Re: [neonixie-l] Constant current source design

2017-04-20 Thread Nick Sargeant
Oh, I could tell you some stories. When we did some early ships of advanced workstations to universities, I had a bunch of complaints from Cambridge University that their optical mice were failing randomly. I phoned the lab tec to find out what was going on .. these mice used two colours of

Re: [neonixie-l] Constant current source design

2017-04-20 Thread 'Terry S' via neonixie-l
There is a very similar story about an early super computer developed at Control Data in the 70's. An AC outlet on the side of the machine was intended for engineering for debug instruments. But nightly, when the cleaning lady plugged in her vacuum cleaner, the machine would crash. It took

Re: [neonixie-l] Constant current source design

2017-04-20 Thread 'M W' via neonixie-l
That story reminds me of one from work. Not Nixie-related but sorta funny :) Years ago, work had an IBM System/360 ot /370 of some age; It started having faults at random times, so they called in the tech. He opened the system covers, tied in all the diagnostics tools - logic analyzer, etc, but,

Re: [neonixie-l] Constant current source design

2017-04-20 Thread Paul Andrews
You need a few ions around in the Neon for the cascade to start. This can happen for a variety of reasons including cosmic rays, background radiation or doping of the gas mixture with something radioactive. There is at least one thread on here about radioactive nixies (which sent me off on a

Re: [neonixie-l] Constant current source design

2017-04-19 Thread JohnK
there :-)) ] Eventually they took the doors off and made sure that the internals were brightly illuminated! John K - Original Message - From: Tomasz Kowalczyk To: neonixie-l Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2017 7:52 AM Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Constant current source design W dniu

Re: [neonixie-l] Constant current source design

2017-04-19 Thread Tomasz Kowalczyk
W dniu wtorek, 18 kwietnia 2017 15:46:38 UTC+2 użytkownik jrehwin napisał: > > - while testing it I found out that striking voltage of tubes is a max > value - I've tested one Z567M and one LC-631, they both strike with > voltages lower than their normal maintaing voltage! > > > Yes, it's a

Re: [neonixie-l] Constant current source design

2017-04-18 Thread gregebert
It's done in FPGA code (verilog). I created a crude A-to-D converter using a resistor tree into 4 FPGA pins. The resistors are ratioed to give the FPGA indication when the anode voltage is 140,160, 180, or 200V. From there, the FPGA adjusts the duty-cycle of the DC-DC converter to change the

Re: [neonixie-l] Constant current source design

2017-04-18 Thread John Rehwinkel
> My wristwatch uses a 'boost' approach to ionize the display above 180V for > 25msec, then throttles back between 140 to 160V after the display is stable. > The saved energy is significant. It's 3-1/2 digits, direct-drive, and uses > NPN current-regulators for each segment (24 total). Is that

Re: [neonixie-l] Constant current source design

2017-04-18 Thread gregebert
My wristwatch uses a 'boost' approach to ionize the display above 180V for 25msec, then throttles back between 140 to 160V after the display is stable. The saved energy is significant. It's 3-1/2 digits, direct-drive, and uses NPN current-regulators for each segment (24 total). My bench