[NetBehaviour] veintransformations, worlding, love in vein

2015-12-12 Thread Alan Sondheim
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Re: [NetBehaviour] Pirate Bay Founder: 'I Have Given Up'

2015-12-12 Thread Alan Sondheim
Absolutely agree with you here; our music has even been used for others' work, it's downloaded, played on college stations, and we get no reviews at this point, no sales - last I heard we sold 3 cds of Threnody in spite of a lot of attention. All the hours of practice, instrument upkeep, etc.

Re: [NetBehaviour] Pirate Bay Founder: 'I Have Given Up'

2015-12-12 Thread Ana Valdés
Sorry my mail was sent truncated I was not ready with my reasoning. My point is you can't separate the immaterial products from the other ones. You have factories making soap and mobiles and cars and you have film- and music studies making films or pressing CD or streaming it as Spotify and others.

Re: [NetBehaviour] Pirate Bay Founder: 'I Have Given Up'

2015-12-12 Thread Ana Valdés
As I wrote in Twitter (caravia158) we need social and political revolutions and not only free downloads. I know the Pirate Bay phenomenon pretty well since I lived in Sweden as they started it and many ppl who joined them were very political naive and believed the information should be free and by

Re: [NetBehaviour] Pirate Bay Founder: 'I Have Given Up'

2015-12-12 Thread Rob Myers
Society may produce exceptional spaces though? On 12 December 2015 03:31:08 GMT-08:00, ruth catlow wrote: >I like his final statement- that the Internet is the same as society- >not an exceptional place. > > >On 12/12/15 11:24, marc garrett wrote: >> I've just copied this from the Nettime list,

Re: [NetBehaviour] Pirate Bay Founder: 'I Have Given Up'

2015-12-12 Thread dave miller
"Why, Sir, you find no man, at all intellectual, who is willing to leave the Internet. No, Sir, when a man is tired of the Internet, he is tired of life; for there is on the Internet all that life can afford." — Samuel Johnson On 12 December 2015 at 11:31, ruth catlow wrote: > I like his final s

Re: [NetBehaviour] Pirate Bay Founder: 'I Have Given Up'

2015-12-12 Thread ruth catlow
I like his final statement- that the Internet is the same as society- not an exceptional place. On 12/12/15 11:24, marc garrett wrote: I've just copied this from the Nettime list, and thought others here may be interested in the subject... wishing you well. marc < http://motherboard.vice.c

[NetBehaviour] Pirate Bay Founder: 'I Have Given Up'

2015-12-12 Thread marc garrett
I've just copied this from the Nettime list, and thought others here may be interested in the subject... wishing you well. marc < http://motherboard.vice.com/read/pirate-bay-founder-peter-sunde-i-have-given-up > Pirate Bay Founder: 'I Have Given Up' Written by JOOST MOLLEN December 11, 2015 /