Re: [neonixie-l] Is /any/ kind of Nixie Multiplex-compatible?

2015-06-07 Thread John Rehwinkel
What is off camera is a regulated lab power supply set at 180 Volts. So, a DC supply, no multiplexing. As you see, one of the other tubes is lit, too! So somehow the anode voltage is capacitively coupling inside the tubes to a nearby cathode and trough that, powering another tube. If

Re: [neonixie-l] Is /any/ kind of Nixie Multiplex-compatible?

2015-06-07 Thread Per Jensen
Well, tried cleaning the board to the extremes, inspecting under microscope, removing the IDC-connector etc. and no change. I’m feeling that i’m overlooking some simple, so i whipped up a set of wires connecting two nixies only by wires - only the 10 cathodes are connected, not the anodes.

Re: [neonixie-l] Is /any/ kind of Nixie Multiplex-compatible?

2015-06-07 Thread David Forbes
Per, Very interesting result. Does this experiment produce the same result with fewer wires connecting the tubes? I so, what number of wires is needed to produce this result? Is there any AC component to your HV power? Does this experiment produce similar results with a different type of

Re: [neonixie-l] Is /any/ kind of Nixie Multiplex-compatible?

2015-06-07 Thread Dan Harboe Burer
Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Is /any/ kind of Nixie Multiplex-compatible? What is off camera is a regulated lab power supply set at 180 Volts. So, a DC supply, no multiplexing. As you see, one of the other tubes is lit, too! So somehow the anode voltage is capacitively coupling inside the tubes

Re: [neonixie-l] Is /any/ kind of Nixie Multiplex-compatible?

2015-06-07 Thread Per Jensen
Well, i guess it’s my own fault starting to describe the “driving”.board when having this problem that i put myself into. What you see on these two pictures is what i am experiencing. No microcontroller, Arduino or shield is used here. Only my homemade board with 4 tubes.

Re: [neonixie-l] Is /any/ kind of Nixie Multiplex-compatible?

2015-06-07 Thread David Forbes
Per, Hi. I built many copies of several types of Nixie clocks about 10-12 years ago, using multiplexing. They worked very well, with no ghosting at all. Things to look for: 1. Ensure that you have a dead time after the anode is turned off, with the same cathode selected, for about a

Re: [neonixie-l] Is /any/ kind of Nixie Multiplex-compatible?

2015-06-07 Thread Dekatron42
Can you show a photo of the ghosting? Do you have more than one tube connected when the ghosting appears or just one? Have you tried biasing resistors on the cathodes? /martin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from

Re: [neonixie-l] Is /any/ kind of Nixie Multiplex-compatible?

2015-06-07 Thread Per Jensen
Please disregard the shield that i am using. It doesn’t exist right now. On my bench i have a 180V power supply, my board, two wires and a resistor. I tried with 2.5 / 3mA current per tube. Connecting the power supply to the anode-pin (Pin4) on the tube trough a suitable resistor for 2.5mA

Re: [neonixie-l] Is /any/ kind of Nixie Multiplex-compatible?

2015-06-07 Thread Dekatron42
This is due to the unused cathodes floating, as they are not supplied with a voltage that ensures that they are turned off - use biasing resistors and they will turn off. Have a look at this thread: http://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/showthread.php?t=82934 where there is a nice circuit

Re: [neonixie-l] Is /any/ kind of Nixie Multiplex-compatible?

2015-06-07 Thread Dekatron42
Also do some tests where you raise the voltage to 200V with a correct anode resistor as some of the Russian datasheets mentions a minimum anode voltage via an anode resistor of 200V to get proper function, 180V is a bit low. You can also try to connect all three of the anodes together, pins 4,

Re: [neonixie-l] Is /any/ kind of Nixie Multiplex-compatible?

2015-06-07 Thread Per Jensen
Did some testing now, I pulled wires off until the problem went away. I only need two wires connected to reproduce the issue! See this: https://www.dropbox.com/s/5vk6bq617v2cz9u/Nixie11.JPG?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/u84kzterr8jfvhm/Nixie12.JPG?dl=0

[neonixie-l] Is /any/ kind of Nixie Multiplex-compatible?

2015-06-06 Thread Per Jensen
Hi. Being a Nixie-hoarder for many years, i’m actually guilty of not having a working clock at home. The only clock i have working is sitting in the local hackerspace. It’s an direct driven design and have been working perfectly for about 6 years now. As i have a million “real” projects that