[neonixie-l] Re: Custom text discharge tube

2011-03-11 Thread Nick

On 10 Mar, 22:08, Imajeenyus lind...@imajeenyus.com wrote:
 Hi folks,

 Just joined the group, after meaning to for ages! I caught the Nixie bug
 last year
...

Hi Lindsay,

Welcome - and a very nice site you have too. I was wondering if you'd
seen
http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=ensl=fru=http://paillard.claude.free.fr/ei=Oel5TZezKpGKhQe98rjeBgsa=Xoi=translatect=resultresnum=1ved=0CB4Q7gEwAAprev=/search%3Fq%3DF2FO%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26prmd%3Divns
?

Main interesting bit there is the making of his own triode from
scratch, and specifically the degassing etc. which is necessary for a
quality tube - obviously he doesn't Hg-dope his tubes (not necessary
for him) but for any long-life discharge tube, some sort of anti-
sputtering is necessary.

Great work!

Nick

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[neonixie-l] Re: Custom text discharge tube

2011-03-11 Thread Imajeenyus
Thanks!

Not entirely sure about the lifetime - I suspect it's something to do
with the large cathode area I've
got (as a result of the way I made the cathode form steel sheet rather
than wire). I guess the lifetime
could be improved a lot by using neon (smaller atom mass, hence less
sputtering) but I'd need
to get hold of some first ;-)

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[neonixie-l] Re: Custom text discharge tube

2011-03-11 Thread Imajeenyus
Hi,

Thanks for all the comments!

Will -

Not entirely sure about the lifetime - I suspect it's something to do
with the large cathode area I've got (as a result of the way I made
the cathode form steel sheet rather than wire). I guess the lifetime
could be improved a lot by using neon (smaller atom mass, hence less
sputtering) but I'd need to get hold of some first ;-)

Marcin/John - I've sent you a pm regarding the tubes

Yes, I saw Claude Paillard's video a while back and it was truly
inspiring! The induction heating bakeout is probably essential for
high-vacuum tubes (triodes etc) - I don't know about higher-pressure
tubes like cold cathode devices. I was hoping that it wouldn't be
so critical.

That's a good point about the gas pressure - bit counter intuitive!
You'd think that lower pressure would be better because you've
got fewer atoms hitting the surface, but of course they'd be striking
at higher energies. A nixie book did say that it is best to use the
highest pressure possible, to avoid sputtering (it also gives you a
good reservoir of gas). Trouble is, you often need to lower the
pressure
in order to get a uniform cathode glow at a reasonable tube current.

Mercury seems to have a huge impact on lifetime as well - Bylander's
book Electronic Displays has a graph of lifetime with and without
mercury, and mercury addition is something like 20 times better. But
I'd rather not be messing around with mercury!

Cheers,

Lindsay

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[neonixie-l] Re: Custom text discharge tube

2011-03-11 Thread Imajeenyus
Hi John,

Thanks for the interest in a tube!

It takes me a couple of days to make it and test it in operation, so
I'd be looking
at around £200, which would include postage to anywhere.

If you're interested, let me know what letters you'd like displayed,
and I can send
you back a design of what the cathode would look like, to see if it's
ok.

Thanks again!

Lindsay

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[neonixie-l] Re: Custom text discharge tube

2011-03-10 Thread will
That's pretty cool! What accounts for the 150 hour lifetime?

On Mar 10, 4:08 pm, Imajeenyus lind...@imajeenyus.com wrote:
 Hi folks,

 Just joined the group, after meaning to for ages! I caught the Nixie bug
 last year
 and have been fascinated with them ever since, although I'm more interested
 in the actual construction of the tubes (also love Panaplex displays). The
 only thing
 I've actually built* with* a Nixie was a little 0-9 counter 
 (linkhttp://www.imajeenyus.com/electronics/20100607_nixie/index.shtml)
 ;-)

 Since then, I've done a couple of Panaplex-like displays 
 (firsthttp://www.imajeenyus.com/vacuum/20100814_panaplex/index.shtml,
 secondhttp://www.imajeenyus.com/vacuum/20101115_second_panaplex/index.shtml
 ),
 and more recently a text discharge 
 tubehttp://www.imajeenyus.com/vacuum/20110310_text_discharge_tube/index.s...,
 which I though you might be interested
 in. I'm trying to find out if there's any interest in a custom tube like
 this with
 your name or whatever spelled out in it. They're argon-filled and have a
 lifetime of about 150 hours. If anyone would like getting a custom one
 made, just drop me an email.

 All the best,

 Lindsay

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