[neonixie-l] Re: Material for cathode?

2011-02-28 Thread threeneurons
> ... I do seem to recall that nixies generally have something > coated on the back of the digits to suppress the discharge there, > to concentrate it on the fronts. NO-O-O-O ! Don't coat them cathodes at all, so the glow is even all around ! Use a mesh anode, both front and back, so you can see

[neonixie-l] Re: Material for cathode?

2011-02-28 Thread Dieter Waechter
another interesting link: http://www.worldlingo.com/ma/enwiki/en/Penning_mixture Dieter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email

[neonixie-l] Re: Material for cathode? - Can anyone recall? - SOLVED

2011-02-28 Thread Dieter Waechter
Thanks Nick! That's it! Cold Cathode Glow Discharge Tubes Author: G F Weston June 1968 ISBN-13: 9780592027753 ISBN-10: 0592027759 Pages: 374 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Weston_%28physicist%29 And: there was another article: "The Effect of Current and Pressure on the Impedance of Cold Ca

[neonixie-l] Re: Material for cathode? - Can anyone recall?

2011-02-28 Thread Nick
On Feb 28, 6:46 pm, "Dieter Waechter" wrote: > Hello Marcin, > yesm I know Alek of course. > But the document I had was a US book. (Or maybe an English one?) > Dieter This does sound like the Weston book. Nick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neoni

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Material for cathode? - Can anyone recall?

2011-02-28 Thread Dieter Waechter
Hello Marcin, yesm I know Alek of course. But the document I had was a US book. (Or maybe an English one?) Dieter - Original Message - From: "marcin" To: "neonixie-l" Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 7:02 PM Subject: [neonixie-l] Re: Material for cathode?

[neonixie-l] Re: Material for cathode? - Can anyone recall?

2011-02-28 Thread marcin
Somebody already mentioned Alek http://tubedevices.com/alek/pwl/pwl_e.htm Somewhere from his vast web archives I dag out a paper describing the first polish nixie LC-1. Can't recall the exact link though. And, this article is in polish ;) Shortly: material used for the cathodes was steel, anode was

[neonixie-l] Re: Material for cathode? - Can anyone recall?

2011-02-28 Thread Dieter Waechter
There was a discussion some years ago at the old NEONIXIE-L. There was a book recommended but I forgot the name. The book contained data about the gas, pressures, and so on. I had a copy as pdf, but can't find it in my archive Can anyone recall the name? DIETER http://www.nocrotec.com/ -- You

[neonixie-l] Re: Material for cathode?

2011-02-28 Thread Dirk Sleutjes
Hi, It is totally not nixie but still one of my oldtime favourites: http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http://paillard.claude.free.fr/&langpair=fr%257Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF-8 He's french... (but with google translate the site is readable) and he makes his own vacuum tubes like triodes. He made his

[neonixie-l] Re: Material for cathode?

2011-02-28 Thread Sixsmith
Wow, lots of good advice. Thanks! It sounds like I should start by testing our shop's vacuum pressure capabilities on existing nixies and if all goes well then it is possible to use stainless steel for cathodes. I'll need to experiment with the placement of the cathode and spacing. And then I wil

[neonixie-l] Re: Material for cathode?

2011-02-28 Thread Nick
On Feb 28, 6:32 am, Nick wrote: > On Feb 28, 12:14 am, Sixsmith wrote: > > > Hi, > > We're experimenting with making our own nixie tubes in our shop. ... > > Weston (pp334) says that nickel is ideal but not strong enough, and ... I should have mentioned that a patent search would be an excellent

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Material for cathode?

2011-02-27 Thread Adam Jacobs
I think that if I was going to go down the road of making homemade Nixies, I'd contact the guy that wrote this: http://tubedevices.com/alek/pwl/lc1d/homemade_nixie_tubes.pdf -Adam On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 10:32 PM, Nick wrote: > On Feb 28, 12:14 am, Sixsmith wrote: > > Hi, > > We're experiment

[neonixie-l] Re: Material for cathode?

2011-02-27 Thread Nick
On Feb 28, 12:14 am, Sixsmith wrote: > Hi, > We're experimenting with making our own nixie tubes in our shop. I was > planning on making the cathode out of stainless steel, but was > wondering if anyone had any advice about the best material to use. > Would it be better to try to find something ra

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Material for cathode?

2011-02-27 Thread Unmitigated Fool
I used to do neon signs so I understand your problem of getting a low enough pressure. For the best vacuum you need a backing pump and a turbo pump, sometimes called a molecular transfer pump. Neither are cheep. Of course neon tubes use a MUCH higher voltage. On 2/27/2011 8:36 PM, Stuckey w

[neonixie-l] Re: Material for cathode?

2011-02-27 Thread will
LOL. I seem to remember nickel from somewhere, but I'm probably wrong. Isn't it in a datasheet somewhere? Maybe some manufacturer has some old internal memos/datasheets they wouldn't mind giving up nowadays if you emailed them. On Feb 27, 8:52 pm, David Forbes wrote: > On 2/27/11 5:14 PM, Sixsmi

[neonixie-l] Re: Material for cathode?

2011-02-27 Thread Stuckey
As far as the best material goes, I don't know if I could answer that one. I started experimenting by modifying existing Nixie tubes. I took a few cheap Russian tubes and broke off the seal. I tried replacing the neon penning mixture with Argon to change the color. The biggest challenge I faced