Re: [neonixie-l] Help with wiring for Gralex panel meter (with panaplex display)

2016-02-15 Thread David Speck MD
Paolo, It might work, but I would not have gone that route. Injecting high voltage RF into the circuit could easily damage the integrated circuits on the board, thus ruining any change of getting the meter to operate as originally intended. Dave On 2/15/2016 4:11 PM, Paolo Cravero wrote:

Re: [neonixie-l] Help with wiring for Gralex panel meter (with panaplex display)

2016-02-14 Thread Paolo Cravero
Thank you Dave and John. I triple checked my measurements, and ABCD of that transformer are in series. AD is the arithmetical sum of the three values I wrote earlier today. As well as AC is a sum and BD too. Weird, but since I have no diagram whatsoever of the General Microwave 475B power meter I

Re: [neonixie-l] Help with wiring for Gralex panel meter (with panaplex display)

2016-02-14 Thread David Speck MD
John, Yep, You're right. That sounds entirely plausible. Didn't think of that. Dave On 2/14/2016 2:03 PM, John Rehwinkel wrote: I'm not sure what the A-C windings do -- they have a 0.`6 ohms ratio to the B-C pair. With 120 VAC input, that would give you 19 volts, not line isolated. Not

Re: [neonixie-l] Help with wiring for Gralex panel meter (with panaplex display)

2016-02-14 Thread John Rehwinkel
> I'm not sure what the A-C windings do -- they have a 0.`6 ohms ratio to the > B-C pair. With 120 VAC input, that would give you 19 volts, not line > isolated. Not sure what design purpose that would serve. 19 volts is not a > standard input voltage, like 12 or 24 VAC that could conceivably

Re: [neonixie-l] Help with wiring for Gralex panel meter (with panaplex display)

2016-02-14 Thread John Rehwinkel
> I measured DC resistance of the transformer four input pins, those that go > straight to the card connector and here is the result: > AB 58 ohm > BC 358 ohm > CD 712 ohm > > Looks like CD is the whole primary and BC is half of it. I'd measure AD and AC too. - John -- You received this

Re: [neonixie-l] Help with wiring for Gralex panel meter (with panaplex display)

2016-02-14 Thread David Speck MD
Paolo, A variable AC transformer (Variac, Powerstat, and many others) is a pretty basic piece of electrical test equipment, like wire cutters and a screw driver. It's hard to do any sort of interesting electrical experimentation without one. They can often be found on eBay (expensive), or

Re: [neonixie-l] Help with wiring for Gralex panel meter (with panaplex display)

2016-02-12 Thread Nick
Looks very like a Sperry SP-356 Panaplex display... Nick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this

Re: [neonixie-l] Help with wiring for Gralex panel meter (with panaplex display)

2016-02-11 Thread David Speck MD
Paolo, Look at the power input pins on the transformer. If it was designed for 120/240 volt operation, it should have 2 primary windings. They would be connected in parallel for 120 VAC operation, and series for 240 VAC operation. For 240 volt operation, the two center pins of the group of

Re: [neonixie-l] Help with wiring for Gralex panel meter (with panaplex display)

2016-02-11 Thread David Speck MD
Paolo, It should be relatively easy to trace the circuit from the power transformer input pins to the card edge connectors. I would apply AC power through a variable AC autotransformer(e. g. Variac) to those two pins until you reach 120 VAC. The display should start to light by then.

Re: [neonixie-l] Help with wiring for Gralex panel meter (with panaplex display)

2016-02-11 Thread Paolo Cravero
Thank you Dave for the excellent walkthrough procedure. It was used in a 220 VAC country and the input side of the transformer looks like it has 4 pins. Looks like... Anyway, the original device most probably was a General Microwave Power Meter 475B. The online picture from an auction looks

Re: [neonixie-l] Help with wiring for Gralex panel meter (with panaplex display)

2016-02-09 Thread John Rehwinkel
> I have been given a Gralex Industries 475B-10 panel meter. It mounts a > Beckman SP-352 panaplex 4 digit display and I would really like to light it > up as-is since it even contains AC transformer. Nice! > Any chance someone knows how to wire it up, and what kind of meter it is? It > comes