Re: [neonixie-l] ZIN18

2019-02-10 Thread Kevin A.
I guess we'll find out how well this was implemented. From what I can tell the pinout on the tube looks like a Male 1mm DIP arrangement with a standard 2.54mm pitch. On Sun, Feb 10, 2019, 6:45 PM Jeff Walton I'd be OK with a smart socket but not built-in to a $100 nixie... > > Jeff > >

Re: [neonixie-l] ZIN18

2019-02-10 Thread Jeff Walton
I'd be OK with a smart socket but not built-in to a $100 nixie... Jeff Original message From: 'John Rehwinkel' via neonixie-l Date: 2/10/19 4:57 PM (GMT-06:00) To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] ZIN18  I am thinking that they are initially wanting to

Re: [neonixie-l] ZIN18

2019-02-10 Thread Jeff Walton
Anything in the base other than the ability to modify the pinout is too complicated.  In $100 nixie, do you want a 50 cent, esd sensitive part controlling the useful life of the tube?  The base is already too tall and if it's because of a funky circuit, it's a mistake.  Original

Re: [neonixie-l] ZIN18

2019-02-10 Thread 'John Rehwinkel' via neonixie-l
> > I am thinking that they are initially wanting to sell their clocks and thus > the proprietary pin-out. It doesn’t seem to be the most practical business > approach but credit for trying to keep the art of nixies alive. This verbiage on their page makes me think they have a driver in the

Re: [neonixie-l] 32 kHz output of Maxim DS3231* RTC

2019-02-10 Thread David Pye
Interesting... Fair point! Perhaps some of your ICs are non-genuine, and have different speed oscillators? It seems very hard to explain! On Sun, 10 Feb 2019 at 21:40, Paolo Cravero wrote: > Actually Maxim uses both 32K and 32.768 kHz in the same document, even > paragraph: > > Bit 3:

Re: [neonixie-l] 32 kHz output of Maxim DS3231* RTC

2019-02-10 Thread Dekatron42
I’ve used both versions to divide the 32768Hz signal down to 1Hz and I’ve never seen one which didn’t output 32768Hz on that pin. I usually use a pullup of som1-10k and then use that signal with anything from CMOS to TTL or microprocessors like Arduinos and I’ve always gotten a very stable

Re: [neonixie-l] 32 kHz output of Maxim DS3231* RTC

2019-02-10 Thread David Pye
So. The DS3231M datasheet specifically says it's internal clock output is 32.768kHz (https://datasheets.maximintegrated.com/en/ds/DS3231M.pdf) whereas the other datasheet for SN ( https://docs-emea.rs-online.com/webdocs/0f6e/0900766b80f6ec88.pdf) says its' clock should be 32KHz. So the two

[neonixie-l] 32 kHz output of Maxim DS3231* RTC

2019-02-10 Thread Paolo Cravero
Hello. One more thread on the subject of knock-off components... I use cheap RTC modules that use a DS3231 RTC chip (ZS-04). They are satisfactorily accurate and I haven't had surprises in their internal calendar. Today I measured the 32K output, which is supposed to be 32768 Hz, even though the

Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie GI10 and GI21 tester

2019-02-10 Thread Alic
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RE: [neonixie-l] ZIN18

2019-02-10 Thread Alic
The campaign offers 1, 4 or 6 tubes for a “personal project”. On Facebook Millclock said that even with the electronics in the base, the tubes can be used directly without their software just like a conventional nixie. So it’s not as proprietary as I expected. The normal IN-18 socket

RE: [neonixie-l] ZIN18

2019-02-10 Thread Jeff Walton
I did a question on Kickstarter to the builders about the tubes. I suggested that since they are using a PCB base that it would be more attractive to offer a pinout equivalent to the IN-18 in the circular pin outline instead of the two straight rows. This way the tubes could be used in

Re: [neonixie-l] re warantee on unproven products

2019-02-10 Thread Tony
There was a large quantity of what was claimed to be IN-18 production equipment and consumables offered (for an absurdly high price) on ebay a few years back - it was dicussed on here at the time but the current price of tubes made uneconomical to consider. Maybe if they bought or had access to

[neonixie-l] re warantee on unproven products

2019-02-10 Thread SWISSNIXIE - Jonathan F.
Looks professional, lets see how this comes out. The original IN-18 was manufactured in Sovejet Union in the town of Rovno, which is now ukraine... as far as i know, the last IN-18 were made in 1992, only 26 years ago. There might be the possibilty that they found people that actually were

[neonixie-l] Re: Grain-of-wheat light-pipe displays

2019-02-10 Thread Mike Mitchell
I buy most of my components from Digikey and Adafruit. I searched Digikey's online catalog for a long time, ending up with this case: https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/hammond-manufacturing/1401AAA/HM287-ND/248016 I painted the front white so the water-slide decals would show up