Re: Hard Real-Time?

2020-04-19 Thread Michael Cheponis
> Unix can't do hard real time, he is still correct I'm not sure I have been clear: I modified 4.3BSD to do Hard Real Time. https://youtu.be/Bd5iEke6UlE shows you all the machines that operated with my mods to 4.3BSD. And, I'd like to modify NetBSD to also be Hard Real Time. Ultimately, it's

Re: logout delay

2020-04-19 Thread Martin Husemann
On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 02:06:23AM +0500, Vitaly Shevtsov wrote: > Hello! > > Does anybody know why there is about 1 second delay before OS exited > from the shell? There is no such issue on FreeBSD for example - it > quits immediately when you type 'exit' or press ^D. Maybe a strange question,

Re: Hard Real-Time?

2020-04-19 Thread Michael Cheponis
Thanks to all who contributed here, I'm learning a lot. As to what is 'real time' -- as you can probably tell by watching the video at the URL, the robots were dynamically stable - they had to react within a millisecond (Read sensors; do all control; storage of data for post-run analysis, run all

Re: Hard Real-Time?

2020-04-19 Thread Johnny Billquist
Just wanted to point out that indeed, none of the "other" Unixes do hard real time, and neither do NetBSD. Unix was not designed with real time in mind, much less hard real time. It is usually good enough for soft real time, and that sounds like what you are looking for here as well. If you

Re: Question about resize_ffs or resize_root=YES

2020-04-19 Thread Michael van Elst
acr...@gmail.com (Andy Ruhl) writes: >will extend the filesystem automatically. I tried writing the new >slice size with fdisk then doing resize_ffs, this didn't help. slices are defined in the disklabel. fdisk handles the MBR partition table which is mostly unrelated. -- --

logout delay

2020-04-19 Thread Vitaly Shevtsov
Hello! Does anybody know why there is about 1 second delay before OS exited from the shell? There is no such issue on FreeBSD for example - it quits immediately when you type 'exit' or press ^D.

Question about resize_ffs or resize_root=YES

2020-04-19 Thread Andy Ruhl
I feel like I'm missing something here, if so sorry about that. I have a VMWare virtual machine running 9.0. I did a quick minimal system install on another disk to try to extend the root filesystem of my main system disk. I extended the physical disk in VMWare, so I'm trying to extend the root

Re: DNSSEC vs netbsd-8/sparc?

2020-04-19 Thread Havard Eidnes
>> Just in case there was something botched in my local builds, I updated >> the sparc system from the latest nightly builds of netbsd-7 and netbsd-8. >> >> The behavior is the same. Both netbsd-[78]/sparc produce a bad DNSSEC DS >> hash (the first line): >> >> . IN DS 20326 8 1

Re: NetBSD 9.0 Huge Memory Usage

2020-04-19 Thread John m0t
The images and the first posts are all without firefox for example the one in tty without X running. but as the questions rolled out asking for the ps and swap I was posting to the forum. at that point firefox was running for obvious reasons :D   - Reply to message - Subject: Re: NetBSD

Re: NetBSD 9.0 Huge Memory Usage

2020-04-19 Thread John m0t
No AMD video card. Just intel i965.   - Reply to message - Subject: Re: NetBSD 9.0 Huge Memory Usage Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2020, 14:37 From: Jaromír Doleček To: John m0t Le dim. 19 avr. 2020 à 13:09, John m0t a écrit : > > Hello; > I have this problem from the first boot after

Re: Hard Real-Time?

2020-04-19 Thread Sad Clouds
On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 15:27:16 +0200 Johnny Billquist wrote: > Essentially, a hard real time system guarantees that it never takes > longer than some specified time for something to happen. And as far > as I know, NetBSD cannot give such guarantees. Various combinations > of events and situations

Re: NetBeans Unexpected error: the trustAnchors parameter must be non-empty

2020-04-19 Thread John m0t
hello; any update on this particular error? I couldn't find any solution for it here on netbsd. looking forward to your suggestions Truly Yours J.B - Reply to message - Subject: Re: NetBeans Unexpected error: the trustAnchors parameter must be non-empty Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2020, 01:24

Re: Hard Real-Time?

2020-04-19 Thread Johnny Billquist
On 2020-04-15 22:14, Michael Cheponis wrote: Is there already a way to do "hard real time" on NetBSD? To me, "hard real time" means from an external pin going 'high' to the 1st instruction of my driver executing is on the order of (up to) 10 usec. Many eons ago, I did this on BSD4.3 VAX 785

Re: NetBSD 9.0 Huge Memory Usage

2020-04-19 Thread David Huang
On 4/19/2020 4:25 AM, John m0t wrote: Hello; I have this problem from the first boot after installation. The memory usage is normal but it grows exponentially. The memory that gets consumed won't be returned to the system. after 14hrs of computer just setting idle the memory would grow about

Re: NetBSD 9.0 Huge Memory Usage

2020-04-19 Thread MLH
John wrote: > Hello; > I have this problem from the first boot after installation. > The memory usage is normal but it grows exponentially. I filed it back on Feb 19 - port-amd64/54988: possible memory leaks/swap problems (kmem-192 memory lossage) Appears to be associated with the radeon driver

Re: NetBSD 9.0 Huge Memory Usage

2020-04-19 Thread John m0t
this is the output of ps aux : # ps aux USERPID %CPU %MEM VSZRSS TTY STAT STARTED TIME COMMAND root 66 10.5 1.0 250148 86436 ? Rl8:33PM 33:25.03 /usr/X11R7/bi admin 4020 6.2 9.3 34817776 778824 pts/4 Sl+ 11:26AM 30:03.00 /usr/pkg/lib/ root 0 0.0 0.3

Re: NetBSD 9.0 Huge Memory Usage

2020-04-19 Thread John m0t
alhost 9.0 NetBSD 9.0 (GENERIC) #0: Fri Feb 14 00:06:28 UTC 2020 > mkre...@mkrepro.netbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC amd64 > ``` > Intel CPU T9300 > 8GB of DDR2 Memory > [url=https://postimg.cc/ykV9yY7W][img]https://i.postimg.cc/ykV9yY7W/4fb9-img-20200419-111849.jp

Re: NetBSD 9.0 Huge Memory Usage

2020-04-19 Thread Jaromír Doleček
Le dim. 19 avr. 2020 à 13:09, John m0t a écrit : > > Hello; > I have this problem from the first boot after installation. > The memory usage is normal but it grows exponentially. > The memory that gets consumed won't be returned to the system. > after 14hrs of computer just setting idle the

NetBSD 9.0 Huge Memory Usage

2020-04-19 Thread John m0t
this. ``` NetBSD localhost 9.0 NetBSD 9.0 (GENERIC) #0: Fri Feb 14 00:06:28 UTC 2020 mkre...@mkrepro.netbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC amd64 ``` Intel CPU T9300 8GB of DDR2 Memory [url=https://postimg.cc/ykV9yY7W][img]https://i.postimg.cc/ykV9yY7W/4fb9-img-20200419-111849.jpg[/img][/url