Re: [NetBehaviour] linux laptops

2017-05-29 Thread helen varley jamieson
well, the price is more like what it really should cost to make a phone - if the people making it are paid properly and not exploited. so if you believe that people should be paid properly, & have good working conditions, then you should be prepared to pay this and more for phones & other

Re: [NetBehaviour] linux laptops

2017-05-28 Thread Rob Myers
From a Free Software point of view, anything with radio communication involved is hard because the chips that do the communication tend to use proprietary firmware (they are blobs of code with no source available). As a phone has at least one more channel of radio communication compared to a

Re: [NetBehaviour] linux laptops

2017-05-28 Thread aharon
might also interest people here: https://www.raspberrypi.org/magpi/zerophone/ is there a workshop in it..? ;) cheers! ahanox? xxx May 27 2017 12:51 PM, "aharon" wrote: > Thanks Helen, didn't know of lineageos.org. will try the os.. > Fairphone.. yes.. I wonder about the

Re: [NetBehaviour] linux laptops

2017-05-27 Thread aharon
Thanks Helen, didn't know of lineageos.org. will try the os.. Fairphone.. yes.. I wonder about the price.. out of my range, but is this difference in price the kind of number, in pounds, euros and other currencies - of a person's mobile-linked freedom? the price to pay for not working for

Re: [NetBehaviour] linux laptops

2017-05-24 Thread helen varley jamieson
i don't know about all mobile devices, but fairphone has a forum of alternative operating systems: https://forum.fairphone.com/c/software/alternative-oses (i don't have actual experience of any of them, i'm just using the standard fairphone kola nut OS) h : ) On 23.05.2017 23:22, x wrote: > >

Re: [NetBehaviour] linux laptops

2017-05-24 Thread helen varley jamieson
i've had no trouble with wireless connectivity, just entered the details & it worked. installing the printer driver via the command line was easier than i expected too, i followed the instructions i found online & it worked first time. this laptop came with LibreOffice preinstalled, & i was going

Re: [NetBehaviour] linux laptops

2017-05-24 Thread ruth catlow
I've been running Linux Mint on the same Samsung laptop for the last 4 years without a single unfortunate incident... and low level maintenance. With Gimp, Open Office (sometimes annoying), Inkscape, Kdenlive, Audacity, VLC, Filezilla. Good wireless connectivity. Some trouble with print drives

Re: [NetBehaviour] linux laptops

2017-05-23 Thread x
oh.. operating systems.. just had over a month of being on road and having to keep technologically cheap yet light.. hence still suffering android.. am i missing something or there is a complete and utter absence of quality free operating system for mobile devices? rant apart 

Re: [NetBehaviour] linux laptops

2017-05-23 Thread Edward Picot
Helen, Good for you! I agree that Linux is much less deterring than we are generally led to believe. I started by putting it on an old spare computer a few years ago, and since then I've been buying cheap laptops and over-writing the existing Windows operating system with Linux, which always

Re: [NetBehaviour] linux laptops

2017-05-22 Thread Alan Sondheim
It installed quickly for me. I think there's a way to get a graphic os on it but I haven't tried. Used to use Cygwin and still have it! - Alan On Tue, 23 May 2017, James Morris wrote: It's only really the command line tools (which is still a lot!). I got quite excited about it at work

Re: [NetBehaviour] linux laptops

2017-05-22 Thread James Morris
It's only really the command line tools (which is still a lot!). I got quite excited about it at work where I'm using a few BASH scripts with Cygwin on a regular basis. Unfortunately the Windows 10 Anniversary update which contains the Linux tools consistently fails to install - and takes 3/4

Re: [NetBehaviour] linux laptops

2017-05-22 Thread Alan Sondheim
Fwiw, one thing worth noting - for those who are using limited memory (like my netbook), Midori's an excellent browser - Also wanted to mention that you can open up Ubuntu in Win10 - I have it working there as well. It comes with the OS, - Alan On Mon, 22 May 2017, helen varley jamieson

Re: [NetBehaviour] linux laptops

2017-05-22 Thread helen varley jamieson
thanks alan :) i have noticed how much less space the OS needs, & how quickly everything runs! h : ) On 22.05.2017 18:59, Alan Sondheim wrote: > > I use linux on my older laptops; it's easy to install; in fact I'm on > a Dell netbook now with only 2 gig of ram and it runs fine. One good >

Re: [NetBehaviour] linux laptops

2017-05-22 Thread helen varley jamieson
hi pall, the webcam is a BT-1 (http://www.ecamm.com/support/?cat=bt1) & it seems to be mac only (& isn't made anymore). i had a bit of a look for a linux driver for it but didn't find one. if you know of one, please tell me! i'm still experimenting with the keyboard, & which keys to use for

Re: [NetBehaviour] linux laptops

2017-05-22 Thread Alan Sondheim
I use linux on my older laptops; it's easy to install; in fact I'm on a Dell netbook now with only 2 gig of ram and it runs fine. One good thing about the OS is that you can install a different one in maybe 15 minutes, so you can tailor the linux distro to your needs. Fwiw, I use linux mint

Re: [NetBehaviour] linux laptops

2017-05-22 Thread Pall Thayer
Hi Helen, What is the wireless webcam? Also, you should be able to find a keyboard layout that makes it easier to type an umlaut. I frequently have to switch between English and Icelandic, so I have things set up so that right-Ctrl-Shift switches between American and Icelandic layouts. Best r.

Re: [NetBehaviour] linux laptops

2017-05-22 Thread Marc.garrett
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[NetBehaviour] linux laptops

2017-05-22 Thread helen varley jamieson
hi everyone, more than a year ago i wrote to this list asking for advice about buying a linux laptop. it took me a while, but i'm now happily working with ubuntu mate on a no-brand machine :) i spent quite a lot of time looking at second-hand & B-ware (ex-display) machines, & also at new models