RE: [neonixie-l] $120 IN-14s

[Michail Wilson]

Explains why he hasn’t sold any since 2018 (which were at a lower value anyway).

 

 

Michail Wilson

206-920-6312

 

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Subject: [neonixie-l] $120 IN-14s

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/IN-14-ultrarare-fine-grid-nixie-tubes-USSR-indicator-digit-for-DIY-clock-NOS/112087785078?hash=item1a18f3de76:g:ME0AAOSwbWZaZigZ

 

More "ultrarare" buffoonery...

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Re: [neonixie-l] $120 IN-14s

[Kevin A.]

I've also purchased from vanna in the past. Managed to get some fine grid
IN-8s with solid pins (like regular socketable IN-8s) at a reasonable
price.

He does (or did) accept reasonable offers but his asking price is out of
control on this one. It's not even worth a quarter of what he's asking...

On Fri, Jun 28, 2019, 11:22 PM Nicholas Stock  wrote:

> What The F$??
>
> I’ve purchased from him too, very reasonablethat’s just crazy.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Jun 28, 2019, at 20:19, Jon Jackson  wrote:
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> Up until now, that seller had been reasonable.  I've bought a few things
> from him.  Now he's got the greed disease...
>
> On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 9:15 PM Kevin A. 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/IN-14-ultrarare-fine-grid-nixie-tubes-USSR-indicator-digit-for-DIY-clock-NOS/112087785078?hash=item1a18f3de76:g:ME0AAOSwbWZaZigZ
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Re: [neonixie-l] $120 IN-14s

[Nicholas Stock]

What The F$??

I’ve purchased from him too, very reasonablethat’s just crazy.

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> On Jun 28, 2019, at 20:19, Jon Jackson  wrote:
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> Up until now, that seller had been reasonable.  I've bought a few things from 
> him.  Now he's got the greed disease...
> 
>> On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 9:15 PM Kevin A.  
>> wrote:
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/IN-14-ultrarare-fine-grid-nixie-tubes-USSR-indicator-digit-for-DIY-clock-NOS/112087785078?hash=item1a18f3de76:g:ME0AAOSwbWZaZigZ
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Re: [neonixie-l] $120 IN-14s

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Up until now, that seller had been reasonable.  I've bought a few things
from him.  Now he's got the greed disease...

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[neonixie-l] $120 IN-14s

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/IN-14-ultrarare-fine-grid-nixie-tubes-USSR-indicator-digit-for-DIY-clock-NOS/112087785078?hash=item1a18f3de76:g:ME0AAOSwbWZaZigZ

More "ultrarare" buffoonery...

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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Mullard ZM1200 Pandicon available

[Charles MacDonald]

On 2019-06-28 5:04 a.m., Roddy Scott wrote:
EDIT - Philips bought out Mullard in 1928 but still marketed tubes under 
the Mullard label - I should use Wikipedia more often! Valvo was a 
German company 


Philips was a company of many names.  they had an internal system of 
etch marks with a code for date, design and factory that made a given 
tube.  (not sure if the "specials" would get the full code.)


in each country they sold tubes they used the "local" name, like Mullard 
generaly a firm they had bought over the years.  So Amperex, Philips, 
Miniwatt, Rogers, Pope, Mullard, and several others were all valid, and 
often were applied by the local distributor.


https://frank.pocnet.net/other/Philips/PhilipsCodeListAB.pdf

 is proably a good start

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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Really??

[martin martin]

Kinda high, but you have to admit it’s a fine looking display.   I like the
4

On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 12:36 Nicholas Stock  wrote:

> That, as they say, takes the biscuit.
>
> You can still get those for *a lot less than that*.
>
> On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 12:31 PM Roddy Scott 
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>> Pramancin,
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>>
>> How about this Z568M
>> 
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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Really??

[Nicholas Stock]

That, as they say, takes the biscuit.

You can still get those for *a lot less than that*.

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> Pramancin,
>
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> How about this Z568M
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[neonixie-l] Re: Really??

[Roddy Scott]

Pramancin,

the lunacy does not stop there.

How about this Z568M 

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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: 8091 assembly

[jb-electronics]

The CD27 clock is my favorite :)

On 2019-06-28 11:32 a.m., Paul Andrews wrote:
Here are my NL8091, CD27 and CD47 one-tube-clocks. Hopefully the 
rotation will be correct when you see these. The NL8091 doesn't really 
have a dedicated clock, I just plugged it into a base I use for 
multiple tubes:


IMG_3776.JPG

IMG_3777.JPG




IMG_3548.JPG



On Friday, June 28, 2019 at 12:10:32 PM UTC-4, Bill Notfaded wrote:

There is a guy with a bunch but he wants like 1200$+ each for
them.  Most of the people here have seen them.

On Friday, June 28, 2019 at 8:59:39 AM UTC-7, Kevin A. wrote:

Is anyone selling CD47s? 

On Fri, Jun 28, 2019, 11:29 AM gregebert 
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Wouldn't you rather have a CD47 ?
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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: 8091 assembly

[Nicholas Stock]

Nice to see a CD47 actually *being used*great clocks Paul.

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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: 8091 assembly

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I love them Paul... your boards are awesome too!

Bill

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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: 8091 assembly

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There is a guy with a bunch but he wants like 1200$+ each for them.  Most 
of the people here have seen them.

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[neonixie-l] Re: About high prices.. best things come cheap

[Bill Notfaded]

I like this story Jonathan... really nice finding the CD27 for that price!  
The others are great scores as well.

Bill

On Sunday, April 21, 2019 at 11:38:01 AM UTC-7, SWISSNIXIE - Jonathan F. 
wrote:
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> There are a few posts about high prices of tubes, and i feel like quite 
> alot of people are sad and worried about this. I want to share a little 
> story of mine about tubes.
>
> Since a few of you know, i'm more a collector than a builder. I want to 
> collect single tubes and expand my diverse collection of nixies. In the 
> roughly four years i'm collecting this tubes i came across dozens of 
> auctions with ridicolous high prices. When the few months were over where i 
> was busy getting most of the common tubes (IN-XX, ZM10XX) i searched for 
> less known (or more rare) tubes. After seeing the first auctions of rare 
> tubes going for crazy prices, i was quite sad and felt like "man, you never 
> will get any rare tubes". Still i was curious about nixie tubes an focussed 
> more about actually building a clock and learn more about these fantastic 
> wonders of technology. Auctions came less interesting and i only checked my 
> ebay-tool once a day. After some months i was taught that actually waiting 
> and being patient does the job. In two years i aquiered quite a few rare 
> and extremely rare tubes, which actually were extremely cheap, compared to 
> other acutions. 
>
> One of the biggest "secrets" is actually to ask sellers if the have more, 
> and provide a few info about what you do with them.
>
> Here are my "Top 4":
>
> 4.)  ZM562M2 and M3
>
> These are german elevator nixies, one has arrows, one has letters. I 
> aquired them from a german ebayer, i actually purchased a set of B5092 from 
> him, and asked if he has other nixies. He respondes with a few single 
> quanities and "two weird ones, that no one could use". After asking for a 
> image, they turned out as these rather rare tubes. Got them both for 10€
>
> 3.) ZM1220
>
> This very rare and rather big tube made it to me by luck. I was bidding on 
> a carton box of different tubes, containig a few nixies. On the very bad 
> pictures i thought its gonna be a Z566M, but when the package arrived, i 
> was amazed about this wonderful tube. I payed only 45€ for the whole box, 
> which containd a few other common tubes. 
>
> 2.) CD-27
> I purchased some rodan character tubes from a german ebayer. After asking 
> about more, and getting "yes some very ugly big ones" i requested images 
> about them :). It turned out to be CD27 with black spots. He asked 75€ for 
> them. I purchased them. When they arrived, alot of the black spots was only 
> dirt and could be cleaned. Leaving me with on perfect and two slightly 
> burned out ones. Out of respect i contacted the seller and offered him 
> another 50€. Making 125€ for all of them, which is still a very cheap price 
> for this tubes. One slightly burnded out one made a very nice trade with 
> another collector
>
> 1.) GI-11B
>
> This is for sure the most amazing tube ever. After buying a few old 
> burroughs tubes, including the HB-106, the seller told me about a few more 
> he has, but don't want so sell them since they are single pieces, old, and 
> he doesn't think someone needs them. As i'm very curious for new types, i 
> asked him what markings they had. Most were comon, but GI-11B came up. I 
> replied that it must be GI-10 or so. No it wasn't, he told me about that 
> its saying clearly "GI-11B Engineering Sample"... That rang bells. I asked 
> if i can see an image. He told me about this former job at a electronics 
> repair shop, that closed over 60years of operation, and left alot of stuff 
> behind. After i told him about my hobby he was really enyoed that young 
> people (like me) are still interested in such old stuff. End of the story 
> was, that the offered me the tube for 10$ because of its oddity. I 
> declinded the offer, paying only 10$ for such a tube would been ripping of, 
> its likely he did not realize what value this tube has (materialistic and 
> historical). I made him a better deal. 
> This is my personal favourite tube - for one because of it rarity and 
> specialit - for another because of the story
>
>
> What i wanted to tell you with this, is that you not should feel bad or 
> sad about tubes that are at a high price currently. If you have time and 
> just keeping an eye on offers, one day you will find a very good deal for 
> sure.One big "issue" about the high prices might be social media. I have a 
> personal instagram account (not related to nixies) and i spot nixie tubes 
> quite often in the discover feed on technical pages. This for sure draws 
> the attention of more people to nixies who have not known them yet. This is 
> bad and good in one way, sure its nice when there are more people 
> interested in nixie tubes, but mostly those new people are the ones that 
> just "like to have a vintage clock" instead of knowing the details. Thats 
> quite the 

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: 8091 assembly

[Kevin A.]

Is anyone selling CD47s? 

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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: 8091 assembly

[Nicholas Stock]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/NIXIE-GIANT-TUBE-3-034-IN-DIA-National-Electronics-NL-8091-FULLY-TESTED-SET-OF-10-/283530773308?&_trksid=p2056016.l4276

Let the party begin

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[neonixie-l] Re: 8091 assembly

[Bill Notfaded]

Not for 1200$ for one tube... maybe half that and even then it's a lot to 
swallow for one tube.  Actually I think the CD27 is rarer than the CD47 if 
I'm not mistaken.

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[neonixie-l] Re: 8091 assembly

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Wouldn't you rather have a CD47 ?

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[neonixie-l] Re: 8091 assembly

[Bill Notfaded]

Paul the guy the seller mentioned in the post mentioned to me a few months 
ago that a friend of his had a bunch of these tubes and that he would be 
testing them for him.  I had almost forgotten about it until this post came 
up on the bay.  The other three tubes I got this year were from two other 
auctions and actually I think one cost more than this.  How often do you 
see B-8091's come up for sale?  In some respects they're priceless because 
you just can't really buy them often.  I draw the line at some point 
though... I want this tube too but it's just a bridge too 
far:  
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Nixie-RODAN-CD27-tube-OKAYA-ELECT-CD-27-big-numeric-indicator-tube/113731162944

Bill

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> You guys all knew I was collecting these... they're really hard to find 
> now so I decided since I knew the guy that tested them this was as good a 
> chance as any to get a few more.  I'm sure I paid up a little but it took 
> me a year to collect 3 so 5 more this quick is win as far as I'm concerned.
>
> Bill
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[neonixie-l] Re: 8091 assembly

[Bill Notfaded]

You guys all knew I was collecting these... they're really hard to find now 
so I decided since I knew the guy that tested them this was as good a 
chance as any to get a few more.  I'm sure I paid up a little but it took 
me a year to collect 3 so 5 more this quick is win as far as I'm concerned.

Bill

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[neonixie-l] Re: Modified projection display clock

[Bill Notfaded]

I really like the font you used!

Bill

On Friday, June 21, 2019 at 6:01:39 PM UTC-7, Swan Donovan wrote:
>
> Here's a group of projection displays I modified to display digits and am 
> using a esp8266 to drive serial rgb LEDs. Feel free to ask any questions. 
> More info can be found on my Instagram page: sexzual_hotdog, and I have a 
> couple of videos up on the process on my YouTube channel: AllAboutHotdogs. 
>  I'm looking for other incandescent displays of any time if anyone has some 
> in their collection they're willing to part with.

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[neonixie-l] Re: Two Tube Clock

[Bill Notfaded]

That's really unique 4 sure!  It's totally different!

Bill

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[neonixie-l] Re: 8091 assembly

[Bill Notfaded]

Thanks Greg... yeah I don't know the seller but I do know his tech and 
they're good friends so I think I'm safe at least.  He seemed really happy 
to hook me up once he knew I knew Paul.

Bill

On Friday, June 28, 2019 at 7:41:09 AM UTC-7, Greg P wrote:
>
> Good luck Bill.  My experience with the seller wasn't positive.  Hope you 
> have a much better outcome.
>
>
>
> On Friday, June 28, 2019 at 10:26:38 AM UTC-4, Bill Notfaded wrote:
>>
>> it's mine now at a reduced price... I realized I knew the tech he 
>> referred to as a friend of mine from a tech forum called thwack.  It's 
>> legit. ;^}
>>
>> Bill
>>
>> On Wednesday, June 26, 2019 at 9:31:14 AM UTC-7, SWISSNIXIE - Jonathan F. 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Spottet this on ebay, if anyone is interested:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/NIXIE-GIANT-TUBE-3-IN-DIA-BURROUGHS-B8091-FULLY-TESTED-SET-OF-5/283528668460
>>> ?
>>>
>>> And not such a "bad" price for this rare B8091s... i
>>>
>>

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Re: [neonixie-l] Decimal clock parts found!

[Bill Notfaded]

Those are really neat I almost bought 8 of those but I have too many 
projects on the drawing board right now...  really neat clock.

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[neonixie-l] Re: 8091 assembly

['Greg P' via neonixie-l]

Good luck Bill.  My experience with the seller wasn't positive.  Hope you 
have a much better outcome.



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> it's mine now at a reduced price... I realized I knew the tech he referred 
> to as a friend of mine from a tech forum called thwack.  It's legit. ;^}
>
> Bill
>
> On Wednesday, June 26, 2019 at 9:31:14 AM UTC-7, SWISSNIXIE - Jonathan F. 
> wrote:
>>
>> Spottet this on ebay, if anyone is interested:
>>
>>
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/NIXIE-GIANT-TUBE-3-IN-DIA-BURROUGHS-B8091-FULLY-TESTED-SET-OF-5/283528668460
>> ?
>>
>> And not such a "bad" price for this rare B8091s... i
>>
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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: World's largest "Nixie" clock?

[Bill Notfaded]

This one?  
https://01001088309378115754.googlegroups.com/attach/62816c525af6/IMG_20190613_204148.jpg?part=0.2=1=ANaJVrHC6gflrEoBH5F4TBlWS1_XfpGL8V78zvMsRacTeGz64kt4xzWCdx_7emYueJcKDQv7CbSZcEHN9s6JIpSyGyPD3xknDJ0f9Lsw0g7PF-3tQioetzM


On Wednesday, June 26, 2019 at 2:59:14 AM UTC-7, Tidak Ada wrote:
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> I missed the  the link to the photo and accidentally deleted the message. 
> Please can anybody place the link again?
>
> eric
>
> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone
>
> Op 26 jun. 2019 om 07:28 heeft Dan Harboe Burer  > het volgende geschreven:
>
> I live in Denmark; I remember as a kid, seeing the clock for the first 
> time back in the 1970's.
> During the 1990's the station was renovated and the clock temporarily 
> dismantled. I was keeping an eye on that it came back - if not I would have 
> gotten in touch with DSB to save it :)
>
> Dan
>
> On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 5:39 AM gregebert  > wrote:
>
>> Take a close look at the Copenhagen clock; you can see how the digits are 
>> formed with a mix of straight and curved segments.
>> It's much more aesthetic than a 7-segment display, and much simpler than 
>> a nixie tube with 10 cathodes.
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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: World's largest "Nixie" clock?

[Bill Notfaded]

http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fhabitat-bulles.com%2Fphilips-museum-evoluon-1966-eindhoven-sud-pays-bas%2F=D=1=AFQjCNH02UMKRCgriOIw2wYGlE_fPrE4Lw

There you go...

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[neonixie-l] Re: Welcome & please introduce yourself!

[Bill Notfaded]

Not a tube amp but I'm rebuilding a nice Hafler DH-500 now.  Good old rock 
solid power!  I love the filter caps in these babies!

Bill

On Monday, June 24, 2019 at 5:28:47 PM UTC-7, L P wrote:
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> Hi..Leif here. Started out as most young lads with interest in 
> electronics, by taking apart old electronics, had components scattered all 
> over my room, and to my mom's horror stuck in the carpet..  I thought a 
> career in electronics was my future, but when I took some classes, boy was 
> it dry..A little too dry for me...So I settled on chemistry..  but I never 
> stopped tinkering with electronics, made a pile of PCB's. murdered some 
> more carpet and got into tube amps a few years back, built some of Pete 
> Millett's tube amps..very cool stuff..did at the same time built a nixie 
> clock kit of ebay..loved the look.. ..Fast forward, now i'm trying to know 
> more about them magic glowing tubes..so thanks for sharing the knowledge... 
>
> On Wednesday, September 19, 2018 at 10:03:23 AM UTC-5, neonixie-l wrote:
>>
>> Ladies & Gentlemen,,,
>>
>> We are getting a steady stream of new members - it'd be great if, instead 
>> of just lurking, you could introduce yourselves with a bit of detail about 
>> your interests, what you've built or intend to build/dream of building. 
>> Even what gets you up the morning and makes you smile!
>>
>> Even existing members (there are over 1,000) could chip in - there's some 
>> great stuff around...
>>
>> Welcome, one and all to this great community!
>>
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[neonixie-l] Re: 8091 assembly

[Bill Notfaded]

it's mine now at a reduced price... I realized I knew the tech he referred 
to as a friend of mine from a tech forum called thwack.  It's legit. ;^}

Bill

On Wednesday, June 26, 2019 at 9:31:14 AM UTC-7, SWISSNIXIE - Jonathan F. 
wrote:
>
> Spottet this on ebay, if anyone is interested:
>
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/NIXIE-GIANT-TUBE-3-IN-DIA-BURROUGHS-B8091-FULLY-TESTED-SET-OF-5/283528668460
> ?
>
> And not such a "bad" price for this rare B8091s... i
>

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[neonixie-l] Re: Really??

[Bill Notfaded]

I thought the same thing... that stupid japanese anime movie has warped 
people's minds apparently...

B

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Re: [neonixie-l] Got a spare $1000?

[Bill Notfaded]

It'll all depend on whether after cutting some more out of the sides 
whether I will be able to squeeze 6 tubes in there or not...  I don't want 
to move the handles really.  I suppose I better get out the Digital Vernier 
and check maybe this weekend...

Bill

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Re: [neonixie-l] Got a spare $1000?

[Bill Notfaded]

Funny I found out the tech Paul the seller refers to is a friend of mine... 
suffice it say the tubes are on their way to me at a reduced price now!  I 
have three others so it looks like it's finally time to build a 6 tube rack 
mount clock!  I found an old 9600 baud rack mount firebird like tester 
thing for serial communications... I think it might make a nice starting 
point it's called a INTERNATIONAL DATA SCIENCES TDM-MODEN TEST SET, MODEL 
1310, RACK MOUNT.

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Re: [neonixie-l] 8091 assembly

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I received a message from Ebay the 5 tubes sold for 1100 USD.


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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Anyone still make dekatron spinners or have any pcb's or kits?

[Bill Notfaded]

Thanks Martin!

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Re: [neonixie-l] 8091 assembly

['Greg P' via neonixie-l]

Jens,

I don't personally care what he prices them at, I'm all for capitalism. (my 
issue with the seller was how he verbally attacked me when I made him an 
offer privately for all 25pcs before he put the listing on ebay)  It was 
really strange.  I just wanted to inform potential buyers this guy is 
volatile and was playing games.

On Friday, June 28, 2019 at 1:22:26 AM UTC-4, Jens Boos wrote:
>
> I guess I just don't understand why people get so upset. Let him put them 
> up for $1,000. Or $10,000. Who cares? They are his, and he can set the 
> price. Nobody is forcing anybody to buy them :)
>
> Jens
>
> On 2019-06-27 10:39 p.m., gregebert wrote:
>
> >Jens Boos wrote: 
>>
>> To be fair, even for used tubes $200 for a set of 5 is a tad optimistic 
>> ;-)
>>
>
> Absolutely! Since I'm not dead-set on building an 8091-based clock, I'm 
> only bidding opportunistically.
> If I got them, they would go into a box until I have time to build 
> something a few years from now.
>
> It's too easy to get caught-up in nixie-tube bidding based on how much you 
> might want a particular tube (I'm an addict, and I want themwhat can I 
> say ???), so I've cut-out the emotional part of how I value a tube, and 
> base my bid on cost for a given size relative to other available tubes. No 
> surprise, I lose a lot of auctions. But at least my garage doesn't look 
> like an episode of 'Extreme Hoarders' on TV.
>
> The 1.375" (35mm)  character-height of a b8091 is less than a IN-18 
> (40mm), and these b8091 tubes have an undocumented history.
> They are substantially smaller than the RZ568m, which is brand-new, has a 
> 10-year warranty, and in my opinion has better construction.
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Re: [neonixie-l] 8091 assembly

[Alex]

On the plus side, when people over speculate on items it makes it a good 
opportunity to sell your own, if you have any to sell. Makes them look much 
cheaper :-)

Having something for sale for a long time at a very high price makes it 
harder to shift for a normal price later on, is my usual experience. I tend 
to just plump for listing at about 25% more than I realisticly would expect 
something to sell for and enable best offer and see what happens.

Money for old rope in those units though, he should for sure do it as an 
auction, especially if he has 5 of the things?

- Alex

On Friday, 28 June 2019 06:22:26 UTC+1, Jens Boos wrote:
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> I guess I just don't understand why people get so upset. Let him put them 
> up for $1,000. Or $10,000. Who cares? They are his, and he can set the 
> price. Nobody is forcing anybody to buy them :)
>
> Jens
>
>

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Re: [neonixie-l] 8091 assembly

[Dekatron42]

The price is his to set at whatever level he wants but his way of treating 
people is an altogether different thing. He hopes to get lucky when he adds up 
all the information he has gathered on these quite rare Nixies and that’s ok 
with me, there will probably be people with enough money ti buy thembut they 
will also know to wait a while on a better price, but my personal experience 
and what I’ve read on how he treated other people here means that I won’t buy 
anything from him with my economy in mind - however if I win the lottery I 
might change my mind! :)

/Martin

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[neonixie-l] Re: Mullard ZM1200 Pandicon available

[Roddy Scott]

EDIT - Philips bought out Mullard in 1928 but still marketed tubes under 
the Mullard label - I should use Wikipedia more often! Valvo was a German 
company - Valvo started as Radio-Roehren-Fabrik GmbH (RRF GmbH) in 1924 as 
the vacuum tube manufactuing arm of C.H.F. Mueller GmbH which only produced 
X-ray tubes. The company was renamed Valvo in 1926. Phillips bought C.H.F. 
Mueller in 1927 and Valvo in 1932. The company was split in the 1980s and 
sold in 1999.


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[neonixie-l] Re: Mullard ZM1200 Pandicon available

[Roddy Scott]

While waiting on this to be delivered I have searched out what available 
information I can find in regards to the ZM1200 Pandicon.

The developing company was Philips/Mullard consortium and it appeared 
labelled by both and Valvo who were pointed out as also being in the same 
consortium.

Finding data sheets from all 3 has not been a success as I can only find 
those from Philips dated 1970 on Dieter Wachter's extensive listings, much 
copied and displayed in other data sheet sites. There is also another data 
sheet dated 1969 for the Philips version elsewhere that I just found. (edit)

The development version seemed to have been produced in quite a large 
quantity at the time before the introduction of the production version with 
the differences being the mesh patterns, square in the development one and 
hexagonal in the production one. Development versions also had the label on 
the back of the tube stating that it was a development sample and that 
further supplies were not guaranteed.

Information from a collector states that the development versions had 
serial numbers etched or stamped on the rear plate and on the photos he 
posted the production version was white ink stamped with 'Philips ZM1200'. 
The tube I posted initially has 'Mullard, ZM1200, Made in Holland' white 
inked on the rear, I have seen a Valvo version with the white ink stamping 
and also a Philips one with a printed label on the rear. 
Examples of the smaller versions such as the ZM1206, has an 'Amperex, Made 
in Holland' label (photo) 
, while a ZM1202 has 
Valvo ZM1202 white ink stamped on it as does a ZM1204. The Valvo stampings 
can be seen here on Udo Radtke's 
 collection.

The rarity of the ZM12xx series make it difficult to get accurate 
information on them and any further info would be much appreciated.

Roddy

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