Re: will netbsd be sticking with gcc?

2014-06-18 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 08:19:04AM +0200, Martin Husemann wrote: On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 07:40:52AM +0530, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: i have heard good things about pcc, mostly, except for perhaps the fact that it doesn't yet support all the netbsd platforms which gcc does. And it has no C++

Re: will netbsd be sticking with gcc?

2014-06-18 Thread Thomas Mueller
from Mayuresh Kathe: i just read a note somewhere on the web about netbsd folks trying out an alternative compiler set (pcc). did that not work out? i have heard good things about pcc, mostly, except for perhaps the fact that it doesn't yet support all the netbsd platforms which

Re: will netbsd be sticking with gcc?

2014-06-18 Thread Matt Thomas
On Jun 17, 2014, at 7:10 PM, Mayuresh Kathe mayur...@kathe.in wrote: hello, i just read a note somewhere on the web about netbsd folks trying out an alternative compiler set (pcc). did that not work out? Actually, NetBSD has 3 possible compilers: gcc, clang/llvm, and pcc. Each compiler

lua in kernel!

2014-06-18 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
hello, while i was drawn to netbsd because of the upcoming lua support in the kernel and userland, i am quite lost about the probable use cases for real-world scenarios. prima-face, it feels quite strange to have a scriptable kernel and have that capability extended through out the userland. i

Re: lua in kernel!

2014-06-18 Thread Justin Cormack
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 12:06 PM, Mayuresh Kathe mayur...@kathe.in wrote: hello, while i was drawn to netbsd because of the upcoming lua support in the kernel and userland, i am quite lost about the probable use cases for real-world scenarios. prima-face, it feels quite strange to have a

Re: Create a file with history in sh

2014-06-18 Thread Greg Troxel
Rocky Hotas rockyho...@post.com writes: I am quite new with this mailing-list. I've redirected followups to netbsd-users. tech-userlevel is for arguing about complicated bugs or proposed changes ;-) During the installation of NetBSD, I choose /bin/sh as the default root and user shell.

Re: Create a file with history in sh

2014-06-18 Thread matthew sporleder
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 8:51 AM, Greg Troxel g...@ir.bbn.com wrote: Rocky Hotas rockyho...@post.com writes: I am quite new with this mailing-list. I've redirected followups to netbsd-users. tech-userlevel is for arguing about complicated bugs or proposed changes ;-) During the

Re: Create a file with history in sh

2014-06-18 Thread Rocky Hotas
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 at 3:09 PM From: matthew sporleder msporle...@gmail.com To: Greg Troxel g...@ir.bbn.com Cc: Rocky Hotas rockyho...@post.com, NetBSD Users Mailing List netbsd-users@netbsd.org Subject: Re: Create a file with history in sh ksh will have all of the features

http://netbsd.org/~rmind/npf/ should be linked under the documentation on www.netbsd.org

2014-06-18 Thread art ist
Not sure who maintains the links on the site, but someone on freenode graciously gave me this link. I couldn't find it in the documentation or wiki so I implore you that  it be added. Thank you. NPF documentation NPF documentation Official NPF documentation View on netbsd.org Preview by

Re: Create a file with history in sh

2014-06-18 Thread Justin Cormack
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 2:14 PM, Rocky Hotas rockyho...@post.com wrote: Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 at 2:51 PM From: Greg Troxel g...@ir.bbn.com To: Rocky Hotas rockyho...@post.com Cc: netbsd-users@netbsd.org Subject: Re: Create a file with history in sh I've redirected followups to

Re: openbsd - netbsd : same yet feels different ...

2014-06-18 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 11:32:01PM +0200, Ottavio Caruso wrote: On 17 June 2014 20:59, g.lister g.lis...@nodeunit.com wrote: Hi Mayuresh, snip Can I be grumpy for a second? What happened to bottom posting? Has it gone out of fashion? Interleaved is better! Oh! and trim out any

Re: Create a file with history in sh

2014-06-18 Thread Greg Troxel
Justin Cormack jus...@specialbusservice.com writes: On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 2:14 PM, Rocky Hotas rockyho...@post.com wrote: - do you suggest to seldom use the root account in order to prevent some system damages, like in the other *nix systems, or for other reasons? Yes, it is just the

Re: Create a file with history in sh

2014-06-18 Thread Ottavio Caruso
On 18 June 2014 15:09, matthew sporleder msporle...@gmail.com wrote: ksh will have all of the features you want and is installed in base. Interesting. I definitely need bash as a normal user but I would gladly use ksh as root. Why is this not in the docs and in INSTALL.html? That would have

Re: Create a file with history in sh

2014-06-18 Thread matthew sporleder
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 9:51 AM, Ottavio Caruso ottavio2006-usenet2...@yahoo.com wrote: On 18 June 2014 15:09, matthew sporleder msporle...@gmail.com wrote: ksh will have all of the features you want and is installed in base. Interesting. I definitely need bash as a normal user but I would

Re: NPF: newbie experiencing some strange behavior (solved)

2014-06-18 Thread g.lister
On 06/17/2014 11:32 PM, J. Lewis Muir wrote: On 6/17/14, 4:02 PM, g.lister wrote: The next rule there is +++ pass out final all +++ I think it should be evaluated as it is after the blocking of TCP transactions so UDP should be going out, but following your comment I played around with

Re: openbsd - netbsd : same yet feels different ...

2014-06-18 Thread g.lister
On 06/18/2014 03:22 PM, Chris Bannister wrote: On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 11:32:01PM +0200, Ottavio Caruso wrote: On 17 June 2014 20:59, g.lister g.lis...@nodeunit.com wrote: Hi Mayuresh, snip Can I be grumpy for a second? What happened to bottom posting? Has it gone out of fashion?

Re: openbsd - netbsd : same yet feels different ...

2014-06-18 Thread Gerard Lally
At date and time Wed, 18 Jun 2014 07:39:59 +0300, Terho Uotila wrote: On Wed, 18 Jun 2014 00:06:12 +0100 Gerard Lally wrote: guide. Indeed I am still not 100% clear about it. It's also difficult to get mk.conf working so that GNU and Perl and Sourceforge software is pulled from a local