Re: [neonixie-l] Re: CRISTAL + CAPACITOR = TIME DELAY HELP

2021-07-19 Thread ZY
If you're going with SMD components, you can also try using a SMD crystal to simplify the build process some more. I used this one for example (although currently out of stock, but there are probably similar ones)

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: CRISTAL + CAPACITOR = TIME DELAY HELP

2021-07-19 Thread MrThe50sanchez
Hello! It looks like I was in a Mistake with the datasheet of the crystal, thinking that the 6.0 to 12.5 pf capacitors would be perfect for the time running perfect, But with this configuration, I have like 2 mins of delay in 24H. I really appreciate the help, Just took a quick look and you are

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: CRISTAL + CAPACITOR = TIME DELAY HELP

2021-07-18 Thread gregebert
It is gaining time, or losing time ? If it's losing time, could it be caused by execution delays in your software ? I've seen some really bizarre things happening with my Raspberry Pi based clocks because of the chaotic behavior of Linux, and I have even seen metastability-related failures due

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: CRISTAL + CAPACITOR = TIME DELAY HELP

2021-07-18 Thread Dekatron42
The capacitance you cite from the datasheet is not the recommended capacitance for the external capacitors, it is the load capacitance of the crystal - you must check your ordering document to see which crystal you got unless you can read the information on the crystal itself if it is laser

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: CRISTAL + CAPACITOR = TIME DELAY HELP

2021-07-18 Thread MrThe50sanchez
Hello Again group! I've been testing this for a while, and I still have some delay minutes. This is the PCB design I'm using and components. *Components: * ·PIC16F1936 ·CRYSTAL MS3V-T1R CRYSTAL 32.768 Khz. ·Capacitors ( used 6.0 ; 7.0 ; 9.0 & 12.5) pF as datasheet from crystal recommend.

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: CRISTAL + CAPACITOR = TIME DELAY HELP

2021-05-20 Thread Dekatron42
Since this is a Tuning Fork type of crystal they are sensitive to to much energy and might become damaged if you use them incorrectly. You should read this article: http://ww1.microchip.com/downloads/en/appnotes/91097a.pdf and also read the Microchip application note above that Bill van Dijk

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: CRISTAL + CAPACITOR = TIME DELAY HELP

2021-05-20 Thread MrThe50sanchez
Wow! That's an interesting Idea too! Yes, here in Spain we have a lot of street markets where you can find a lot of electronic waste components. I will let you know How this works out!! Thanks a lot for the help. El jue, 20 may 2021 a las 16:03, jf...@my-deja.com () escribió: > All the cheap

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: CRISTAL + CAPACITOR = TIME DELAY HELP

2021-05-20 Thread Dekatron42
What PIC-controller is the crystal hooked up to? Did you follow the design specifications for using the crystal you chose? /Martin On Thursday, 20 May 2021 at 16:03:55 UTC+2 jf...@my-deja.com wrote: > All the cheap watches and clock movements seem to use the same small > cylindrical crystal.

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: CRISTAL + CAPACITOR = TIME DELAY HELP

2021-05-20 Thread jf...@my-deja.com
All the cheap watches and clock movements seem to use the same small cylindrical crystal. I got many of mine by taking them out of old watches or clocks that had stopped working properly (like worn out gears in a clock). If you do not already have any in your junk box, you should be able to

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: CRISTAL + CAPACITOR = TIME DELAY HELP

2021-05-19 Thread jf...@my-deja.com
As long as you are still trying things, you should try different crystals. Instead of New Old Stock from a surplus electronics dealer (probably from the 1970s wen quality control was not very good), you could take one out of a clock or watch mechanism that does a good job keeping time (the

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: CRISTAL + CAPACITOR = TIME DELAY HELP

2021-05-19 Thread MrThe50sanchez
Hello! First of all I did a new design of the PCB which I added closer track between the cristal and the PIC pins. Also changed from 0603 encapsulated capacitors to 1206 to have a better pad for soldering. These are the test I'm doing thanks to the nixie community and internet research. 1. I'm

[neonixie-l] Re: CRISTAL + CAPACITOR = TIME DELAY HELP

2021-05-19 Thread jf...@my-deja.com
Did you ever get it t run at the correct speed? If so, how did you fix it? On Monday, April 19, 2021 at 1:23:22 AM UTC-7 MrThe50sanchez wrote: > I builded a Nixie watch, It works good, but I'm having a little bit of > time delay, 1* min within 6 hours. * > -- You received this message