[netmod] xpaths and Wrapping Long Lines - draft-ietf-netmod-yang-tree-diagrams-03

2017-12-21 Thread Ian Farrer
Hi, I’m just looking at the guidance on wrapping long lines given in Section 3.1. Unfortunately, this doesn’t cover the case where I refer to a long path. E.g: augment /nat:nat/nat:instances/nat:instance/nat:mapping-table/nat:mapping-entry: In this case, the total length (unindented) is 80

Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-entity-06

2017-12-21 Thread Martin Bjorklund
Hi, I need WG input on this issue. The question is how to handle 'serial-num', 'mfg-name', and 'model-name'. I think they should all be treated the same. Based on previous WG discussion (see e.g. the mail thread "draft-ietf-netmod-entity issue #13"), I think they should all be configurable,

Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-entity-06

2017-12-21 Thread Juergen Schoenwaelder
On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 12:37:46PM +0100, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > Hi, > > I need WG input on this issue. The question is how to handle > 'serial-num', 'mfg-name', and 'model-name'. I think they should all > be treated the same. Based on previous WG discussion (see e.g. the > mail thread

Re: [netmod] AD review: draft-ietf-netmod-revised-datastores-08

2017-12-21 Thread Robert Wilton
Hi Vladimir, First point of clarification is that this is not about running/intended at all.  The contents of running/intended do not change in anyway depending on whether hardware is present or absent. The section is only concerned with how the configuration is applied in operational, and

Re: [netmod] xpaths and Wrapping Long Lines - draft-ietf-netmod-yang-tree-diagrams-03

2017-12-21 Thread Ian Farrer
Thanks. This suggestion seems cleanest. Can the tree diagrams draft be updated to describe this? BR, Ian > On 21. Dec 2017, at 11:43, Juergen Schoenwaelder > wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 11:39:47AM +0100, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > >> But this is

Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-entity-06

2017-12-21 Thread Martin Bjorklund
Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: > On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 12:37:46PM +0100, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I need WG input on this issue. The question is how to handle > > 'serial-num', 'mfg-name', and 'model-name'. I think they should all > > be

Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-entity-06

2017-12-21 Thread Juergen Schoenwaelder
On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 12:58:26PM +0100, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 12:37:46PM +0100, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > I need WG input on this issue. The question is how to handle > > >

Re: [netmod] I-D Action: draft-ietf-netmod-revised-datastores-08.txt

2017-12-21 Thread Robert Wilton
On 21/12/2017 07:36, Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 07:53:37PM -0800, Andy Bierman wrote: Hi, On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 2:23 AM, Martin Bjorklund wrote: Hi, This version addresses the WGLC comments from Andy and Lou, as discussed on the list. I

Re: [netmod] xpaths and Wrapping Long Lines - draft-ietf-netmod-yang-tree-diagrams-03

2017-12-21 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
Martin Bjorklund writes: > Ladislav Lhotka wrote: >> Hi Ian, >> >> On Thu, 2017-12-21 at 10:42 +0100, Ian Farrer wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > I’m just looking at the guidance on wrapping long lines given in Section >> > 3.1. >> > Unfortunately, this doesn’t cover

Re: [netmod] xpaths and Wrapping Long Lines - draft-ietf-netmod-yang-tree-diagrams-03

2017-12-21 Thread Juergen Schoenwaelder
On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 11:39:47AM +0100, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > But this is in the YANG source; I think Ian asked about the tree > diagram syntax. Maybe the corresponding syntax in the tree diagram > could be simply: > > augment /nat:nat/nat:instances/nat:instance >

Re: [netmod] AD review: draft-ietf-netmod-revised-datastores-08

2017-12-21 Thread Juergen Schoenwaelder
On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 07:52:54PM +0100, Vladimir Vassilev wrote: > On 12/21/2017 02:20 PM, Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: > > > On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 02:03:45PM +0100, Vladimir Vassilev wrote: > > > On 12/21/2017 11:34 AM, Robert Wilton wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Vladimir, > > > > > > > > First

[netmod] I-D Action: draft-ietf-netmod-yang-tree-diagrams-04.txt

2017-12-21 Thread internet-drafts
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Network Modeling WG of the IETF. Title : YANG Tree Diagrams Authors : Martin Bjorklund Lou Berger Filename:

[netmod] Last Call: (A YANG Data Model for Hardware Management) to Proposed Standard

2017-12-21 Thread The IESG
The IESG has received a request from the Network Modeling WG (netmod) to consider the following document: - 'A YANG Data Model for Hardware Management' as Proposed Standard The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. Please send

Re: [netmod] AD review: draft-ietf-netmod-revised-datastores-08

2017-12-21 Thread Andy Bierman
Hi, It should be clear somehow that server requirements to provide config=false data that is valid according to the YANG definitions is not affected by NMDA. That is not being taken away. The ability to validate operational values of configuration data has never been provided, and therefore is

Re: [netmod] AD review: draft-ietf-netmod-revised-datastores-08

2017-12-21 Thread Vladimir Vassilev
On 12/21/2017 11:34 AM, Robert Wilton wrote: Hi Vladimir, First point of clarification is that this is not about running/intended at all.  The contents of running/intended do not change in anyway depending on whether hardware is present or absent. The section is only concerned with how the

Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-entity-06

2017-12-21 Thread Benoit Claise
On 12/21/2017 1:03 PM, Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 12:58:26PM +0100, Martin Bjorklund wrote: Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 12:37:46PM +0100, Martin Bjorklund wrote: Hi, I need WG input on this issue. The

Re: [netmod] AD review: draft-ietf-netmod-revised-datastores-08

2017-12-21 Thread Robert Wilton
On 21/12/2017 13:03, Vladimir Vassilev wrote: On 12/21/2017 11:34 AM, Robert Wilton wrote: Hi Vladimir, First point of clarification is that this is not about running/intended at all.  The contents of running/intended do not change in anyway depending on whether hardware is present or

Re: [netmod] xpaths and Wrapping Long Lines - draft-ietf-netmod-yang-tree-diagrams-03

2017-12-21 Thread Martin Bjorklund
Ian Farrer wrote: > Thanks. This suggestion seems cleanest. Can the tree diagrams draft > be updated to describe this? I suggest we add to the section "Wrapping Long Lines" NEW: Long paths (e.g., leafref paths or augment targets) can be split and printed on more than one

Re: [netmod] AD review: draft-ietf-netmod-revised-datastores-08

2017-12-21 Thread Juergen Schoenwaelder
On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 02:03:45PM +0100, Vladimir Vassilev wrote: > On 12/21/2017 11:34 AM, Robert Wilton wrote: > > > Hi Vladimir, > > > > First point of clarification is that this is not about running/intended > > at all.  The contents of running/intended do not change in anyway > > depending

Re: [netmod] *one* week 2nd WG Last Call: draft-ietf-netmod-revised-datastores-07

2017-12-21 Thread Martin Bjorklund
Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > Martin Bjorklund writes: > > > Hi Andy, > > > > Andy Bierman wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> I have reviewed draft-07 and my previous comments about NMDA have been > >> addressed. > >> > >> This might be the most

Re: [netmod] draft-ietf-netmod-yang-tree-diagrams - IPR verfication request

2017-12-21 Thread Lou Berger
No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft Lou (co-author) On 12/19/2017 1:39 PM, joel jaeggli wrote: > Authors, Contributors, WG, > > As part of the preparation for WG Last Call: > > Are you aware of any IPR that applies to drafts identified above? > > Please state either: > > "No,

Re: [netmod] *one* week 2nd WG Last Call: draft-ietf-netmod-revised-datastores-07

2017-12-21 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
On Thu, 2017-12-21 at 14:25 +0100, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > > Martin Bjorklund writes: > > > > > Hi Andy, > > > > > > Andy Bierman wrote: > > >> Hi, > > >> > > >> I have reviewed draft-07 and my previous comments

Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-entity-06

2017-12-21 Thread Robert Wilton
Hi Martin, On 21/12/2017 11:37, Martin Bjorklund wrote: Hi, I need WG input on this issue. The question is how to handle 'serial-num', 'mfg-name', and 'model-name'. I think they should all be treated the same. Based on previous WG discussion (see e.g. the mail thread

Re: [netmod] *one* week 2nd WG Last Call: draft-ietf-netmod-revised-datastores-07

2017-12-21 Thread Martin Bjorklund
Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > On Thu, 2017-12-21 at 14:25 +0100, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > > Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > > > Martin Bjorklund writes: > > > > > > > Hi Andy, > > > > > > > > Andy Bierman wrote: > > > >> Hi, > > > >> >

Re: [netmod] YANG module security considerations

2017-12-21 Thread Benoit Claise
Dear all, The proposed change has been applied to https://trac.ietf.org/trac/ops/wiki/yang-security-guidelines For all document authors, please apply the new template. Diff at https://trac.ietf.org/trac/ops/wiki/yang-security-guidelines?action=diff=13_version=12 Regards, Benoit Hi Lada,

Re: [netmod] xpaths and Wrapping Long Lines - draft-ietf-netmod-yang-tree-diagrams-03

2017-12-21 Thread Ian Farrer
Great. Many thanks, Ian > On 21. Dec 2017, at 11:28, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > > Hi Ian, > > On Thu, 2017-12-21 at 10:42 +0100, Ian Farrer wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I’m just looking at the guidance on wrapping long lines given in Section 3.1. >> Unfortunately, this doesn’t cover the

Re: [netmod] xpaths and Wrapping Long Lines - draft-ietf-netmod-yang-tree-diagrams-03

2017-12-21 Thread Robert Wilton
On 21/12/2017 10:43, Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 11:39:47AM +0100, Martin Bjorklund wrote: But this is in the YANG source; I think Ian asked about the tree diagram syntax. Maybe the corresponding syntax in the tree diagram could be simply: augment

Re: [netmod] AD review: draft-ietf-netmod-revised-datastores-08

2017-12-21 Thread Vladimir Vassilev
On 12/21/2017 02:20 PM, Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 02:03:45PM +0100, Vladimir Vassilev wrote: On 12/21/2017 11:34 AM, Robert Wilton wrote: Hi Vladimir, First point of clarification is that this is not about running/intended at all.  The contents of running/intended

[netmod] I-D Action: draft-ietf-netmod-revised-datastores-09.txt

2017-12-21 Thread internet-drafts
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Network Modeling WG of the IETF. Title : Network Management Datastore Architecture Authors : Martin Bjorklund Juergen

[netmod] Yangdoctors early review of draft-ietf-netmod-rfc8022bis-05

2017-12-21 Thread Martin Bjorklund
Reviewer: Martin Bjorklund Review result: Ready with Nits Hi, I have reviewed this document mainly from a NMDA perspective. As expected, the YANG model follows all conventions and looks good in general. Most of my comments below relate to NMDA terminology. o Abstract and Introdcution Both

[netmod] I-D Action: draft-ietf-netmod-entity-07.txt

2017-12-21 Thread internet-drafts
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Network Modeling WG of the IETF. Title : A YANG Data Model for Hardware Management Authors : Andy Bierman Martin Bjorklund

Re: [netmod] I-D Action: draft-ietf-netmod-revised-datastores-09.txt

2017-12-21 Thread Benoit Claise
Dear all, We all know it's important to deliver NMDA soon. I'm sending this document to IETF LC now, till Jan 10th. If Vladimir's concern needs to be discussed further, let's do so part the IETF LC. Regards, Benoit Just an FYI - I requested that the authors republish so that all could see