
first being deployed on AS1 we started assigning blocks to various groups and 
they realized that 
4.4.4.0/XX<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2F4.4.4.0%2FXX=02%7C01%7Cpaul.dalton%40sprint.com%7Caf9b460440684d62ebfa08d645ed7a98%7C4f8bc0acbd784bf5b55f1b31301d9adf%7C0%7C0%7C636773283600111541=jfL%2FllncZlcRgdY1CdDjC5ueGio02dDgP4tlslqPzLU%3D=0>
 had already been delegated to another internal group (I think it was the dial 
group).



On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 8:45 PM Tom Beecher  wrote:
4.0.0.0/8<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2F4.0.0.0%2F8=02%7C01%7Cpaul.dalton%40sprint.com%7Caf9b460440684d62ebfa08d645ed7a98%7C4f8bc0acbd784bf5b55f1b31301d9adf%7C0%7C0%7C636773283600111541=ggblju816KE%2F8TWMXEKUYmpACyy1vH54uRD0dBCCOtk%3D=0>
 has been GTE/Level3 forever.

4.2.2.1 - 6 have been L3 DNS as far back as I can remember.

On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 8:32 PM Todd Underwood 
mailto:toddun...@gmail.com>> wrote:
google used 4.4.4.4 for DNS in the past (2010, IIRC).

t

On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 8:21 PM Steve Meuse 
mailto:sme...@mara.org>> wrote:

I think it was the dial modem team that beat us to 
4.4.4.0/24<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2F4.4.4.0%2F24=02%7C01%7Cpaul.dalton%40sprint.com%7Caf9b460440684d62ebfa08d645ed7a98%7C4f8bc0acbd784bf5b55f1b31301d9adf%7C0%7C0%7C636773283600111541=omZw5JrEbg7yJeNd%2BhwNMVDz6mMAX4C0%2FuzJ5M2VObk%3D=0>?

-Steve

On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 7:44 PM John Orthoefer 
mailto:j...@direwolf.com>> wrote:
I wish we could have used 4.4.4.4. Although at the time I suspect we would have 
used 4.4.4.[123].

Johno

On Nov 8, 2018, at 18:58, Matt Erculiani 
mailto:merculi...@gmail.com>> wrote:

So it looks like GE will be solvent for a few more years and 3.3.3.3 DNS is 
incoming.

-Matt

On Thu, Nov 8, 2018, 17:54 Eric Kuhnke 
mailto:eric.kuh...@gmail.com> wrote:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18407173<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fnews.ycombinator.com%2Fitem%3Fid%3D18407173=02%7C01%7Cpaul.dalton%40sprint.com%7Caf9b460440684d62ebfa08d645ed7a98%7C4f8bc0acbd784bf5b55f1b31301d9adf%7C0%7C0%7C636773283600111541=dMAKpJXW3ns4K5X6KZAROOhTlPTmHKYvweIsjs7Ot90%3D=0>

Quoting from the post:

"

Apparently bought in two chunks: 
3.0.0.0/9<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2F3.0.0.0%2F9=02%7C01%7Cpaul.dalton%40sprint.com%7Caf9b460440684d62ebfa08d645ed7a98%7C4f8bc0acbd784bf5b55f1b31301d9adf%7C0%7C0%7C636773283600111541=Ge2tXIZCF3fJB9fpwBjG58CUFf%2FPYtAKeosqIIF3JKQ%3D=0>
 and 
3.128.0.0/9<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2F3.128.0.0%2F9=02%7C01%7Cpaul.dalton%40sprint.com%7Caf9b460440684d62ebfa08d645ed7a98%7C4f8bc0acbd784bf5b55f1b31301d9adf%7C0%7C0%7C636773283600111541=ncpEmnLx%2BWDOIkwMB%2FdR%2FsKmGUJYLLJTvVJL4uUbk%2BI%3D=0>.

Previous owner was GE.

Anecdotal reports across the Internet that AWS EIPs are now being assigned in 
that range.

https://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-3-0-0-0-1.html<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwhois.arin.net%2Frest%2Fnet%2FNET-3-0-0-0-1.html=02%7C01%7Cpaul.dalton%40sprint.com%7Caf9b460440684d62ebfa08d645ed7a98%7C4f8bc0acbd784bf5b55f1b31301d9adf%7C0%7C0%7C636773283600267787=PPPGSPw3awgQHufOUEZ837KloMCbBKHbm72WXTIwfuI%3D=0>

https://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-3-128-0-0-1.html<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwhois.arin.net%2Frest%2Fnet%2FNET-3-128-0-0-1.html=02%7C01%7Cpaul.dalton%40sprint.com%7Caf9b460440684d62ebfa08d645ed7a98%7C4f8bc0acbd784bf5b55f1b31301d9adf%7C0%7C0%7C636773283600267787=hadTxFotL%2BctXNNDmthB5EGlapJZHfv1m4js3uwYHN4%3D=0>


"

Re: Amazon now controls 3.0.0.0/8

2018-11-12 Thread Tom Hill 
On 09/11/2018 00:46, Eric Kuhnke wrote:
> 3.4.5.6/24  could be an interesting block to put
> easily memorable IP services in...


My upbringing in the 90s makes '5.6.7.8' far more memorable. :)

-- 
Tom

Re: Amazon now controls 3.0.0.0/8

2018-11-09 Thread Javier Henderson 


> On Nov 8, 2018, at 15:56, Job Snijders  wrote:
> 
>> On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 0:54 Eric Kuhnke  wrote:
> 
>> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18407173
>> 
>> Quoting from the post:
>> 
>> "
>> 
>> Apparently bought in two chunks: 3.0.0.0/9 and 3.128.0.0/9.
>> Previous owner was GE.
>> 
>> Anecdotal reports across the Internet that AWS EIPs are now being assigned 
>> in that range.
>> 
>> https://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-3-0-0-0-1.html
>> 
>> https://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-3-128-0-0-1.html
>> 
>> "
> 
> 
> Seems ALTDB should delete the old AS 80 / GE IRR proxy route registration: 
> http://irrexplorer.nlnog.net/search/3.0.0.0

It’s been done. 

-jav

Re: Amazon now controls 3.0.0.0/8

2018-11-08 Thread Steve Meuse 
It's still in use, I believe Level(3)/CenturyLink uses it for either their
VPN or Voice network.

-Steve

On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 9:44 PM Ross Tajvar  wrote:

> Speaking of AS1 - I've been wondering, what's it being used for? It looks
> like Level3 owns it, and it's announcing a handful of prefixes and peering
> with a bunch of random ASes from many different countries.
>
> On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 9:19 PM, Steve Meuse  wrote:
>
>>
>> John Orthoefer and I (and dozens of other BBN folks on this list) both
>> worked for BBNPlanet at the time that 4.2.2.1 and 4.2.2.2 were assigned.
>> John was one of the folks who built and ran that system.
>>
>> So when he said "I wish we could have used 4.4.4.4" and my comment of "I
>> think the dial modem folks beat us to..." was referring to the fact that
>> when 4/8 was first being deployed on AS1 we started assigning blocks to
>> various groups and they realized that 4.4.4.0/XX had already been
>> delegated to another internal group (I think it was the dial group).
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 8:45 PM Tom Beecher  wrote:
>>
>>> 4.0.0.0/8 has been GTE/Level3 forever.
>>>
>>> 4.2.2.1 - 6 have been L3 DNS as far back as I can remember.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 8:32 PM Todd Underwood 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 google used 4.4.4.4 for DNS in the past (2010, IIRC).

 t

 On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 8:21 PM Steve Meuse  wrote:

>
> I think it was the dial modem team that beat us to 4.4.4.0/24?
>
> -Steve
>
> On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 7:44 PM John Orthoefer 
> wrote:
>
>> I wish we could have used 4.4.4.4. Although at the time I suspect we
>> would have used 4.4.4.[123].
>>
>> Johno
>>
>> On Nov 8, 2018, at 18:58, Matt Erculiani 
>> wrote:
>>
>> So it looks like GE will be solvent for a few more years and 3.3.3.3
>> DNS is incoming.
>>
>> -Matt
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 8, 2018, 17:54 Eric Kuhnke >
>>> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18407173
>>>
>>> Quoting from the post:
>>>
>>> "
>>>
>>> Apparently bought in two chunks: 3.0.0.0/9 and 3.128.0.0/9.
>>>
>>> Previous owner was GE.
>>>
>>> Anecdotal reports across the Internet that AWS EIPs are now being
>>> assigned in that range.
>>>
>>> https://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-3-0-0-0-1.html
>>>
>>> https://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-3-128-0-0-1.html
>>> "
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>

Re: Amazon now controls 3.0.0.0/8

2018-11-08 Thread Ross Tajvar 
Speaking of AS1 - I've been wondering, what's it being used for? It looks
like Level3 owns it, and it's announcing a handful of prefixes and peering
with a bunch of random ASes from many different countries.

On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 9:19 PM, Steve Meuse  wrote:

>
> John Orthoefer and I (and dozens of other BBN folks on this list) both
> worked for BBNPlanet at the time that 4.2.2.1 and 4.2.2.2 were assigned.
> John was one of the folks who built and ran that system.
>
> So when he said "I wish we could have used 4.4.4.4" and my comment of "I
> think the dial modem folks beat us to..." was referring to the fact that
> when 4/8 was first being deployed on AS1 we started assigning blocks to
> various groups and they realized that 4.4.4.0/XX had already been
> delegated to another internal group (I think it was the dial group).
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 8:45 PM Tom Beecher  wrote:
>
>> 4.0.0.0/8 has been GTE/Level3 forever.
>>
>> 4.2.2.1 - 6 have been L3 DNS as far back as I can remember.
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 8:32 PM Todd Underwood 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> google used 4.4.4.4 for DNS in the past (2010, IIRC).
>>>
>>> t
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 8:21 PM Steve Meuse  wrote:
>>>

 I think it was the dial modem team that beat us to 4.4.4.0/24?

 -Steve

 On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 7:44 PM John Orthoefer  wrote:

> I wish we could have used 4.4.4.4. Although at the time I suspect we
> would have used 4.4.4.[123].
>
> Johno
>
> On Nov 8, 2018, at 18:58, Matt Erculiani  wrote:
>
> So it looks like GE will be solvent for a few more years and 3.3.3.3
> DNS is incoming.
>
> -Matt
>
> On Thu, Nov 8, 2018, 17:54 Eric Kuhnke 
>> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18407173
>>
>> Quoting from the post:
>>
>> "
>>
>> Apparently bought in two chunks: 3.0.0.0/9 and 3.128.0.0/9.
>>
>> Previous owner was GE.
>>
>> Anecdotal reports across the Internet that AWS EIPs are now being
>> assigned in that range.
>>
>> https://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-3-0-0-0-1.html
>>
>> https://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-3-128-0-0-1.html
>> "
>>
>>
>>
>>

Re: Amazon now controls 3.0.0.0/8

2018-11-08 Thread Matt Perkins 

3.141.59.27  might be handy.


Matt

On 9/11/18 1:22 pm, Dan Lowe wrote:

Maybe Amazon will do something cool with 3.1.33.7 ...

dan


On Thu, Nov 8, 2018, at 8:30 PM, Todd Underwood wrote:

google used 4.4.4.4 for DNS in the past (2010, IIRC).

t

On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 8:21 PM Steve Meuse > wrote:



I think it was the dial modem team that beat us to 4.4.4.0/24
?

-Steve

On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 7:44 PM John Orthoefer mailto:j...@direwolf.com>> wrote:


I wish we could have used 4.4.4.4. Although at the time I
suspect we would have used 4.4.4.[123].

Johno

On Nov 8, 2018, at 18:58, Matt Erculiani
mailto:merculi...@gmail.com>> wrote:

So it looks like GE will be solvent for a few more years and
3.3.3.3 DNS is incoming.

-Matt

On Thu, Nov 8, 2018, 17:54 Eric Kuhnke
mailto:eric.kuh...@gmail.com> wrote:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18407173

Quoting from the post:

"


Apparently bought in two chunks: 3.0.0.0/9
 and 3.128.0.0/9 .

Previous owner was GE.

Anecdotal reports across the Internet that AWS EIPs are
now being assigned in that range.

https://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-3-0-0-0-1.html

https://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-3-128-0-0-1.html

"







--
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Re: Amazon now controls 3.0.0.0/8

2018-11-08 Thread Dan Lowe 
Maybe Amazon will do something cool with 3.1.33.7 ...

dan


On Thu, Nov 8, 2018, at 8:30 PM, Todd Underwood wrote:
> google used 4.4.4.4 for DNS in the past (2010, IIRC).
> 
> t
> 
> On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 8:21 PM Steve Meuse  wrote:
>> 
>> I think it was the dial modem team that beat us to 4.4.4.0/24? 
>> 
>> -Steve
>> 
>> On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 7:44 PM John Orthoefer
>>  wrote:>>> 
>>> I wish we could have used 4.4.4.4. Although at the time I suspect we
>>> would have used 4.4.4.[123].>>> 
>>> Johno 
>>> 
>>> On Nov 8, 2018, at 18:58, Matt Erculiani 
>>> wrote: So it looks like GE will be solvent for a few more years and
 3.3.3.3 DNS is incoming. 
 -Matt
 
 On Thu, Nov 8, 2018, 17:54 Eric Kuhnke >>> wrote:> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18407173
> 
> Quoting from the post:
> 
> "
> 
> Apparently bought in two chunks: 3.0.0.0/9 and 3.128.0.0/9.
> Previous owner was GE.


> Anecdotal reports across the Internet that AWS EIPs are now being
> assigned in that range.> 
> https://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-3-0-0-0-1.html


> https://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-3-128-0-0-1.html


> "
> 
> 
>

Re: Amazon now controls 3.0.0.0/8

2018-11-08 Thread Steve Meuse 
John Orthoefer and I (and dozens of other BBN folks on this list) both
worked for BBNPlanet at the time that 4.2.2.1 and 4.2.2.2 were assigned.
John was one of the folks who built and ran that system.

So when he said "I wish we could have used 4.4.4.4" and my comment of "I
think the dial modem folks beat us to..." was referring to the fact that
when 4/8 was first being deployed on AS1 we started assigning blocks to
various groups and they realized that 4.4.4.0/XX had already been delegated
to another internal group (I think it was the dial group).



On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 8:45 PM Tom Beecher  wrote:

> 4.0.0.0/8 has been GTE/Level3 forever.
>
> 4.2.2.1 - 6 have been L3 DNS as far back as I can remember.
>
> On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 8:32 PM Todd Underwood  wrote:
>
>> google used 4.4.4.4 for DNS in the past (2010, IIRC).
>>
>> t
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 8:21 PM Steve Meuse  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I think it was the dial modem team that beat us to 4.4.4.0/24?
>>>
>>> -Steve
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 7:44 PM John Orthoefer  wrote:
>>>
 I wish we could have used 4.4.4.4. Although at the time I suspect we
 would have used 4.4.4.[123].

 Johno

 On Nov 8, 2018, at 18:58, Matt Erculiani  wrote:

 So it looks like GE will be solvent for a few more years and 3.3.3.3
 DNS is incoming.

 -Matt

 On Thu, Nov 8, 2018, 17:54 Eric Kuhnke >>>
> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18407173
>
> Quoting from the post:
>
> "
>
> Apparently bought in two chunks: 3.0.0.0/9 and 3.128.0.0/9.
>
> Previous owner was GE.
>
> Anecdotal reports across the Internet that AWS EIPs are now being
> assigned in that range.
>
> https://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-3-0-0-0-1.html
>
> https://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-3-128-0-0-1.html
> "
>
>
>
>

Re: Amazon now controls 3.0.0.0/8

2018-11-08 Thread Royce Williams 
Obligatory list of all known same-quad servers and their DNS status -
corrections welcome:

https://gist.github.com/roycewilliams/6cb91ed94b88730321ca3076006229f1

If there is info about previous/historical use of these IPs, I'd like to
find a way to incorporate that as well.

-- 
Royce


On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 4:31 PM Todd Underwood  wrote:

> google used 4.4.4.4 for DNS in the past (2010, IIRC).
>
> t
>
> On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 8:21 PM Steve Meuse  wrote:
>
>>
>> I think it was the dial modem team that beat us to 4.4.4.0/24?
>>
>> -Steve
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 7:44 PM John Orthoefer  wrote:
>>
>>> I wish we could have used 4.4.4.4. Although at the time I suspect we
>>> would have used 4.4.4.[123].
>>>
>>> Johno
>>>
>>> On Nov 8, 2018, at 18:58, Matt Erculiani  wrote:
>>>
>>> So it looks like GE will be solvent for a few more years and 3.3.3.3 DNS
>>> is incoming.
>>>
>>> -Matt
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 8, 2018, 17:54 Eric Kuhnke >>
 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18407173

 Quoting from the post:

 "

 Apparently bought in two chunks: 3.0.0.0/9 and 3.128.0.0/9.

 Previous owner was GE.

 Anecdotal reports across the Internet that AWS EIPs are now being
 assigned in that range.

 https://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-3-0-0-0-1.html

 https://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-3-128-0-0-1.html
 "

Re: Amazon now controls 3.0.0.0/8

2018-11-08 Thread Tom Beecher 
4.0.0.0/8 has been GTE/Level3 forever.

4.2.2.1 - 6 have been L3 DNS as far back as I can remember.

On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 8:32 PM Todd Underwood  wrote:

> google used 4.4.4.4 for DNS in the past (2010, IIRC).
>
> t
>
> On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 8:21 PM Steve Meuse  wrote:
>
>>
>> I think it was the dial modem team that beat us to 4.4.4.0/24?
>>
>> -Steve
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 7:44 PM John Orthoefer  wrote:
>>
>>> I wish we could have used 4.4.4.4. Although at the time I suspect we
>>> would have used 4.4.4.[123].
>>>
>>> Johno
>>>
>>> On Nov 8, 2018, at 18:58, Matt Erculiani  wrote:
>>>
>>> So it looks like GE will be solvent for a few more years and 3.3.3.3 DNS
>>> is incoming.
>>>
>>> -Matt
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 8, 2018, 17:54 Eric Kuhnke >>
 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18407173

 Quoting from the post:

 "

 Apparently bought in two chunks: 3.0.0.0/9 and 3.128.0.0/9.

 Previous owner was GE.

 Anecdotal reports across the Internet that AWS EIPs are now being
 assigned in that range.

 https://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-3-0-0-0-1.html

 https://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-3-128-0-0-1.html
 "

Re: Amazon now controls 3.0.0.0/8

2018-11-08 Thread Todd Underwood 
google used 4.4.4.4 for DNS in the past (2010, IIRC).

t

On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 8:21 PM Steve Meuse  wrote:

>
> I think it was the dial modem team that beat us to 4.4.4.0/24?
>
> -Steve
>
> On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 7:44 PM John Orthoefer  wrote:
>
>> I wish we could have used 4.4.4.4. Although at the time I suspect we
>> would have used 4.4.4.[123].
>>
>> Johno
>>
>> On Nov 8, 2018, at 18:58, Matt Erculiani  wrote:
>>
>> So it looks like GE will be solvent for a few more years and 3.3.3.3 DNS
>> is incoming.
>>
>> -Matt
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 8, 2018, 17:54 Eric Kuhnke >
>>> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18407173
>>>
>>> Quoting from the post:
>>>
>>> "
>>>
>>> Apparently bought in two chunks: 3.0.0.0/9 and 3.128.0.0/9.
>>>
>>> Previous owner was GE.
>>>
>>> Anecdotal reports across the Internet that AWS EIPs are now being
>>> assigned in that range.
>>>
>>> https://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-3-0-0-0-1.html
>>>
>>> https://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-3-128-0-0-1.html
>>> "
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

Re: Amazon now controls 3.0.0.0/8

2018-11-08 Thread Steve Meuse 
I think it was the dial modem team that beat us to 4.4.4.0/24?

-Steve

On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 7:44 PM John Orthoefer  wrote:

> I wish we could have used 4.4.4.4. Although at the time I suspect we would
> have used 4.4.4.[123].
>
> Johno
>
> On Nov 8, 2018, at 18:58, Matt Erculiani  wrote:
>
> So it looks like GE will be solvent for a few more years and 3.3.3.3 DNS
> is incoming.
>
> -Matt
>
> On Thu, Nov 8, 2018, 17:54 Eric Kuhnke 
>> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18407173
>>
>> Quoting from the post:
>>
>> "
>>
>> Apparently bought in two chunks: 3.0.0.0/9 and 3.128.0.0/9.
>>
>> Previous owner was GE.
>>
>> Anecdotal reports across the Internet that AWS EIPs are now being
>> assigned in that range.
>>
>> https://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-3-0-0-0-1.html
>>
>> https://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-3-128-0-0-1.html
>> "
>>
>>
>>
>>

Re: Amazon now controls 3.0.0.0/8

2018-11-08 Thread Eric Kuhnke 
3.4.5.6/24 could be an interesting block to put easily memorable IP
services in...



On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 4:44 PM John Orthoefer  wrote:

> I wish we could have used 4.4.4.4. Although at the time I suspect we would
> have used 4.4.4.[123].
>
> Johno
>
> On Nov 8, 2018, at 18:58, Matt Erculiani  wrote:
>
> So it looks like GE will be solvent for a few more years and 3.3.3.3 DNS
> is incoming.
>
> -Matt
>
> On Thu, Nov 8, 2018, 17:54 Eric Kuhnke 
>> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18407173
>>
>> Quoting from the post:
>>
>> "
>>
>> Apparently bought in two chunks: 3.0.0.0/9 and 3.128.0.0/9.
>>
>> Previous owner was GE.
>>
>> Anecdotal reports across the Internet that AWS EIPs are now being
>> assigned in that range.
>>
>> https://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-3-0-0-0-1.html
>>
>> https://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-3-128-0-0-1.html
>> "
>>
>>
>>
>>

Re: Amazon now controls 3.0.0.0/8

2018-11-08 Thread John Orthoefer 
I wish we could have used 4.4.4.4. Although at the time I suspect we would have 
used 4.4.4.[123]. 

Johno 

> On Nov 8, 2018, at 18:58, Matt Erculiani  wrote:
> 
> So it looks like GE will be solvent for a few more years and 3.3.3.3 DNS is 
> incoming.
> 
> -Matt
> 
>> On Thu, Nov 8, 2018, 17:54 Eric Kuhnke > https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18407173
>> 
>> Quoting from the post:
>> 
>> "
>> 
>> Apparently bought in two chunks: 3.0.0.0/9 and 3.128.0.0/9.
>> Previous owner was GE.
>> 
>> Anecdotal reports across the Internet that AWS EIPs are now being assigned 
>> in that range.
>> 
>> https://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-3-0-0-0-1.html
>> 
>> https://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-3-128-0-0-1.html
>> 
>> "
>> 
>> 
>>

Re: Amazon now controls 3.0.0.0/8

2018-11-08 Thread Matt Erculiani 
So it looks like GE will be solvent for a few more years and 3.3.3.3 DNS is
incoming.

-Matt

On Thu, Nov 8, 2018, 17:54 Eric Kuhnke  https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18407173
>
> Quoting from the post:
>
> "
>
> Apparently bought in two chunks: 3.0.0.0/9 and 3.128.0.0/9.
>
> Previous owner was GE.
>
> Anecdotal reports across the Internet that AWS EIPs are now being assigned
> in that range.
>
> https://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-3-0-0-0-1.html
>
> https://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-3-128-0-0-1.html
> "
>
>
>
>

Re: Amazon now controls 3.0.0.0/8

2018-11-08 Thread Job Snijders 
On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 0:54 Eric Kuhnke  wrote:

> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18407173
>
> Quoting from the post:
>
> "
>
> Apparently bought in two chunks: 3.0.0.0/9 and 3.128.0.0/9.
>
> Previous owner was GE.
>
> Anecdotal reports across the Internet that AWS EIPs are now being assigned
> in that range.
>
> https://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-3-0-0-0-1.html
>
> https://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-3-128-0-0-1.html
> "
>


Seems ALTDB should delete the old AS 80 / GE IRR proxy route registration:
http://irrexplorer.nlnog.net/search/3.0.0.0

Kind regards,

Job

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