Re: [neonixie-l] IN-9 tube gas discrepancies and cathode poisoning issues

2013-01-06 Thread Alex
Tim, spot on! I finished testing and had a nice pile of mis-behaving tubes that would snatch to the other end on the first glimpse of FSD and jump about during ascent and descent. I de-soldered one leg of my reservoir cap so they have a nice 100Hz ripply supply and they all, instantly, work

[neonixie-l] IN-9 tube gas discrepancies and cathode poisoning issues

2013-01-05 Thread Alex
Hi guys, I have been stock piling bar-graph tubes for a while now due to their relatively cheap price and potential for interesting looking clocks or other animated displays. Due to a few being smashed in a recent shipment I decided to sit down and work through testing all 450 or so IN-9's

Re: [neonixie-l] IN-9 tube gas discrepancies and cathode poisoning issues

2013-01-05 Thread Grahame Marsh
Hi Alex I've only used the IN13 (the one with the primer electrode) and they all did as you described initially (despite the primer). I wrote the microcontroller code to repeatedly sweep the tube current up and down over about a second and left a batch of 8 running continuously. I think it

Re: [neonixie-l] IN-9 tube gas discrepancies and cathode poisoning issues

2013-01-05 Thread Tim
Hi Alex, First things first, I love IN-9 tubes and am in the process of making an audio spectrum analyser with them. I have both the orange and violet versions. My violet ones having the purple top and do illuminate with a very purple glow :o) These tubes are trouble and very hard to make

Re: [neonixie-l] IN-9 tube gas discrepancies and cathode poisoning issues

2013-01-05 Thread Alex
Cheers for the replies guys, I suspect that with a bit of running in most of the tubes I have labeled Slight poisoning will come right... It is strange that your purple topped tubes are distinctly different from white topped, maybe I got lucky with my white topped but I defiantly prefer the

Re: [neonixie-l] IN-9 tube gas discrepancies and cathode poisoning issues

2013-01-05 Thread Tim
That is very interesting that you are not using a SMPS and still having the trouble. I have never tried the tubes with a full bridge only a half, I wonder if the difference between 50Hz and 100Hz makes any difference, I cant see why it would. You say you have a large reservoir cap,

Re: [neonixie-l] IN-9 tube gas discrepancies and cathode poisoning issues

2013-01-05 Thread Jon
I spent quite a bit of time with IN9 and IN13 making my one digit 7 segment clock (http://youtu.be/mQ1567EFCY0). Someone was also asking about them over on tubeclockdb.com, and this is how I summarised my experience there: *My recollection is that a batch of neon IN-9 tubes would generally