Re: [neonixie-l] Very useful Burroughs application note/brochure #616

2016-08-05 Thread Charles MacDonald
On 16-08-05 08:51 AM, Nick wrote: The enclosed Burroughs brochure #616 thanks, a lot of information is one place. In skimming I noticed a reference to the "characteristic Blue" of the long life tubes. I guess that confirms the blue spots and the inclusion of mercury that keeps coming up on

Re: [neonixie-l] Burroughs Panaplex II clock display...

2016-08-05 Thread gregebert
Kr85 has a 10-year half-life, so displays manufactured in the 1980's will have about 10% of the radioactivity they once had. I recall reading somewhere that Kr85 was optional in displays; generally intended for low or zero ambient-lighting conditions. So even if your display's radioactivity

Re: [neonixie-l] Burroughs Panaplex II clock display...

2016-08-05 Thread taylorjpt
The Kr85 is a gas in the tube that decomposes by beta decay to supply an ionization potential to allow the display discharge to start quickly. The beta particles can't penetrate glass or ceramic of the envelope but when broken open you can read it with a Geiger counter. The segment cathode

Re: [neonixie-l] Burroughs Panaplex II clock display...

2016-08-05 Thread John Rehwinkel
> Ah I see. That has me wondering what a nixie tube made completely out of > uranium glass would look like. It would have a slight greenish-yellow tint, and would fluoresce brightly in UV. I wonder how much UV a nixie discharge creates. - John -- You received this message because you are

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: XC24...

2016-08-05 Thread 'Grahame' via neonixie-l
I did try matching the XC18s and they did work of sorts. But the slow realisation came that they didn't work in the dark. I've had no problem with Z700U trigger tubes wired back to back without matching. Nick, for your next trick find a few boxes of Z700W dual trigger tubes... Grahame On

[neonixie-l] Re: XC24...

2016-08-05 Thread Dekatron42
That's strange, I've built a few circuits from old magazines where the XC18s were used in just that way and those circuits never failed me. The only thing I can think of that I did that you might not have done is that I aged my XC18s so that I knew that they were striking and working within

[neonixie-l] Re: XC24...

2016-08-05 Thread Nick
Whilst wiring two XC-18s together *should* work fine, it doesn't reliably as they two tubes would need to be perfectly matched, and they never are... Grahame and I both tried it without too much success... Not fired up these XC-24s yet... Nick -- You received this message because you are

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Burroughs Panaplex II clock display...

2016-08-05 Thread ZY
Ah I see. That has me wondering what a nixie tube made completely out of uranium glass would look like. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[neonixie-l] Re: XC24...

2016-08-05 Thread Dekatron42
The XC24 have two trigger electrodes, otherwise it's identical to the XC18 - you can wire two XC18s back to back with anodes and cathodes together to get the same function. I do have these in bulk packing but I've never seen the box for individual ones, it is really nice! /Martin On Friday, 5

[neonixie-l] Re: XC24...

2016-08-05 Thread Keith Moore
That is an incredible find! And the box is amazing! I have never heard of these. I searched and it went right to Grahame's wonderful trigger tube clock. So this is a 4 electrode trigger tube. Do tell! That box image is going to either inspire me or give me nightmares. My guess is both. -

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Burroughs Panaplex II clock display...

2016-08-05 Thread JohnK
Try this... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krypton-85 You might be surprised at the number of tubes that over the years have had 'radioactive' contents. Many gas discharge devices had it added to regularise the characteristics for light/dark operation (trigger tubes and regulators) or their

[neonixie-l] Re: Burroughs Panaplex II clock display...

2016-08-05 Thread ZY
What does the Kr85 stand for? I see it on one of my displays too. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post