Re: [netmod] An abundant amount of IANA if types...

2018-04-06 Thread Andy Bierman
On Fri, Apr 6, 2018 at 9:24 AM, Mahesh Jethanandani wrote: > Chassis based systems have line cards that support particular interface > types. What happens to the output when a line card is plugged in or out of > the system? In other words, is this a static or a dynamic list? > > An RPC is inheren

Re: [netmod] An abundant amount of IANA if types...

2018-04-06 Thread Mahesh Jethanandani
Chassis based systems have line cards that support particular interface types. What happens to the output when a line card is plugged in or out of the system? In other words, is this a static or a dynamic list? > On Apr 6, 2018, at 9:03 AM, Andy Bierman wrote: > > Hi, > > All of these suggest

Re: [netmod] An abundant amount of IANA if types...

2018-04-06 Thread Andy Bierman
Hi, All of these suggested solutions seem OK if one were looking for the most disruptive way to solve the problem. Tossing iana-if-types and starting over would achieve that result. First, this is a server capabilities problem, so it is related to the implementation, not the schema. Second, the

Re: [netmod] An abundant amount of IANA if types...

2018-04-06 Thread Robert Wilton
At the moment, I would say that the vast majority of the definitions in IANA.yang are just noise because they refer to definitions that are obsolete.  Our OS seems to use only 10% of the 287+ defined IANA types, and that 10% includes technologies such as frame relay, serial, atm, that very much

Re: [netmod] Comments on schema mount draft

2018-04-06 Thread Martin Bjorklund
Hi, Rohit Ranade wrote: > Hi Martin, > > > > For below point: > > “ > > > 4. NETCONF has some "rpc" which work on multiple mount-instances. > > > >==> For example , or . Whether we need > > to give a > > > >guideline for how to handle such "rpc", so that other protocols which > >

Re: [netmod] js review of draft-ietf-netmod-schema-mount-09

2018-04-06 Thread Martin Bjorklund
Hi, Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: > On Thu, Apr 05, 2018 at 02:33:40PM +0200, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Thank you for this review! Comments inline. > > > > Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: > > > Here is my review of draft-ietf-netmod-schema-mount-09. > > > > > > * Abstract > > > >

Re: [netmod] An abundant amount of IANA if types...

2018-04-06 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
On Fri, 2018-04-06 at 14:29 +0200, Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: > On Fri, Apr 06, 2018 at 02:01:30PM +0200, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > > On Fri, 2018-04-06 at 13:36 +0200, Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: > > > On Fri, Apr 06, 2018 at 10:51:48AM +0200, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > > > > Juergen Schoenwaelder

Re: [netmod] Comments on schema mount draft

2018-04-06 Thread Rohit Ranade
Hi Martin, For below point: “ > 4. NETCONF has some "rpc" which work on multiple mount-instances. > >==> For example , or . Whether we need to > give a > >guideline for how to handle such "rpc", so that other protocols which > implement schema mount also adapt accordingly ? > >

Re: [netmod] An abundant amount of IANA if types...

2018-04-06 Thread Martin Bjorklund
Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: > On Fri, Apr 06, 2018 at 10:51:48AM +0200, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > > Juergen Schoenwaelder writes: > > > > > If we would have a mechanism to deviate an identityref to a subset of > > > identity values supported by an implementation, we would have solved a > > > mor

Re: [netmod] An abundant amount of IANA if types...

2018-04-06 Thread Juergen Schoenwaelder
On Fri, Apr 06, 2018 at 02:01:30PM +0200, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > On Fri, 2018-04-06 at 13:36 +0200, Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 06, 2018 at 10:51:48AM +0200, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > > > Juergen Schoenwaelder writes: > > > > > > > If we would have a mechanism to deviate an iden

Re: [netmod] js review of draft-ietf-netmod-schema-mount-09

2018-04-06 Thread Juergen Schoenwaelder
On Thu, Apr 05, 2018 at 02:33:40PM +0200, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > Hi, > > Thank you for this review! Comments inline. > > Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: > > Here is my review of draft-ietf-netmod-schema-mount-09. > > > > * Abstract > > > >This document defines a mechanism to combine YANG

Re: [netmod] An abundant amount of IANA if types...

2018-04-06 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
On Fri, 2018-04-06 at 13:36 +0200, Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: > On Fri, Apr 06, 2018 at 10:51:48AM +0200, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > > Juergen Schoenwaelder writes: > > > > > If we would have a mechanism to deviate an identityref to a subset of > > > identity values supported by an implementation

Re: [netmod] An abundant amount of IANA if types...

2018-04-06 Thread Bogaert, Bart (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)
Juergen, I was not suggesting to have a feature for all identities but I would assume that there are several identities that logically belong to each other so these could be grouped. If this would still lead to a lot of features I do not see how a deviation can help out here to reduce the numb

Re: [netmod] An abundant amount of IANA if types...

2018-04-06 Thread Juergen Schoenwaelder
On Fri, Apr 06, 2018 at 10:51:48AM +0200, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > Juergen Schoenwaelder writes: > > > If we would have a mechanism to deviate an identityref to a subset of > > identity values supported by an implementation, we would have solved a > > more generic problem. Yes, the IANA list coul

Re: [netmod] An abundant amount of IANA if types...

2018-04-06 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
Juergen Schoenwaelder writes: > If we would have a mechanism to deviate an identityref to a subset of > identity values supported by an implementation, we would have solved a > more generic problem. Yes, the IANA list could be 'nicer' but it will > never be 'nice'. Three mechanisms can be used f

Re: [netmod] An abundant amount of IANA if types...

2018-04-06 Thread Juergen Schoenwaelder
If we would have a mechanism to deviate an identityref to a subset of identity values supported by an implementation, we would have solved a more generic problem. Yes, the IANA list could be 'nicer' but it will never be 'nice'. /js On Fri, Apr 06, 2018 at 08:12:03AM +, Bogaert, Bart (Nokia -

Re: [netmod] An abundant amount of IANA if types...

2018-04-06 Thread Bogaert, Bart (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)
Alex, Not sure if this only has to do with "practical limitations providing a CLI interface"... In a machine-to-machine interface this is less of a problem but in a human-to-machine interface it seems a bit impractical to me to find a solution for a problem to scroll through a list of 100+ co

Re: [netmod] An abundant amount of IANA if types...

2018-04-06 Thread Martin Bjorklund
Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > Hi, > > I have argued several times in the past that the IANA interface list (and, for > that matter, the iana-if-type module) is a useless pile of rubbish because > > - for some interface classes (Ethernet, tunnels) it is way too coarse-grained > > - on the other hand,

Re: [netmod] An abundant amount of IANA if types...

2018-04-06 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
Hi, I have argued several times in the past that the IANA interface list (and, for that matter, the iana-if-type module) is a useless pile of rubbish because - for some interface classes (Ethernet, tunnels) it is way too coarse-grained - on the other hand, it contains a lot of stuff that nobody