Re: [neonixie-l] NL 7094

2017-01-22 Thread Nicholas Stock
Ah ha! Another 7094 in the wild.I need 5 more! ;) On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 12:28 PM, 'David Weiner' via neonixie-l < neonixie-l@googlegroups.com> wrote: > Could Dalibor Farný try his hand at the giant round NL7094 over 3 inches > around ,all this tube talk made me take one out of the box and

Re: [neonixie-l] NL 7094

2017-01-22 Thread jb-electronics
Well not really, I had to give up five of them. They are in a clock somewhere now, I traded them for some other tubes. Feel better? ;) On 1/22/2017 1:47 PM, Nicholas Stock wrote: Now that's just mean:-) Sent from my iPhone On Jan 22, 2017, at 12:44, jb-electronics

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Interested in B7971

2017-01-22 Thread chuck richards
Many years ago I made a 16-tube array using B-7971 tubes. Made my own driver cards for them, one card per tube. Each of those cards has a storage buffer capable of storing the data for its tube. Each card has 15 driver transistors and 15 cathode resistors. Then I made up a data storage and

[neonixie-l] Re: How ICs are made - the inside track...

2017-01-22 Thread Dekatron42
I just finished reading the article "The Molten Tin Solution" by Rachel Courtland in IEE Spectrum which explains some of the EUV chip-printing technology so this description was a nice view from another side of the complexities of producing ic's, especially as they talked about the problem

Re: [neonixie-l] NL 7094

2017-01-22 Thread Nicholas Stock
Not really...ha ha!! I've resigned myself to the fact it is very unlikely I'll get to make a clock with 6 NL7094's.I was born in the wrong era On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 12:54 PM, jb-electronics < webmas...@jb-electronics.de> wrote: > Well not really, I had to give up five of them. They

Re: [neonixie-l] NL 7094

2017-01-22 Thread jb-electronics
I am not even sure if I woud ever build such a clock. For me these kind of tubes are too precious to be burnt off in some clock. Weird collector's point of view, probably. At some time I had quite a few GR10G (transparent mesh), and I considered building a clock with them, but I decided

[neonixie-l] Re: black box from Czech Republic

2017-01-22 Thread Paul Andrews
Wow. Didn't know about those CD47s. Still saving my pennies for a Zen clock. On Friday, January 20, 2017 at 4:58:42 AM UTC-5, newxito wrote: > > Yesterday I got a really nice black box from the Czech Republic, serial > numbers around 1300. > > I’m looking forward to build my second clock, I will

Re: [neonixie-l] NL 7094

2017-01-22 Thread Nicholas Stock
Now that's just mean:-) Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 22, 2017, at 12:44, jb-electronics wrote: > > There you go ;) Cheers Jens > >> On 1/22/2017 1:35 PM, Nicholas Stock wrote: >> Ah ha! Another 7094 in the wild.I need 5 more! ;) >> >>> On Sun, Jan 22,

Re: [neonixie-l] NL 7094

2017-01-22 Thread Nicholas Stock
I get that Jens, but eventually they will fail...maybe not in 10 or 20 years, but eventually they will de-gas...? I'm a believer in enjoying them whilst you can...life is short. And hey, Dalibor is making new ones, so it's all good! On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 1:05 PM, jb-electronics

[neonixie-l] Re: Another day, another clock

2017-01-22 Thread Roddy Scott
Nice touch using the IN-17s that way, makes for interesting visuals! On Sunday, January 22, 2017 at 4:57:21 AM UTC, Ben W wrote: > > Thought I would share another clock I just finished! These are IN-12's and > IN-17's inside an old Numechron clock housing using a 3D printed mounting > bracket.

[neonixie-l] Re: Wifi adapter for NCS314

2017-01-22 Thread Paul Andrews
I transfered my breadboard implementation to perfboard so that it fits under the NCS314 shield. The last time I had made anything from perfboard was a RAM card for the Apple II. That worked first time. This way way way simpler perfboard took way too many attempts to get right. If I had a

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: black box from Czech Republic

2017-01-22 Thread Dalibor Farný
Just to make it clear - one day, I would like to develop a big tube like CD47. We currently produce only the R|Z568M tubes (which makes our little team really bussy), the only new tube in development is the colon tube for Zen clocks. Best, Dalibor On Sun, 22 Jan 2017 at 21:32, Paul Andrews

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Interested in B7971

2017-01-22 Thread gregebert
Yes, I have specific per-segment current limiting. The circuit is simple (NPN transistor with emitter resistor). I aslo have a current-limiter at the anode. The problem with the 7971 datasheet numbers is that if you add-up all of the spec-value segment currents for an '8' character it's 40mA.

[neonixie-l] Re: How ICs are made - the inside track...

2017-01-22 Thread gregebert
Thanks for posting. To put things into perspective, I was working on a 40nm project (the above posting mentions 40-40nm process technology) 10 years ago, and we actually switched it to 32nm. And that was also 10 years ago. A lot has changed since then. You wouldn't believe the things we did to

[neonixie-l] Re: How ICs are made - the inside track...

2017-01-22 Thread Roddy Scott
I started in PCB manufacture with 'punch and crunch' double sided PCBs and ended up maintaining 24 layer 4 thou track and gap equipment which was cutting edge at the time. Spent 11 1/2 years in CMP going from 64nm on 200mm wafers to 14nm on 300mm wafers. Now 7nm on 400mm wafers are on the

[neonixie-l] How ICs are made - the inside track...

2017-01-22 Thread Nick
A friend who is one of only a handful of lens designers for modern FABs (IC fabrication plants) recently wrote up the following - It explains some of the enormous complexity of IC photo-lithography - amazing stuff really... read and enjoy... Nick ICs are produced by depositing layers of

[neonixie-l] Re: Interested in B7971

2017-01-22 Thread Luka C
I'm actually planning on designing my own PCB for it with exact current limiting for each segment as per datasheet. Did you do the same or did you install just one anode resistor and how important is it to stick to the datasheet in that sense? Dana nedjelja, 22. siječnja 2017. u 06:13:02 UTC+1,