Re: [neonixie-l] IN-3 Neon Bulbs

2014-03-02 Thread Frank Bemelman
Ada Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2014 9:59 PM To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [neonixie-l] IN-3 Neon Bulbs I am just occupied to develop a ac driver to supply neon bulbs symmetrical. Those simple neon's with only two rods as electrode are awful on dc. eric

Re: [neonixie-l] IN-3 Neon Bulbs

2014-03-02 Thread Dekatron42
Some of the Russian users over at Radiokot.ru have discussed this and similar circuit arrangement, like for the IN-24 here: http://translate.google.com/translate?depth=1hl=enie=UTF8prev=_trurl=translate.google.sesl=rutl=enu=http://radiokot.ru/forum/viewtopic.php%3Fp%3D1268086 - I used Google

Re: [neonixie-l] IN-3 Neon Bulbs

2014-03-02 Thread Frank Bemelman
, 2014 12:00 PM To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] IN-3 Neon Bulbs Some of the Russian users over at Radiokot.ru have discussed this and similar circuit arrangement, like for the IN-24 here: http://translate.google.com/translate?depth=1hl=enie=UTF8prev=_trurl

Re: [neonixie-l] IN-3 Neon Bulbs

2014-03-02 Thread John Rehwinkel
That's a good point. I guess it would not be too hard to construct a H-bridge from 2x mpsa42 and 2x mpsa92 and drive that from the microprocessor, or even with one side using mpsa42 and mpsa92 and the other side just 2 resistors of ~100k between HV and GND. Easier yet, just use two

Re: [neonixie-l] IN-3 Neon Bulbs

2014-03-02 Thread Terry S
I don't think that will work. The resistor will effectively short out the resistor/neon combination. It won't light in either direction. On Sunday, March 2, 2014 10:50:15 AM UTC-6, jrehwin wrote: That’s a good point. I guess it would not be too hard to construct a H-bridge from 2x mpsa42

Re: [neonixie-l] IN-3 Neon Bulbs

2014-03-02 Thread Frank Bemelman
@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [neonixie-l] IN-3 Neon Bulbs Hi Frank, That's even better as I have in mind. However, I am busy to make a dc - ac converter. I need it for an other project, where is no hv in use (meter clock). I want to use neon's to avoid LED's because of old style. Later more. eric

Re: [neonixie-l] IN-3 Neon Bulbs

2014-03-02 Thread John Rehwinkel
I don't think that will work. The resistor will effectively short out the resistor/neon combination. It won't light in either direction. One transistor is on at a time, pulling that end of the neon down to (approximately) ground, basically overwhelming the resistor on that end. The other

RE: [neonixie-l] IN-3 Neon Bulbs

2014-03-02 Thread Tidak Ada
: zondag 2 maart 2014 21:52 To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] IN-3 Neon Bulbs Ok, I can understand that. You could try a royer converter. The fun is in the making of the small transformer. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Royer_Circuit1.gif But there are many ways to skin a cat

Re: [neonixie-l] IN-3 Neon Bulbs

2014-03-02 Thread John Rehwinkel
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Royer_Circuit1.gif Usually when someone refers to a Royer oscillator, they mean a resonant Royer, which has a series inductor and resonating capacitor, and produces a sine wave output. The wikipedia article (like many such) is somewhat misleading, and mostly

Re: [neonixie-l] IN-3 Neon Bulbs

2014-03-02 Thread Joseph Bento
What a great link! It's fun to see what fellow hobbyists are doing, and the translation of the web page makes it so much easier! Since I am a sucker for any new Russian nixie related stuff, I did a search on E-bay for the IN-24. I found some, and therefore ordered a few. Hopefully the

Re: [neonixie-l] IN-3 Neon Bulbs

2014-03-02 Thread Joseph Bento
Thanks for the link! Nice to see Russian hobbyists using their own tubes. :-) I had not heard of the IN-24, so I did an E-bay search, found some, and ordered a couple. Looking forward to playing with these too. Joe On Sunday, March 2, 2014 4:00:36 AM UTC-7, Dekatron42 wrote: Some of the

[neonixie-l] IN-3 Neon Bulbs

2014-03-01 Thread Spencer
Hello All! I bought these for the nixie clocks, http://www.ebay.com/itm/251373901401, and they will work for a bit then start flickering all over in the tube, and lighting up in odd places and not where it should be lighting up! An example can be found at, http://imgur.com/O32rVBi . Only the

RE: [neonixie-l] IN-3 Neon Bulbs

2014-03-01 Thread Tidak Ada
To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Subject: [neonixie-l] IN-3 Neon Bulbs Hello All! I bought these for the nixie clocks, http://www.ebay.com/itm/251373901401, and they will work for a bit then start flickering all over in the tube, and lighting up in odd places and not where it should be lighting up

Re: [neonixie-l] IN-3 Neon Bulbs

2014-03-01 Thread Quixotic Nixotic
I bought 1,000 of these and conditioned a whole bunch of them for a ring counter clock. Many of them started to flicker and develop bad habits. I think they are just not very good neons. John S On 1 Mar 2014, at 13:17, Spencer wrote: Hello All! I bought these for the nixie clocks,