Re: [netmod] new YANG 1.1 Issue Y61: I2RS support

2015-07-29 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
On 29 Jul 2015, at 17:02, Juergen Schoenwaelder j.schoenwael...@jacobs-university.de wrote: On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 04:55:03PM +0200, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: On 29 Jul 2015, at 16:44, Juergen Schoenwaelder j.schoenwael...@jacobs-university.de wrote: On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 04:38:41PM

[netmod] Mail regarding draft-mansfield-netmod-uml-to-yang

2015-07-29 Thread Ari Sodhi
There are some interesting ideas proposed. Here are some initial questions and somewhat random comments based on a quick read of draft-mansfield-netmod-uml-to-yang-00. General questions on draft-mansfield-netmod-uml-to-yang: 1. Is the proposed mapping supposed to be bi-directional in

Re: [netmod] new YANG 1.1 Issue Y61: I2RS support

2015-07-29 Thread Martin Bjorklund
Andy Bierman a...@yumaworks.com wrote: Hi, I understand the intent is that an implementation of NACM has to understand these NACM extensions. I agree with Lada that the YANG text about MAY ignore extensions casts doubt whether this sort of NACM rule is enforceable or specified correctly.

Re: [netmod] new YANG 1.1 Issue Y61: I2RS support

2015-07-29 Thread Andy Bierman
Hi, I understand the intent is that an implementation of NACM has to understand these NACM extensions. I agree with Lada that the YANG text about MAY ignore extensions casts doubt whether this sort of NACM rule is enforceable or specified correctly. Andy On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 10:44 AM,

Re: [netmod] new YANG 1.1 Issue Y61: I2RS support

2015-07-29 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
Andy Bierman a...@yumaworks.com writes: Hi, I do not agree that ephemeral data should be outside the scope of the standard. I do not agree that YANG extensions should be used for IETF standards track modules. It was a mistake to define the get-filter hack in the first place. IMO it is a

Re: [netmod] new YANG 1.1 Issue Y62: YANG should not be NETCONF-specific

2015-07-29 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
Juergen Schoenwaelder j.schoenwael...@jacobs-university.de writes: Lada, there won't be any decision as long as there is not a concrete actionable proposal to be discussed. Such a proposal does not have to be 'complete rewrite' but it needs to be a detailed list of what would have to change

Re: [netmod] new YANG 1.1 Issue Y61: I2RS support

2015-07-29 Thread Juergen Schoenwaelder
On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 09:34:17AM +0200, Martin Bjorklund wrote: Hi, Andy Bierman a...@yumaworks.com wrote: I do not agree that YANG extensions should be used for IETF standards track modules. I strongly disagree. This was one of the two original ideas behind extension statements

Re: [netmod] new YANG 1.1 Issue Y62: YANG should not be NETCONF-specific

2015-07-29 Thread Tina TSOU
Dear all, Agree with Lada and Juergen, regarding quantifying the changes and the time frame. Thank you, Tina On Jul 29, 2015, at 6:35 PM, Juergen Schoenwaelder j.schoenwael...@jacobs-university.demailto:j.schoenwael...@jacobs-university.de wrote: On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 11:49:01AM +0200,

Re: [netmod] new YANG 1.1 Issue Y61: I2RS support

2015-07-29 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
On 29 Jul 2015, at 12:25, Juergen Schoenwaelder j.schoenwael...@jacobs-university.de wrote: On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 09:34:17AM +0200, Martin Bjorklund wrote: Hi, Andy Bierman a...@yumaworks.com wrote: I do not agree that YANG extensions should be used for IETF standards track