Re: Hurricane Maria: Summary of communication status - and lack of

2017-10-10 Thread Jean-Francois Mezei
On 2017-10-10 00:47, Sean Donelan wrote: > > The Puerto Rico government has posted threee maps of cellular coverage and > GPS coordinates of Cells on Wheels (COWs) in service. > > http://www.status.pr/Maps/ > > It still looks grim in Puerto Ricofrom a telecommunications perspective. I found

Re: Hurricane Maria: Summary of communication status - and lack of

2017-10-09 Thread Wayne Bouchard
Please note that there is another looming problem with restoration of services generally (not just telecommunications). The key here is the power grid. >From what I have read, a great deal of the operating infrastructure is operating on backup generator. These generators are not meant for this

Re: Hurricane Maria: Summary of communication status - and lack of

2017-10-09 Thread Sean Donelan
The Puerto Rico government has posted threee maps of cellular coverage and GPS coordinates of Cells on Wheels (COWs) in service. http://www.status.pr/Maps/ It still looks grim in Puerto Ricofrom a telecommunications perspective. Its will be an interesting after-action study. Other than "it

Re: Hurricane Maria: Summary of communication status - and lack of

2017-10-08 Thread Mike Hammett
nanog@nanog.org Sent: Sat, 07 Oct 2017 03:02:46 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: Hurricane Maria: Summary of communication status - and lack of @ Jean Interesting stuff. Please keep this thread updated with info on that initiative. On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 9:55 PM, Jean-Francois Mezei < jfmezei_na...@va

Re: Hurricane Maria: Summary of communication status - and lack of

2017-10-07 Thread Javier J
@ Jean Interesting stuff. Please keep this thread updated with info on that initiative. On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 9:55 PM, Jean-Francois Mezei < jfmezei_na...@vaxination.ca> wrote: > I have not ound the official announcements, but the press is reporting > that the FCC has granted Google rights to

Re: Hurricane Maria: Summary of communication status - and lack of

2017-10-06 Thread Jean-Francois Mezei
I have not ound the official announcements, but the press is reporting that the FCC has granted Google rights to fly 30 of its "Loon" high altitude ballons to provide cellular cervice in Puerto Rico for up to 6 months. (From my readings, there are glorified relays of ground based signals (which I

Re: Hurricane Maria: Summary of communication status - and lack of

2017-10-06 Thread Sean Donelan
In addition to government and carriers working on the large-scale infrastructure to restore telecommunications in Puerto Rico, U.S. Virgin Islands and other Caribbean islands; I've found the following non-government organizations with people on the ground in the disaster areas working on

Re: Hurricane Maria: Summary of communication status - and lack of

2017-10-05 Thread Sean Donelan
On Thu, 5 Oct 2017, Jean-Francois Mezei wrote: Statistics may look bad showing 100,000 without power. But if it is a single break by a branch it is easy to fix compared to having 1000 breaks by 1000 branches. So again, statistics don't give the full story on the real extent of damage. The FCC

Re: Hurricane Maria: Summary of communication status - and lack of

2017-10-05 Thread Mike Hammett
-Francois Mezei" <jfmezei_na...@vaxination.ca> To: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2017 4:50:39 PM Subject: Re: Hurricane Maria: Summary of communication status - and lack of got curious about the FCC's definition of "cell site" in the Maria outages reports in

Re: Hurricane Maria: Summary of communication status - and lack of

2017-10-05 Thread Jean-Francois Mezei
got curious about the FCC's definition of "cell site" in the Maria outages reports in Puerto Rico. In the Oct 4 report: Arecibo is reported as having 68 cell sites served, 65 being out. (95.2% outage) The FCC has an "ASR" (Antenna Structure Registration) search for cell sites, and this points

Re: Hurricane Maria: Summary of communication status - and lack of

2017-10-03 Thread Sean Donelan
Fatalities Puerto Rico: 34 storm related (last report Oct. 3) Media estimate at least 60 storm related deaths CDC mortatility rate for PR: average 80 deaths per day all causes U.S. Virgin Islands: 5 storm related (last report Oct. 3) 30

Re: Hurricane Maria: Summary of communication status - and lack of

2017-10-03 Thread Sean Donelan
After two weeks it appears the situation is stabilizing (not getting worse) on Puerto Rico and U.S. Virgin Islands. But recovery and logistics still seems very slow in both territories. A reminder, I am focusing on U.S. Territories, but other Caribbean islands are still recovering from

Re: Hurricane Maria: Summary of communication status - and lack of

2017-10-02 Thread Javier J
This is great to hear Nicholas. On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 5:55 PM, Nicholas Harland wrote: > Hi Sean, > > Thank you for all of your updates. I am just catching up on them because I > only recently got back from the virgin islands. I am one of those > volunteers working in the

Re: Hurricane Maria: Summary of communication status - and lack of

2017-10-02 Thread Nicholas Harland
Hi Sean, Thank you for all of your updates. I am just catching up on them because I only recently got back from the virgin islands. I am one of those volunteers working in the USVI. St John specifically. We are building out a wireless network, and had our first hotspot up in Cruz Bay 4 days after

Re: Hurricane Maria: Summary of communication status - and lack of

2017-10-02 Thread Sean Donelan
On Mon, 2 Oct 2017, Sean Donelan wrote: On Sun, 1 Oct 2017, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: I haven't seen any reports of a Teamster union refusal. I *have* seen reports that only 10-30% of truck drivers are operational, because of one or more of: You're lucky. The bots have been pushing this

Re: Hurricane Maria: Summary of communication status - and lack of

2017-10-02 Thread Sean Donelan
On Sun, 1 Oct 2017, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: I haven't seen any reports of a Teamster union refusal. I *have* seen reports that only 10-30% of truck drivers are operational, because of one or more of: You're lucky. The bots have been pushing this very hard for several days. I don't know

Re: Hurricane Maria: Summary of communication status - and lack of

2017-10-02 Thread Jean-Francois Mezei
On 2017-10-02 02:58, Wayne Bouchard wrote: > Well, that's why recovery efforts in broad scale events like this have > to go from a central point to pushing a perimiter farther and farther > out. Create a habital, functional zone where workers can return to > both to organize and recouperate and

Re: Hurricane Maria: Summary of communication status - and lack of

2017-10-02 Thread Wayne Bouchard
Well, that's why recovery efforts in broad scale events like this have to go from a central point to pushing a perimiter farther and farther out. Create a habital, functional zone where workers can return to both to organize and recouperate and then go back out and push farther afield. First

Re: Hurricane Maria: Summary of communication status - and lack of

2017-10-01 Thread Brooks Bridges
It's also quite possible that many of the roads are perfectly passable by a 5000 to 7500# car however aren't cleared enough or stable enough for a 60,000 to 80,000# tractor-trailer. On 10/1/2017 10:38 PM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: On Sun, 01 Oct 2017 22:09:55 -0500, Jason Baugher said:

Re: Hurricane Maria: Summary of communication status - and lack of

2017-10-01 Thread valdis . kletnieks
On Sun, 01 Oct 2017 22:09:55 -0500, Jason Baugher said: > The more I read about this, the more disturbed I get. On the one hand, we > keep hearing that the trucks aren't moving because roads are impassable. > Then I read that government officials are driving from their remote areas > to San Juan

Re: Hurricane Maria: Summary of communication status - and lack of

2017-10-01 Thread Jean-Francois Mezei
On 2017-10-02 00:32, Javier J wrote: > I hope they do. There doesn't seem to be a shortage of FEMA, Army, etc > personnel on the ground or a shortage of truck drivers in the US willing to > help. If 80% of Truck drivers that pick up containers from the ports can't > make it, then this needs to be

Re: Hurricane Maria: Summary of communication status - and lack of

2017-10-01 Thread Javier J
> Do FEMA and the National Guard have the authority to commandeer the trucks and deliver the containers themselves? I hope they do. There doesn't seem to be a shortage of FEMA, Army, etc personnel on the ground or a shortage of truck drivers in the US willing to help. If 80% of Truck drivers

Re: Hurricane Maria: Summary of communication status - and lack of

2017-10-01 Thread Jean-Francois Mezei
On 2017-10-01 23:09, Jason Baugher wrote: > The more I read about this, the more disturbed I get. On the one hand, we > keep hearing that the trucks aren't moving because roads are impassable. Note: media NEVER shows places that are up and running, only shows disaster zones, so one may not get

Re: Hurricane Maria: Summary of communication status - and lack of

2017-10-01 Thread valdis . kletnieks
On Sun, 01 Oct 2017 22:28:31 -0400, Javier J said: > The media here in the states is no better. I have multiple confirmations > and am looking for hard proof but the Teamsters Puerto Rico trucking union > is refusing to move containers out of the port. Only 20% of truckers showed > up for work.

Re: Hurricane Maria: Summary of communication status - and lack of

2017-10-01 Thread Jason Baugher
The more I read about this, the more disturbed I get. On the one hand, we keep hearing that the trucks aren't moving because roads are impassable. Then I read that government officials are driving from their remote areas to San Juan to ask why no aid is coming, disputing the claims about the

Re: Hurricane Maria: Summary of communication status - and lack of

2017-10-01 Thread Javier J
At this point, I wouldn't trust status.pr and any media reports without verifying information. As far as LibertyPR is concerned my cousin who lives in Carolina, PR told me thieves were stealing fiber optic cable after the storm. I trust the Seon Donelan, FCC, US Military, FEMA reports in that

Re: Hurricane Maria: Summary of communication status - and lack of

2017-09-30 Thread Sean Donelan
On Sat, 30 Sep 2017, Sean Donelan wrote: The first public statement I've seen from LibertyPR was yesterday. Their network was completely down. They've restored some of their main infrastructure, i.e. cable headends and main fiber connections. 100% of subscribers are out of service. I've seen

Re: Hurricane Maria: Summary of communication status - and lack of

2017-09-30 Thread Sean Donelan
On Sat, 30 Sep 2017, Phil Rosenthal wrote: Has anyone heard anything about Liberty Cablevision / AS14638? The first public statement I've seen from LibertyPR was yesterday. Their network was completely down. They've restored some of their main infrastructure, i.e. cable headends and main

Re: Hurricane Maria: Summary of communication status - and lack of

2017-09-30 Thread Sean Donelan
The Government of Puerto Rico has created a map of working cell sites in puerto Rico. I'm not certain about the source of the information. Cellular carriers usually object/refuse to release details about their operations. http://status.pr/Maps The map shows most working cell sites are in

Re: Hurricane Maria: Summary of communication status - and lack of

2017-09-30 Thread Rod Beck
The whole thing is a disgrace. From: NANOG <nanog-boun...@nanog.org> on behalf of Phil Rosenthal <p...@isprime.com> Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 3:47 PM To: Jean-Francois Mezei Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Hurricane Maria: Summary of c

Re: Hurricane Maria: Summary of communication status - and lack of

2017-09-30 Thread Phil Rosenthal
Has anyone heard anything about Liberty Cablevision / AS14638? Our Netflow stats show a traffic drop to zero at the moment of landfall of Maria, late on 9/19, and a continued flat line at zero until now. Almost 11 days without a single packet exchanged. This is (as far as I am aware), the #2

Re: Hurricane Maria: Summary of communication status - and lack of

2017-09-30 Thread Jean-Francois Mezei
On 2017-09-29 23:07, Sean Donelan wrote: > I don't know what FCC and PRTRB are counting: > > 286 working cell sites out of 2671 (according to FCC report) > 96 working cell sites out of 1600 (according to PR Telecommunications > Regulatory Board report) I had noticed the different

Re: Hurricane Maria: Summary of communication status - and lack of

2017-09-29 Thread Sean Donelan
The situation reports from Puerto Rico seems to be getting passed through public relations, so I'll try to add some context. Public Safety Primary Public Safety Answering Point (9-1-1) center generator ran out of diesel fuel. Switched to alternate PSAP. San Juan Police Department

Re: [Ext] Re: Hurricane Maria: Summary of communication status - and lack of

2017-09-29 Thread Barbara Roseman
Sean, thank you for all the excellent updates you have been providing. Status.pr is disturbing since there is no context to the stats offered on this page. 49% of supermarkets may be open, but with nothing on their shelves. And 11k refugees? Who are they trying to kid with a number like that.

Re: Hurricane Maria: Summary of communication status - and lack of

2017-09-29 Thread Sean Donelan
Career federal employees are taught to write situation reports in very boring language with just the facts known. Nevertheless, after reading lots of situation reports, you start to notice when the bubureaucratic language changes. Perhaps the most famous was the commander of Apollo 13's report

Re: Hurricane Maria: Summary of communication status - and lack of

2017-09-28 Thread Mike Hammett
Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: "Sean Donelan" <s...@donelan.com> To: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 4:44:30 PM Subject: Re: Hurricane Maria: Summary of communication status - and lack of

Re: Hurricane Maria: Summary of communication status - and lack of

2017-09-28 Thread Jean-Francois Mezei
FYI: White House announces that the US Army Corp of Engineers is in charge of power in Puerto Rico, and were given priorities to hospitals and other emergency services. No mention of telecom being part of those priorities. Initial push is installing temporary power generation. They are not yet

Re: Hurricane Maria: Summary of communication status - and lack of

2017-09-27 Thread Javier J
> Telecommunications: Pictures posted on twitter of joint restoration meeting between.. What twitter feed was this? I didn't catch it. On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 5:44 PM, Sean Donelan wrote: > > After a week without power, all the stationary batteries throughout the

Re: Hurricane Maria: Summary of communication status - and lack of

2017-09-27 Thread Sean Donelan
On Wed, 27 Sep 2017, Jean-Francois Mezei wrote: After a week without power, all the stationary batteries throughout the telecommunications network are likely completely drained. from the point of view of cell sites, wouldn't battery autonomy be measured in hours rather than days? I could see

Re: Hurricane Maria: Summary of communication status - and lack of

2017-09-27 Thread Jean-Francois Mezei
On 2017-09-27 17:44, Sean Donelan wrote: > After a week without power, all the stationary batteries throughout the > telecommunications network are likely completely drained. from the point of view of cell sites, wouldn't battery autonomy be measured in hours rather than days? I could see some

Re: Hurricane Maria: Summary of communication status - and lack of

2017-09-27 Thread Sean Donelan
After a week without power, all the stationary batteries throughout the telecommunications network are likely completely drained. This makes restoration even more difficult, like a dead car battery needing a jump start. I am focusing on U.S. territories, but there is also disaster response

Re: Hurricane Maria: Summary of communication status - and lack of

2017-09-27 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Wed, 27 Sep 2017, Sean Donelan wrote: Things are better and worse in Puerto Rico and other Caribbean islands. Help is needed, but anyone wanting to help in the field, be certain you understand what you would be doing, and whether you are actually helping or hindering on the ground efforts.

Re: Hurricane Maria: Summary of communication status - and lack of

2017-09-27 Thread Keith Stokes
And your upstream(s) to work. And their upstream(s) to work. etc. If 90% of the stations in the EAS web are down you may end up with nothing working. On Sep 27, 2017, at 9:21 AM, Edwin Pers > wrote: The telecommunications damage in PR and USVI

RE: Hurricane Maria: Summary of communication status - and lack of

2017-09-27 Thread Edwin Pers
> The telecommunications damage in PR and USVI will be a good test how well the > EAS works during extreme telecommunications damage. From my brief time as a radio station tech, all you need for EAS to function properly is power to the receiver/decoder and for the station's transmitter to be

Re: Hurricane Maria: Summary of communication status - and lack of

2017-09-26 Thread Sean Donelan
Things are better and worse in Puerto Rico and other Caribbean islands. Help is needed, but anyone wanting to help in the field, be certain you understand what you would be doing, and whether you are actually helping or hindering on the ground efforts. From Washington Post: [U.S. FEMA

Re: Hurricane Maria: Summary of communication status - and lack of

2017-09-26 Thread Javier J
Keep on posting this great info Sean. It is being passed along. Just wanted you to be aware. On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 12:52 AM, Sean Donelan wrote: > It looks like someone kicked the cellular carriers public relations people > into gear. Today, instead of the normal "we care"

Re: Hurricane Maria: Summary of communication status - and lack of

2017-09-26 Thread Chaim Rieger
I doubt the runway is stable enough to hold the weight of a loaded c5. On Sep 26, 2017 01:05, "Mikael Abrahamsson" wrote: > On Tue, 26 Sep 2017, Sean Donelan wrote: > > It looks like someone kicked the cellular carriers public relations people >> into gear. Today, instead of

Re: Hurricane Maria: Summary of communication status - and lack of

2017-09-26 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Tue, 26 Sep 2017, Sean Donelan wrote: It looks like someone kicked the cellular carriers public relations people into gear. Today, instead of the normal "we care" messages; they released statements providing more concrete details about their restoration activity in PR and USVI. What is

Re: Hurricane Maria: Summary of communication status - and lack of

2017-09-25 Thread Wayne Bouchard
On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 12:52:29AM -0400, Sean Donelan wrote: > T-Mobile also mentions while T-Mobile's field engineering crew was at the > Luis Mu??oz Mar??n Airport, they were drafted to help install a generator > for the FAA Control Tower. That's one way to help get your supplies on the >

Re: Hurricane Maria: Summary of communication status - and lack of

2017-09-25 Thread Sean Donelan
It looks like someone kicked the cellular carriers public relations people into gear. Today, instead of the normal "we care" messages; they released statements providing more concrete details about their restoration activity in PR and USVI. Overall, 91.2% cell sites out of service in Puerto

Re: Hurricane Maria: Summary of communication status - and lack of

2017-09-25 Thread Mike Hammett
nanog@nanog.org Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 6:55:41 PM Subject: Re: Hurricane Maria: Summary of communication status - and lack of On 2017-09-24 17:13, Sean Donelan wrote: > I'm not sure what clearances they are waiting for. If they are already in > Puerto Rico, self-sufficien

Re: Hurricane Maria: Summary of communication status - and lack of

2017-09-25 Thread Jean-Francois Mezei
On 2017-09-24 17:13, Sean Donelan wrote: > I'm not sure what clearances they are waiting for. If they are already in > Puerto Rico, self-sufficient, and respect curfews and other emergency > responders, they should be able to start local restoration and recovery > activities. Priority is to

Re: Hurricane Maria: Summary of communication status - and lack of

2017-09-25 Thread Sean Donelan
As of this morning, the ILEC Claro is reporting 8 central offices have voice, data and long distance service operating, mostly in metro areas. This does not include outside plant or local loops serving customers. Central offices serving 55 of 78 municipalities have local voice service, no

Re: Hurricane Maria: Summary of communication status - and lack of

2017-09-24 Thread Mike Hammett
WISP - Original Message - From: "Sean Donelan" <s...@donelan.com> To: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 4:13:33 PM Subject: Re: Hurricane Maria: Summary of communication status - and lack of On Sun, 24 Sep 2017, Mike Hammett wrote: > There are a bun

Re: Hurricane Maria: Summary of communication status - and lack of

2017-09-24 Thread Sean Donelan
On Sun, 24 Sep 2017, Mike Hammett wrote: There are a bunch of WISPs waiting to go rebuild, but waiting for the clearance to do so. I'm not sure what clearances they are waiting for. If they are already in Puerto Rico, self-sufficient, and respect curfews and other emergency responders, they

Re: Hurricane Maria: Summary of communication status - and lack of

2017-09-24 Thread Mike Hammett
quot; <s...@donelan.com> To: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 2:28:35 PM Subject: Re: Hurricane Maria: Summary of communication status - and lack of The ILEC, Claro, is reporting all 24 central offices in Puerto Rico are now operating on generators, and maintaining re-f

Re: Hurricane Maria: Summary of communication status - and lack of

2017-09-24 Thread Sean Donelan
The ILEC, Claro, is reporting all 24 central offices in Puerto Rico are now operating on generators, and maintaining re-fueling operations. The CO's in the (San Juan?) metro area have voice, data and long distance service including to the mainland. The CO's elsewhere in Puerto Rico have only

Re: Hurricane Maria: Summary of communication status - and lack of

2017-09-23 Thread Sean Donelan
According to PREPA Net, the fiber subsidary of the Electric Power Authority, the power system for the Punta las MarĂ­as submarine cable station is back in service after flooding. I think Isla Verde and Punta las Marias refer to the same landing point. I don't know the status of individual

Re: Hurricane Maria: Summary of communication status - and lack of

2017-09-23 Thread Sean Donelan
Reportedly most (All?) operational cellular carriers on Puerto Rico have activated "universal roaming" service. All working towers will accept roaming connections from any phone from any carrier (or no service provider). You may need to turn the phone off & on so it scans for a working

Re: Hurricane Maria: Summary of communication status - and lack of

2017-09-23 Thread Javier J
T-Mobile PR on twitter just posted that two of it's submarine cables are out of service. Claro PR Wireless (this is the ILEC in PR) website can't even be reached. I am assuming this is due to power and submarine cable issues since I'm sure t-mobile and many other providers are using the same

Re: Hurricane Maria: Summary of communication status - and lack of

2017-09-22 Thread Rubens Kuhl
On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 11:43 AM, Sean Donelan wrote: > > Following up - there are three cable landing stations and 9 submarine > cable systems connecting Puerto Rico. > > One of the cable landing stations experienced flooding, and shutdown its > power system affecting some

Re: Hurricane Maria: Summary of communication status - and lack of

2017-09-22 Thread Sean Donelan
Following up - there are three cable landing stations and 9 submarine cable systems connecting Puerto Rico. One of the cable landing stations experienced flooding, and shutdown its power system affecting some circuits. I haven't been able to determine how many submarine cable systems are