Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Master list of oddball symbols?

2020-01-24 Thread martin martin
If anyone needs some very odd Burroughs symbol tubes I have a box of these-
Free!  I have been unable to find the pin-out but once you pick the Anode,
just buzz it out with 180 and be careful...

They are dual-wide and have the "popular symbols"

-martin



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On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 4:01 AM Dieter Waechter  wrote:

> Hello Markus,
> Yes, I have some of the LL-55x in my collection.
> Your "POST" display is cool! I like it.
> Best regards
> Dieter
>
>
> Am 22.01.2020 um 12:32 schrieb mgebha:
> > The LL-55* tubes are great: very nice and reliable. And most of the
> > characters are covered. Note that you can use 0 and 1 from the numeric
> > tube to also cover O and I.
> >
> > For about 3 years now I am using those tubes for a „POST“-sign to
> > display the state of my postbox inside the house. It lights up when new
> > components from china etc. have arrived. So I always know when it is
> > time to check the mailbox. I am very happy with this nixie project, but
> > did not have time yet to document it...
> >
> > Best regards
> > Markus (long term lurker on this group)
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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Master list of oddball symbols?

2020-01-22 Thread Dieter Waechter

Hello Markus,
Yes, I have some of the LL-55x in my collection.
Your "POST" display is cool! I like it.
Best regards
Dieter


Am 22.01.2020 um 12:32 schrieb mgebha:

The LL-55* tubes are great: very nice and reliable. And most of the
characters are covered. Note that you can use 0 and 1 from the numeric
tube to also cover O and I.

For about 3 years now I am using those tubes for a „POST“-sign to
display the state of my postbox inside the house. It lights up when new
components from china etc. have arrived. So I always know when it is
time to check the mailbox. I am very happy with this nixie project, but
did not have time yet to document it...

Best regards
Markus (long term lurker on this group)


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[neonixie-l] Re: Master list of oddball symbols?

2020-01-22 Thread mgebha
The LL-55* tubes are great: very nice and reliable. And most of the 
characters are covered. Note that you can use 0 and 1 from the numeric tube 
to also cover O and I.

For about 3 years now I am using those tubes for a „POST“-sign to display 
the state of my postbox inside the house. It lights up when new components 
from china etc. have arrived. So I always know when it is time to check the 
mailbox. I am very happy with this nixie project, but did not have time yet 
to document it...

Best regards
Markus (long term lurker on this group)

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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Master list of oddball symbols? --> NOW: ZM1243

2020-01-21 Thread Richard Scales
I can only apologise - I just went to my box that has all the symbol tubes 
and curiously, a ZM1243 was sat on top!  - No % - just as you said - very 
sorry to confuse.

Richard


On Tuesday, 21 January 2020 20:49:38 UTC, Nocrotec wrote:
>
> Hi Richard, 
> are you sure your ZM1243 has a "%" symbol? 
> Best regards 
> Dieter 
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: Richard Scales 
> To: neonixie-l 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 3:08 PM 
> Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Master list of oddball symbols? --> NOW: LL- 
> and LC-tubes 
>
>
> Here is some information on some symbol tubes that I have: 
>
>
> ZM1001R Side view Nixie, 14mm symbol height +, –, ~, X, Y, Z 
> ZM1021 by Mullard, Top view Nixie, 15.5mm symbol height A, V, Ω, +, –, ~, 
> % 
> ZM1023 by Valvo, Top view Nixie, 15.5mm symbol height A, V, Ω, +, –, ~, % 
> ZM1024 by RTC, Top view Nixie, 15.5mm symbol height c/s, Kc/s, Mc/s, us, 
> ms, 
> ns, s 
> ZM1033 by Dario, Side view Nixie, 15mm symbol height +, –, ~ 
> ZM1263 by RTC, Side view Nixie, 10mm symbol height +, -, ~, (spiral) 
> Z5610M Top view Nixie, 15.5mm symbol height A, V, Ω, +, –, ~, %, W 
> ZM1081 Side view nixie, 10.5mm symbol height +, –, ~ 
> ZM1243 Side view Nixie, 16mm symbol height +, -, %, Ω, ~ 
>
>

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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Master list of oddball symbols? --> NOW: ZM1243

2020-01-21 Thread Dieter Waechter

Hi Richard,
are you sure your ZM1243 has a "%" symbol?
Best regards
Dieter

- Original Message - 
From: Richard Scales

To: neonixie-l
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 3:08 PM
Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Master list of oddball symbols? --> NOW: LL- 
and LC-tubes



Here is some information on some symbol tubes that I have:


ZM1001R Side view Nixie, 14mm symbol height +, –, ~, X, Y, Z
ZM1021 by Mullard, Top view Nixie, 15.5mm symbol height A, V, Ω, +, –, ~, %
ZM1023 by Valvo, Top view Nixie, 15.5mm symbol height A, V, Ω, +, –, ~, %
ZM1024 by RTC, Top view Nixie, 15.5mm symbol height c/s, Kc/s, Mc/s, us, ms, 
ns, s

ZM1033 by Dario, Side view Nixie, 15mm symbol height +, –, ~
ZM1263 by RTC, Side view Nixie, 10mm symbol height +, -, ~, (spiral)
Z5610M Top view Nixie, 15.5mm symbol height A, V, Ω, +, –, ~, %, W
ZM1081 Side view nixie, 10.5mm symbol height +, –, ~
ZM1243 Side view Nixie, 16mm symbol height +, -, %, Ω, ~ 


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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Master list of oddball symbols? --> NOW: LL- and LC-tubes

2020-01-21 Thread Richard Scales
Here is some information on some symbol tubes that I have:

ZM1001R Side view Nixie, 14mm symbol height +, –, ~, X, Y, Z
ZM1021 by Mullard, Top view Nixie, 15.5mm symbol height A, V, Ω, +, –, ~, %
ZM1023 by Valvo, Top view Nixie, 15.5mm symbol height A, V, Ω, +, –, ~, %
ZM1024 by RTC, Top view Nixie, 15.5mm symbol height c/s, Kc/s, Mc/s, us, 
ms, ns, s
ZM1033 by Dario, Side view Nixie, 15mm symbol height +, –, ~
ZM1263 by RTC, Side view Nixie, 10mm symbol height +, -, ~, (spiral)
Z5610M Top view Nixie, 15.5mm symbol height A, V, Ω, +, –, ~, %, W
ZM1081 Side view nixie, 10.5mm symbol height +, –, ~
ZM1243 Side view Nixie, 16mm symbol height +, -, %, Ω, ~

... just in case it helps.

Richard


On Tuesday, 21 January 2020 04:38:34 UTC, Nocrotec wrote:
>
> Thank you Aleksander,
> I thought this might be a second data page.
> Update of the List:
>  
> *Type* *Sort* *Brand(s) * *Base & Pinout* *Displayed symbols* 
> LC-1 NIX-E PIE B13B 0-9, upper dot, lower dot 
> LC-2 NIX-E PIE, Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B 0-9, upper dot, PR 
> LC-7 NIX-S Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13D 0-9, PL, PR 
> LC-511 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B 0-9, dot (middle left) 
> LC-511F NIX-E   B13B numerals 
> LC-513 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B 0-9, PL 
> LC-513A NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B 0-9 
> LC-516 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) U11 0-9 
> LC-531 NIX-S Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13D 0-9, PL, PR 
> LC-531F NIX-S Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13D 0-9, PL, PR 
> LC-541 NIX-S   B9A 0-9 
> LC-541F NIX-S   B9A 0-9 
> LC-631 (Version 01) NIX-S Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B 0-9 
> LC-631 (Version 02) NIX-S Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B 0-9 
> LC-631F NIX-S Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B 0-9 
> LL-1 NIX-E PIE B13B A, V, Ω, +, -, %, k, m, µ, p, F, H, M, W 
> LL-551 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B A, V, Ω, +, -, ~, % 
> LL-551F NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B A, V, Ω, +, -, ~, % 
> LL-552 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B m, M, p, μ, k, n 
> LL-553 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B F, H, Hz, S, W, z 
> LL-555 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B Ł, C, T, R, Y, N, B 
> LL-556 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B G, M, P, S, U, Δ 
> LL-557 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B E, J, A, V, F, H 
> LL-558 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B D, L, K, W, X, Z, φ 
> LL-558B NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B symbols 
> LL-561 NIX-S(I) Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13D +, -, Δ or +, -, ~ 
> LL-661 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B +, -, ~ 
> LL-661F NIX-E   B13B +, -, ~
>  
> *Additions welcome. Pictures welcome. Datasheets welcome. All data missing 
> in the chart very welcome.*
> *Offers for all welcome, too!*
> Best regards
> Dieter
>  
>  
>  
> - Original Message ----- 
>
> *From:* Aleksander Zawada  
> *To:* Dieter Waechter  
> *Sent:* Monday, January 20, 2020 11:27 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Master list of oddball symbols? --> NOW: 
> LL- and LC-tubes
>
> http://www.pwl.mikrokontroler.pl/lampy_elektronowe/ll1/ll1_pie_e.htm
>
> This is the correct link. 
> W dniu 20.01.2020 o 22:47, Dieter Waechter pisze:
>
> Thank you Aleksander for the additions.
> Do you know where that page is:
> http://www.pwl.mikrokontroler.pl/lampy_elektronowe/ll1/l11_pie_e.htm
> Best regards
> Dieter
>  
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> *From:* Aleksander Zawada  
> *To:* neoni...@googlegroups.com  ; Dieter Waechter 
>  
> *Sent:* Monday, January 20, 2020 9:59 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Master list of oddball symbols? --> NOW: 
> LL- and LC-tubes
>
> http://www.pwl.mikrokontroler.pl/lampy_elektronowe/ll1/ll1_pie_e.htm
>
> http://www.pwl.mikrokontroler.pl/lampy_elektronowe/lc2/lc2_pie_e.htm
> W dniu 20.01.2020 o 20:41, Dieter Waechter pisze:
>
> HI,
> This is right, but note that the RFT Bulletin tells "+, -, ~".
> Especially at the LL- and LC-tubes there were different symbols and also 
> pinouts with the same type number.
>  
> This is all I know at the moment:
>  
> *Type* *Sort* *Brand(s) * *Base* *Displayed symbols* 
> LC-1 NIX-E PIE B13B 0-9 
> LC-2 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B numerals 
> LC-7 NIX-S Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13D 0-9, PL, PR 
> LC-511 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B 0-9, dot (middle left) 
> LC-511F NIX-E   B13B numerals 
> LC-513 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B 0-9, PL 
> LC-513A NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B 0-9 
> LC-516 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) U11 0-9 
> LC-531 NIX-S Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13D 0-9, PL, PR 
> LC-531F NIX-S Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13D 0-9, PL, PR 
> LC-541 NIX-S   B9A 0-9 
> LC-541F NIX-S   B9A 0-9 
> LC-631 (Version 01) NIX-S Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B 0-9 
> LC-631 (Version 02) NIX-S Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B 0-9 
> LC-631F NIX-S Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B 0-9 
> LL-1 NIX-E   B13B symbols 
> LL-551 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Po

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Master list of oddball symbols? --> NOW: LL- and LC-tubes

2020-01-20 Thread Dieter Waechter
Thank you Aleksander,
I thought this might be a second data page.
Update of the List:

  Type Sort Brand(s)  Base & Pinout Displayed symbols 
  LC-1 NIX-E PIE B13B 0-9, upper dot, lower dot 
  LC-2 NIX-E PIE, Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B 0-9, upper dot, PR 
  LC-7 NIX-S Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13D 0-9, PL, PR 
  LC-511 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B 0-9, dot (middle left) 
  LC-511F NIX-E   B13B numerals 
  LC-513 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B 0-9, PL 
  LC-513A NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B 0-9 
  LC-516 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) U11 0-9 
  LC-531 NIX-S Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13D 0-9, PL, PR 
  LC-531F NIX-S Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13D 0-9, PL, PR 
  LC-541 NIX-S   B9A 0-9 
  LC-541F NIX-S   B9A 0-9 
  LC-631 (Version 01) NIX-S Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B 0-9 
  LC-631 (Version 02) NIX-S Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B 0-9 
  LC-631F NIX-S Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B 0-9 
  LL-1 NIX-E PIE B13B A, V, Ω, +, -, %, k, m, µ, p, F, H, M, W 
  LL-551 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B A, V, Ω, +, -, ~, % 
  LL-551F NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B A, V, Ω, +, -, ~, % 
  LL-552 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B m, M, p, μ, k, n 
  LL-553 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B F, H, Hz, S, W, z 
  LL-555 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B Ł, C, T, R, Y, N, B 
  LL-556 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B G, M, P, S, U, Δ 
  LL-557 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B E, J, A, V, F, H 
  LL-558 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B D, L, K, W, X, Z, φ 
  LL-558B NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B symbols 
  LL-561 NIX-S(I) Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13D +, -, Δ or +, -, ~ 
  LL-661 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B +, -, ~ 
  LL-661F NIX-E   B13B +, -, ~ 


Additions welcome. Pictures welcome. Datasheets welcome. All data missing in 
the chart very welcome.
Offers for all welcome, too!
Best regards
Dieter



- Original Message - 
  From: Aleksander Zawada 
  To: Dieter Waechter 
  Sent: Monday, January 20, 2020 11:27 PM
  Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Master list of oddball symbols? --> NOW: LL- 
and LC-tubes


  http://www.pwl.mikrokontroler.pl/lampy_elektronowe/ll1/ll1_pie_e.htm

  This is the correct link. 


  W dniu 20.01.2020 o 22:47, Dieter Waechter pisze:

Thank you Aleksander for the additions.
Do you know where that page is:
http://www.pwl.mikrokontroler.pl/lampy_elektronowe/ll1/l11_pie_e.htm
Best regards
Dieter

  - Original Message - 
  From: Aleksander Zawada 
  To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com ; Dieter Waechter 
  Sent: Monday, January 20, 2020 9:59 PM
  Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Master list of oddball symbols? --> NOW: 
LL- and LC-tubes


  http://www.pwl.mikrokontroler.pl/lampy_elektronowe/ll1/ll1_pie_e.htm

  http://www.pwl.mikrokontroler.pl/lampy_elektronowe/lc2/lc2_pie_e.htm


  W dniu 20.01.2020 o 20:41, Dieter Waechter pisze:

HI,
This is right, but note that the RFT Bulletin tells "+, -, ~".
Especially at the LL- and LC-tubes there were different symbols and 
also pinouts with the same type number.

This is all I know at the moment:

  Type Sort Brand(s)  Base Displayed symbols 
  LC-1 NIX-E PIE B13B 0-9 
  LC-2 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B numerals 
  LC-7 NIX-S Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13D 0-9, PL, PR 
  LC-511 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B 0-9, dot (middle left) 
  LC-511F NIX-E   B13B numerals 
  LC-513 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B 0-9, PL 
  LC-513A NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B 0-9 
  LC-516 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) U11 0-9 
  LC-531 NIX-S Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13D 0-9, PL, PR 
  LC-531F NIX-S Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13D 0-9, PL, PR 
  LC-541 NIX-S   B9A 0-9 
  LC-541F NIX-S   B9A 0-9 
  LC-631 (Version 01) NIX-S Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B 0-9 
  LC-631 (Version 02) NIX-S Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B 0-9 
  LC-631F NIX-S Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B 0-9 
  LL-1 NIX-E   B13B symbols 
  LL-551 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B A, V, Ω, +, -, ~, % 
  LL-551F NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B A, V, Ω, +, -, ~, % 
  LL-552 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B m, M, p, μ, k, n 
  LL-553 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B F, H, Hz, S, W, z 
  LL-555 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B Ł, C, T, R, Y, N, B 
  LL-556 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B G, M, P, S, U, Δ 
  LL-557 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B E, J, A, V, F, H 
  LL-558 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B D, L, K, W, X, Z, φ 
  LL-558B NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B symbols 
  LL-561 NIX-S(I) Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13D +, -, Δ or +, -, ~ 
  LL-661 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B +, -, ~ 
   

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Master list of oddball symbols? --> NOW: LL- and LC-tubes

2020-01-20 Thread Dieter Waechter
Thank you Aleksander for the additions.
Do you know where that page is:
http://www.pwl.mikrokontroler.pl/lampy_elektronowe/ll1/l11_pie_e.htm
Best regards
Dieter

  - Original Message - 
  From: Aleksander Zawada 
  To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com ; Dieter Waechter 
  Sent: Monday, January 20, 2020 9:59 PM
  Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Master list of oddball symbols? --> NOW: LL- 
and LC-tubes


  http://www.pwl.mikrokontroler.pl/lampy_elektronowe/ll1/ll1_pie_e.htm

  http://www.pwl.mikrokontroler.pl/lampy_elektronowe/lc2/lc2_pie_e.htm


  W dniu 20.01.2020 o 20:41, Dieter Waechter pisze:

HI,
This is right, but note that the RFT Bulletin tells "+, -, ~".
Especially at the LL- and LC-tubes there were different symbols and also 
pinouts with the same type number.

This is all I know at the moment:

  Type Sort Brand(s)  Base Displayed symbols 
  LC-1 NIX-E PIE B13B 0-9 
  LC-2 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B numerals 
  LC-7 NIX-S Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13D 0-9, PL, PR 
  LC-511 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B 0-9, dot (middle left) 
  LC-511F NIX-E   B13B numerals 
  LC-513 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B 0-9, PL 
  LC-513A NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B 0-9 
  LC-516 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) U11 0-9 
  LC-531 NIX-S Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13D 0-9, PL, PR 
  LC-531F NIX-S Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13D 0-9, PL, PR 
  LC-541 NIX-S   B9A 0-9 
  LC-541F NIX-S   B9A 0-9 
  LC-631 (Version 01) NIX-S Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B 0-9 
  LC-631 (Version 02) NIX-S Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B 0-9 
  LC-631F NIX-S Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B 0-9 
  LL-1 NIX-E   B13B symbols 
  LL-551 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B A, V, Ω, +, -, ~, % 
  LL-551F NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B A, V, Ω, +, -, ~, % 
  LL-552 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B m, M, p, μ, k, n 
  LL-553 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B F, H, Hz, S, W, z 
  LL-555 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B Ł, C, T, R, Y, N, B 
  LL-556 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B G, M, P, S, U, Δ 
  LL-557 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B E, J, A, V, F, H 
  LL-558 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B D, L, K, W, X, Z, φ 
  LL-558B NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B symbols 
  LL-561 NIX-S(I) Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13D +, -, Δ or +, -, ~ 
  LL-661 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B +, -, ~ 
  LL-661F NIX-E   B13B +, -, ~ 


Additions welcome. Pictures welcome. Datasheets welcome. All data missing 
in the chart very welcome.
Offers for all welcome, too!
Best regards
Dieter



  - Original Message - 
  From: Tyler Bourne 
  To: neonixie-l 
  Sent: Monday, January 20, 2020 8:24 PM
      Subject: [neonixie-l] Re: Master list of oddball symbols?


  There is the Dolam LL-561, with +, -, and a triangle.



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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Master list of oddball symbols? --> NOW: LL- and LC-tubes

2020-01-20 Thread Aleksander Zawada

http://www.pwl.mikrokontroler.pl/lampy_elektronowe/ll1/ll1_pie_e.htm

http://www.pwl.mikrokontroler.pl/lampy_elektronowe/lc2/lc2_pie_e.htm

W dniu 20.01.2020 o 20:41, Dieter Waechter pisze:

HI,
This is right, but note that the RFT Bulletin tells "+, -, ~".
Especially at the LL- and LC-tubes there were different symbols and 
also pinouts with the same type number.

This is all I know at the moment:
*Type*  *Sort*  *Brand(s) * *Base*  *Displayed symbols*
LC-1NIX-E   PIE B13B0-9
LC-2NIX-E   Unitra Dolam (Poland)   B13Bnumerals
LC-7NIX-S   Unitra Dolam (Poland)   B13D0-9, PL, PR
LC-511  NIX-E   Unitra Dolam (Poland)   B13B0-9, dot (middle left)
LC-511F NIX-E   B13Bnumerals
LC-513  NIX-E   Unitra Dolam (Poland)   B13B0-9, PL
LC-513A NIX-E   Unitra Dolam (Poland)   B13B0-9
LC-516  NIX-E   Unitra Dolam (Poland)   U11 0-9
LC-531  NIX-S   Unitra Dolam (Poland)   B13D0-9, PL, PR
LC-531F NIX-S   Unitra Dolam (Poland)   B13D0-9, PL, PR
LC-541  NIX-S   B9A 0-9
LC-541F NIX-S   B9A 0-9
LC-631 (Version 01) NIX-S   Unitra Dolam (Poland)   B13B0-9
LC-631 (Version 02) NIX-S   Unitra Dolam (Poland)   B13B0-9
LC-631F NIX-S   Unitra Dolam (Poland)   B13B0-9
LL-1NIX-E   B13Bsymbols
LL-551  NIX-E   Unitra Dolam (Poland)   B13BA, V, Ω, +, -, ~, %
LL-551F NIX-E   Unitra Dolam (Poland)   B13BA, V, Ω, +, -, ~, %
LL-552  NIX-E   Unitra Dolam (Poland)   B13Bm, M, p, μ, k, n
LL-553  NIX-E   Unitra Dolam (Poland)   B13BF, H, Hz, S, W, z
LL-555  NIX-E   Unitra Dolam (Poland)   B13BŁ, C, T, R, Y, N, B
LL-556  NIX-E   Unitra Dolam (Poland)   B13BG, M, P, S, U, Δ
LL-557  NIX-E   Unitra Dolam (Poland)   B13BE, J, A, V, F, H
LL-558  NIX-E   Unitra Dolam (Poland)   B13BD, L, K, W, X, Z, φ
LL-558B NIX-E   Unitra Dolam (Poland)   B13Bsymbols
LL-561  NIX-S(I)Unitra Dolam (Poland)   B13D+, -, Δ or +, -, ~
LL-661  NIX-E   Unitra Dolam (Poland)   B13B+, -, ~
LL-661F NIX-E   B13B+, -, ~

*Additions welcome. Pictures welcome. Datasheets welcome. All data 
missing in the chart very welcome.*

*Offers for all welcome, too!*
Best regards
Dieter

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    *Subject:* [neonixie-l] Re: Master list of oddball symbols?

There is the Dolam LL-561, with +, -, and a triangle.


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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Master list of oddball symbols? --> NOW: LL- and LC-tubes

2020-01-20 Thread Dieter Waechter
HI,
This is right, but note that the RFT Bulletin tells "+, -, ~".
Especially at the LL- and LC-tubes there were different symbols and also 
pinouts with the same type number.

This is all I know at the moment:

  Type Sort Brand(s)  Base Displayed symbols 
  LC-1 NIX-E PIE B13B 0-9 
  LC-2 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B numerals 
  LC-7 NIX-S Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13D 0-9, PL, PR 
  LC-511 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B 0-9, dot (middle left) 
  LC-511F NIX-E   B13B numerals 
  LC-513 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B 0-9, PL 
  LC-513A NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B 0-9 
  LC-516 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) U11 0-9 
  LC-531 NIX-S Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13D 0-9, PL, PR 
  LC-531F NIX-S Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13D 0-9, PL, PR 
  LC-541 NIX-S   B9A 0-9 
  LC-541F NIX-S   B9A 0-9 
  LC-631 (Version 01) NIX-S Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B 0-9 
  LC-631 (Version 02) NIX-S Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B 0-9 
  LC-631F NIX-S Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B 0-9 
  LL-1 NIX-E   B13B symbols 
  LL-551 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B A, V, Ω, +, -, ~, % 
  LL-551F NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B A, V, Ω, +, -, ~, % 
  LL-552 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B m, M, p, μ, k, n 
  LL-553 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B F, H, Hz, S, W, z 
  LL-555 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B Ł, C, T, R, Y, N, B 
  LL-556 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B G, M, P, S, U, Δ 
  LL-557 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B E, J, A, V, F, H 
  LL-558 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B D, L, K, W, X, Z, φ 
  LL-558B NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B symbols 
  LL-561 NIX-S(I) Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13D +, -, Δ or +, -, ~ 
  LL-661 NIX-E Unitra Dolam (Poland) B13B +, -, ~ 
  LL-661F NIX-E   B13B +, -, ~ 


Additions welcome. Pictures welcome. Datasheets welcome. All data missing in 
the chart very welcome.
Offers for all welcome, too!
Best regards
Dieter



  - Original Message - 
  From: Tyler Bourne 
  To: neonixie-l 
  Sent: Monday, January 20, 2020 8:24 PM
  Subject: [neonixie-l] Re: Master list of oddball symbols?


  There is the Dolam LL-561, with +, -, and a triangle.



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[neonixie-l] Re: Master list of oddball symbols?

2020-01-20 Thread Tyler Bourne
There is the Dolam LL-561, with +, -, and a triangle.


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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Master list of oddball symbols?

2020-01-17 Thread Bill Notfaded
I can't wait for the dekatron clock!  Really think it's going to be unique
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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Master list of oddball symbols?

2020-01-17 Thread Nicholas Stock
I got plenty of these for sale if anyone needs one:)

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[neonixie-l] Re: Master list of oddball symbols?

2020-01-15 Thread Tomasz Kowalczyk


W dniu wtorek, 14 stycznia 2020 22:15:16 UTC+1 użytkownik Terry Bowman 
napisał:
>
>
> Then there is the famous "spiral" in tubes like the ITT58GSST. That one 
> has the symbols "+, −, ~, (spiral)" so obviously it was a prefix tube for a 
> voltmeter and/or ammeter but what does the spiral indicate? I've been told 
> that it was "overload" which seems logical enough. A friend of mine says 
> that he saw the spiral used in something like a gas chromatograph to 
> indicate that the oven was still warming up so who knows? Perhaps it was 
> used for multiple applications.
>
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>
>From what I've read, the spiral symbol could be used also as an indicator 
that the measurement is not complete - for example, for long sampling 
periods of voltage measurements. It's pretty much the same as hourglass 
next to the mouse icon on Windows PC - indicates, that work is going on.
I've removed some ZM1263s from boards, which looked like they used in some 
measurement device. Unfortunately, I didn't receive any info about what 
kind of devices were they - only the nixie PCBs with ZM1263s and 
ZM1175/ZM1177s. So they definitely were used in commercial devices, but 
their purpose still remain a mystery.

When it comes to uncommon symbols - there is a line of Polish Dolam nixies 
with almost whole alphabet. Strangely, some letters can be found in more 
than one tube, and some aren't present in any. Symbols are LL-551 up to 
LL-558. No other company produced as many nixies that could be used to 
display static text.

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