Re: [neonixie-l] 3rd try! Mullard Z700 U trigger tubes

2011-03-13 Thread Grahame Marsh
Tim I've ordered some Z700U tubes from this seller as well now - thanks for the lead. Do you want to swap design ideas and layouts (I use Eagle)? I have posted the question here in case anyone else is interested as well. The Philips equivalent (Z70U) application note is available here

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: 3rd try! Mullard Z700 U trigger tubes

2011-03-23 Thread Grahame Marsh
Some XC24 did go on Ebay - perhaps a year ago now - I missed the auction totally but did ask the vendor if he had more but alas not. However, your suggestion Nick, of using a pair back to back does work fine. In fact mullard documentation suggest that - i.e. using two Z700U rather than a

[neonixie-l] Re: Cold Cathode Tube Circuit Design DM Neale 1965

2011-03-23 Thread Grahame Marsh
No response so I'll get scanning... It is a book of worked examples and design procedures BTW. On 22/03/2011 16:59, Grahame Marsh wrote: I have a copy of this book - I have looked (google) around to see if exists as a pdf but haven't found a copy. So I thought I would check here before I

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: 3rd try! Mullard Z700 U trigger tubes

2011-03-24 Thread Grahame Marsh
Hi My understanding is that Z70U and Z700U (and Z70W/Z700W) are identical parts labelled by Mullard and Philips respectively. Ref: pages 49 65 Dance Electronic Counting Circuits. Dance shows them together in the data tables and electrically identical. When I get a beast (in the post) I

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: 3rd try! Mullard Z700 U trigger tubes

2011-03-25 Thread Grahame Marsh
of Glimmröhren und Kaltkatoden-Relaisröhren; Radio Praktiker Bücherei 28; Franzis Verlag by Otto paul Herrnkind (160 pages). Kind regards, eric -Original Message- From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Grahame Marsh Sent: donderdag 24 maart

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: 3rd try! Mullard Z700 U trigger tubes

2011-03-29 Thread Grahame Marsh
booklet. There is an other guy intrested too. eric -Original Message- From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Grahame Marsh Sent: vrijdag 25 maart 2011 13:13 To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Re: 3rd try! Mullard Z700 U

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: 3rd try! Mullard Z700 U trigger tubes

2011-03-29 Thread Grahame Marsh
. May be you can start with pages that apply to my problems sooner, but tyhat's up to you. Cheers, eric -Original Message- From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Grahame Marsh Sent: dinsdag 29 maart 2011 9:52 To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Neon ring counter nixie clock

2011-08-09 Thread Grahame Marsh
Hi I built a clock using XC18 trigger tubes http://www.sgitheach.org.uk/nixie3.html As a clock it worked well as long as it was kept in the light. Left in total darkness overnight it would be 50:50 what you would find in the morning. I ran it under a small UV lamp and it survived every

Re: [neonixie-l] Giant 7 segment clock using IN13 bargraphs

2011-10-06 Thread Grahame Marsh
Jens I put the provision into the clock software but it is set to zero. Alan Flowers build is set to zero as well. But you've spotted a mistake on web page for me ... seconds per week. Grahame On 06/10/2011 06:15, jb-electronics wrote: Looks nice, especially the serial connection to

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Spinner Driven by 0A5 Gas Trigger

2011-12-17 Thread Grahame Marsh
On 17/12/2011 20:33, threeneurons wrote: Lots This one's less violent http://www.sgitheach.org.uk/spinner1.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Spinner Driven by 0A5 Gas Trigger

2011-12-19 Thread Grahame Marsh
On 18/12/2011 21:43, threeneurons wrote: Circuit goes back to 1955. I wasn't even born yet. Yep, neither was I. I am concerned that I'm abusing the trigger electrode by discharging a capacitor into it. BTW, Mike, could you post a link to your all valve/tube relaxtion driven dekatron - I

Re: [neonixie-l] Beginner friendly VFD PSU circuit

2011-12-19 Thread Grahame Marsh
I am interested in building a IV-11 clock from scratch, and have Maxim 1771s, inductors around 1000 uH, and IRFD220s on hand but am open to ordering whatever parts I need. I'm most interested in solutions for generating the grid voltage, but ideally am looking for a nice circuit for both

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Spinner Driven by 0A5 Gas Trigger

2011-12-19 Thread Grahame Marsh
On 19/12/2011 17:43, threeneurons wrote: 230V might be tough. ... Thanks for your thoughts. The conclusion I had come to was much the same: use a 0-115 0-115 transformer with 12V secondaries. Might even use a HV secondary to achieve mains isolation. I'll have to rummage around to see what

[neonixie-l] All valve dekatron spinner (yet another)

2012-01-30 Thread Grahame Marsh
Following in Mike Moorress' footsteps... I finally finished my 230V operation all valve dekatron spinner http://www.sgitheach.org.uk/spinner2.html Enjoy Grahame -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Nixie clock with vacuum tubes

2012-02-08 Thread Grahame Marsh
Eric My cold cathode (using XC18) all-valve clock only works in the light, the rings fail if the clock is left in the dark. So that clock is now a demo one only. But it did run without fault if I kept it in the light. I've bought enough Z700U trigger tubes to build another trigger tube

[neonixie-l] Cold cathode discharge tubes [by] J. R. Acton [and] J. D. Swift ... Acton, John Reginald

2012-02-18 Thread Grahame Marsh
Hi Not sure if this has been posed before I found this online book at http://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.31822012480398 Not a book for practical designs but deals mostly with the physics of what happens in a cold cathode tube. Enjoy Grahame -- You received this message because you

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Behavior of nixie tube

2012-02-18 Thread Grahame Marsh
I just posted a link to Acton Swift Neale is here (download a pdf and read online) : http://www.archive.org/details/ColdCathodeTubeCircuitDesign Glowlamp manual is here: http://www.scribd.com/doc/34672942/General-Electric-Glow-Lamp-Manual-2nd-Edition Any more links folks? On the yahoo site

Re: [neonixie-l] OT - Raspberry Pi released

2012-02-29 Thread Grahame Marsh
More info here from Aunty Beeb www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-17196115 On 29/02/2012 13:46, Dylan Distasio wrote: I stayed up until 1:30AM ET (6AM GMT) in the US trying in vain to get one. I registered interest on the RS site but am not holding my breath on this batch. I was hoping they

[neonixie-l] Yet another scope clock

2012-03-07 Thread Grahame Marsh
http://www.sgitheach.org.uk/scope1.html Enjoy Grahame -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to

Re: [neonixie-l] Yet another scope clock

2012-03-07 Thread Grahame Marsh
Michail, Kits are too much work for me - the most I'll run to is a (home made) PCB and a programmed mega and eeprom. None of the parts are hard to source. Grahame On 07/03/2012 17:38, micha...@aol.com wrote: Wow. That is nice. Kit yet? :) Michail In a message dated 3/7/2012 9:20:13 A.M.

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Yet another scope clock

2012-03-08 Thread Grahame Marsh
On 07/03/2012 23:24, Cobra007 wrote: Nice clock Grahame! I like the barcode time as well, did you actually check if a CCD barcode reader can decode it? No, it's just to annoy people and, in particular, one (non-electronics) friend of mine. If I add other clock faces (Lucky Dave suggested

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Yet another scope clock

2012-03-08 Thread Grahame Marsh
On 08/03/2012 11:32, John Rehwinkel wrote: I'd be tempted to make an old A-scope style radar display with a few lines of shark-fin looking pips (hours, minutes, seconds), and have the pips slowly meander across the screen. A few index marks would make it easier to read. I don't know how hard

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Yet another scope clock

2012-03-08 Thread Grahame Marsh
Dave This is the first time I tried etching so I was fetching it out every 10 minutes or so to see/feel how deep the etch had got. I knew I needed enough depth to hold a layer of paint. But was not sure if I would get undercutting or how the chemistry of etching copper/zinc as against just

Re: [neonixie-l] Russian CRT data wanted

2012-03-14 Thread Grahame Marsh
Morris Small amount of info with ebay item 251013091649 - does include pin connections. But this might be a circular reference! Grahame On 14/03/2012 11:00, morrisodell wrote: Hi all, I'm trying to find data for a Russian CRT type 11LO5v, especially the pin connections. Any help

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Yet another scope clock

2012-03-29 Thread Grahame Marsh
John Alas, yet another typo - should read K[LINGON] the [...] showing the optional characters in the command. Thanks for the part numbers, I will add them to the parts list; as you point out the transformer I used is a single 230V secondary. Grahame On 28/03/2012 22:38, John Rehwinkel

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Yet another scope clock

2012-03-29 Thread Grahame Marsh
Thanks for sorting it... That sort of transformer is going to work fine. The clock uses a lot less than 15VA - I used that size for its availablity and donut hole (not potted) to wind on the heater (filament) supply winding. In practice you could use two smaller transformers 2x 0-15V plus

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Yet another scope clock

2012-03-30 Thread Grahame Marsh
Michel I use a clear protective lacquer spray that I normally use for protecting PCB that are going in some location outside (eg greenhouse watering controller): http://www.rapidonline.com/Tools-Equipment/Electrolube-Clear-Protective-Lacquer-200ml-87-1204 Grahame On 30/03/2012 00:56,

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: I2C pullups - are they always necessary?

2012-04-15 Thread Grahame Marsh
On 4/15/12 12:33 PM, Quixotic Nixotic wrote: If only Farnell in the UK sold a resistor with wires that are 1/8w, but I cannot find any. I think they do - e.g. Farnell number 1700243 or 9343040 are 125mW 3k3 axial leaded - or are you looking for something else? G -- You received

Re: [neonixie-l] Question on XC18 trigger tubes

2012-05-09 Thread Grahame Marsh
Dylan, The main design flaw with the published trigger tube clock is the change of supply voltage (I frigged the anode resistor to compensate). This does effect the pulse carry timing considerably.The main problem with the XC18 is it requires light to trigger reliably - leave the clock

Re: [neonixie-l] Question on XC18 trigger tubes

2012-05-10 Thread Grahame Marsh
Nick I do have this book as a paper original as well as this PDF. I don't think I scanned it as I can't find any original scanned page sheets on my PC. So I can't help other than do some of the splitting grunt if help is needed. Grahame On 10/05/2012 10:06, Nick wrote: On Wednesday, 9

Re: [neonixie-l] Question on XC18 trigger tubes

2012-05-10 Thread Grahame Marsh
*From:* neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Grahame Marsh *Sent:* donderdag 10 mei 2012 12:32 *To:* neonixie-l@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [neonixie-l] Question on XC18 trigger

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Question on XC18 trigger tubes

2012-05-10 Thread Grahame Marsh
] On Behalf Of Grahame Marsh Sent: donderdag 10 mei 2012 14:20 To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Question on XC18 trigger tubes Eric I assume you mean Electronic Counting Circuits - I have not scanned chapters 11 - Nuclear and 12 - Further applications, which covers your page range

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: IN 9 / IN 13 bar graph tubes clock

2012-05-22 Thread Grahame Marsh
On 22/05/2012 15:19, kay486 wrote: Exactly, or even times seven if you like almost flashing tube. Imo it would look really really nice. As mentioned by Jon, here's my 7 seg clock (inspired by Jon's clock). http://www.sgitheach.org.uk/ss.html I confirm all of what Jon found, the tubes

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Nixie multimeter

2012-06-04 Thread Grahame Marsh
On 04/06/2012 00:05, Tobias wrote: I am trying some R and C measuring designs on the breadboard but nothing too promising so far. Tobias, For capacitance you might look at these Elektor projects: Low range http://www.elektor.com/magazines/2011/april/pico-c.1738839.lynkx?tab=1 High Range

[neonixie-l] Second Scope Clock

2012-11-13 Thread Grahame Marsh
Work in progress for a new scope clock. But fully working and complete to date with schematics, layouts, all source code (GCC-AVR) and a description of how it works. http://www.sgitheach.org.uk/scope2.html Enjoy Grahame -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Second Scope Clock

2012-11-13 Thread Grahame Marsh
Michel Yep, moonrise, set and phase is on my (long) to do list. I just had the sun's equations to hand so was quick to put it. Grahame On 13/11/2012 10:42, Michel wrote: WOW! Looks like somebody had some fun here! That astronomical face is a very interesting idea, would be even better if

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Second Scope Clock

2012-11-13 Thread Grahame Marsh
On 13/11/2012 15:59, Nick wrote: Very pretty indeed, as always! Nice PCBs - how are you doing those? (I know you use Eagle :) Nick Nick Manufacturing I assume? Eagle to laser film using my trusty HPLJ4 printer that's some 30+ years old. Photo etch pre-coated FR4 PCB (normally cut from

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Second Scope Clock

2012-11-13 Thread Grahame Marsh
as well). I have experience in film developing, so I imagine that parts of this process may be similar. I'm hoping that if I do mostly surface mount, I can avoid the majority of the drilling. Is that correct? -Adam On 11/13/2012 9:03 AM, Grahame Marsh wrote: Grahame Adam, My top dozen tips

Re: [neonixie-l] Second Scope Clock

2012-11-13 Thread Grahame Marsh
boards... Please also let me know if you still have your Pro PCB VFD Approx Clock for sale. Best regards, Konstantin www.kosbo.com -Original Message- From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Grahame Marsh Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 10:25 AM

Re: [neonixie-l] Second Scope Clock

2012-11-14 Thread Grahame Marsh
On 14/11/2012 16:50, Nick wrote: You need to do a Vetinari clock face (e.g. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHKOhO_-hZY) Its just s irritating... Nick Nick Thanks for the reminder - I need to add a Vetinari option to each clock that displays seconds. A Vetenari Elvish or Klingon

[neonixie-l] LM9022 is back

2012-11-20 Thread Grahame Marsh
Hi Having said the LM9022 VFD filament/HV driver chip had gone unobtainium, I've found it back in stock with RS Components in the UK at about the same price that it was when I last bought them from Farnell. Anyone experimenting with VFDs might find this an interesting chip. I use it in my

Re: [neonixie-l] Harwell Computer

2012-11-20 Thread Grahame Marsh
On 20/11/2012 11:06, Quixotic Nixotic wrote: On 20 Nov 2012, at 10:38, Tom Nolan wrote: It's so beautiful! http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-20395212 Cheers, Tom Is that the one Nicko donated tubes to and they never even said thank you? John S Yep, I donated some tubes as well - no

Re: [neonixie-l] LM9022 is back

2012-11-20 Thread Grahame Marsh
On 20/11/2012 14:34, John Rehwinkel wrote: Having said the LM9022 VFD filament/HV driver chip had gone unobtainium, I've found it back in stock with RS Components in the UK at about the same price that it was when I last bought them from Farnell. Now they show no stock, but say they can

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: My first GSA10G dekatron driving a GR10K Nixie!

2012-11-22 Thread Grahame Marsh
Martin Looks good - I'm envious of your stash of dekatrons but it is so good to see them being used. Which trigger tube/circuit are you going to use for the interstage coupler? In experiments I have reproduced the standard GTE175M and Z700U stage couplers, but you're using what must have

[neonixie-l] Sgitheach web page update

2012-12-11 Thread Grahame Marsh
Hi I have added a webpage where I test a variety of other small CRTs with the scope clock 2 hardware. http://www.sgitheach.org.uk/scope2a.html This page will continue to carry updates as I trial other CRTs and other PSU configurations. I'm still extending the range of clock faces and

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Sgitheach web page update

2012-12-11 Thread Grahame Marsh
of the tube, I would expect? The IN9 / IN13 bargraph clock is my next project!! Tubes are on the way but hope I will have some time to work on it :-) Michel On Dec 12, 12:51 am, Grahame Marsh grahame.ma...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi I have added a webpage where I test a variety of other small CRTs

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Sgitheach web page update

2012-12-12 Thread Grahame Marsh
Hi Aaron You've confirmed what I suspected, that the focus voltage is moving enough to unfocus the image as the beam current is varying. I will take some measurements of beam current, focus current, focus and cathode voltages and try to feed the focus from a more stable voltage, perhaps

Re: [neonixie-l] IN-9 tube gas discrepancies and cathode poisoning issues

2013-01-05 Thread Grahame Marsh
Hi Alex I've only used the IN13 (the one with the primer electrode) and they all did as you described initially (despite the primer). I wrote the microcontroller code to repeatedly sweep the tube current up and down over about a second and left a batch of 8 running continuously. I think it

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: MTX-90 in counting circuit?

2013-01-30 Thread Grahame Marsh
UTC-5, threeneurons wrote: Grahame Marsh made a whole nixie clock using them. Here's his page on it: http://www.sgitheach.org.uk/nixie3.html http://www.sgitheach.org.uk/nixie3.html With some tweeking (adjusting some part values) it should be doable with any trigger tube

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: MTX-90 in counting circuit?

2013-01-30 Thread Grahame Marsh
something more subtle that would make them problematic as a choice. On Wednesday, January 30, 2013 1:55:47 PM UTC-5, threeneurons wrote: Grahame Marsh made a whole nixie clock using them. Here's his page on it: http://www.sgitheach.org.uk/nixie3.html http://www.sgitheach.org.uk

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: MTX-90 in counting circuit?

2013-01-30 Thread Grahame Marsh
wavelength is the most efficiënt ? eric *From:* neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Grahame Marsh *Sent:* woensdag 30 januari 2013 21:31 *To:* neonixie-l@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re

[neonixie-l] Re: Looking for VFDs

2013-03-12 Thread Grahame Marsh
On 12/03/2013 05:51, Tristan wrote: Have you seen here? http://store.reuseum.com/Itron_Noritake_FG165S1_VFD_p/noritake-07-001.htm Tristan Yep, that's my fallback - was really looking for a swap as I have lots of other things that glow (although not as many as some). but thanks Grahame

[neonixie-l] Photoelectronic Devices by JB Dance

2013-03-12 Thread Grahame Marsh
An interesting book, the volume I have is published in 1969 so it is in the period that interests many. Several chapters on photoemission (materials, diodes, tubes), semiconductors as photodevices, image intensifiers and electroluminescent devices. Mostly theory and equations but with a few

[neonixie-l] Re: Looking for VFDs

2013-03-13 Thread Grahame Marsh
On 13/03/2013 16:48, taylorjpt wrote: http://www.tayloredge.com/reference/Electronics/Displays/Itron_FG326A-2.jpg I have an attic full (About 2K) of these Itron FG326A-2 http://www.tayloredge.com/reference/Electronics/Displays/Itron_FG326A-2.jpg. They are 32 character/14 segments with DP.

Re: [neonixie-l] Question for all you electronic engineers out there.

2013-03-20 Thread Grahame Marsh
Well I'm a chemical engineer so should I be better with the process chemicals? This is a link to my top dozen home made PCB tips https://groups.google.com/d/msg/neonixie-l/jUUlqV-avvM/4JgBIFcBBtEJ You can see my results on my electronics webpages

Re: [neonixie-l] Question for all you electronic engineers out there.

2013-03-20 Thread Grahame Marsh
, just not familiar with the whole process and thought I'd ask 'those in the know' Cheers, Nick On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Grahame Marsh grahame.ma...@googlemail.com mailto:grahame.ma...@googlemail.com wrote: Well I'm a chemical engineer so should I be better

Re: [neonixie-l] Question for all you electronic engineers out there.

2013-03-21 Thread Grahame Marsh
support about its safety in a tank designed for FeCl, they said that the aeration would shorten the life of the etchant solution... I'm NOT a chemist, so what's your verdict on that statement? Cheers Nick (t'other one) On Wednesday, 20 March 2013 22:14:00 UTC, Grahame Marsh wrote: Hey

Re: [neonixie-l] 866 Mercury Vapor Rectifier as Novelty Lamp

2013-05-29 Thread Grahame Marsh
On 29/05/2013 19:02, JohnK wrote: Much UV leak out do you think? ..clip.. Fo a go-no go test you might look to see if the UV is strong enough to illuminate anything with UV writing on it. UK currency notes and European passports carry invisible (to the eye) markings that

Re: [neonixie-l] Question about trigger tube

2013-07-11 Thread Grahame Marsh
Hi Clarke, Please be aware that XC18 based clocks fail to count reliably in complete darkness - my experience with one clock but I believe experienced by others. I'd expect two electrode neons to behave similarly but I've no direct experience. My XC18 clock I keep as a demonstration clock

Re: [neonixie-l] Radio 4 time code.

2013-09-24 Thread Grahame Marsh
Yep, it carries a lot of information including date/time, try this link http://www.freescale.com/files/microcontrollers/doc/app_note/AN1597.pdf searching on 198khz phase modulation will hit a lot of related sites. But I believe, like most AM services, the Beeb Radio 4 LW is doomed... Grahame

Re: [neonixie-l] AR-1 data

2013-10-12 Thread Grahame Marsh
On 12/10/2013 11:08, Jon wrote: I just picked up a couple of GE AR-1 argon glow discharge bulbs on eBay as a reference for argon glow colour. Does anyone have the GE datasheet for this one? I've drawn a blank at the usual sources. Thanks, Jon. Jon, There is a graph showing the light output

Re: [neonixie-l] Slightly OT - 2kV voltage isolation?

2013-11-30 Thread Grahame Marsh
: Grahame Marsh Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2013 7:13 PM To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Subject: [neonixie-l] Slightly OT - 2kV voltage isolation? I'm looking to pass a, i2c bidirectional data signal between two systems that have about 2kV voltage difference between their respective grounds. I can find

Re: [neonixie-l] Slightly OT - 2kV voltage isolation?

2013-12-01 Thread Grahame Marsh
On 01/12/2013 01:22, David Forbes wrote: On 11/30/13 11:13 AM, Grahame Marsh wrote: I'm looking to pass a, i2c bidirectional data signal between two systems that have about 2kV voltage difference between their respective ... Grahame, A quick Google search turned up this HP (Agavo) app note

Re: [neonixie-l] Slightly OT - 2kV voltage isolation?

2013-12-01 Thread Grahame Marsh
On 01/12/2013 09:32, Matthew Smith wrote: Quoth Grahame Marsh at 2013-12-01 19:18 ... Thank you for the paper it has helped a lot - if I have read it correctly, the best performance is a catagory 3 opto coupler can stand off 1kVDC for 100 000 hrs. So it looks like my search for a part ends

Re: [neonixie-l] Slightly OT - 2kV voltage isolation?

2013-12-01 Thread Grahame Marsh
sure each opto carries half the total isolation voltage. Cheers, Michel on Dec 01, 2013, *Grahame Marsh* grahame.ma...@googlemail.com wrote: On 01/12/2013 09:32, Matthew Smith wrote: Quoth Grahame Marsh at 2013-12-01 19:18 ... Thank you for the paper it has helped a lot - if I

Re: [neonixie-l] Slightly OT - 2kV voltage isolation?

2013-12-03 Thread Grahame Marsh
Which brings up my other question from this discussion, what are the failure mechanisms that would cause the Optocoupler to hold of 2 Kv for a minute, but fail after an unspecified number of hours? Is this dirt accumulation caused by the fields?, is it breakdown of the plastics? is it

[neonixie-l] Measuring e/m for an electron

2013-12-09 Thread Grahame Marsh
Time to blow the dust of that 2AP1 CRT and measure the e/m ratio of an electron. http://youtu.be/7pbfzp8DlYQ I've told Javier about neonixie so I hope he is lurking by now. Grahame -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To

Re: [neonixie-l] Elesta EZ10/A/B tester refurbished!

2014-02-11 Thread Grahame Marsh
The attached is one that I drew in Eagle. Divide by 10 (from 50Hz) then 5 to get 1Hz. A copy of published designs. Works very well, easy to tune the two stages to the required factor. The divide by 5 will divide by 6 as well. Grahame

Re: [neonixie-l] Phantastron divider

2014-02-11 Thread Grahame Marsh
On 11/02/2014 22:07, John Rehwinkel wrote: I've built a few dividers down to 1Hz and they work phantastically. Always use the 6AS6 and not just any pentode. However, Eric said he wanted a low power implementation. Which makes me wonder if any of the subminiature pentodes out there could be

Re: [neonixie-l] Phantastron divider

2014-02-12 Thread Grahame Marsh
and the HP532A counter from 10 kc/s and below. Is there any evidence it is possible to divide down from 4MHz to 400 kHz? I am getting afraid that will be very difficult. eric -Original Message- From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Grahame

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: trigger tube equivilents

2014-02-16 Thread Grahame Marsh
Bob I also think that the applied voltage to the resistor in the anode circuit has to be lower than the voltage needed for the anode-cathode to strike itself. If higher then the R-C-tube will act as a relaxtion oscillator. The voltage must be higher than the voltage that will fire the

Re: [neonixie-l] highvalue resisters

2014-03-02 Thread Grahame Marsh
Bob I can do you E12 series from 1M to 10M as 5% 0.25W - so would need values in series to get what you want. Also in the Uk Grahame On 02/03/2014 18:23, bob harper wrote: literally a few, a couple of 18 meg a couple of 22 meg and a 10 meg thanks.i am in the uk somerset On Sunday,

[neonixie-l] Strobotron

2014-03-08 Thread Grahame Marsh
http://www.sgitheach.org.uk/strobotron.html Enjoy Grahame -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this

Re: [neonixie-l] Strobotron

2014-03-09 Thread Grahame Marsh
the company now making the StroboTachs charging $500 for a replacement flash tube. John On 03/08/2014 11:42 AM, Grahame Marsh wrote: http://www.sgitheach.org.uk/strobotron.html Enjoy Grahame -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group

Re: [neonixie-l] Strobotron

2014-03-10 Thread Grahame Marsh
On 10/03/2014 02:33, John Rehwinkel wrote: I'm wondering if the missing center tap connection is internal to the transformer, not brought out external to the transformer, and therefore not shown on either the schematic, or wiring diagrams?? It would not surprise me, although I would think

Re: [neonixie-l] Strobotron

2014-03-10 Thread Grahame Marsh
John Thank you for taking the photos and posting them. I particularly like the little reed for calibration. I was originally going to engrave the panel with high/low frequencies but opted for a simple 0 - 10 as I was unsure how things would age; I did realise the need for calibration

Re: [neonixie-l] Strobotron

2014-03-10 Thread Grahame Marsh
On 10/03/2014 12:35, John Rehwinkel wrote: Thank you for taking the photos and posting them. I particularly like the little reed for calibration. I thought it was clever too, and it works pretty well - it's easy to turn the dial until the strobe freezes the reed motion. That reflector you

[neonixie-l] Electronic Gadgets for the Constructor Bradley 1953

2014-03-28 Thread Grahame Marsh
I found this an amusing book to leaf through. Contains a chapter on neon lamp circuits which is my excuse for mentioning it here. About 5MB download. http://www.sgitheach.org.uk/ElectronicGadgets.pdf Enjoy Grahame -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Trigger clock revisited

2014-03-31 Thread Grahame Marsh
I fully appreciate not wanting to change over 100 resistors! I can only say that I have not had the ring failures under lit conditions that you have. Under normal day/night running the clock would go for 3 or 4 days before failing overnight. The normal failure would be a ring would have

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Trigger clock revisited

2014-04-01 Thread Grahame Marsh
I read it that Pete has two problems and I have one of them - poor triggering in the dark which we understand and have fixes for based on UV from LEDs (a semiconductor solution) or a pond UV lamp (i.e a valve solution). But Pete has a second problem that I do not see which is misfiring

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Trigger clock revisited

2014-04-02 Thread Grahame Marsh
Perhaps I should use something less vivacious, yes. At first I just left the strip light over the workshop bench on (40W at 1.5m) and that was fine as well. I used the pond lamp as I had a spare to hand - it needs to go out to the pond filter box now it is spring. Perhaps a black light

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Trigger clock revisited

2014-04-02 Thread Grahame Marsh
Right, I've only seen the metal can version - that was a few years ago as well. G On 02/04/2014 21:21, Instrument Resources of America wrote: P.S. Pic enclosed here of 0Z4G.Ira. On 4/2/2014 1:15 PM, Grahame Marsh wrote: Isn't the 0Z4 in a metal can? :D On 02/04/2014 20:39, Tidak Ada

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Nixie tube clock ghosting issues

2014-05-21 Thread Grahame Marsh
Another technique is call centre pull where all anodes and cathodes are connected to a 90V supply (potential divider across 180V supply to ground) via high value resistors (say 470k). Used in this design. http://www.sgitheach.org.uk/nixie6.html It means any residual charge is bleed off the

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Frosted Metal Case Instead of This Shiny One?

2014-06-09 Thread Grahame Marsh
I would suggest getting a piece of ali from a hardware store and practicing the technique before starting on the real thing.. Grahame On 09/06/2014 14:57, JohnK wrote: Steel wool is good too - especially for rounded/curved surfaces. Needs extra care at the start and lift-off points; a bit

Re: [neonixie-l] Wikipedia Nixie article.

2014-06-11 Thread Grahame Marsh
Miss Susan says that Nicholas can have a gold star from the stationery cupboard On 11/06/2014 11:15, Nick wrote: I have contributed substantial parts of this article over many years, but now its so hacked about that it has lost its structure and the use of English, in part, is not good.

Re: [neonixie-l] A use for all those Itron displays I've got in the garage

2014-07-06 Thread Grahame Marsh
Pete, I'm glad you found the ideas useful. I have a much larger proverb list which I chose from for my proverb generator when I became short of flash. I can let you (or anyone else) have it to play with. It includes a lot of other sayings, almost duplicates and the Way of Mrs Cosmopolite

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Anyone have access to neonixie files?

2014-07-21 Thread Grahame Marsh
I would volunteer to do a chunk if told what, where and how. Grahame On 21/07/2014 21:05, Jon wrote: Hmm, sounds like a job for a solution from the many hands make light work school... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Sperry radar clock now working!

2014-08-10 Thread Grahame Marsh
Morris Are you switching off the HT/EHT to the tube when the heater is off as well? My understanding is that it is not good to switch the heater on while there is full HT on any thermal valve/tube. You might take the opportunity to soft start the CRT heater - I can PM you a schematic I'm

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Sperry radar clock now working!

2014-08-10 Thread Grahame Marsh
Yes, you know the problem, I hestated because there is so much mis-information on audio-fool sites. I just tend to take a precautionary approach when I can to extending tube life. But running the CRT heater warm is an alternative to full cold soft start. My current scope clock which is

[neonixie-l] Cold Cathode Glow Discharge Tubes GF Wston

2014-08-14 Thread Grahame Marsh
A hardback ex-library copy is up on AbeBooks but before you scramble to buy it, the seller wants US$ 295. A trifle expensive perhaps for even this rare book. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and

[neonixie-l] Dance Cold Cathode Tubes

2014-08-18 Thread Grahame Marsh
The book is up on Ebay http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Cold-Cathode-Tubes-John-Brian-Dance-1967-ID-10953-/131270014034?pt=Fictionhash=item1e904d7452 No connection. The same seller has the book on AbeBooks slightly cheaper. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

Re: [neonixie-l] Dance Cold Cathode Tubes

2014-08-18 Thread Grahame Marsh
@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Grahame Marsh Sent: maandag 18 augustus 2014 20:07 To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Subject: [neonixie-l] Dance Cold Cathode Tubes The book is up on Ebay http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Cold-Cathode-Tubes-John-Brian-Dance-1967-ID-10953- /131270014034?pt=Fictionhash=item1e904d7452

Re: [neonixie-l] Dance Cold Cathode Tubes

2014-08-18 Thread Grahame Marsh
Eric A quick look at my other books by JB Dance shows Electronic Counting Circuits also published by Iliffe Books Ltd in 1967 has 390 pages. Coincidence or answer? Grahame On 18/08/2014 22:15, Grahame Marsh wrote: Eric Well, it is identical to the hardback copy I have, same cover, same

Re: [neonixie-l] Dance Cold Cathode Tubes

2014-08-18 Thread Grahame Marsh
missed the pages between p. 295 and p376 for a long time. Finally somebody sent them to me. Cheers, eric -Original Message- From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Grahame Marsh Sent: maandag 18 augustus 2014 23:22 To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: IV-21 Specifications

2014-08-19 Thread Grahame Marsh
On 19/08/2014 19:02, Dekatron42 wrote: Here's the Russian text and English translation done quickly with Abbyy Finereader and Google Translate (there are errors so please check it yourself, i didn't have time to do a proper check myself). /Martin Ha! I overlapped with Martin with the same

[neonixie-l] All valve/tube clock

2014-10-06 Thread Grahame Marsh
Hi I have been working on a new trigger tube clock that uses the Z700U trigger tube. This tube has a priming electrode so works in complete darkness. Results are very good. Details are here: http://www.sgitheach.org.uk/nixie8.html Enjoy Grahame Highlands Scotland -- You received this

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: All valve/tube clock

2014-10-07 Thread Grahame Marsh
On 07/10/2014 17:12, 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l wrote: ... and this one actually works through the night! The other is now being robbed for parts. Here's a very rough video of the very rough board test build on a sheet of mdf. http://www.sgitheach.org.uk/rough.wmv Aluminium and

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: All valve/tube clock

2014-10-09 Thread Grahame Marsh
Hi Dave I wondered how you were getting on. The trigger clock was a diversion from scope clocks for a while and now I'm back working on my next scope clock. 32 bit AVR at 66MHz, digital synthesis of the sine and cosine waves (so no fiddly set up), 4kV CRT PSU so will drive most 5 CRTs

[neonixie-l] LM9022 on ebay

2014-10-11 Thread Grahame Marsh
Hi The LM9022 IC which is a fairly niffty VFD driver has turned up on ebay item 171472657676 No affiliation. Grahame -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Little machining Job - slightly OT

2015-02-08 Thread Grahame Marsh
On 08/02/2015 10:33, Nick wrote: Pretty much every location has pros and cons - death taxes being the only certainties ! Nick -- And rice pudding -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

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