[neonixie-l] Re: Driving Z570m tubes

['Greg P' via neonixie-l]

Interesting.  

On Monday, October 30, 2023 at 2:27:50 PM UTC-4 Craig Garnett wrote:

> The directly driven tube is just 2mA and that doesn't light the pins.
> If I swap the tubes then it stays with the multiplexed tube.
>
> On Monday, 30 October 2023 at 14:58:31 UTC Greg P wrote:
>
>> How much current are you using in a directly driven tube?  I’ve had the 
>> same issue with the pins lighting up with as little as 1mA on the Z570M 
>> tubes.
>>
>>
>> On Monday, October 30, 2023 at 10:31:57 AM UTC-4 Craig Garnett wrote:
>>
>>> Increasing the HT gave me 10mA and looks pretty good but is this an 
>>> issue in the photo?
>>> It only occurs in the multiplexed tube.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Craig
>>>
>>> On Friday, 27 October 2023 at 18:13:19 UTC+1 Craig Garnett wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks gregebert,
>>>> I'll have a play with the HT voltage and report back.
>>>>
>>>> Craig
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, 27 October 2023 at 16:33:12 UTC+1 gregebert wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> You can run nixie tubes at much higher voltages if you wish, it does 
>>>>> no harm as long as you increase the series resistor to keep the current 
>>>>> within spec. For example, my first nixie clock runs the B5092 tubes from 
>>>>> a 
>>>>> +340V supply, and I used a larger resistor (75K I think) to get the 
>>>>> optimal 
>>>>> 2.2mA current. Running at higher voltage gives you more design margin, 
>>>>> but 
>>>>> it does waste more energy as heat. Generally my HV supplies run between 
>>>>> +200 and +220VDC; seems like every clock I make ends-up with a different 
>>>>> power supply design. So far, I've designed and built nixie clocks with 
>>>>> B5092, B6091, B7971, IN-18, and RZ568m tubes.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would bump your supply up to +200V, and adjust the resistor to get 
>>>>> 8mA of peak current (6:1 multiplexing). That will give plenty of voltage 
>>>>> margin as the tubes age.  From the photo, 8mA looks nice. I recommend 
>>>>> that 
>>>>> you view your tube as you vary the supply voltage to get currents between 
>>>>> 5mA and 12mA just so you can see the effect of current on brightness. You 
>>>>> should see that once the tube is lit "normally", increasing the current 
>>>>> doesn't make as much of a change visually.
>>>>>
>>>>> I dont run my tubes multiplexed for a variety of reasons.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Friday, October 27, 2023 at 1:38:06 AM UTC-7 Craig Garnett wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks  gregebert
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My HT is a 12V module and is adjustable but the tube spec says 170V 
>>>>>> so I left it at that.
>>>>>> Are you saying that it's safe to increase the HT to get maybe 10mA?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Craig
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Friday, 27 October 2023 at 05:06:34 UTC+1 gregebert wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My concern is that over time as the tubes age your HV supply voltage 
>>>>>>> might be too low to ensure proper ionization. If it's not adjustable, 
>>>>>>> you 
>>>>>>> can boost it with a series DC supply such as a wall-wart transformer or 
>>>>>>> a 
>>>>>>> small isolated DCDC converter. Anything from +12 to +24 should work 
>>>>>>> fine, 
>>>>>>> and the current is pretty low (12mA).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Once you get the HV supply resolved, you will be able to get more 
>>>>>>> current thru the tubes. BUT..you may want to stay with 8mA. From 
>>>>>>> the 
>>>>>>> photo, the tubes glow nicely. Tube wearout is an exponential function 
>>>>>>> of 
>>>>>>> current, so staying at the lower currents is better for longer 
>>>>>>> lifetime. At 
>>>>>>> some point, the current could be too low and you might see cathode 
>>>>>>> poisoning, but that's reversible. My gut feeling is that 8mA of pulsed 
>>>>>>> current should be fine.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, are you using rectified AC-mains as your DC supply ? No worries, 
>>>>>>> I've done that

[neonixie-l] Re: Driving Z570m tubes

['Greg P' via neonixie-l]

How much current are you using in a directly driven tube?  I’ve had the 
same issue with the pins lighting up with as little as 1mA on the Z570M 
tubes.


On Monday, October 30, 2023 at 10:31:57 AM UTC-4 Craig Garnett wrote:

> Increasing the HT gave me 10mA and looks pretty good but is this an issue 
> in the photo?
> It only occurs in the multiplexed tube.
>
> Thanks
> Craig
>
> On Friday, 27 October 2023 at 18:13:19 UTC+1 Craig Garnett wrote:
>
>> Thanks gregebert,
>> I'll have a play with the HT voltage and report back.
>>
>> Craig
>>
>> On Friday, 27 October 2023 at 16:33:12 UTC+1 gregebert wrote:
>>
>>> You can run nixie tubes at much higher voltages if you wish, it does no 
>>> harm as long as you increase the series resistor to keep the current within 
>>> spec. For example, my first nixie clock runs the B5092 tubes from a +340V 
>>> supply, and I used a larger resistor (75K I think) to get the optimal 2.2mA 
>>> current. Running at higher voltage gives you more design margin, but it 
>>> does waste more energy as heat. Generally my HV supplies run between +200 
>>> and +220VDC; seems like every clock I make ends-up with a different power 
>>> supply design. So far, I've designed and built nixie clocks with B5092, 
>>> B6091, B7971, IN-18, and RZ568m tubes.
>>>
>>> I would bump your supply up to +200V, and adjust the resistor to get 8mA 
>>> of peak current (6:1 multiplexing). That will give plenty of voltage margin 
>>> as the tubes age.  From the photo, 8mA looks nice. I recommend that you 
>>> view your tube as you vary the supply voltage to get currents between 5mA 
>>> and 12mA just so you can see the effect of current on brightness. You 
>>> should see that once the tube is lit "normally", increasing the current 
>>> doesn't make as much of a change visually.
>>>
>>> I dont run my tubes multiplexed for a variety of reasons.
>>>
>>> On Friday, October 27, 2023 at 1:38:06 AM UTC-7 Craig Garnett wrote:
>>>
 Thanks  gregebert

 My HT is a 12V module and is adjustable but the tube spec says 170V so 
 I left it at that.
 Are you saying that it's safe to increase the HT to get maybe 10mA?

 Craig

 On Friday, 27 October 2023 at 05:06:34 UTC+1 gregebert wrote:

> My concern is that over time as the tubes age your HV supply voltage 
> might be too low to ensure proper ionization. If it's not adjustable, you 
> can boost it with a series DC supply such as a wall-wart transformer or a 
> small isolated DCDC converter. Anything from +12 to +24 should work fine, 
> and the current is pretty low (12mA).
>
> Once you get the HV supply resolved, you will be able to get more 
> current thru the tubes. BUT..you may want to stay with 8mA. From the 
> photo, the tubes glow nicely. Tube wearout is an exponential function of 
> current, so staying at the lower currents is better for longer lifetime. 
> At 
> some point, the current could be too low and you might see cathode 
> poisoning, but that's reversible. My gut feeling is that 8mA of pulsed 
> current should be fine.
>
> So, are you using rectified AC-mains as your DC supply ? No worries, 
> I've done that on several clocks and it can be done safely with proper 
> circuit design.
>
> On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 7:28:18 AM UTC-7 Craig Garnett wrote:
>
>> The ongoing project of mine is coming on nicely but I need some 
>> reassurance with the way I'm driving the Z570s.
>>
>> There are two banks of 6 multiplexed tubes, from what I see from the 
>> datasheet these should run at 2ma static or up to 12ma as a 1 in 6 
>> multiplex but that is using google to translate from the datasheet's 
>> German.
>>
>> The problem is that even with a 1K anode resistor I can't quite get 
>> 8mA from a 170V supply.
>> The photo shows two tubes, the left is static at 2mA and the right is 
>> multiplexed at just under 8mA with a 1mS on time from a 170V supply and 
>> 1K 
>> anode resistor..
>>
>> Is this ok or could I do it a better way?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Craig
>>
>

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[neonixie-l] Re: Glowing Wires

['Greg P' via neonixie-l]

Benoit and Dalibor,

Thank you for your responses.  I will try your suggestions.

On Saturday, October 7, 2023 at 5:41:12 AM UTC-4 Dalibor wrote:

> Exactly as Benoit said - just decrease the current through the digit so 
> the glow disappears. Keep it running for days in that configuration, and 
> make sure the glow on the lead doesn't come back. The sputtered metal from 
> the digit traps impurities from the gas and make a thin layer on the lead, 
> protecting it from glowing at rated current.
> It really takes time :-)
>
> On Friday, 6 October 2023 at 16:59:49 UTC+2 Benoit Tourret wrote:
>
>> you can try to add a resistor on this cathode, this will reduce the 
>> current, reduce the glow; if the unwanted glowing point disappears, the 
>> internal oxydation will re-coat the lead. this will take time, but this is 
>> the only way to isolate the lead without opening the tube...
>>
>> Le vendredi 6 octobre 2023 à 15:05:17 UTC+2, Greg P a écrit :
>>
>>> I have a clock that has some glowing lead wires from the glass seal to 
>>> where it connects to the individual cathodes.  This doesn’t happen on every 
>>> cathode in the tube. 
>>>
>>> I know this can happen if too much current is applied but these tubes 
>>> are running at the rated current or below when using PWM for dimming.
>>>
>>> So my question is; does anyone have an tricks to resolve this without 
>>> just changing out the tube?  Trying to avoid changing as these tubes 
>>> (Z570M) are hardwired to the PCB.
>>>
>>> Appreciate any help on this topic.
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[neonixie-l] Glowing Wires

['Greg P' via neonixie-l]

I have a clock that has some glowing lead wires from the glass seal to 
where it connects to the individual cathodes.  This doesn’t happen on every 
cathode in the tube. 

I know this can happen if too much current is applied but these tubes are 
running at the rated current or below when using PWM for dimming.

So my question is; does anyone have an tricks to resolve this without just 
changing out the tube?  Trying to avoid changing as these tubes (Z570M) are 
hardwired to the PCB.

Appreciate any help on this topic.


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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B-5972

['Greg P' via neonixie-l]

Could it be something as simple as when they stamped the tube it was a typo?


On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 3:33:30 PM UTC-4 Audrey wrote:

> this tube indeed contains mercury, though I think normal 5971s do too, the 
> top and bottom horizontal segments are still only one segment each, and the 
> middle vertical line is still only one segment aswell.
>
> On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 3:22:07 PM UTC-4 Nicholas Stock wrote:
>
>> Are the central or top and bottom segments still continuous in this 
>> version? I could imagine that an 'improved/subsequent' version may copy the 
>> 7971 configuration as the 5971 is only a 13 segment displayIIRC.
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 5, 2023 at 12:14 PM Audrey  wrote:
>>
>>> I have one of these aswell- at least, it was sold as a B-5792, the part 
>>> number is sort of smudged, 2 of these showed up on ebay from the same 
>>> seller recently so I imagine this is the other one, it has the same 
>>> segments as B-5971 tubes as far as I can tell.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 10:51:15 AM UTC-4 liam bartosiewicz 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Perhaps it has different electrical characteristics? It looks pretty 
 much identical to a 5971.

 On Sep 5, 2023, at 7:46 AM, Richard Scales  
 wrote:

 Hmm, there must be some difference between that and the B-5971 - 
 though what, I don't know.


 Is it the same in as much as it has the same segments (difficult to 
 tell from your picture) ?

  - Richard


 On Tuesday, 5 September 2023 at 08:45:04 UTC+1 Adam Piórko wrote:

> Hi,
> Does anyone know anything about b-5972?
>
> [image: 20230905_093151.jpg]
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Re: [neonixie-l] Original Tube Prices

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Only thing I’ve been able to find that used the 8971’s was this keyboard.

https://telcontar.net/KBK/KBref/Invac_PK-244/

And of course the infamous MOD-SIX Black Emerald.

http://www.badnixie.com/Black_Emerald_Nixie.html



On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 11:58:32 AM UTC-4 Robert wrote:

> Interesting that the B 8971 is much more expensive than the B7971, was 
> this used in any commercial products ?
>
> Thanks
> Rob
>
> On 2 Sep 2023, at 14:13, Robert G. Schaffrath  
> wrote:
>
> The B-7971 is an interesting study. It is listed at $15.85 in single 
> quantities, which is still worse than the $5/each I paid for NOS surplus 
> from Meshna in 1979. However, running that number through the inflation 
> calculator for January 1970 to July 2023 and I get $128.18 (which is 
> shocking to see how much our money has been devalued all these years).
>
>
> When B-7971's appear on eBay, they tend to sell for around $175-$200 each. 
> Not that big a markup over the original price when inflation is taken into 
> account. Of course most of the tubes being sold are used but still, 
> factoring in 53 years of time for something no longer made, the markup is 
> not that big. I am guessing that Ultronics was paying the $9.50/each 
> ($76.83 - 2023) price for the quantities they were working with.
>
> On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 3:45:14 AM UTC-4 Audrey wrote:
>
>> Oh. It didn't attach.
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 31, 2023, 10:13 PM Audrey  wrote:
>>
>>> My understanding is that the prices dropped a lot as time went on, 
>>> here's another price catalog from 1970 that mentions most of the same tubes 
>>> for much cheaper, with B-5750 types just $4@1000pcs - roughly $25/pc now.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 31, 2023, 10:02 PM LB  wrote:
>>>
 Hi all,

 Out of curiosity, I took a look at some old Burroughs nixie tube price 
 lists, and took the prices (1-99 pcs) to an inflation calculator 
 (1963->2023). Here are some highlights:

 B-4991 (Miniature, $68.00) -> $677.10
 B-7094 (Jumbo, $45.00) -> $448.08
 B-4032 (Miniature, $33.00) -> $328.59
 B-5971 (13 Segments, $16.75) -> $166.79
 6844-A (Standard, $11.00) -> $109.53
 B-9012 (Pixie, $5.00) -> $49.79

 I know that these tubes were made pretty much exclusively for 
 military/non-consumer applications, but it's still interesting to see just 
 how expensive nixies were in reasonable quantities.

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Re: [neonixie-l] IV-17 Explorer Kits & ZM1350 Smartsocket Boards — Both With Tubes

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This seller is some kind of estate liquidator I'm convinced of that.   Some 
of the clocks he sold could be traced by serial numbers and the original 
buyer has since passed away.  Again, this is my speculation based on the 
deceased and where this seller is located, both in Northern New Jersey, 
Metro NY area.

As far as the sex toys, who knows maybe they bought out one of those seedy 
places in Times Square.



On Monday, September 5, 2022 at 1:07:28 PM UTC-4 Terry Bowman wrote:

> On Sep 5, 2022, at 8:44 AM, Craig Smuda  wrote:
>
> Just bought some IN-18s and an older nixie-tester kit, received extremely 
> quickly and in good shape. A data point to add- the items were shipped from 
> Brighton Beach in NYC, a major Russian and related language outpost. So it 
> could well be the seller saw an area of opportunity for importing and 
> branched into it- there are a number of things like the nixie testers which 
> a collector wouldn't have many multiples of. 
>
>
> I'm surprised that so much is still shipping from Ukraine. There's been an 
> increase in new listings of Nixie et al on eBay in recent months. I've 
> never seen many of the sellers before and they're from all over the map. 
> Some US sellers are asking low-end market prices.
>
>
> Regardless, will vouch for a good experience, at least for the nixie 
> stuff, can't comment on the sex toys.
>
>
> Well, Saturday I received a package containing an all-in-one beginner's 
> bondage kit. I suppose that someone else now has my IV-17 Explorer kit. No 
> doubt they intended to do a different kind of exploration and are quite 
> disappointed.  o_O
>
>
> BTW, he has two more Explorer kits today. The price has almost doubled:
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/185561825127
>
>
> Terry Bowman, KA4HJH
> "The Mac Doctor"
>
> "There is no Main Street anymore except at Disneyland—and try and buy a 
> gun there"—Hank Hill
>
>

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Re: [neonixie-l] IV-17 Explorer Kits & ZM1350 Smartsocket Boards — Both With Tubes

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That eBayer has been selling a lot of Nixie related clocks, tubes, etc 
along with sex toys.  From what I can tell he must be a liquidator and I 
presume bought out a Nixie collection from someone who either passed away 
or decided to get out of the hobby.

On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 2:40:07 PM UTC-4 Terry Bowman wrote:

> On Sep 1, 2022, at 2:30 PM, Michail Wilson  wrote:
>
> Thanks.
> I decided to get the ZMs.  It’s about time.
>
>
> I grabbed the first Explorer kit (sans tubes) when he listed it 
> yesterday. I wouldn't be surprised to see something else turn up tomorrow.
>
>
> Terry Bowman, KA4HJH
> "The Mac Doctor"
>
> https://www.astarcloseup.com
>
> "Every kid starts out as a natural-born scientist, and then we beat it out 
> of them. A few trickle through the system with their wonder and enthusiasm 
> for science intact."—Carl Sagan, *Psychology Today*, 1996
>
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Re: [neonixie-l] Jeff's Nixie watch parts layout or schematic?

['Greg P' via neonixie-l]

Hi Nick,

I appreciate you sharing this BOM, but it's for the Commemorative clock 
which is the one that replaced the one I have.  Mine is his first piece 
that used a modified Mike Harrison PCB and work on mains power not a 12V 
power supply.

On Tuesday, August 30, 2022 at 10:44:34 AM UTC-4 Pramanicin wrote:

> Greg, I built one of these almost 20 years ago now(wow). This is all 
> the documentation I have on it. Hope it helps.
>
> Nick
>
> On Tue, Aug 30, 2022 at 7:40 AM 'Greg P' via neonixie-l <
> neoni...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Speaking of Jeff's stuff, does anyone have a manual or any documentation 
>> for that matter on this clock?
>>
>> http://www.nixie.dk/~jthomas/nixieclock.html
>>
>> This was the first clock he made for sale.
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 30, 2022 at 12:30:29 AM UTC-4 bailey...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> That would be fantastic. You don't know how much misery that would 
>>> eliminate, every time I walk by those bags of parts. I was about to zoom 
>>> all the way in on the picture of the PCB on his site and try to read SMD 
>>> capacitor values! ;)
>>>
>>> Thanks!!
>>>
>>> ...R
>>>
>>> On Monday, August 29, 2022 at 11:28:49 PM UTC-5 nixiebunny wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think I have that information on my home computer. I'll be home 
>>>> Friday. 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Aug 29, 2022, 7:09 PM Rob Bailey  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Ages ago, I purchased Jeff's Krusty Klown nixie watch kit [two, in 
>>>>> fact]:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.nixie.dk/~jthomas/watch.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Of all parts of a kit to lose, I lost the paperwork [i.e., schematic 
>>>>> and, critically, the parts placement guide]. I was able to contact the 
>>>>> project owner, but he said he no longer had any of the documentation [!]. 
>>>>> I'd like to build the kits, bit I'm at the mercy of guesswork, which I'd 
>>>>> obviously like to avoid.
>>>>>
>>>>> Does anyone know where I can track that parts placement sheet down, or 
>>>>> better yet have one that I can grab a scan of?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
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Re: [neonixie-l] Jeff's Nixie watch parts layout or schematic?

['Greg P' via neonixie-l]

Hi Nick,

I appreciate the BOM but the clock I have is the first one.  The 
Commemorative one that you were kind enough to share is for was for the one 
that replaced the one I have with the modified Mike Harrison board and 
ribbon cable in it.

On Tuesday, August 30, 2022 at 10:44:34 AM UTC-4 Pramanicin wrote:

> Greg, I built one of these almost 20 years ago now(wow). This is all 
> the documentation I have on it. Hope it helps.
>
> Nick
>
> On Tue, Aug 30, 2022 at 7:40 AM 'Greg P' via neonixie-l <
> neoni...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Speaking of Jeff's stuff, does anyone have a manual or any documentation 
>> for that matter on this clock?
>>
>> http://www.nixie.dk/~jthomas/nixieclock.html
>>
>> This was the first clock he made for sale.
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 30, 2022 at 12:30:29 AM UTC-4 bailey...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> That would be fantastic. You don't know how much misery that would 
>>> eliminate, every time I walk by those bags of parts. I was about to zoom 
>>> all the way in on the picture of the PCB on his site and try to read SMD 
>>> capacitor values! ;)
>>>
>>> Thanks!!
>>>
>>> ...R
>>>
>>> On Monday, August 29, 2022 at 11:28:49 PM UTC-5 nixiebunny wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think I have that information on my home computer. I'll be home 
>>>> Friday. 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Aug 29, 2022, 7:09 PM Rob Bailey  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Ages ago, I purchased Jeff's Krusty Klown nixie watch kit [two, in 
>>>>> fact]:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.nixie.dk/~jthomas/watch.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Of all parts of a kit to lose, I lost the paperwork [i.e., schematic 
>>>>> and, critically, the parts placement guide]. I was able to contact the 
>>>>> project owner, but he said he no longer had any of the documentation [!]. 
>>>>> I'd like to build the kits, bit I'm at the mercy of guesswork, which I'd 
>>>>> obviously like to avoid.
>>>>>
>>>>> Does anyone know where I can track that parts placement sheet down, or 
>>>>> better yet have one that I can grab a scan of?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
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Re: [neonixie-l] Jeff's Nixie watch parts layout or schematic?

['Greg P' via neonixie-l]

Speaking of Jeff's stuff, does anyone have a manual or any documentation 
for that matter on this clock?

http://www.nixie.dk/~jthomas/nixieclock.html

This was the first clock he made for sale.

On Tuesday, August 30, 2022 at 12:30:29 AM UTC-4 bailey...@gmail.com wrote:

> That would be fantastic. You don't know how much misery that would 
> eliminate, every time I walk by those bags of parts. I was about to zoom 
> all the way in on the picture of the PCB on his site and try to read SMD 
> capacitor values! ;)
>
> Thanks!!
>
> ...R
>
> On Monday, August 29, 2022 at 11:28:49 PM UTC-5 nixiebunny wrote:
>
>> I think I have that information on my home computer. I'll be home Friday. 
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 29, 2022, 7:09 PM Rob Bailey  wrote:
>>
>>> Ages ago, I purchased Jeff's Krusty Klown nixie watch kit [two, in fact]:
>>>
>>> http://www.nixie.dk/~jthomas/watch.html
>>>
>>> Of all parts of a kit to lose, I lost the paperwork [i.e., schematic 
>>> and, critically, the parts placement guide]. I was able to contact the 
>>> project owner, but he said he no longer had any of the documentation [!]. 
>>> I'd like to build the kits, bit I'm at the mercy of guesswork, which I'd 
>>> obviously like to avoid.
>>>
>>> Does anyone know where I can track that parts placement sheet down, or 
>>> better yet have one that I can grab a scan of?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
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Re: [neonixie-l] Set of six GR10J on eBay!

['Greg P' via neonixie-l]

Guess the link was bad in the first post.  Thanks for the correct one!

On Thursday, August 11, 2022 at 8:56:29 PM UTC-4 Pramanicin wrote:

> https://www.ebay.com/itm/144678243531
>
> On Thu, Aug 11, 2022 at 5:54 PM Nicholas Stock  wrote:
>
>> Looks like someone told the seller what they were as they've been 
>> relisted with their correct description..
>>
>> My guess is about $600 for the lot.
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 11, 2022 at 5:51 PM Nicholas Stock  wrote:
>>
>>> No Hg in those puppies IIRC.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 11, 2022 at 3:43 PM Audrey  wrote:
>>>
 To infinity and beyond...

 On Thu, Aug 11, 2022, 6:42 PM Dekatron42  wrote:

> A set of six GR10J on eBay: 
> https://www.ebay.com/itm?itemId=134195749943=1
>
> Not my listing….
>
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Re: [neonixie-l] Set of six GR10J on eBay!

['Greg P' via neonixie-l]

I guess the seller received an offer he couldn't refuse.  Listing is pulled!



On Thursday, August 11, 2022 at 8:51:53 PM UTC-4 Pramanicin wrote:

> No Hg in those puppies IIRC.
>
> On Thu, Aug 11, 2022 at 3:43 PM Audrey  wrote:
>
>> To infinity and beyond...
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 11, 2022, 6:42 PM Dekatron42  wrote:
>>
>>> A set of six GR10J on eBay: 
>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm?itemId=134195749943=1
>>>
>>> Not my listing….
>>>
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Re: [neonixie-l] NL7037's...

['Greg P' via neonixie-l]

Gotta be one of the ugliest tubes out there IMHO.  Anode mesh is very 
coarse and the cathodes are thick and obstruct each other.  Guess people 
are paying for scarcity and the rounded top.

Z568M / Z5680M or Dalibor tubes way nicer and cheaper.  

My guess $1600 for the lot.

On Friday, July 29, 2022 at 11:48:43 AM UTC-4 Bogdan Paduraru wrote:

> Over 2100 USD
>
>
> On 29 Jul 2022, at 18:28, Kevin A.  wrote:
>
> 
>
> $1200-$1500 for the lot 
>
> On Fri, Jul 29, 2022, 11:25 AM Nicholas Stock  wrote:
>
>>
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Jumbo-National-NL-7037-Nixie-Tubes-NIB-Set-of-4-w-sockets-/234639508700?&_trksid=p2056016.l4276
>>
>> ...reaches for popcorn.
>>
>> Not my listing etc etc... anyone want to take bets as to how much these 
>> will go for?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Nick
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[neonixie-l] Re: Nixichrom woes

['Greg P' via neonixie-l]

Reach out to Michael at www.badnixie.com.  He should be able to help you 
and I recommend his wonderful new firmware for the NixiChron.  He may even 
be able to help with your WWVB too.

Good luck!

On Monday, July 11, 2022 at 7:50:53 PM UTC-4 Terry S wrote:

> My Jeff Thomas Nixichron has been misbehaving.
>
> It's worked flawlessly for years. Lately (4 mo?) it's had a hard time 
> keeping a GPS lock, so much so that the GPS coordinates would be wrong when 
> displayed. Sometimes just a little, sometimes a lot. Then it would get a 
> lock and seem to work fine for a while. It got progressively worse.
>
> More recently even the time has been wrong, and the colon neon would never 
> show a GPS lock.
>
> All this led me to believe that the GPS puck was failing (I was on my 2nd 
> puck, a GlobalSat BR355S4). So I ordered another and installed it today. 
> Still no joy. It's just counting the minutes and not getting a lock.
>
> Coincidentally, my Jeff Thomas WWVB nixie clock is also unable to get a 
> WWVB time sync as of late. 
>
> I need to fix both of these wonderful devices. Any input? 
>
> I'd like to get the Nixichron converted to NWTS -- understanding that I'd 
> lose the GPS coordinate display. I know some members here can help me with 
> that and I imagine it's time to make that change. I'm basically clueless as 
> to what's involved.
>
> Terry
>

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[neonixie-l] Re: NEW software now available for Thomas Classic NixiSat, Nixichron, and GPSII clocks

['Greg P' via neonixie-l]

This new software Michael B and his team has released is fantastic!   I 
have it on all my Thomas clocks and it clearly addressed the features 
needed to makes this a "no brainer" upgrade.



On Sunday, May 1, 2022 at 5:33:22 AM UTC-4 nixiefanvinh wrote:

> Oh! This is exciting!
>
> I never got around to installing the new firmware chip I bought from you, 
> the one that corrects for the change in when Daylight Savings happens. I 
> just wasn't able to remove the AM/PM LED diode. Is there a trick to 
> removing it?
>
> With the recent announcement of the possible permanence of Daylight 
> Savings time all the time, I decided to just turn back on the NixiChron and 
> use it as-is. This new firmware might be something I might want, if I can 
> only get at the chip!
>
> Thanks!
>
> On Sunday, March 20, 2022 at 9:45:37 AM UTC-7 MichaelB wrote:
>
>>

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[neonixie-l] Re: 6 B-7971

['Greg P' via neonixie-l]

Good one! 

On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 1:03:44 PM UTC-4 M1 wrote:

> I thought people would get a kick out of this auction.  Especially those 
> of us whom are always searching for MOD-6 Clocks or 6 tubes of B-7971
>
>  
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/284788707763
>
>  
>
> Michail Wilson
>
> 206-920-6312 <(206)%20920-6312>
>
>  
>

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[neonixie-l] Re: Neons for all!

['Greg P' via neonixie-l]

Richard, please post pictures.  Very interested to see your solution.

On Tuesday, April 12, 2022 at 8:45:56 AM UTC-4 Richard Scales wrote:

> I got so disappointed at how extended neon leads on colons looked - I 
> ended up making a tiny PCB which sits inside the glass tube with a metal 
> base to match Dalibors tubes. 
> I used to spend ages with enamel copper wire and such like - not any more!
> - Richard
>
> On Tuesday, 12 April 2022 at 13:39:42 UTC+1 Greg P wrote:
>
>> Nice that they still sell the NE-2's with the 60mm leads.  Really wish 
>> someone would offer those with even longer leads so you don't have to 
>> extend the wire when making clocks with larger tubes.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 12, 2022 at 12:31:43 AM UTC-4 gregebert wrote:
>>
>>> Nice that they sell single-units. Years ago I had to buy them in a box 
>>> of 1000, so I bought green ones and sold some to folks on neonixie. I've 
>>> also seen blue ones.
>>> They dont seem to have as long of a lifetime as traditional neon bulbs; 
>>> the phosphor coating "wears out" after a few years so be sure to keep 
>>> spares around.
>>>
>>> On Monday, April 11, 2022 at 8:17:43 PM UTC-7 martin martin wrote:
>>>
>>>> For anyone needing nice colons for their pretty clock, allspectrum.com 
>>>> has a new website!
>>>>
>>>> Neon Lamps - All Spectrum Electronics 
>>>> <http://www.allspectrum.com/store/neon-lamps-c-29.html?osCsid=c0c10a13252251c37ef4eb99b02d073a>
>>>>
>>>> Enjoy!
>>>>
>>>

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[neonixie-l] Re: Neons for all!

['Greg P' via neonixie-l]

Nice that they still sell the NE-2's with the 60mm leads.  Really wish 
someone would offer those with even longer leads so you don't have to 
extend the wire when making clocks with larger tubes.



On Tuesday, April 12, 2022 at 12:31:43 AM UTC-4 gregebert wrote:

> Nice that they sell single-units. Years ago I had to buy them in a box of 
> 1000, so I bought green ones and sold some to folks on neonixie. I've also 
> seen blue ones.
> They dont seem to have as long of a lifetime as traditional neon bulbs; 
> the phosphor coating "wears out" after a few years so be sure to keep 
> spares around.
>
> On Monday, April 11, 2022 at 8:17:43 PM UTC-7 martin martin wrote:
>
>> For anyone needing nice colons for their pretty clock, allspectrum.com 
>> has a new website!
>>
>> Neon Lamps - All Spectrum Electronics 
>> 
>>
>> Enjoy!
>>
>

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Re: [neonixie-l] Numeric Companion Tube for Z567M

['Greg P' via neonixie-l]

Best overall tube value in the market today, based on size, digit shape and 
quality.

On Sunday, April 10, 2022 at 8:27:28 PM UTC-4 Pramanicin wrote:

> https://www.ebay.com/itm/373995821276
>
> New for a little more.
>
> On Sun, Apr 10, 2022 at 5:26 PM Nicholas Stock  wrote:
>
>> New ones appear to be anywhere from $55 to $65 a pop at the moment (or 
>> thereabouts)used ones aren't going for much less. The Z5660M is the 
>> clear version. 
>>
>>
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/165363906868?hash=item268074f934:g:zNoAAOSwnu5h8uEi 
>> ($45 + shipping)
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 10, 2022 at 5:21 PM Mac Doktor  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Apr 10, 2022, at 7:18 PM, Nicholas Stock  wrote:
>>>
>>> Z566M
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you. Bonus question: what's a reasonable price range? It needs to 
>>> at least *look* new.
>>>
>>>
>>> Terry Bowman, KA4HJH
>>> "The Mac Doctor"
>>>
>>> https://www.astarcloseup.com
>>>
>>> “...the book said something astonishing, a very big thought. The stars, 
>>> it said, were suns but very far away. The Sun was a star but close 
>>> up.”—Carl Sagan, "The Backbone Of Night", *Cosmos*, 1980
>>>
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>>> .
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[neonixie-l] Re: Nixie (and other old technology) sighting in video

['Greg P' via neonixie-l]

That's an HP 5216A Counter with the upside down B5560 Nixies.  I have one, 
it's a cool piece.

On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 9:13:04 AM UTC-4 Tomislav Kordaso wrote:

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8hLqpigv1g
> Electronic counter by HP at about 9:05 minute mark.
>
>

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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Using a NWTS on a NixiSat to replace a Haicom 204III puck...

['Greg P' via neonixie-l]

.org or one of 
>>>>> its regional sub-domains you already have multiple servers available and 
>>>>> those lists are shuffled every hour, so for domestic use it's more than 
>>>>> adequate.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nick
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, 21 July 2021 at 23:55:24 UTC+1 Jeff Walton wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The latest NWTS software is version 2.21 (yes, this is later than 
>>>>>> 2.5)  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Version 2.21-20190701SF 
>>>>>> <https://www.dropbox.com/s/dv1qvzdfwy43xf6/nwts2.21-20190701SF.zip?dl=0>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Luis Ramos is maintaining the NWTS and I believe that he has an OEM 
>>>>>> customer that is using the NWTS module in their product.  Luis did the 
>>>>>> latest codes for the NWTS and it now supports multiple NTP pools – if 
>>>>>> the 
>>>>>> NWTS does not get a valid answer from the first time source, it will now 
>>>>>> go 
>>>>>> to another time source for the NTP solution.  It is a nice feature to 
>>>>>> have 
>>>>>> if the NTP source is busy or non-responsive.  The multiple NTP sources 
>>>>>> begins with firmware 2.20 and 2.21
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The NWTS is still available through 
>>>>>> https://www.tindie.com/stores/mazevedo/ 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jeff
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* 'Nick' via neonixie-l 
>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 21, 2021 2:36 PM
>>>>>> *To:* neonixie-l 
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Using a NWTS on a NixiSat to replace 
>>>>>> a Haicom 204III puck...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Indeed - NWYTS: 2.5, NixiSat: 110210
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Couple of things - who is maintaining/selling NWTS now and who has 
>>>>>> the source code etc. for the NixiSat?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Both are estate items, regrettably, and both are important!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wednesday, 21 July 2021 at 18:34:48 UTC+1 MichaelB wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ahhh you're right, Jeff. That's probably what he was referring to. 
>>>>>> Good catch! 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wednesday, July 21, 2021 at 10:29:38 AM UTC-7 Jeff Walton wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2.5 is probably the NWTS firmware version.  The NWTS is a very nice 
>>>>>> solution and is very configurable. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jeff
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* neoni...@googlegroups.com *On Behalf Of *MichaelB
>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 21, 2021 11:52 AM
>>>>>> *To:* neonixie-l 
>>>>>> *Subject:* [neonixie-l] Re: Using a NWTS on a NixiSat to replace a 
>>>>>> Haicom 204III puck...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nope, you gt the latest. I was confused a bit when you said you were 
>>>>>> "running 2.5 firmware". Maybe Jeff referred to this version like that at 
>>>>>> one time? Didn't know that if he did. Carry on Garth
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wednesday, July 21, 2021 at 9:41:52 AM UTC-7 Nick wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> !  I have the latest (last) firmware if you ever want a copy
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm running 110210 - is yours later than that?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nick
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wednesday, 21 July 2021 at 14:15:54 UTC+1 MichaelB wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That'll do 

[neonixie-l] NOS Lixies Available

['Greg P' via neonixie-l]

I realize these aren't Nixie's but figured someone on the group may be 
interested.  

 I have 12 possibly 13 of these available, NOS. These are the first 
generation ones with the natural colored top and bottom. Some consider 
these better than the second gen ones. Pretty sure the guy who made them 
has stopped producing. 

PM me for details. 

https://www.tindie.com/products/connornishijima/lixie-ii-the-newnixie-for-arduino-digit-kit/#product-reviews


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[neonixie-l] Re: Using a NWTS on a NixiSat to replace a Haicom 204III puck...

['Greg P' via neonixie-l]

Nick, 

Takes some modification to the PCB and added components.  Michael Barile 
(Bad Nixie) is the master at these conversions.  Well worth it to have him 
do it for you, he has many satisfied customers.
On Tuesday, July 20, 2021 at 9:05:29 AM UTC-4 Nick wrote:

> Has anyone done this?
>
> I have an original Jeff Thomas NixiSat with the later firmware and the 
> HaiCom 204III puck that I added a few years ago - see 
> https://groups.google.com/g/neonixie-l/c/evzX0noEGXg/m/4ygtcNnhj3wJ 
>
> The current site of the clock has no GPS visibility, so I want to replace 
> the puck with an NWTS - I just happened to have an unused one lying 
> around...
>
> Thanks
>

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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Lens end neon bulb

['Greg P' via neonixie-l]

Do you have a link for these bulbs.  I would like to order some?

On Friday, September 11, 2020 at 9:23:19 PM UTC-4 bdu...@gmail.com wrote:

> Not sure if anyone else is interested, but I bought some of the bulbs at 
> the Electronics Surplus site, and they do have the lens end.  They are 
> $0.45 each.  Attached is a picture of the purchased bulbs.
> - Bill
>
>
>
> On Saturday, September 5, 2020 at 12:37:44 PM UTC-4, Bill Duane wrote:
>>
>> Hi Gaston,
>> Those look exactly like the ones I have!  Great find.
>>
>> I did locate another possible source, but it is a little hard to see from 
>> the picture if there is a lens on the top of the bulb or not.  
>> Interestingly, the bulbs you located are NE-1M, and these are NE-1P.
>>
>>
>> https://www.electronicsurplus.com/inter-market-inc-ne-1p-lamps-lights-neon-miniature
>>
>> Good news is the NE-1Ps are a less expensive - guess I will have to buy a 
>> few to see if there is a lens.
>>
>> Thanks for helping out.
>>
>> - Bill
>>
>> On Saturday, September 5, 2020 at 10:25:55 AM UTC-4, GastonP wrote:
>>>
>>> I just found this ones in the auction site we all love (tongue in 
>>> cheek). Usual disclaimers apply (not my auction, don't know the seller, 
>>> etc.)
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/NE-1M-Neon-Light-Bulbs-with-magnifier-focus-lens-For-turntable-speed-strobes/172514011732
>>>
>>> Pretty expensive priced, but it gives a hint on the name (NE-1M) and one 
>>> possible application (turntable strobe light) which explains the price.
>>>
>>> Gastón
>>>
>>>
>>>

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Re: [neonixie-l] Attn: Pete Hand

['Greg P' via neonixie-l]

I have one of these Pete Hand/Jeff Thomas clocks as well.  Does anyone know 
if there is a firmware update?  Wondering if there's an updated revision 
out there?



On Tuesday, August 25, 2020 at 8:24:02 PM UTC-4 Bill Notfaded wrote:

> I found my original ones after looking a little while.  Attached is I 
> think that you're looking for Terry.
>
> Bill
>
> Hopefully the attachments come through.
>
> On Tue, Aug 25, 2020, 3:59 PM Terry S  wrote:
>
>> Michail, the files you sent me were not for the FLW clock. They were for 
>> another VFD clock.
>>
>> I'm hoping Pete will still send the correct files.
>>
>> Terry
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 25, 2020 at 12:15:18 PM UTC-5, M1 wrote:
>>>
>>> Done
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Michail Wilson
>>>
>>> 206-920-6312 <(206)%20920-6312>
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> *From:* neoni...@googlegroups.com  *On 
>>> Behalf Of *Bill Notfaded
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 25, 2020 7:18 AM
>>> *To:* neonixie-l 
>>> *Subject:* Re: [neonixie-l] Attn: Pete Hand
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Can you send me the manual too Michail... you've got my email.  I have 
>>> one of Pete Hand's FLW clocks as well.  I'm sure glad I snagged it when I 
>>> did with these recent B7971 prices o.O!  I got 4 tubes and the clock for 
>>> $600.  It was actually one of his clocks and his family had a friend 
>>> selling off all his clocks and stuff.  At least that's what they told me.  
>>> If i remember correctly they were in Scandinavia somewhere the seller was.  
>>> He may be a member here for all I know.  I think he is actually.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>> On Monday, August 17, 2020 at 12:45:56 PM UTC-7 M1 wrote:
>>>
>>> Terry,
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> I knew I had it.  I sent it to you:  *Sent:* Thursday, June 9, 2011 
>>> 5:34 PM      I didn’t even realize I had email that far back.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> I’ll send it to you now.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Michail Wilson
>>>
>>> 206-920-6312
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> *From:* neoni...@googlegroups.com  *On 
>>> Behalf Of *Terry S
>>> *Sent:* Monday, August 17, 2020 12:20 PM
>>> *To:* neonixie-l 
>>> *Subject:* [neonixie-l] Attn: Pete Hand
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Hey Pete, I've built one of your earlier FLW clocks -- non GPS version 
>>> -- and at one point I know I had the manual/instructions for it. I can no 
>>> longer locate them.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Would you be so kind as to re-send the documentation?
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Much appreciated.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Terry S.
>>>
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[neonixie-l] Re: Recent catch at Apex Electronics Surplus

['Greg P' via neonixie-l]

Nice find!

What type Nixie's are in those?  NL841 or NL5441's?



On Sunday, March 8, 2020 at 11:18:14 AM UTC-4, martin martin wrote:
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> Everything works too!
>
> No it's time to find them a purpose
>
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[neonixie-l] Re: Persistent seller!

['Greg P' via neonixie-l]

For that price, they can take an insurance policy out on them to honor the 
warranty.

Ugly tube too!  



On Friday, December 27, 2019 at 10:23:41 AM UTC-5, MichaelB wrote:
>
> And now he/she's offering a 2 year warranty! Wonder how they intend to do 
> that?
>
>
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/NATIONAL-ELECTRONICS-NL7037-NL7037-NEW-IN-BOX/392393554452?hash=item5b5c7a7a14:g:pTEAAOSwMH9dXr~g
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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Anyone interested in an eight digit ZM1350 display?

['Greg P' via neonixie-l]

Mahdi,

Gotcha.  Your design makes me happy then.  

Nice work!

On Wednesday, December 4, 2019 at 5:45:16 PM UTC-5, Mahdi Al Husseini wrote:
>
> Greg,
>
> You can check out the schematic on the associated GitHub Repo for details, 
> but I am not using muxs or shift registers for the ZM1350 board. ESP32 --> 
> PIC --> discrete transistor --> cathode pin.
>
> That said, some of my previous designs have made extensive use of 7HC595s 
> and 74141s
>
> Mahdi
>
> On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 5:02 PM 'Greg P' via neonixie-l <
> neoni...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>
>> Mahdi,
>>
>> Not multiplexed.  
>>
>> Direct drive digits or segments are always on and not pulsed at high 
>> speeds like in multiplexing.  Direct driven tubes typically are brighter 
>> and require less current.  Multiplexed designs are simpler and require less 
>> components which is cheaper. 
>>
>> I'm sure the folks here who are way smarter than me can give a better 
>> explanation, but hopefully you get the gist.
>>
>>  
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 4, 2019 at 4:10:20 PM UTC-5, Mahdi Al Husseini 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Greg, sorry I missed your message. Can you explain what you mean by 
>>> direct drive?
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 2:57 PM Mahdi Al Husseini  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Paul,
>>>>
>>>> I’ll add an option where the acrylic covers the sockets for tubes 7 and 
>>>> 8. Same PCB so you can always switch acrylic plates and display all eight 
>>>> tubes, if you come across two more. Just let me know if that’s something 
>>>> you’d like to do. 
>>>>
>>>> Mahdi
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 1:18 PM Paul  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I am interested in the ZM1350 version. I only have 6 tubes.
>>>>> I might be interested in a B-5971 version depending on cost.
>>>>> Thanks Paul
>>>>>
>>>>> On Friday, November 29, 2019 at 11:16:34 AM UTC-7, Mahdi Al Husseini 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi, everyone,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm working on an eight digit ZM1350 display with a multilayered 
>>>>>> black anodized aluminum and black acrylic exterior. I know eight ZM1350s 
>>>>>> are hard to come by, but would anyone be interested in purchasing one, 
>>>>>> fully assembled without tubes, to include the casing, for around 
>>>>>> $300.00? 
>>>>>> Just gauging interest. Technically you can use however many ZM1350s as 
>>>>>> you 
>>>>>> have available; eight for the full display. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here's a GitHub repo with some pictures to check out more. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks. I'm making it either way, but just looking to offset some 
>>>>>> production cost since min order is five. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://github.com/csapidus/zm1350-display
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Al
>>>>>>
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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Anyone interested in an eight digit ZM1350 display?

['Greg P' via neonixie-l]

Mahdi,

Not multiplexed.  

Direct drive digits or segments are always on and not pulsed at high speeds 
like in multiplexing.  Direct driven tubes typically are brighter and 
require less current.  Multiplexed designs are simpler and require less 
components which is cheaper. 

I'm sure the folks here who are way smarter than me can give a better 
explanation, but hopefully you get the gist.

 



On Wednesday, December 4, 2019 at 4:10:20 PM UTC-5, Mahdi Al Husseini wrote:
>
> Hi Greg, sorry I missed your message. Can you explain what you mean by 
> direct drive?
>
> On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 2:57 PM Mahdi Al Husseini  > wrote:
>
>> Hi Paul,
>>
>> I’ll add an option where the acrylic covers the sockets for tubes 7 and 
>> 8. Same PCB so you can always switch acrylic plates and display all eight 
>> tubes, if you come across two more. Just let me know if that’s something 
>> you’d like to do. 
>>
>> Mahdi
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 1:18 PM Paul > 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I am interested in the ZM1350 version. I only have 6 tubes.
>>> I might be interested in a B-5971 version depending on cost.
>>> Thanks Paul
>>>
>>> On Friday, November 29, 2019 at 11:16:34 AM UTC-7, Mahdi Al Husseini 
>>> wrote:

 Hi, everyone,

 I'm working on an eight digit ZM1350 display with a multilayered black 
 anodized aluminum and black acrylic exterior. I know eight ZM1350s are 
 hard 
 to come by, but would anyone be interested in purchasing one, fully 
 assembled without tubes, to include the casing, for around $300.00? Just 
 gauging interest. Technically you can use however many ZM1350s as you have 
 available; eight for the full display. 

 Here's a GitHub repo with some pictures to check out more. 

 Thanks. I'm making it either way, but just looking to offset some 
 production cost since min order is five. 

 https://github.com/csapidus/zm1350-display

 Al

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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Anyone interested in an eight digit ZM1350 display?

['Greg P' via neonixie-l]

More tubes is always better.Will your design be direct drive?



On Tuesday, December 3, 2019 at 11:33:31 AM UTC-5, Mahdi Al Husseini wrote:
>
> Ha, okay, sounds like I better start cracking away at it. 6 or 8 tube 
> preference on the 5971 display?
>
> On Tue, Dec 3, 2019 at 11:05 AM Jon Jackson  > wrote:
>
>> I'm in for a B-5971 display (as well as the ZM1350). Got a bunch of 
>> B-5971s...
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 3, 2019 at 6:18 AM Nicholas Stock > > wrote:
>>
>>> I’ll throw my name into the ring too!
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Dec 3, 2019, at 04:18, 'Greg P' via neonixie-l <
>>> neoni...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> Please count me in for one.  I've been sitting on a stash of 5971's for 
>>> a while.  I'd love to finally light them up.
>>>
>>> Hopefully, there will be interest.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, December 3, 2019 at 1:26:38 AM UTC-5, Mahdi Al Husseini 
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi, Greg,
>>>>
>>>> If there is enough collective interest yes, I could draft a board 
>>>> similar to the one built for ZM1350 and use the same style casing. If I 
>>>> can 
>>>> get three folks interested I could offset the production cost at a 
>>>> reasonable cost. 
>>>>
>>>> Mahdi 
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 8:13 PM 'Greg P' via neonixie-l <
>>>> neoni...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Mahdi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Any chance you'll make a version that will use 5971's?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sunday, December 1, 2019 at 6:05:32 PM UTC-5, Jon D. wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Excellent.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 1, 2019 at 2:02 PM Mahdi Al Husseini  
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi, Jon,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Great! I should have a fully assembled version by the end of the 
>>>>>>> month, so you can see it finalized before deciding to commit. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mahdi 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 1, 2019 at 3:32 PM Jon Jackson  
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Mahdi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am interested, as I've got a dozen or so ZM1350s.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jon J.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 7:54 PM Mahdi Al Husseini <
>>>>>>>> mahdi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi, Richard, 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I saw your board - how nice! While the ZM1350 smart socket PCB on 
>>>>>>>>> groupsio helped me recreate the panaplex footprint, I am building my 
>>>>>>>>> own 
>>>>>>>>> board in full, to include the decimal point functionality. Means of 
>>>>>>>>> driving 
>>>>>>>>> (PIC with discrete transistors) is pretty much the same though. 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I noticed you used an 8266 and Arduino in tandem - I know exactly 
>>>>>>>>> how you feel, and have done the same thing on occasion. I recently 
>>>>>>>>> switched 
>>>>>>>>> to the ESP32 and am quite glad for having done so; while the 8266 is 
>>>>>>>>> an 
>>>>>>>>> excellent microcontroller, it is just too pin limited. The 
>>>>>>>>> susceptibility 
>>>>>>>>> to program crashing also irritated me deeply. 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Mahdi
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 11:27 PM Richard Scales <
>>>>>>>>> ric...@scalesweb.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If I hadn't just made such a thing I might have been but I feel 
>>>>>>>>>> that my ZM1350 box is ticked. It does look like a great deal though.
>>>>>>&

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Anyone interested in an eight digit ZM1350 display?

['Greg P' via neonixie-l]

Please count me in for one.  I've been sitting on a stash of 5971's for a 
while.  I'd love to finally light them up.

Hopefully, there will be interest.



On Tuesday, December 3, 2019 at 1:26:38 AM UTC-5, Mahdi Al Husseini wrote:
>
> Hi, Greg,
>
> If there is enough collective interest yes, I could draft a board similar 
> to the one built for ZM1350 and use the same style casing. If I can get 
> three folks interested I could offset the production cost at a reasonable 
> cost. 
>
> Mahdi 
>
> On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 8:13 PM 'Greg P' via neonixie-l <
> neoni...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>
>> Mahdi,
>>
>> Any chance you'll make a version that will use 5971's?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, December 1, 2019 at 6:05:32 PM UTC-5, Jon D. wrote:
>>>
>>> Excellent.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Dec 1, 2019 at 2:02 PM Mahdi Al Husseini  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi, Jon,
>>>>
>>>> Great! I should have a fully assembled version by the end of the month, 
>>>> so you can see it finalized before deciding to commit. 
>>>>
>>>> Mahdi 
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Dec 1, 2019 at 3:32 PM Jon Jackson  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Mahdi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I am interested, as I've got a dozen or so ZM1350s.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jon J.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 7:54 PM Mahdi Al Husseini  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi, Richard, 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I saw your board - how nice! While the ZM1350 smart socket PCB on 
>>>>>> groupsio helped me recreate the panaplex footprint, I am building my own 
>>>>>> board in full, to include the decimal point functionality. Means of 
>>>>>> driving 
>>>>>> (PIC with discrete transistors) is pretty much the same though. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I noticed you used an 8266 and Arduino in tandem - I know exactly how 
>>>>>> you feel, and have done the same thing on occasion. I recently switched 
>>>>>> to 
>>>>>> the ESP32 and am quite glad for having done so; while the 8266 is an 
>>>>>> excellent microcontroller, it is just too pin limited. The 
>>>>>> susceptibility 
>>>>>> to program crashing also irritated me deeply. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mahdi
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 11:27 PM Richard Scales <
>>>>>> ric...@scalesweb.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If I hadn't just made such a thing I might have been but I feel that 
>>>>>>> my ZM1350 box is ticked. It does look like a great deal though.
>>>>>>> Are you driving the decimal point on the displays or are you using 
>>>>>>> the 'standard' ZM1350 Smart-Socket code which (as far as I can tell) 
>>>>>>> does 
>>>>>>> not?
>>>>>>> I added the capability to drive the decimal points but, as it turns 
>>>>>>> out - have yet to actually use them - I ended up using a whole tube for 
>>>>>>> decimal point/colon/degree symbol etc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Friday, 29 November 2019 18:16:34 UTC, Mahdi Al Husseini wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi, everyone,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm working on an eight digit ZM1350 display with a multilayered 
>>>>>>>> black anodized aluminum and black acrylic exterior. I know eight 
>>>>>>>> ZM1350s 
>>>>>>>> are hard to come by, but would anyone be interested in purchasing one, 
>>>>>>>> fully assembled without tubes, to include the casing, for around 
>>>>>>>> $300.00? 
>>>>>>>> Just gauging interest. Technically you can use however many ZM1350s as 
>>>>>>>> you 
>>>>>>>> have available; eight for the full display. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Here's a GitHub repo with some pictures to check out more. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks. I'm making it either way, but just looking to offset some 
>>>>>>>> production cost since min order is five. 
>>>>>>>>
>&

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Anyone interested in an eight digit ZM1350 display?

['Greg P' via neonixie-l]

Mahdi,

Any chance you'll make a version that will use 5971's?



On Sunday, December 1, 2019 at 6:05:32 PM UTC-5, Jon D. wrote:
>
> Excellent.
>
> On Sun, Dec 1, 2019 at 2:02 PM Mahdi Al Husseini  > wrote:
>
>> Hi, Jon,
>>
>> Great! I should have a fully assembled version by the end of the month, 
>> so you can see it finalized before deciding to commit. 
>>
>> Mahdi 
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 1, 2019 at 3:32 PM Jon Jackson > > wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Mahdi,
>>>
>>> I am interested, as I've got a dozen or so ZM1350s.
>>>
>>> Jon J.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 7:54 PM Mahdi Al Husseini >> > wrote:
>>>
 Hi, Richard, 

 I saw your board - how nice! While the ZM1350 smart socket PCB on 
 groupsio helped me recreate the panaplex footprint, I am building my own 
 board in full, to include the decimal point functionality. Means of 
 driving 
 (PIC with discrete transistors) is pretty much the same though. 

 I noticed you used an 8266 and Arduino in tandem - I know exactly how 
 you feel, and have done the same thing on occasion. I recently switched to 
 the ESP32 and am quite glad for having done so; while the 8266 is an 
 excellent microcontroller, it is just too pin limited. The susceptibility 
 to program crashing also irritated me deeply. 

 Mahdi

 On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 11:27 PM Richard Scales >>> > wrote:

> If I hadn't just made such a thing I might have been but I feel that 
> my ZM1350 box is ticked. It does look like a great deal though.
> Are you driving the decimal point on the displays or are you using the 
> 'standard' ZM1350 Smart-Socket code which (as far as I can tell) does not?
> I added the capability to drive the decimal points but, as it turns 
> out - have yet to actually use them - I ended up using a whole tube for 
> decimal point/colon/degree symbol etc.
>
>
> On Friday, 29 November 2019 18:16:34 UTC, Mahdi Al Husseini wrote:
>>
>> Hi, everyone,
>>
>> I'm working on an eight digit ZM1350 display with a multilayered 
>> black anodized aluminum and black acrylic exterior. I know eight ZM1350s 
>> are hard to come by, but would anyone be interested in purchasing one, 
>> fully assembled without tubes, to include the casing, for around 
>> $300.00? 
>> Just gauging interest. Technically you can use however many ZM1350s as 
>> you 
>> have available; eight for the full display. 
>>
>> Here's a GitHub repo with some pictures to check out more. 
>>
>> Thanks. I'm making it either way, but just looking to offset some 
>> production cost since min order is five. 
>>
>> https://github.com/csapidus/zm1350-display
>>
>> Al
>>
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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Fortress Clock

['Greg P' via neonixie-l]

Nick,

The glass effect stuff really looks like..Glass.  Had me fooled.

Nice job!



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> Hi Greg, i have both a regular clear acrylic and a glass effect acrylic...
>
> Nick
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 23, 2019, at 16:26, 'Greg P' via neonixie-l <
> neoni...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>
> 
> Very nice Nick.
>
> Is the cover glass or acrylic?
>
>
>
> On Saturday, November 23, 2019 at 2:04:30 PM UTC-5, Pramanicin wrote:
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>> Premiun Aluminium case is ready. 
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[neonixie-l] Re: Fortress Clock

['Greg P' via neonixie-l]

Very nice Nick.

Is the cover glass or acrylic?



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[neonixie-l] Re: I'm Back: ZM1022 and B-7971

['Greg P' via neonixie-l]

Welcome back Robert.

Please if you can post some pictures of the NOS 7971 tubes you have.  I've 
and many in this group have never seen an NOS one.  Seems they're all pulls 
from the Ultronics boards.




On Thursday, October 3, 2019 at 11:45:36 AM UTC-4, Robert G. Schaffrath 
wrote:
>
> It has been many years since I was active in any Nixie group. I had last 
> posted quite some time ago in the the Yahoo Groups Nixie forum.
>
> Recently I happened to do a search for some electronic components and one 
> of the "you might also be interested in" items was a Nixie clock kit. I was 
> rather surprised to see how inexpensive it was (obviously sans tubes) and, 
> upon further searching further, seeing the variety of tubes supported by 
> different kits. Way back in 2002 when I was back looking at Nixie tubes due 
> to the IEEE Spectrum article published back then, I purchased a lot of 25 
> NOS Philips ZM1022's for a relatively cheap price that I planned to use for 
> a project. I even purchased an OZ2CPU kit and assembled it but then never 
> got around to actually doing anything with it.
>
> Fast forward to now and one of the items I saw was a pre-assembled 
> ZM1020/QS30-1 clock for USD$33 that required only the power supply, tubes 
> and CR1022 backup battery. For the price I decided to take a chance, since 
> I have plenty of ZM1022 Nixie tubes. I have to say I was pleasantly 
> surprised at the quality and functionality. It even has an anti-poisoning 
> routine. I like it so much I decided to get another one.
>
> Meanwhile I was looking to see what Nixie tubes sell for now and I am 
> stunned at how the prices have skyrocketed. I see very few ZM102x tubes and 
> the prices are insane. At least the Chinese QS30's are not that expensive 
> though they still sell for more than I paid for the ZM1022's. I was also 
> amazed to see what B-7971's are selling for now. I still have my old MM5311 
> based six tube clock that I built back in 1979 and have occasionally 
> upgraded to newer components. I recently saw individual used tubes selling 
> for ~USD$130 each. I am thinking I will need to put the box of 6 NOS 
> Ultronics B-7971's I still have in a Safe Deposit box LOL. I've had them 
> for almost 40 years now and paid about USD$5 each for them from either Poly 
> Paks or Meshna Electronics (you could buy used tubes for $1 less so I 
> decided to spend the extra $1 and buy unused). I also have one used 
> Burroughs branded (not Ultronics) B-7971 as well that has a slightly 
> different interior assembly compared to the Ultronics tubes. So I currently 
> have a grand total of 13 tubes if I add in the six I am using with the old 
> clock.
>
> Finally, I have been thinking of replacing my now 40 year old handiwork 
> with the OZ2CPU kit I assembled as it supports B-7971's. The design I 
> followed uses the line frequency for time keeping. Unfortunately it tends 
> to drift quite a bit during the day and any line noise can cause the time 
> to change quite a bit. Also I am finding the whine from the multiplexed 
> tubes bothers me more now than it did when I was younger. That tells me it 
> is time to modernize.
>
>
> Robert
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[neonixie-l] Re: Pandicon on Ebay!

['Greg P' via neonixie-l]

Has anyone ever done anything with either the 8 or 14 digit Pandicons? 
 They seem to go for some decent money, but I've yet to see them 
implemented.



On Monday, September 2, 2019 at 12:36:09 PM UTC-4, SWISSNIXIE - Jonathan F. 
wrote:
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> Hi Guys,
>
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Mullard-ZM1200-Pandicon-Developmental-Nixie-Tube/193079978426?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160727114228%26meid%3Dfc4b9e139c964240be3e0ac21f64baa5%26pid%3D100290%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D193079978426%26itm%3D193079978426%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2060778&_trksid=p2060778.c100290.m3507
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> Seems like a rather "OK" price, compared to other rare tubes!
>
>
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[neonixie-l] Re: Pandicon on Ebay!

['Greg P' via neonixie-l]

Has anyone ever done anything with either the 8 or 12 digit Pandicons? 
 They seem to go for some decent money, but I've yet to see them 
implemented.



On Monday, September 2, 2019 at 12:36:09 PM UTC-4, SWISSNIXIE - Jonathan F. 
wrote:
>
> Hi Guys,
>
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Mullard-ZM1200-Pandicon-Developmental-Nixie-Tube/193079978426?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160727114228%26meid%3Dfc4b9e139c964240be3e0ac21f64baa5%26pid%3D100290%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D193079978426%26itm%3D193079978426%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2060778&_trksid=p2060778.c100290.m3507
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> Seems like a rather "OK" price, compared to other rare tubes!
>
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[neonixie-l] Somebody Got A Great Deal

['Greg P' via neonixie-l]

Good deal for someone.  Hope it was someone here.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Burroughs-NL-7094-Nixie-Tube/264407600129?hash=item3d8febcc01:g:~OSw8sZdN2gq


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[neonixie-l] Re: B8091's

['Greg P' via neonixie-l]

Seller is smoking crack.  Tube/tubes in those pictures looks like there's 
some darkening on the sides of the glass envelope.  

Potential buyers beware, this guy is shady based on my previous 
experience.

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/neonixie-l/veqAED_pleQ



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>
> Would appear that the seller changed his tactics...
>
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/NIXIE-GIANT-TUBE-3-IN-DIA-National-Electronics-NL-8091-FULLY-TESTED-EACH/283544193802?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160908105057%26meid%3Def4f9a6570954953b0217a6ac369d74a%26pid%3D100675%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D15%26sd%3D163772155093%26itm%3D283544193802&_trksid=p2481888.c100675.m4236&_trkparms=pageci%3A43d92dd4-a348-11e9-b48f-74dbd1808273%7Cparentrq%3Add57a99916b0aa66c1216446ff86d765%7Ciid%3A1
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> Offer away!! :)
>
> 
>
> Nice tubes, but not at $300 a piece.
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[neonixie-l] Re: 8091 assembly

['Greg P' via neonixie-l]

Good luck Bill.  My experience with the seller wasn't positive.  Hope you 
have a much better outcome.



On Friday, June 28, 2019 at 10:26:38 AM UTC-4, Bill Notfaded wrote:
>
> it's mine now at a reduced price... I realized I knew the tech he referred 
> to as a friend of mine from a tech forum called thwack.  It's legit. ;^}
>
> Bill
>
> On Wednesday, June 26, 2019 at 9:31:14 AM UTC-7, SWISSNIXIE - Jonathan F. 
> wrote:
>>
>> Spottet this on ebay, if anyone is interested:
>>
>>
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/NIXIE-GIANT-TUBE-3-IN-DIA-BURROUGHS-B8091-FULLY-TESTED-SET-OF-5/283528668460
>> ?
>>
>> And not such a "bad" price for this rare B8091s... i
>>
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Re: [neonixie-l] 8091 assembly

['Greg P' via neonixie-l]

Jens,

I don't personally care what he prices them at, I'm all for capitalism. (my 
issue with the seller was how he verbally attacked me when I made him an 
offer privately for all 25pcs before he put the listing on ebay)  It was 
really strange.  I just wanted to inform potential buyers this guy is 
volatile and was playing games.

On Friday, June 28, 2019 at 1:22:26 AM UTC-4, Jens Boos wrote:
>
> I guess I just don't understand why people get so upset. Let him put them 
> up for $1,000. Or $10,000. Who cares? They are his, and he can set the 
> price. Nobody is forcing anybody to buy them :)
>
> Jens
>
> On 2019-06-27 10:39 p.m., gregebert wrote:
>
> >Jens Boos wrote: 
>>
>> To be fair, even for used tubes $200 for a set of 5 is a tad optimistic 
>> ;-)
>>
>
> Absolutely! Since I'm not dead-set on building an 8091-based clock, I'm 
> only bidding opportunistically.
> If I got them, they would go into a box until I have time to build 
> something a few years from now.
>
> It's too easy to get caught-up in nixie-tube bidding based on how much you 
> might want a particular tube (I'm an addict, and I want themwhat can I 
> say ???), so I've cut-out the emotional part of how I value a tube, and 
> base my bid on cost for a given size relative to other available tubes. No 
> surprise, I lose a lot of auctions. But at least my garage doesn't look 
> like an episode of 'Extreme Hoarders' on TV.
>
> The 1.375" (35mm)  character-height of a b8091 is less than a IN-18 
> (40mm), and these b8091 tubes have an undocumented history.
> They are substantially smaller than the RZ568m, which is brand-new, has a 
> 10-year warranty, and in my opinion has better construction.
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Re: [neonixie-l] 8091 assembly

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This guy is a complete flake.  Looks like he's getting nervous no one has 
bitten on his price.  I may bid a dollar for the hell of it.  

Just think he has 4 more of these Telectron units to list after this one.  



On Thursday, June 27, 2019 at 11:29:11 PM UTC-4, gregebert wrote:
>
> Price reduction!!  It's now 1249.99   
>
> Make-offer is now enabled, but my offer of $200 was immediately rejected, 
> meaning the seller has set a higher threshold and did not even consider 
> mine.
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Re: [neonixie-l] Got a spare $1000?

['Greg P' via neonixie-l]

I don't begrudge him making $6250 all the more power to him if he can. 
 Just not for me and his behavior was uncalled for.  Just wanted to warn 
potential buyers of his volatility. 



On Wednesday, June 26, 2019 at 7:04:09 PM UTC-4, Pramanicin wrote:
>
> No worries Greg, I honestly believe you. He probably thinks he can make 
> $6250 from all these tubes...with that amount of money at stake, that may 
> explain (although not condone!) such rude behavior...
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 3:56 PM 'Greg P' via neonixie-l <
> neoni...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>
>> Nick,
>>
>> He viciously attacked me for what he perceived as a low ball offer for 
>> all 25pcs of these tubes.  I just want to warn any potential buyers he's 
>> volatile.  I never said he was a fraud, but just to proceed with caution in 
>> dealing with him.  I agree, they're worth what you're willing to pay, and 
>> I'm not willing to pay $250 a tube for these.  
>>
>> He had a negative feedback earlier this morning, I saw it and it was the 
>> most recent one, BTW.  It's since been deleted.  
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, June 26, 2019 at 6:47:47 PM UTC-4, Pramanicin wrote:
>>>
>>> He has a good feedback profile, including a prior nixie tube sale. 
>>> Personal insults aren't kosher for sure, but maybe this is a legit auction? 
>>> Anyway, $250 a tube is *a lot of money* for these, but things are worth 
>>> what people will pay for them after all...I've certainly spent more than 
>>> that on a tube or more in my lifetimelife is short, enjoy what you 
>>> enjoy.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 3:43 PM Jon Jackson  wrote:
>>>
>>>> He just added that...it wasn't there earlier today ( a few hours ago).
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 4:41 PM J Forbes  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> the last picture shows a tube lit up
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, June 26, 2019 at 9:58:03 AM UTC-7, gregebert wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The seller says tubes are tested, but did not post any photos showing 
>>>>>> that. Since there are 5 tubes, it's not a perfect-fit for a clock.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  
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Re: [neonixie-l] Got a spare $1000?

['Greg P' via neonixie-l]

Nick,

He viciously attacked me for what he perceived as a low ball offer for all 
25pcs of these tubes.  I just want to warn any potential buyers he's 
volatile.  I never said he was a fraud, but just to proceed with caution in 
dealing with him.  I agree, they're worth what you're willing to pay, and 
I'm not willing to pay $250 a tube for these.  

He had a negative feedback earlier this morning, I saw it and it was the 
most recent one, BTW.  It's since been deleted.  



On Wednesday, June 26, 2019 at 6:47:47 PM UTC-4, Pramanicin wrote:
>
> He has a good feedback profile, including a prior nixie tube sale. 
> Personal insults aren't kosher for sure, but maybe this is a legit auction? 
> Anyway, $250 a tube is *a lot of money* for these, but things are worth 
> what people will pay for them after all...I've certainly spent more than 
> that on a tube or more in my lifetimelife is short, enjoy what you 
> enjoy.
>
> On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 3:43 PM Jon Jackson  > wrote:
>
>> He just added that...it wasn't there earlier today ( a few hours ago).
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 4:41 PM J Forbes > 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> the last picture shows a tube lit up
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, June 26, 2019 at 9:58:03 AM UTC-7, gregebert wrote:

 The seller says tubes are tested, but did not post any photos showing 
 that. Since there are 5 tubes, it's not a perfect-fit for a clock.

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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: 8091 assembly

['Greg P' via neonixie-l]

It was the most recent feedback.  I saw it with my own eyes.  Wish I took a 
screenshot, but it was there and deleted later in the day.  

On Wednesday, June 26, 2019 at 6:18:32 PM UTC-4, I wrote:
>
> I don't understand that. My understanding is that once feedback is left by 
> the buyer, I know for a fact, from talking with an Ebay rep, that the BUYER 
> can NOT remove it. I believe that the same is also true for the seller. 
> HOWEVER it is my understanding that the current feedback system is on a 
> rolling 12 month system, so that feedback that is older than 12 months is 
> automatically deleted. Is that what happened here??  If someone knows 
> something different, please let us all know.   Ira.
>
> On 6/26/2019 3:01 PM, 'Greg P' via neonixie-l wrote:
>
> Forgot to mention.  Seller deleted negative feedback.  When I checked the 
> listing this morning, there was negative feedback posted by someone.  It's 
> since been deleted. 
>
> Potential buyers seriously proceed with caution buying from this seller.
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, June 26, 2019 at 12:31:14 PM UTC-4, SWISSNIXIE - Jonathan F. 
> wrote: 
>>
>> Spottet this on ebay, if anyone is interested:
>>
>>
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/NIXIE-GIANT-TUBE-3-IN-DIA-BURROUGHS-B8091-FULLY-TESTED-SET-OF-5/283528668460
>> ?
>>
>> And not such a "bad" price for this rare B8091s... i
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[neonixie-l] Re: 8091 assembly

['Greg P' via neonixie-l]

Forgot to mention.  Seller deleted negative feedback.  When I checked the 
listing this morning, there was negative feedback posted by someone.  It's 
since been deleted.

Potential buyers seriously proceed with caution buying from this seller.



On Wednesday, June 26, 2019 at 12:31:14 PM UTC-4, SWISSNIXIE - Jonathan F. 
wrote:
>
> Spottet this on ebay, if anyone is interested:
>
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/NIXIE-GIANT-TUBE-3-IN-DIA-BURROUGHS-B8091-FULLY-TESTED-SET-OF-5/283528668460
> ?
>
> And not such a "bad" price for this rare B8091s... i
>

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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: 8091 assembly

['Greg P' via neonixie-l]

Seller finally put up a lousy picture of one cathode lit.  

AGAIN, potential buyers proceed with caution.  Read my earlier post.



On Wednesday, June 26, 2019 at 2:46:40 PM UTC-4, M1 wrote:
>
> I am amazed that there isn’t even a picture of the top view of the tubes 
> (not even considering that they are not lit up).
>
>  
>
> Michail Wilson
>
> 206-920-6312
>
>  
>
> *From:* 'Greg P' via neonixie-l [mailto:neoni...@googlegroups.com 
> ] 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 26, 2019 10:18 AM
> *To:* neonixie-l
> *Subject:* Re: [neonixie-l] Re: 8091 assembly
>
>  
>
> Kevin,
>
>  
>
> You have no idea.  All because he was "insulted" by my initial low offer. 
>  Seriously, he harassed me on facebook making pretty bold accusations. 
>  Good thing I have a thick skin.
>
>  
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, June 26, 2019 at 1:01:39 PM UTC-4, Kevin A. wrote:
>
> Wow, thanks for sharing your experience. Would suck to pay big bucks just 
> to get stiffed by some guy who resorts to name calling. 
>
>  
>
> On Wed, Jun 26, 2019, 12:42 PM 'Greg P' via neonixie-l <
> neoni...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> This seller has been fishing to sell these tubes for months.  He posted 
> these plus 20 others on Facebook a few months ago.  I tried to make a 
> private deal with him for over 2 months and wouldn't put a price on them.  
> Avoided the question every time we corresponded.  Also made excuses about 
> having a friend test them before he would sell.  Anyhow, he reached back to 
> me when they were "allegedly" tested and said make an offer.  I made an 
> offer to purchase all 25 (which he found my price insulting, BTW) and 
> proceeded to call me all kinds of names, accusations etc. (which I won't 
> post here) and was downright vicious.  Maybe my offer was on the low side 
> but you got to start negotiating at some point especially when he wouldn't 
> give me a starting point.  He harassed me privately on Facebook until I had 
> to block him.  
>
>  
>
> Needless to say, if anyone is considering purchasing these, I'd be 
> cautious.  Additionally, there are no pictures of any of these tubes lit in 
> our private correspondence or on the ebay listing.  
>
>  
>
> At $250/tube plus shipping overpriced in my book.  If anyone is 
> considering and would like additional info, I'd be happy to converse 
> privately and off the board.  
>
>  
>
> Caveat Emptor!
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, June 26, 2019 at 12:31:14 PM UTC-4, SWISSNIXIE - Jonathan F. 
> wrote:
>
> Spottet this on ebay, if anyone is interested:
>
>  
>
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/NIXIE-GIANT-TUBE-3-IN-DIA-BURROUGHS-B8091-FULLY-TESTED-SET-OF-5/283528668460
> ?
>
>  
>
> And not such a "bad" price for this rare B8091s... i
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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: 8091 assembly

['Greg P' via neonixie-l]

Kevin,

You have no idea.  All because he was "insulted" by my initial low offer. 
 Seriously, he harassed me on facebook making pretty bold accusations. 
 Good thing I have a thick skin.



On Wednesday, June 26, 2019 at 1:01:39 PM UTC-4, Kevin A. wrote:
>
> Wow, thanks for sharing your experience. Would suck to pay big bucks just 
> to get stiffed by some guy who resorts to name calling. 
>
> On Wed, Jun 26, 2019, 12:42 PM 'Greg P' via neonixie-l <
> neoni...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>
>> This seller has been fishing to sell these tubes for months.  He posted 
>> these plus 20 others on Facebook a few months ago.  I tried to make a 
>> private deal with him for over 2 months and wouldn't put a price on them.  
>> Avoided the question every time we corresponded.  Also made excuses about 
>> having a friend test them before he would sell.  Anyhow, he reached back to 
>> me when they were "allegedly" tested and said make an offer.  I made an 
>> offer to purchase all 25 (which he found my price insulting, BTW) and 
>> proceeded to call me all kinds of names, accusations etc. (which I won't 
>> post here) and was downright vicious.  Maybe my offer was on the low side 
>> but you got to start negotiating at some point especially when he wouldn't 
>> give me a starting point.  He harassed me privately on Facebook until I had 
>> to block him.  
>>
>> Needless to say, if anyone is considering purchasing these, I'd be 
>> cautious.  Additionally, there are no pictures of any of these tubes lit in 
>> our private correspondence or on the ebay listing.  
>>
>> At $250/tube plus shipping overpriced in my book.  If anyone is 
>> considering and would like additional info, I'd be happy to converse 
>> privately and off the board.  
>>
>> Caveat Emptor!
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, June 26, 2019 at 12:31:14 PM UTC-4, SWISSNIXIE - Jonathan 
>> F. wrote:
>>>
>>> Spottet this on ebay, if anyone is interested:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/NIXIE-GIANT-TUBE-3-IN-DIA-BURROUGHS-B8091-FULLY-TESTED-SET-OF-5/283528668460
>>> ?
>>>
>>> And not such a "bad" price for this rare B8091s... i
>>>
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[neonixie-l] Re: 8091 assembly

['Greg P' via neonixie-l]

This seller has been fishing to sell these tubes for months.  He posted 
these plus 20 others on Facebook a few months ago.  I tried to make a 
private deal with him for over 2 months and wouldn't put a price on them. 
 Avoided the question every time we corresponded.  Also made excuses about 
having a friend test them before he would sell.  Anyhow, he reached back to 
me when they were "allegedly" tested and said make an offer.  I made an 
offer to purchase all 25 (which he found my price insulting, BTW) and 
proceeded to call me all kinds of names, accusations etc. (which I won't 
post here) and was downright vicious.  Maybe my offer was on the low side 
but you got to start negotiating at some point especially when he wouldn't 
give me a starting point.  He harassed me privately on Facebook until I had 
to block him.  

Needless to say, if anyone is considering purchasing these, I'd be 
cautious.  Additionally, there are no pictures of any of these tubes lit in 
our private correspondence or on the ebay listing.  

At $250/tube plus shipping overpriced in my book.  If anyone is considering 
and would like additional info, I'd be happy to converse privately and off 
the board.  

Caveat Emptor!


On Wednesday, June 26, 2019 at 12:31:14 PM UTC-4, SWISSNIXIE - Jonathan F. 
wrote:
>
> Spottet this on ebay, if anyone is interested:
>
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/NIXIE-GIANT-TUBE-3-IN-DIA-BURROUGHS-B8091-FULLY-TESTED-SET-OF-5/283528668460
> ?
>
> And not such a "bad" price for this rare B8091s... i
>

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[neonixie-l] Re: Rare B8971 Nixie tubes

['Greg P' via neonixie-l]

Hmmm




On Thursday, June 20, 2019 at 2:06:59 AM UTC-4, Robert L wrote:
>
> As Michael says... H
>
> [image: IMG_20190512_082331 (Large).jpg]
>
>
> [image: IMG_20190512_082252 (Large).jpg]
>
>
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Re: [neonixie-l] Rare B8971 Nixie tubes

['Greg P' via neonixie-l]

Hi Bill,

Looking for direct drive clock that can also generate words since these 
tubes are alphanumeric.  I have zero programming skills so hoping something 
will present itself.



On Tuesday, June 18, 2019 at 4:52:45 PM UTC-4, Bill Stanley wrote:
>
> Hi Greg;
>
> I have a ongoing clock design where I separate the CPU from the display. 
> The main CPU board uses a SiLabs 8051 class CPU with LOTS of features (some 
> might be considered a bit crazy).
> The CPU generates all voltages (the 170 is adjustable under firmware for 
> higher-voltage tubes. The cathode data is serial to the display drivers 
> (using HV5812PJ-G). This was so I was no locked into the
> 10 cathode Nixie format, I can do Panaplex, LEDs, of 14 segment British 
> Flag displays, just a Small Matter of Programming.
>
> For display, I have the small display board with 9 IN-14 + IN 19 tubes 
> with QTC sockets. I have the large display for 6 Z5600M Nixie + 3 IN-15 or 
> IN12+1N15. I also have a display Hub that breaks out the display
> signals to 3 (H/M/S) separate 20 pin ribbon that connects to a 3 tube 
> display cluster.
>
> I used the basic design to create a "Back to the Future" time console for 
> a friend where the date is displayed with 14 segment LEDs
>
> Were you just looking for a clock (or something more)?
>
>
>   -Newer Bill-
>
>
> On Saturday, October 13, 2018 at 6:49:32 AM UTC-7, Greg P wrote:
>>
>> I wish someone would make a clock or a kit for the 5971's.  I have a 
>> bunch of them I'd like to light up.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, October 12, 2018 at 6:15:57 PM UTC-4, Pramanicin wrote:
>>>
>>> The 5971’s are cute too... 
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone 
>>>
>>> > On Oct 12, 2018, at 15:12, Michail Wilson  wrote: 
>>> > 
>>> > Those are nice. 
>>> > 
>>> > I didn't know they even existed. 
>>> > 
>>> > Are you sure NOS 7971?  Seems that NOS doesn't exist for those. 
>>> > 
>>> > Anyway, I think you're be happier with the 7971 even if not NOS. 
>>> > 
>>> > Michail 
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > -Original Message- 
>>> > From: neoni...@googlegroups.com [mailto:neoni...@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of Kevin A. 
>>> > Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 1:01 PM 
>>> > To: neonixie-l 
>>> > Subject: [neonixie-l] Rare B8971 Nixie tubes 
>>> > 
>>> > Hey guys, 
>>> > 
>>> > Just thought I'd share some pictures of my latest purchase; six 
>>> Burroughs B8971 tubes. These babies are in great shape, and as far as I can 
>>> tell are quite rare. 
>>> > 
>>> > I'm going to trade 1:1 with a buddy of mine for some NOS 7971s. I 
>>> originally wanted the bigger tube, even though they are more common. These 
>>> are really for a guy who has it all and craves the rarity, aka my pal. 
>>> > 
>>> > Anyways, thought I'd snap some pictures and show them here before I 
>>> trade. Take a look: 
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Re: [neonixie-l] Rare B8971 Nixie tubes

['Greg P' via neonixie-l]

Michail,

Yes, I do.  Been waiting in the wings for someone to make a kit/clock.  At 
this time, not willing to part with any.



On Tuesday, June 18, 2019 at 4:07:40 PM UTC-4, M1 wrote:
>
> Greg,
>
>  
>
> Still have a bunch of them?
>
>  
>
> Michail
>
>  
>
> *From:* neoni...@googlegroups.com  [mailto:
> neoni...@googlegroups.com ] *On Behalf Of *Greg P
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 13, 2018 6:50 AM
> *To:* neonixie-l
> *Subject:* Re: [neonixie-l] Rare B8971 Nixie tubes
>
>  
>
> I wish someone would make a clock or a kit for the 5971's.  I have a bunch 
> of them I'd like to light up.
>
>  
>
>
>
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[neonixie-l] Re: Got a spare $1000?

['Greg P' via neonixie-l]

Looks like the tubes are soldered directly to the PCB.  I'd stay away.



On Saturday, June 8, 2019 at 9:01:29 PM UTC-4, martin martin wrote:
>
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/NIXIE-TUBE-CLOCK-RARE-INDIKATORS-Z5680M-HANDMADE/163723699102?hash=item261eb1639e:g:CIgAAOSwIdlc2Ti2
>
> Maybe it's me, but does seem high..
>
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[neonixie-l] Re: Looking for FR9020AAs

['Greg P' via neonixie-l]

Good luck.Super rare and don't come up for sale very often.



On Monday, May 20, 2019 at 10:17:28 PM UTC-4, Mahdi Al Husseini wrote:
>
> I know this quite the long shot, but does anyone have or know someone who 
> owns FR9020s by CRF? Gorgeous tubes, looking to buy. 
>
> These: 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYrCMLGXkvo
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Re: [neonixie-l] NL7037 Fair Market Value

['Greg P' via neonixie-l]

7037's have a very course anode grid and their pinout is mirror image of 
the Z568M or Dalibor tube.  So if you're planning on using them in an 
existing Z568M compatible PCB they'll be backwards.



On Monday, May 13, 2019 at 8:41:36 PM UTC-4, Nick wrote:
>
> Dalibor has sold 1,000s of these and several members here (including me) 
> have his clocks ...
>
> The tubes are fantastic, but it's like a reproduction classic car...
>
> ...if you want the original, only the original will do, and they are rare 
> and expensive.
>
> Nick
>
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Re: [neonixie-l] Pricing Insanity

['Greg P' via neonixie-l]

Jeff,

That is still the going price.  There seems to be an endless supply of 
Z566M and IN-18's out there.



On Sunday, May 12, 2019 at 7:17:52 PM UTC-4, Jeff Walton wrote:
>
> Last time I bought any, they were $45 each plus shipping.   Maybe he was 
> confused with Z568...  I guess if you put "rare" in the description the 
> price automatically goes up.  :) 
>
> Jeff 
>
>  Original message 
> From: Nicholas Stock > 
> Date: 5/12/19 5:58 PM (GMT-06:00) 
> To: neoni...@googlegroups.com  
> Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Pricing Insanity 
>
> Clearly living his own reality...
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 12, 2019, at 14:43, alex nolan  > wrote:
>
> For what it's worth, the seller countered my fair price offer with an 
> offer of $750.00, much more reasonable /s
>
> On Sunday, May 12, 2019 at 10:14:45 AM UTC-4, Greg P wrote:
>>
>> Seller must have had a change of heart after all the chatter circling the 
>> web on this topic.  He's now lowered them to a much more affordable $950.00
>>
>>
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Z566M-VINTAGE-NIXIE-6pcs-Perfect-Working-NOT-Used-BEYOND-RARE/133047448056?hash=item1efa3ef1f8:g:uZkAAOSwsVtc1KpE
>>
>> I guess now they're just RARE and not BEYOND Rare.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, May 10, 2019 at 9:32:41 AM UTC-4, Pramanicin wrote:
>>>
>>> Ha ha ha....nice one Bill.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On May 10, 2019, at 06:30, Bill van Dijk  wrote:
>>>
>>> But you’ll earn $10 in Ebay bucks……. J
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> *From:* 'Greg P' via neonixie-l [mailto:n...@googlegroups.com] 
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, May 09, 2019 8:16 PM
>>> *To:* neonixie-l 
>>> *Subject:* [neonixie-l] Pricing Insanity
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> I want some of what this guy is drinking.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Z566M-VINTAGE-NIXIE-6pcs-Perfect-Working-NOT-Used-BEYOND-RARE/133047448056?hash=item1efa3ef1f8:g:uZkAAOSwsVtc1KpE
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> When the going price is $250-300 for a set of 6.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Silly thing is someone will probably pay it.
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Re: [neonixie-l] Pricing Insanity

['Greg P' via neonixie-l]

Seller must have had a change of heart after all the chatter circling the 
web on this topic.  He's now lowered them to a much more affordable $950.00

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Z566M-VINTAGE-NIXIE-6pcs-Perfect-Working-NOT-Used-BEYOND-RARE/133047448056?hash=item1efa3ef1f8:g:uZkAAOSwsVtc1KpE

I guess now they're just RARE and not BEYOND Rare.



On Friday, May 10, 2019 at 9:32:41 AM UTC-4, Pramanicin wrote:
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> Ha ha hanice one Bill.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 10, 2019, at 06:30, Bill van Dijk  > wrote:
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> But you’ll earn $10 in Ebay bucks……. J
>
>  
>
> *From:* 'Greg P' via neonixie-l [mailto:n...@googlegroups.com 
> ] 
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 09, 2019 8:16 PM
> *To:* neonixie-l >
> *Subject:* [neonixie-l] Pricing Insanity
>
>  
>
> I want some of what this guy is drinking.
>
>  
>
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Z566M-VINTAGE-NIXIE-6pcs-Perfect-Working-NOT-Used-BEYOND-RARE/133047448056?hash=item1efa3ef1f8:g:uZkAAOSwsVtc1KpE
>
>  
>
> When the going price is $250-300 for a set of 6.
>
>  
>
> Silly thing is someone will probably pay it.
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Re: [neonixie-l] Pricing Insanity

['Greg P' via neonixie-l]

That too Kevin



On Thursday, May 9, 2019 at 8:58:20 PM UTC-4, Kevin A. wrote:
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> Drinking?
>
> More like smoking, injecting, or dissolving under the tongue! 
>
> On Thu, May 9, 2019, 8:16 PM 'Greg P' via neonixie-l <
> neoni...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>
>> I want some of what this guy is drinking.
>>
>>
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Z566M-VINTAGE-NIXIE-6pcs-Perfect-Working-NOT-Used-BEYOND-RARE/133047448056?hash=item1efa3ef1f8:g:uZkAAOSwsVtc1KpE
>>
>> When the going price is $250-300 for a set of 6.
>>
>> Silly thing is someone will probably pay it.
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[neonixie-l] Pricing Insanity

['Greg P' via neonixie-l]

I want some of what this guy is drinking.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Z566M-VINTAGE-NIXIE-6pcs-Perfect-Working-NOT-Used-BEYOND-RARE/133047448056?hash=item1efa3ef1f8:g:uZkAAOSwsVtc1KpE

When the going price is $250-300 for a set of 6.

Silly thing is someone will probably pay it.

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Re: [neonixie-l] Hewlett Packard Power Cord

['Greg P' via neonixie-l]

Thanks that would be great.I'll send you a private message.



On Tuesday, May 7, 2019 at 1:50:24 PM UTC-4, nixiebunny wrote:
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> I have access to dozens of these, for free. Send me an email 
> da...@cathodecorner.com 
>
>
> On Tue, May 7, 2019, 10:44 AM gregebert > 
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>> 3D printer is very handy for things like this.
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Re: [neonixie-l] Hewlett Packard Power Cord

['Greg P' via neonixie-l]

Thanks MartinI'm going to check locally.  Apex has some listed on Ebay 
so I can always order.  I'm just being cheap not wanting to spend $35 for 
one.



On Tuesday, May 7, 2019 at 10:44:41 AM UTC-4, martin martin wrote:
>
> I can get one and send it, but might be easier to convert to the PC type.  
> Depending on space. 
>
> On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 07:37 'Greg P' via neonixie-l <
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>> Martin...Unfortunately, I'm in Pennsylvania...I hear Apex is a really 
>> cool place.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, May 7, 2019 at 10:31:03 AM UTC-4, martin martin wrote:
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>>> What state are you in?
>>> There’s a surplus store in San Fernando CA called Apex 
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 07:28 'Greg P' via neonixie-l <
>>> neoni...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Anyone know where I can find a power cord for an old HP Frequency 
>>>> Counter that I just got.  Seems these have been obsolete for a while and 
>>>> Belden doesn't make them anymore.
>>>>
>>>> I've checked Ebay and some are stupid expensive, almost as much as I 
>>>> paid for the counter.
>>>>
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Re: [neonixie-l] Hewlett Packard Power Cord

['Greg P' via neonixie-l]

Martin...Unfortunately, I'm in Pennsylvania...I hear Apex is a really cool 
place.




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> What state are you in?
> There’s a surplus store in San Fernando CA called Apex 
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> On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 07:28 'Greg P' via neonixie-l <
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>
>> Anyone know where I can find a power cord for an old HP Frequency Counter 
>> that I just got.  Seems these have been obsolete for a while and Belden 
>> doesn't make them anymore.
>>
>> I've checked Ebay and some are stupid expensive, almost as much as I paid 
>> for the counter.
>>
>> This is the style...Any leads would be greatly appreciated
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[neonixie-l] Hewlett Packard Power Cord

['Greg P' via neonixie-l]

Anyone know where I can find a power cord for an old HP Frequency Counter 
that I just got.  Seems these have been obsolete for a while and Belden 
doesn't make them anymore.

I've checked Ebay and some are stupid expensive, almost as much as I paid 
for the counter.

This is the style...Any leads would be greatly appreciated

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Re: [neonixie-l] More crazy because of anime movie...

['Greg P' via neonixie-l]

I'd be glad to sell some of my 7971's for that price.  Crazy how much these 
have shot up recently.



On Friday, May 3, 2019 at 6:05:59 PM UTC-4, Bill Notfaded wrote:
>
> It's up to 356$ in the auction for these tubes now soldered to the PCB? 
>  It's not the correct tubes for the anime movie clock... Go figure???  And 
> it's not even over yet!
>
> Bill
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[neonixie-l] Re: A Trip Down Memory Lane...

['Greg P' via neonixie-l]

I have the predecessor to that one.  The very first one Jeff made.  I 
treasure it.  Do you have a manual or BOM for it you could share?



On Wednesday, May 1, 2019 at 5:06:41 PM UTC-4, Pramanicin wrote:
>
> Was going through my ‘treasures’...:-) Found this, an original Jeff Thomas 
> Commemorative Nixie Clock from 2000. Still works! Uses NL840 tubesthis 
> was the first clock I ever made and it’s been seriously downhill ever 
> since...   
>
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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Nixie Socket for B5971 & B8971

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I too have a stash of 5971's I'd like to put to use.  I'll be curious to 
see how the Smart Socket project turns out.  How many tubes will be in your 
7971 array?



On Thursday, April 25, 2019 at 10:47:20 PM UTC-4, Bill Notfaded wrote:
>
> I concur Greg my emerald is a keeper... I can't wait until Michail and 
> team get our baby 5971's smartsockets going too! I'll make some video of 
> the whole family together.  ;^}
>
> I'm working on a bigger 7971 array with Taylor ss and a raspberry pi3 
> front end so I can sky is limit interface to the array connected to the net.
>
> Bill
>
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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Nixie Socket for B5971 & B8971

['Greg P' via neonixie-l]

My money is the 8971's were made in much smaller numbers.  I've only ever 
seen them sold by one seller, and he's sold out now.  5971's pop up 
frequently.

Glad I got mine when I did and they're glowing proudly in my Black Emerald.



On Thursday, April 25, 2019 at 8:56:40 AM UTC-4, Bill Notfaded wrote:
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> I wish someone would sell that many sets of B-8971!  We can dream.  I 
> wonder which were made in smaller numbers the 5971 or 8971?

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[neonixie-l] Re: 2 Nixie Tubes Burroughs B-7971 Alphanumeric 15-segment retro

['Greg P' via neonixie-l]

I have plenty available at that price WOW!




On Wednesday, April 3, 2019 at 11:24:21 PM UTC-4, Pramanicin wrote:
>
> Really folks? $530 for two tubes???
>
>
> Look at this on eBay
> 2 Nixie Tubes Burroughs B-7971 Alphanumeric 15-segment retro  
> 
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: 8971/7971 clocks

['Greg P' via neonixie-l]

Which version of the CPU board is on your V2 MOD-SIX?  Pretty sure you need 
to have the revision without the PS/2 connector installed and a version of 
the firmware that added PIR functionality. 

I'm sure Michael or Carl can confirm.



On Sunday, March 31, 2019 at 7:39:11 PM UTC-4, Bill Notfaded wrote:
>
> I'm still waiting for my black emerald 7971... But it's neat seeing the 
> 8971 on the base.  I'll put my black emerald next to my V2 8-08 and retire 
> it's GPS extender to storage.  I suppose the new wireless PIR I'm getting 
> won't work with my older mod-six will it?  I know the GPS will work with 
> both Michael told me so.  I'm not sure about the PIR though?
>
> Really love those smaller alpha numerics though!  Nice find on those 
> bulbs!  I read you going them in New York right?
>
> On Sun, Mar 31, 2019, 4:32 PM 'Greg P' via neonixie-l <
> neoni...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>
>> Nice pic Nick!  
>>
>> Carl and Michael did do a fantastic job on these pieces.  I'm enjoying 
>> mine and really loving the Black Emerald.  Nice to finally see the 8971's 
>> lit up.
>>
>> I have 4 clocks tied to my Wireless PIR.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, March 30, 2019 at 4:51:36 PM UTC-4, Pramanicin wrote:
>>>
>>> Gratuitous Nixie Porn.
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_0402.jpg]
>>>
>>> The wireless PIR is great.
>>>
>>> Nice job Carl and Michael, lovely clocks.
>>>
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[neonixie-l] Re: 8971/7971 clocks

['Greg P' via neonixie-l]

Nice pic Nick!  

Carl and Michael did do a fantastic job on these pieces.  I'm enjoying mine 
and really loving the Black Emerald.  Nice to finally see the 8971's lit up.

I have 4 clocks tied to my Wireless PIR.




On Saturday, March 30, 2019 at 4:51:36 PM UTC-4, Pramanicin wrote:
>
> Gratuitous Nixie Porn.
>
> [image: IMG_0402.jpg]
>
> The wireless PIR is great.
>
> Nice job Carl and Michael, lovely clocks.
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[neonixie-l] Re: Something new something old...

[Greg P]

Jeff Thomas' NixiSat is no slouch either!!!

Both great clocks.  NixiSat is what started it all for me.  

On Sunday, December 23, 2018 at 3:29:32 PM UTC-5, Nick wrote:
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> Just got to love Dalibor's work...
>
> Nick
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Re: [neonixie-l] Rare B8971 Nixie tubes

[Greg P]

I wish someone would make a clock or a kit for the 5971's.  I have a bunch 
of them I'd like to light up.



On Friday, October 12, 2018 at 6:15:57 PM UTC-4, Pramanicin wrote:
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> The 5971’s are cute too... 
>
> Sent from my iPhone 
>
> > On Oct 12, 2018, at 15:12, Michail Wilson  wrote: 
> > 
> > Those are nice. 
> > 
> > I didn't know they even existed. 
> > 
> > Are you sure NOS 7971?  Seems that NOS doesn't exist for those. 
> > 
> > Anyway, I think you're be happier with the 7971 even if not NOS. 
> > 
> > Michail 
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message- 
> > From: neoni...@googlegroups.com  [mailto:
> neoni...@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of Kevin A. 
> > Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 1:01 PM 
> > To: neonixie-l 
> > Subject: [neonixie-l] Rare B8971 Nixie tubes 
> > 
> > Hey guys, 
> > 
> > Just thought I'd share some pictures of my latest purchase; six 
> Burroughs B8971 tubes. These babies are in great shape, and as far as I can 
> tell are quite rare. 
> > 
> > I'm going to trade 1:1 with a buddy of mine for some NOS 7971s. I 
> originally wanted the bigger tube, even though they are more common. These 
> are really for a guy who has it all and craves the rarity, aka my pal. 
> > 
> > Anyways, thought I'd snap some pictures and show them here before I 
> trade. Take a look: 
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Re: [neonixie-l] 'Omnixie' Smart Wifi Nixie Clock released

[Greg P]

When might we see the larger tube versions available?




On Thursday, March 15, 2018 at 9:19:28 AM UTC-4, 严泽远 wrote:
>
> Hi Dan, I'm going to make another version compatible with ZM1040, Z566M 
> and IN-18 tubes, same functions.
>
> Yan.
>
> 在 2018年3月15日星期四 UTC+8上午2:47:35，bani写道：
>>
>> On Tue, 13 Mar 2018, 严泽�¿~\ wrote: 
>> > Six years have past since my last Nixie Clock released, today I 
>> finished my 
>> > new Nixie project 'Omnixie', a smart Wifi Nixie Clock. 
>>
>> Missing IN-18 support. This makes me sad. 
>>
>> -Dan
>
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[neonixie-l] Re: IN-18 Blue Dream PWB

[Greg P]

Thanks for the clarification.  That's a new one on me, never heard that 
term.

What exactly is the issue with your clock?  I'm sure the folks here can 
help troubleshoot the issue or failing components.  Might not be necessary 
to source a new PCB.

Have you reached out to the Nocrotec/Dieter for help?



On Tuesday, December 26, 2017 at 2:48:54 PM UTC-5, dixter wrote:
>
> PWB = Printed wire board or PCB= Printed circuit board   
>
> On Tuesday, December 26, 2017 at 11:37:50 AM UTC-6, Greg P wrote:
>>
>> What is a PWB kit? 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 26, 2017 at 10:35:46 AM UTC-5, dixter wrote:
>>>
>>> Any one have a source for a PWB for the IN-18 Blue Dream Clock  mine 
>>> is acting up and I am wondering how long it will last  so I am going to 
>>> try and purchase a new PWB kit to fix it
>>>
>>> thanks
>>> Dixter
>>>
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[neonixie-l] Re: IN-18 Blue Dream PWB

[Greg P]

What is a PWB kit? 



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>
> Any one have a source for a PWB for the IN-18 Blue Dream Clock  mine 
> is acting up and I am wondering how long it will last  so I am going to 
> try and purchase a new PWB kit to fix it
>
> thanks
> Dixter
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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: 4x CD47 / GR-414 - Ultra Rare Nixie Tubes

[Greg P]

Thanksall the more reason, I'll save my money and wait for Dalibor to 
release a superior alternative for 1/5th the price.



On Saturday, October 14, 2017 at 10:53:34 AM UTC-4, MichaelS wrote:
>
> Probably not.  I haven't seen anything saying that they're long life 
> tubes, but have seen several pics of darkened smaller versions (70mm 
> GR311's.)  
>
> On Thursday, October 12, 2017 at 8:13:17 AM UTC-5, Greg P wrote:
>>
>> Does anyone know if they're long life (mercury) type tubes?  I'd hate to 
>> spend that kind of $$$ on them and have them sputter out when being used.  
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, October 12, 2017 at 4:29:37 AM UTC-4, Nick wrote:
>>>
>>> On Thursday, 12 October 2017 09:14:30 UTC+4, SWISSNIXIE - Jonathan F. 
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I heard a story that they were used in weight stations for trucks. 
>>>> There is symbol tube in the same size made by rodan that can display "kg" 
>>>> and "t" which would make the story plausible.
>>>
>>>
>>> True - the systems are called "weighbridges" - the digits were big so 
>>> that they could be read from the trucks.
>>>
>>> I also heard that they were in East Germany,,,
>>>
>>> Whatever anyone else thinks, I like them. Used to have quite a few, sold 
>>> most, now just one set of 6 left (not in a clock at the moment)
>>>
>>> Nick 
>>>
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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: 4x CD47 / GR-414 - Ultra Rare Nixie Tubes

[Greg P]

Does anyone know if they're long life (mercury) type tubes?  I'd hate to 
spend that kind of $$$ on them and have them sputter out when being used.  



On Thursday, October 12, 2017 at 4:29:37 AM UTC-4, Nick wrote:
>
> On Thursday, 12 October 2017 09:14:30 UTC+4, SWISSNIXIE - Jonathan F. 
> wrote:
>>
>> I heard a story that they were used in weight stations for trucks. There 
>> is symbol tube in the same size made by rodan that can display "kg" and "t" 
>> which would make the story plausible.
>
>
> True - the systems are called "weighbridges" - the digits were big so that 
> they could be read from the trucks.
>
> I also heard that they were in East Germany,,,
>
> Whatever anyone else thinks, I like them. Used to have quite a few, sold 
> most, now just one set of 6 left (not in a clock at the moment)
>
> Nick 
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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: IN18 Blue Dream out-of-production until 2019

[Greg P]

I agree with you Nick!  There was quite the heated exchange a couple of 
months ago between me and Dieter, but the moderators flagged and deleted 
the thread.  I'd be happy to discuss privately if anyone is interested?




On Wednesday, March 22, 2017 at 10:30:52 PM UTC-4, Pramanicin wrote:
>
> I'll echo the perceived lack of service tooI've repaired two blue 
> dream clocks for people as no support was offered..
>
> Pete's Spectrum 18 is a great clock for a very good price.
>
> Nick
>
> On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 7:22 PM, Gene Segal <wave...@earthlink.net 
> > wrote:
>
>> I wonder if the production stopping is in some way related to 
>> questionable customer service for the Blue Dream?
>>
>> Good to know there are other options out there.
>>
>> Greg P 
>> March 22, 2017 at 7:06 PM
>> Buy the PV Electronics Spectrum 18.
>>
>>
>> http://www.pvelectronics.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info=18_id=157
>>
>> Great kit, great support, in stock, direct drive, many case options and 
>> way more features at a much more attractive price point. 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 22, 2017 at 7:14:57 PM UTC-4, Piano Forte wrote:
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>> RE:IN18 Blue Dream out-of-production until 2019
>>
>> I reached out to Dieter and Claus, and Claus advised that the IN18 Blue 
>> Dream (PCB & Kit) is out of production until 2019 (!) - any background on 
>> this development?, its a pity since I was about to order a second BD - I 
>> should have ordered a second one last year.when I first had the 
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[neonixie-l] Re: Some guy offering Rodan CD47 tubes

[Greg P]

I'd love to see Dalibor release something that large but pretty.  The CD47 
is butt ugly.  It's like it was a 30mm tube stretched out and poorly 
proportioned.
$2000-2500 per tube is just insanity, doubt the seller will have many 
takers.  

Let's go Dalibor flood the market with something better and let the market 
set the price.



On Wednesday, February 22, 2017 at 7:42:02 AM UTC-5, Ian Sparkes wrote:
>
> There's some guy called Andre offering a number of CD47 tubes here:
>
>
> https://www.tubeclockdb.com/component/kunena/7-buy-sell-trade/7336-rodan-cd47-gr-414-nixie.html
>
> Still waiting for further information...
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[neonixie-l] Re: Another WiFi NTP device...

[Greg P]

I just got one of these.Very nice device and works as advertised.



On Friday, January 27, 2017 at 2:30:02 PM UTC-5, Pramanicin wrote:
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> Just noted that PV Electronics is selling a NTP adapter for their clocks...
>
>
> http://www.pvelectronics.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info=10_id=188
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Re: [neonixie-l] tubes at electols

[Greg P]

Chuckseems like a good dealWish I was able to get in on it.  



On Friday, January 27, 2017 at 8:45:26 AM UTC-5, Chuck wrote:
>
> We had a large group-buy when Richardson liquidated. 
> I ended up buying 2 dozen NL-840 tubes for around $4.00 each. 
> At that same time there were a few hundred NL-5441A tubes which went 
> for around $5 or $6 each, but I did not get any of those. 
>
> Chuck 
>
>
>
>  Original Message  
> From: gregory...@verizon.net  
> To: neoni...@googlegroups.com  
> Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] tubes at electols 
> Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 17:47:38 -0800 (PST) 
>
> >Hi Chuck, 
> > 
> >Out of curiosity, what Nixie's were you able to purchase from 
> >Richardson 
> >when they liquidated?  Were the prices good? 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >On Thursday, January 26, 2017 at 1:04:25 PM UTC-5, Chuck wrote: 
> >> 
> >> I had a look at Electol's available nixies. 
> >> They have quite a few.  Maybe this is another opportunity 
> >> for a bunch of us to get together and do a group purchase 
> >> such as was done several years ago when Richardson Electronics 
> >> liquidated their nixies. 
> >> 
> >> Chuck 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > Original Message  
> >> >From: jfre...@gmail.com  
> >> >To: neoni...@googlegroups.com  
> >> >Subject: RE: [neonixie-l] tubes at electols 
> >> >Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 02:58:00 -0800 (PST) 
> >> > 
> >> >>Today i got an email from a company we order from at work. 
> >> >> 
> >> >>Its called Electols, and they will clear out their vacuum tube 
> >> >section. I 
> >> >>checked for nixies, and they have some. In the mail it also said 
> >> >that they 
> >> >>will accept offers for large quanities (. 
> >> >>Maybe someone is interested in it 
> >> >> 
> >> >>http://electols.com/shopping/en/4-electron-tubes 
> >> >> 
> >> >>And for nixies: 
> >> >> 
> >> 
> >>>http://electols.com/shopping/en/search?orderby=position=de 
> >s 
> >> >c_query=nixie 
> >> >> 
> >> >> 
> >> >>They also have magic eyes, dekatatrons etc, but you have to 
> >search 
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Re: [neonixie-l] tubes at electols

[Greg P]

Hi Chuck,

Out of curiosity, what Nixie's were you able to purchase from Richardson 
when they liquidated?  Were the prices good?



On Thursday, January 26, 2017 at 1:04:25 PM UTC-5, Chuck wrote:
>
> I had a look at Electol's available nixies. 
> They have quite a few.  Maybe this is another opportunity 
> for a bunch of us to get together and do a group purchase 
> such as was done several years ago when Richardson Electronics 
> liquidated their nixies. 
>
> Chuck 
> > 
> > 
> > Original Message  
> >From: jfre...@gmail.com  
> >To: neoni...@googlegroups.com  
> >Subject: RE: [neonixie-l] tubes at electols 
> >Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 02:58:00 -0800 (PST) 
> > 
> >>Today i got an email from a company we order from at work. 
> >> 
> >>Its called Electols, and they will clear out their vacuum tube 
> >section. I 
> >>checked for nixies, and they have some. In the mail it also said 
> >that they 
> >>will accept offers for large quanities (. 
> >>Maybe someone is interested in it 
> >> 
> >>http://electols.com/shopping/en/4-electron-tubes 
> >> 
> >>And for nixies: 
> >> 
> >>http://electols.com/shopping/en/search?orderby=position=des 
> >c_query=nixie 
> >> 
> >> 
> >>They also have magic eyes, dekatatrons etc, but you have to search 
> >by type. 
> >> 
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[neonixie-l] Re: Clanging Nixies

[Greg P]

All my IN-18 clocks clang.  Must be inherent to that tube.



On Sunday, January 15, 2017 at 5:06:47 PM UTC-5, MichaelB wrote:
>
> You know, I can't isolate which digits are doing it and when. It seems 
> very random which would make sense since I'm sure the the digits cool at 
> varying rates based on their size and shape.
>
> Don't get me wrong, it does not bother me, in fact. I kind of like. It is 
> very subtle.
>
> On Sunday, January 15, 2017 at 1:08:13 PM UTC-8, jf...@my-deja.com wrote:
>>
>> On my B7971 clocks, you can hear the tubes “sing” at the mux rate, and 
>> the “timbre” would change as the digits changed (the mux’ing also generated 
>> at lot of RFI).  I mentioned this many years ago when I said that they 
>> had been running 24/7 for over 30 years (now 40) with zero tube failures. 
>>  One other list member suggested that I might have been hearing the 
>> magnetostriction from the transformers in the SMPS, but I found this 
>> unlikely since I could isolate the sound to the tubes and because I had 
>> used linear power supplies.
>>
>>  
>>
>> BTW, is the “clanging” noticeably louder when multiple digits change 
>> simultaneously?  (On my computer, the clanging in the video is not 
>> synchronized with the changing seconds digits).
>>
>>  
>>
>> You might be able to reduce the noise by increasing the rise time of the 
>> current applied to the tubes.
>>
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[neonixie-l] Re: bottom NE-2s in IN-18 Blue Dream

[Greg P]

Thanks Marcin,

I'll try your suggestions and report back.




On Sunday, January 15, 2017 at 1:52:50 AM UTC-5, marcin wrote:
>
> It seems maybe I experienced the same problem as Greg: When displaying 
> time the bottom NE-2 in colon separator were mostly not working. As far 
> as I recall it they were OK after the slot-machine effect routine, but 
> blank after change from date display to time. Till next slot-machine. 
> As it started happening right after I changed the digit cross fade time 
> to the max (submenu 6) I assumed that there is some soft glitch and 
> didn't give it much attention. Changing the cross fade time to level 3 
> fixed that issue. Maybe this would work for Greg too? 
>
> All the best! 
>Marcin 
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[neonixie-l] Re: For the record

[Greg P]

Michael,

Thank you for the support.  We are attempting to work out a mutually 
beneficial solution that will hopefully put this to bed once and for all.



On Saturday, January 14, 2017 at 5:26:30 PM UTC-5, MichaelB wrote:
>
> Greg Peetros has been a great customer of Badnixie.com for years and 
> although not a EE does have a good working knowledge of the basics of 
> electronics as relates to Nixie clocks. I thought the reaction to Greg’s 
> complaint was uncalled for and should have been handled in a much more 
> controlled manner.  I hope they come up with a solution that works for 
> both of them. My $.02.
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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Posting personal information on this group.

[Greg P]

I agree Genetried to resolve privately numerous times.  Thanks for the 
support.



On Saturday, January 14, 2017 at 12:37:46 PM UTC-5, Gene Segal wrote:
>
> WOW! Such strong and repetitive language only shows that one has a reason 
> to prove something. Good customer service means never putting your 
> customers in a position to feel the need to reach out to the community.  
>
> Greg has been a solid long-term customer of mine. 
>
> Gene Segal
>
> On Jan 14, 2017, at 9:06 AM, Greg P <gregory...@verizon.net > 
> wrote:
>
> Nick,
>
> Thank you!  That was very inappropriate of Dieter to put my PERSONAL 
> information out there.  I have tried numerous times to resolve this 
> privately.
>
>
>
> On Saturday, January 14, 2017 at 12:04:49 PM UTC-5, Nick wrote:
>>
>> It is completely forbidden to post confidential personal information or 
>> to make threats on this group, or indeed anywhere - it's considered 
>> extremely poor netiquette and always has been. If there is a dispute 
>> between customers and suppliers, deal with it offline, not here - the 
>> thread has been locked and the personal information posts deleted.
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Re: [neonixie-l] Posting personal information on this group.

[Greg P]

Dieter,

Is that a threat?  Again, your true colors are showing.



On Saturday, January 14, 2017 at 12:32:17 PM UTC-5, Nocrotec wrote:
>
> Hi! 
> The messages with the topic or content "Nocrotec IN-18 Blue Dream.Poor 
> Customer Service" must all be deleted! 
> I will check that on 2017-01-24. 
> Dieter 
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Nick"  
> To: "neonixie-l"  
> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 6:04 PM 
> Subject: [neonixie-l] Posting personal information on this group. 
>
>
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Re: [neonixie-l] Nocrotec IN-18 Blue Dream.....Best Customer Service -- EVER!

[Greg P]

Dieter,

You're acting like a baby.  Posting my name and address worthless.  I've 
been in this hobby for 10 years built many clocks and have had good 
dealings with many in this hobby.  

My advice to you is grow up and stop acting like child.



On Saturday, January 14, 2017 at 11:39:34 AM UTC-5, Nocrotec wrote:
>
> STP
> ALL TOTAL NONSENSE!!!
> PLEASE IGNORE HIS MESSAGES! DO NOT try to help! He has NO knowledge in 
> electronics at all.
> The glowlamps are definitely defective and I have already answered all his 
> e-mails many times.
>  
>
> Gregory Peetros
>
> 311 Glen Ridge Rd
>
> Havertown, Pennsylvania 19083
>
> United States
>  
> HE IS A POOR LIAR!
> HE IS A POOR LIAR! 
> HE IS A POOR LIAR! 
> HE IS A POOR LIAR! 
> HE IS A POOR LIAR! 
> HE IS A POOR LIAR! 
> HE IS A POOR LIAR! 
> HE IS A POOR LIAR! 
> HE IS A POOR LIAR! 
> HE IS A POOR LIAR! 
> HE IS A POOR LIAR! 
> HE IS A POOR LIAR! 
> HE IS A POOR LIAR! 
> HE IS A POOR LIAR! 
> HE IS A POOR LIAR! 
> HE IS A POOR LIAR! 
> HE IS A POOR LIAR! 
> HE IS A POOR LIAR!
>  
> Our customer Service ist best!
> Greg Petros: I give you 10 days to delete ALL your messages here you 
> know what happens if not...
> Deadline ends: 2017-01-24
> Much luck deleting them - can be very expensive for you!
>  
> Dieter
>  
>  
>
> - Original Message - 
> *From:* Instrument Resources of America  
> *To:* neoni...@googlegroups.com  
> *Sent:* Saturday, January 14, 2017 5:22 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [neonixie-l] Nocrotec IN-18 Blue Dream.Poor Customer 
> Service
>
> I have been a tech going on 60 years now, but am NOT familiar with this 
> clock. I am willing to help as much as I can from here. OBVIOUSLY there is 
> an explanation, and reason for this happening. You just have not unraveled 
> it as yet. To begin with I must ask you a number of questions. Do you have, 
> or have access to a DVM? How many digits are displayed for the TIME? How 
> many for the DATE? How many in 'service mode'? My initial thoughts (GUESS) 
> are this. The H.V. power supply MAY be becoming MARGINAL. Delivers enough 
> voltage to light the colons in service mode and for the date, but for some 
> reason not the time. What I'd like for you to do if possible is monitor the 
> voltage to the colons, while switching the mode from time, to date, to 
> service mode. Record the readings vs mode, and lets see if that tells us 
> anything. You will be measuring H.V. so be very careful. If you do not feel 
> comfortable doing this, have someone versed in H.V. measurement help you. 
> Ira.
>
> On 1/14/2017 7:28 AM, Greg P wrote:
>
>
> Let me start out by saying, I don't like posting negative information as 
> I've found everyone here to be awesome and helpful.  After trying for the 
> better part of a month to get my issue resolved *PRIVATELY, *I feel I 
> need to share with the group.   
>
> Approximately, 4 years ago I ordered and built the Nocrotec IN-18 Blue 
> Dream and it's performed flawlessly until recently.  I noticed the lower 
> NE-2 neons (wired in series) in the colon towers were intermittently 
> lighting when displaying the *TIME* only.  All other functions such as 
> displaying date, and in Service Mode the lower NE-2's work just fine. 
>  Additionally, I checked wiring and all connections etc. and everything is 
> OK.
>
> So I reached out to Dieter no less than 4 times asking for advice and got *NO 
> RESPONSE.  *It wasn't until I emailed Claus Urbach, (the site that sells 
> the IN-18 Blue Dream Kit) that I got a lukewarm excuse filled reply which 
> was to replace the colon towers.  If the NE-2's were bad, why do they work 
> in Service Mode and when displaying date?  
>
> I continued to reach out to Dieter for help, and was ignored.  Dieter 
> keeps using the excuse (thru Claus Urbach) there's something wrong with my 
> email (trust me there's not) and pushes the blame on me.
>
> So here I am, a clock with issues, and no support.  Claus has been great, 
> but told me there's nothing more he can do.  I noticed Dieter has pulled 
> the links on his site and Claus doesn't have the kit listed anymore so who 
> knows what the situation is?
>
> For those of you who were considering purchasing the IN-18 Blue Dream I 
> would highly advise you don't due to poor customer service.  It's a shame, 
> because it's a really nice clock.
>
> Dieter, ball is in your court, I know you read this site, I await your 
> reply.
>
>
>
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Re: [neonixie-l] Nocrotec IN-18 Blue Dream.....Poor Customer Service

[Greg P]

Dieter,

I beg to differ.  I'm not going to argue with you in a public forum.  I 
tried to communicate privately.  There's nothing wrong with my email.

On Saturday, January 14, 2017 at 11:09:55 AM UTC-5, Nocrotec wrote:
>
> Hi to all,
> These are all lies.
> I answered all his e-mails, but he always told my partner that I did not 
> respond.
> Ther is nothing more to say.
> All the best
> Dieter
>  
>
> - Original Message - 
> *From:* Greg P  
> *To:* neonixie-l  
> *Sent:* Saturday, January 14, 2017 4:28 PM
> *Subject:* [neonixie-l] Nocrotec IN-18 Blue Dream.Poor Customer 
> Service
>
>
> Let me start out by saying, I don't like posting negative information as 
> I've found everyone here to be awesome and helpful.  After trying for the 
> better part of a month to get my issue resolved *PRIVATELY, *I feel I 
> need to share with the group.   
>
> Approximately, 4 years ago I ordered and built the Nocrotec IN-18 Blue 
> Dream and it's performed flawlessly until recently.  I noticed the lower 
> NE-2 neons (wired in series) in the colon towers were intermittently 
> lighting when displaying the *TIME* only.  All other functions such as 
> displaying date, and in Service Mode the lower NE-2's work just fine. 
>  Additionally, I checked wiring and all connections etc. and everything is 
> OK.
>
> So I reached out to Dieter no less than 4 times asking for advice and got *NO 
> RESPONSE.  *It wasn't until I emailed Claus Urbach, (the site that sells 
> the IN-18 Blue Dream Kit) that I got a lukewarm excuse filled reply which 
> was to replace the colon towers.  If the NE-2's were bad, why do they work 
> in Service Mode and when displaying date?  
>
> I continued to reach out to Dieter for help, and was ignored.  Dieter 
> keeps using the excuse (thru Claus Urbach) there's something wrong with my 
> email (trust me there's not) and pushes the blame on me.
>
> So here I am, a clock with issues, and no support.  Claus has been great, 
> but told me there's nothing more he can do.  I noticed Dieter has pulled 
> the links on his site and Claus doesn't have the kit listed anymore so who 
> knows what the situation is?
>
> For those of you who were considering purchasing the IN-18 Blue Dream I 
> would highly advise you don't due to poor customer service.  It's a shame, 
> because it's a really nice clock.
>
> Dieter, ball is in your court, I know you read this site, I await your 
> reply.
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [neonixie-l] Nocrotec IN-18 Blue Dream.....Poor Customer Service

[Greg P]

Dieter,

I beg to differ.  I'm not going to argue with you in a public forum.  I 
tried to communicate privately.  There's nothing wrong with my email.


On Saturday, January 14, 2017 at 11:09:55 AM UTC-5, Nocrotec wrote:
>
> Hi to all,
> These are all lies.
> I answered all his e-mails, but he always told my partner that I did not 
> respond.
> Ther is nothing more to say.
> All the best
> Dieter
>  
>
> - Original Message - 
> *From:* Greg P  
> *To:* neonixie-l  
> *Sent:* Saturday, January 14, 2017 4:28 PM
> *Subject:* [neonixie-l] Nocrotec IN-18 Blue Dream.Poor Customer 
> Service
>
>
> Let me start out by saying, I don't like posting negative information as 
> I've found everyone here to be awesome and helpful.  After trying for the 
> better part of a month to get my issue resolved *PRIVATELY, *I feel I 
> need to share with the group.   
>
> Approximately, 4 years ago I ordered and built the Nocrotec IN-18 Blue 
> Dream and it's performed flawlessly until recently.  I noticed the lower 
> NE-2 neons (wired in series) in the colon towers were intermittently 
> lighting when displaying the *TIME* only.  All other functions such as 
> displaying date, and in Service Mode the lower NE-2's work just fine. 
>  Additionally, I checked wiring and all connections etc. and everything is 
> OK.
>
> So I reached out to Dieter no less than 4 times asking for advice and got *NO 
> RESPONSE.  *It wasn't until I emailed Claus Urbach, (the site that sells 
> the IN-18 Blue Dream Kit) that I got a lukewarm excuse filled reply which 
> was to replace the colon towers.  If the NE-2's were bad, why do they work 
> in Service Mode and when displaying date?  
>
> I continued to reach out to Dieter for help, and was ignored.  Dieter 
> keeps using the excuse (thru Claus Urbach) there's something wrong with my 
> email (trust me there's not) and pushes the blame on me.
>
> So here I am, a clock with issues, and no support.  Claus has been great, 
> but told me there's nothing more he can do.  I noticed Dieter has pulled 
> the links on his site and Claus doesn't have the kit listed anymore so who 
> knows what the situation is?
>
> For those of you who were considering purchasing the IN-18 Blue Dream I 
> would highly advise you don't due to poor customer service.  It's a shame, 
> because it's a really nice clock.
>
> Dieter, ball is in your court, I know you read this site, I await your 
> reply.
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [neonixie-l] Nocrotec IN-18 Blue Dream.....Poor Customer Service

[Greg P]

Dan,

I probably will.  The part that aggravates me, is the being ignored then 
making excuses.  If he doesn't want to support the product anymore, just 
tell me.  I'd be OK with it.



On Saturday, January 14, 2017 at 10:37:35 AM UTC-5, bani wrote:
>
> On Sat, 14 Jan 2017, Greg P wrote: 
> > So I reached out to Dieter no less than 4 times asking for advice and 
> got *NO 
> > RESPONSE.  *It wasn't until I emailed Claus Urbach, (the site that sells 
> > the IN-18 Blue Dream Kit) that I got a lukewarm excuse filled reply 
> which 
> > was to replace the colon towers.  If the NE-2's were bad, why do they 
> work 
> > in Service Mode and when displaying date? 
>
> How about humoring them and replacing them to see what happens? What have 
> you got to lose at this point? 
>
> -Dan 
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[neonixie-l] Nocrotec IN-18 Blue Dream.....Poor Customer Service

[Greg P]

Let me start out by saying, I don't like posting negative information as 
I've found everyone here to be awesome and helpful.  After trying for the 
better part of a month to get my issue resolved *PRIVATELY, *I feel I need 
to share with the group.  

Approximately, 4 years ago I ordered and built the Nocrotec IN-18 Blue 
Dream and it's performed flawlessly until recently.  I noticed the lower 
NE-2 neons (wired in series) in the colon towers were intermittently 
lighting when displaying the *TIME* only.  All other functions such as 
displaying date, and in Service Mode the lower NE-2's work just fine. 
 Additionally, I checked wiring and all connections etc. and everything is 
OK.

So I reached out to Dieter no less than 4 times asking for advice and got *NO 
RESPONSE.  *It wasn't until I emailed Claus Urbach, (the site that sells 
the IN-18 Blue Dream Kit) that I got a lukewarm excuse filled reply which 
was to replace the colon towers.  If the NE-2's were bad, why do they work 
in Service Mode and when displaying date?  

I continued to reach out to Dieter for help, and was ignored.  Dieter keeps 
using the excuse (thru Claus Urbach) there's something wrong with my email 
(trust me there's not) and pushes the blame on me.

So here I am, a clock with issues, and no support.  Claus has been great, 
but told me there's nothing more he can do.  I noticed Dieter has pulled 
the links on his site and Claus doesn't have the kit listed anymore so who 
knows what the situation is?

For those of you who were considering purchasing the IN-18 Blue Dream I 
would highly advise you don't due to poor customer service.  It's a shame, 
because it's a really nice clock.

Dieter, ball is in your court, I know you read this site, I await your 
reply.






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Re: [neonixie-l] Four Letter Word partial kit

[Greg P]

Surprised you received them, John. 



On Saturday, December 31, 2016 at 8:51:40 AM UTC-5, jrehwin wrote:
>
> Probably mine. I'm not aware that anyone else ever offered a kit.
>
>
> While it does sound like one of Pete's kits, Ray Weisling also offered 
> kits (I have a couple of his, unassembled).
>
> - John
>
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[neonixie-l] Re: Four Letter Word partial kit

[Greg P]

What kit is it?  Not many out there for the 7971 tubes.



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>
> I've got a "kit" for this (board, with chips) that I never put together.  
> Along with it are the instructions, etc.
>
> Make me a fair offer and it's yours. When I find them, I'll post the big 
> nixies that go with it, as somewhere in my junk I have a box of 8-10 of 
> them 
>
> Thanks
> John
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Re: [neonixie-l] Jeff Thomas Nixie Clock

[Greg P]

John,

It truly is about as basic of a clock as you can get.  Yes, it's almost 
impossible to set the seconds accurately.  I'm sure it's why Jeff came out 
with his NixiSat/NixiChron/GPSII series of clocks which were a big 
improvement in features and functionality.  

I like it mostly because it was Jeff's first design and what started it all 
for his Nixie endeavors.

Greg



On Thursday, October 6, 2016 at 2:37:45 AM UTC-4, Nixcited delighted wrote:
>
> I built one of these as my first clock and it was horrendous. It's almost 
> impossible to set the time with a magnet without overshooting. I found it 
> was better to split the hours and minutes, because otherwise if you 
> overshoot the minutes setting it clocks the hours on. 
>
> I also found the CMOS very sensitive to stray noise and would often find 
> the time had changed spontaneously. 
>
> John S 
>
>
> On 6 Oct 2016, at 02:30, David Forbes wrote: 
>
> > Greg. 
> > 
> > See the bottom of the Harris clock page 
> > 
> > http://www.electricstuff.co.uk/nixclock.html#ready 
> > 
> > to see the seconds display and time-setting option described. 
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Re: [neonixie-l] Jeff Thomas Nixie Clock

[Greg P]

David,

Thanks for pointing me in the direction of the seconds link.  Seems there's 
another reed switch that needs to be installed if the seconds option is 
used, not sure if Jeff added that switch?  I'll have to check.

I suspect no as I really couldn't dial in the seconds when I set the time.



On Wednesday, October 5, 2016 at 9:29:59 PM UTC-4, nixiebunny wrote:
>
> Greg. 
>
> See the bottom of the Harris clock page 
>
> http://www.electricstuff.co.uk/nixclock.html#ready 
>
> to see the seconds display and time-setting option described. 
>
>
> On 10/4/2016 7:16 PM, Greg P wrote: 
> > David, 
> > 
> > Thanks for the info and link.  That will be very helpful. 
> > 
> > Still would like to have an documentation that Jeff may have provided 
> > with the clock.  Also trying to figure out how to set the seconds on 
> > this thing. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Tuesday, October 4, 2016 at 9:38:32 PM UTC-4, nixiebunny wrote: 
> > 
> > Greg, 
> > 
> > This clock is described on Mike Harris' Nixie Clock Gallery page: 
> > 
> > http://www.electricstuff.co.uk/nixiegallery.html 
> > <http://www.electricstuff.co.uk/nixiegallery.html> 
> > 
> > It's a Harris mains-driven Nixie clock board that Jeff butchered to 
> > drive an NL840 display board that he made. 
> > 
> > 
> > On 10/4/2016 6:04 PM, Greg P wrote: 
> > > Any folks out there happen to have an Instruction Manual or BOM 
> > for this 
> > > clock? 
> > > 
> > > http://www.nixie.dk/~jthomas/nixieclock.html 
> > <http://www.nixie.dk/~jthomas/nixieclock.html> 
> > > 
> > > This was the first Nixie clock Jeff made and I was lucky enough to 
> > just 
> > > acquire one.  I do not have a manual for it and figured someone in 
> > the 
> > > group may.  If so, would you be so kind as to share a copy. 
> > > 
> > > Thanks 
> > > 
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Re: [neonixie-l] Jeff Thomas Nixie Clock

[Greg P]

Hi Dixter,

I appreciate the links but the clock I have isn't Jeff's NixiChron... The 
links you provided are for that model, which is a much newer version of the 
clock I'm trying to find documentation on.  The NixiChron is a totally 
different beast.

Thanks

On Wednesday, October 5, 2016 at 4:09:28 PM UTC-4, dixter wrote:
>
> Here is the original web site that Jeff set up and has now been posted for 
> us.  at the bottom you can download the manual... I have listed both 
> for you
>
> the web site is:
>
> http://www.nixie.dk/~jthomas/nixichron.html
>
> and the manual is here:
>
> http://www.nixie.dk/~jthomas/NixiChron.pdf
>
> enjoy
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Re: [neonixie-l] Jeff Thomas Nixie Clock

[Greg P]

David,

Thanks for the info and link.  That will be very helpful.

Still would like to have an documentation that Jeff may have provided with 
the clock.  Also trying to figure out how to set the seconds on this thing. 
 



On Tuesday, October 4, 2016 at 9:38:32 PM UTC-4, nixiebunny wrote:
>
> Greg, 
>
> This clock is described on Mike Harris' Nixie Clock Gallery page: 
>
> http://www.electricstuff.co.uk/nixiegallery.html 
>
> It's a Harris mains-driven Nixie clock board that Jeff butchered to 
> drive an NL840 display board that he made. 
>
>
> On 10/4/2016 6:04 PM, Greg P wrote: 
> > Any folks out there happen to have an Instruction Manual or BOM for this 
> > clock? 
> > 
> > http://www.nixie.dk/~jthomas/nixieclock.html 
> > 
> > This was the first Nixie clock Jeff made and I was lucky enough to just 
> > acquire one.  I do not have a manual for it and figured someone in the 
> > group may.  If so, would you be so kind as to share a copy. 
> > 
> > Thanks 
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[neonixie-l] Jeff Thomas Nixie Clock

[Greg P]

Any folks out there happen to have an Instruction Manual or BOM for this 
clock?

http://www.nixie.dk/~jthomas/nixieclock.html

This was the first Nixie clock Jeff made and I was lucky enough to just 
acquire one.  I do not have a manual for it and figured someone in the 
group may.  If so, would you be so kind as to share a copy.

Thanks


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