on Thu, May 04, 2023 at 08:09:01PM -0600, Forrest Christian (List Account)
wrote:
> I can't speak for aptum, but I'm curious as to why this is important to
> you? I'm not trying to discount this at all, just curious why this
> matters in the internet of 2023.
For the past 20 years, I've been
When I worked for a local/regional ISP in the late 90s/early 00s, we
initially SWIP'd assignments for business customers and did generic
assignments for things like dial-up address pools or NAT front-end ranges
for residential customers, but provided more detailed information for
business
Forrest Christian (List Account) writes:
> I'm also wondering if this might be a "no one that has got the request
> actually has a clue how to resolve your issues" issue. I've seen
> situations where companies don't know how to respond to a request outside
> the most common requests they get.
On Sat, May 6, 2023, 3:05 PM Jim wrote:
> This is important in order to
> provide accurate NOC / Technical and Abuse contact to the community for
> the purposes Of validating legitimate
> technical contacts for a variety of reasons, contacting users about
> connectivity issues, and being able
On Sat, May 6, 2023 at 3:19 PM Richey Goldberg
wrote:
> I wonder. Has there ever been a case where ARIN took action for a violation
> of this policy?
Yes and no. ARIN won't assign additional addresses (including address
transfers) until the ISP is in compliance with the SWIP/rwhois policy.
I wonder. Has there ever been a case where ARIN took action for a violation of
this policy?
Richey
.
> On May 5, 2023, at 1:08 PM, Blake Hudson wrote:
>
>
> On 5/4/2023 9:09 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:
>> I can't speak for aptum, but I'm curious as to why this is
On Fri, May 5, 2023 at 12:09 PM Blake Hudson wrote:
>
> On 5/4/2023 9:09 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:
>
> I can't speak for aptum, but I'm curious as to why this is important to
> you?
>
> > SWIP'ing or delegating address space is a requirement of the contract
> signed with ARIN
On Fri, May 5, 2023 at 8:48 AM richey goldberg
wrote:
> In 25 years of working for ISPs I don’t think I’ve ever worked for one that
> SWIPed IP space of any size to an end user and I don’t think I’ve ever seen a
> request. Mostly because no one wants to put a list of customers out in the
>
So as another list member pointed out, they MAY have an obligation to do
the swip, depends on the details of the parent address allocation origin
and what their contractual relationship with the registrar is. Assuming
modern direct allocations from ARIN, this is almost certainly the case.
Just a
There is an inherent assumption here that the address space in question was
obtained after ARIN existed and that the space is covered by a signed
contract. But since that isn't likely the situation at aptum, I'll agree
with your point.
I also could have sworn that ARIN used to have an option
On Fri, May 5, 2023 at 10:04 AM Lyndon Nerenberg (VE7TFX/VE6BBM)
wrote:
> But the last time I looked, it's also ARIN's policy to require ISPs
> (which Aptum is) to SWIP addresses in order to justify future requests
> for address space. I'm curious what will happen the next time they
> ask for
Forrest Christian (List Account) writes:
> I can't speak for aptum, but I'm curious as to why this is important to
> you? I'm not trying to discount this at all, just curious why this
> matters in the internet of 2023.
Two main reasons.
1) We are trying to set up internal peering with AWS,
On 5/4/2023 9:09 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:
I can't speak for aptum, but I'm curious as to why this is important
to you?
SWIP'ing or delegating address space is a requirement of the contract
signed with ARIN when the addresses were granted. If you route a /24 to
a customer
; which tech was helping them get it. I went back to the office that
> afternoon and sanitized our rDNS to put a stop to that.
>
>
>
> -richey
>
>
>
> *From: *NANOG on
> behalf of Forrest Christian (List Account)
> *Date: *Thursday, May 4, 2023 at 10:09 PM
>
of
Forrest Christian (List Account)
Date: Thursday, May 4, 2023 at 10:09 PM
To: Lyndon Nerenberg (VE7TFX/VE6BBM)
Cc: nanog list
Subject: Re: Aptum refuses to SWIP
I can't speak for aptum, but I'm curious as to why this is important to you?
I'm not trying to discount this at all, just curious
On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 9:09 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) <
li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
> I can't speak for aptum, but I'm curious as to why this is important to
> you? I'm not trying to discount this at all, just curious why this
> matters in the internet of 2023.
>
> I went through a
I can't speak for aptum, but I'm curious as to why this is important to
you? I'm not trying to discount this at all, just curious why this
matters in the internet of 2023.
I went through a couple years back and removed all of our mostly outdated
SWIP data and replaced it with generic
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