Re: [netmod] yang-next meeting at IETF 104?
I am interested in attending the virtual meeting(s) and the in-person meeting in Prague (Monday-Thursday preferably). On 2019-01-14, 5:27 PM, "netmod on behalf of Kent Watsen" wrote: >> PS: I've been too busy to setup a virtual meeting for us to finish the >> review of the YANG-next items in the GitHub tracker. But things are >> just beginning to free up a little for me now. Would folks like to >> have a meeting before 104 to finish that review? > > I think that's what the side meeting would do - review the current > items to see what makes sense. Sure, but perhaps the in-person time would be better spent analyzing the results of the reviews? Recall that we're trying to score each item on three axis: importance, complexity, backward-compatibility. Current results here: https://github.com/netmod-wg/yang-next/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+sort%3Acreated-asc. At the rate we were going (about 40% done), I imagine it taking 2-4 hours to score the remaining issues. This may not be an issue if we can meet multiple times during the week but, if time is tight, I'd rather have this part done before we meet. Kent // contributor ___ netmod mailing list netmod@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netmod ___ netmod mailing list netmod@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netmod
Re: [netmod] yang-next meeting at IETF 104?
On Mon, 2019-01-14 at 09:07 -0800, Andy Bierman wrote: > Hi, > > Is there any interest in 1 or more side meetings at the next IETF to > discuss the yang-next issue list, towards the goal of determining the > problem space in scope for YANG 1.2? Yes, I would be interested. I have no preferences in terms of timing. Lada > > Those of us who would need to make travel plans would appreciate it > if meetings like this were scheduled ASAP instead of ALAP ;-) > > > Andy > > ___ > netmod mailing list > netmod@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netmod -- Ladislav Lhotka Head, CZ.NIC Labs PGP Key ID: 0xB8F92B08A9F76C67 ___ netmod mailing list netmod@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netmod
Re: [netmod] yang-next meeting at IETF 104?
On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 2:27 PM Kent Watsen wrote: > >> PS: I've been too busy to setup a virtual meeting for us to finish the > >> review of the YANG-next items in the GitHub tracker. But things are > >> just beginning to free up a little for me now. Would folks like to > >> have a meeting before 104 to finish that review? > > > > I think that's what the side meeting would do - review the current > > items to see what makes sense. > > Sure, but perhaps the in-person time would be better spent analyzing the > results of the reviews? Recall that we're trying to score each item on > three axis: importance, complexity, backward-compatibility. > > I agree with this approach. It is too easy to get bogged down on how a solution might work (or worse, let's compare 2 or 3 different solutions right now) and never finish the issue list. There are spot solutions in progress (e.g., on-change notification, yang-data) that might be much better handled with robust generalized solutions in YANG. I have some concern that a patchwork of optional extensions is worse for end-users in the long-term, than a new YANG language version. Current results here: > https://github.com/netmod-wg/yang-next/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+sort%3Acreated-asc > . > > At the rate we were going (about 40% done), I imagine it taking 2-4 hours > to score the remaining issues. This may not be an issue if we can meet > multiple times during the week but, if time is tight, I'd rather have this > part done before we meet. > > Kent // contributor > > > Andy ___ netmod mailing list netmod@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netmod
Re: [netmod] yang-next meeting at IETF 104?
>> PS: I've been too busy to setup a virtual meeting for us to finish the >> review of the YANG-next items in the GitHub tracker. But things are >> just beginning to free up a little for me now. Would folks like to >> have a meeting before 104 to finish that review? > > I think that's what the side meeting would do - review the current > items to see what makes sense. Sure, but perhaps the in-person time would be better spent analyzing the results of the reviews? Recall that we're trying to score each item on three axis: importance, complexity, backward-compatibility. Current results here: https://github.com/netmod-wg/yang-next/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+sort%3Acreated-asc. At the rate we were going (about 40% done), I imagine it taking 2-4 hours to score the remaining issues. This may not be an issue if we can meet multiple times during the week but, if time is tight, I'd rather have this part done before we meet. Kent // contributor ___ netmod mailing list netmod@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netmod
Re: [netmod] yang-next meeting at IETF 104?
Kent Watsen wrote: > I'm interested as well. > > PS: I've been too busy to setup a virtual meeting for us to finish the > review of the YANG-next items in the GitHub tracker. But things are > just beginning to free up a little for me now. Would folks like to > have a meeting before 104 to finish that review? I think that's what the side meeting would do - review the current items to see what makes sense. /martin > > Kent // contributor > > > -Original Message- > From: netmod on behalf of Robert Wilton > > Date: Monday, January 14, 2019 at 12:19 PM > To: Martin Bjorklund , "a...@yumaworks.com" > > Cc: NETMOD Working Group > Subject: Re: [netmod] yang-next meeting at IETF 104? > > I would also be interested. During the week would also be > best. Friday > morning could also be a possibility depending on whether there are > sessions scheduled. > > Thanks, > Rob > > > On 14/01/2019 17:10, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Andy Bierman wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> Is there any interest in 1 or more side meetings at the next IETF to > >> discuss the yang-next issue list, towards the goal of determining the > >> problem space in scope for YANG 1.2? > > I am interested in this. I prefer a meeting during the week; my plan > > is to arrive Sunday afternoon. > > > > > > /martin > > > >> Those of us who would need to make travel plans would appreciate it > >> if meetings like this were scheduled ASAP instead of ALAP ;-) > >> > >> > >> Andy > > ___ > > netmod mailing list > > netmod@ietf.org > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.ietf.org_mailman_listinfo_netmod=DwIGaQ=HAkYuh63rsuhr6Scbfh0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXcWzoCI=9zkP0xnJUvZGJ9EPoOH7Yhqn2gsBYaGTvjISlaJdcZo=BfGnjYejrGjQ93xAzY1pzA9M9wXXY7rNFeWy3dKZXWc=fNOa2UIOMhNDcO3nFEFBdqQSdrQ-KaYNF2GaTgfRsgI= > > . > > > > ___ > netmod mailing list > netmod@ietf.org > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.ietf.org_mailman_listinfo_netmod=DwIGaQ=HAkYuh63rsuhr6Scbfh0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXcWzoCI=9zkP0xnJUvZGJ9EPoOH7Yhqn2gsBYaGTvjISlaJdcZo=BfGnjYejrGjQ93xAzY1pzA9M9wXXY7rNFeWy3dKZXWc=fNOa2UIOMhNDcO3nFEFBdqQSdrQ-KaYNF2GaTgfRsgI= > ___ netmod mailing list netmod@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netmod
Re: [netmod] yang-next meeting at IETF 104?
Hi Kent, I think it makes sense to have a virtual meeting before 104. Mahesh Jethanandani mjethanand...@gmail.com > On Jan 15, 2019, at 6:45 AM, Kent Watsen wrote: > > I'm interested as well. > > PS: I've been too busy to setup a virtual meeting for us to finish the review > of the YANG-next items in the GitHub tracker. But things are just beginning > to free up a little for me now. Would folks like to have a meeting before > 104 to finish that review? > > Kent // contributor > > > -Original Message- > From: netmod on behalf of Robert Wilton > > Date: Monday, January 14, 2019 at 12:19 PM > To: Martin Bjorklund , "a...@yumaworks.com" > > Cc: NETMOD Working Group > Subject: Re: [netmod] yang-next meeting at IETF 104? > > I would also be interested. During the week would also be best. Friday > morning could also be a possibility depending on whether there are > sessions scheduled. > > Thanks, > Rob > > >> On 14/01/2019 17:10, Martin Bjorklund wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Andy Bierman wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> Is there any interest in 1 or more side meetings at the next IETF to >>> discuss the yang-next issue list, towards the goal of determining the >>> problem space in scope for YANG 1.2? >> I am interested in this. I prefer a meeting during the week; my plan >> is to arrive Sunday afternoon. >> >> >> /martin >> >>> Those of us who would need to make travel plans would appreciate it >>> if meetings like this were scheduled ASAP instead of ALAP ;-) >>> >>> >>> Andy >> ___ >> netmod mailing list >> netmod@ietf.org >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.ietf.org_mailman_listinfo_netmod=DwIGaQ=HAkYuh63rsuhr6Scbfh0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXcWzoCI=9zkP0xnJUvZGJ9EPoOH7Yhqn2gsBYaGTvjISlaJdcZo=BfGnjYejrGjQ93xAzY1pzA9M9wXXY7rNFeWy3dKZXWc=fNOa2UIOMhNDcO3nFEFBdqQSdrQ-KaYNF2GaTgfRsgI= >> . > > ___ > netmod mailing list > netmod@ietf.org > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.ietf.org_mailman_listinfo_netmod=DwIGaQ=HAkYuh63rsuhr6Scbfh0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXcWzoCI=9zkP0xnJUvZGJ9EPoOH7Yhqn2gsBYaGTvjISlaJdcZo=BfGnjYejrGjQ93xAzY1pzA9M9wXXY7rNFeWy3dKZXWc=fNOa2UIOMhNDcO3nFEFBdqQSdrQ-KaYNF2GaTgfRsgI= > > ___ > netmod mailing list > netmod@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netmod ___ netmod mailing list netmod@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netmod
Re: [netmod] yang-next meeting at IETF 104?
I'm interested as well. PS: I've been too busy to setup a virtual meeting for us to finish the review of the YANG-next items in the GitHub tracker. But things are just beginning to free up a little for me now. Would folks like to have a meeting before 104 to finish that review? Kent // contributor -Original Message- From: netmod on behalf of Robert Wilton Date: Monday, January 14, 2019 at 12:19 PM To: Martin Bjorklund , "a...@yumaworks.com" Cc: NETMOD Working Group Subject: Re: [netmod] yang-next meeting at IETF 104? I would also be interested. During the week would also be best. Friday morning could also be a possibility depending on whether there are sessions scheduled. Thanks, Rob On 14/01/2019 17:10, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > Hi, > > Andy Bierman wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Is there any interest in 1 or more side meetings at the next IETF to >> discuss the yang-next issue list, towards the goal of determining the >> problem space in scope for YANG 1.2? > I am interested in this. I prefer a meeting during the week; my plan > is to arrive Sunday afternoon. > > > /martin > >> Those of us who would need to make travel plans would appreciate it >> if meetings like this were scheduled ASAP instead of ALAP ;-) >> >> >> Andy > ___ > netmod mailing list > netmod@ietf.org > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.ietf.org_mailman_listinfo_netmod=DwIGaQ=HAkYuh63rsuhr6Scbfh0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXcWzoCI=9zkP0xnJUvZGJ9EPoOH7Yhqn2gsBYaGTvjISlaJdcZo=BfGnjYejrGjQ93xAzY1pzA9M9wXXY7rNFeWy3dKZXWc=fNOa2UIOMhNDcO3nFEFBdqQSdrQ-KaYNF2GaTgfRsgI= > . > ___ netmod mailing list netmod@ietf.org https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.ietf.org_mailman_listinfo_netmod=DwIGaQ=HAkYuh63rsuhr6Scbfh0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXcWzoCI=9zkP0xnJUvZGJ9EPoOH7Yhqn2gsBYaGTvjISlaJdcZo=BfGnjYejrGjQ93xAzY1pzA9M9wXXY7rNFeWy3dKZXWc=fNOa2UIOMhNDcO3nFEFBdqQSdrQ-KaYNF2GaTgfRsgI= ___ netmod mailing list netmod@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netmod
Re: [netmod] yang-next meeting at IETF 104?
I would also be interested. During the week would also be best. Friday morning could also be a possibility depending on whether there are sessions scheduled. Thanks, Rob On 14/01/2019 17:10, Martin Bjorklund wrote: Hi, Andy Bierman wrote: Hi, Is there any interest in 1 or more side meetings at the next IETF to discuss the yang-next issue list, towards the goal of determining the problem space in scope for YANG 1.2? I am interested in this. I prefer a meeting during the week; my plan is to arrive Sunday afternoon. /martin Those of us who would need to make travel plans would appreciate it if meetings like this were scheduled ASAP instead of ALAP ;-) Andy ___ netmod mailing list netmod@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netmod . ___ netmod mailing list netmod@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netmod
Re: [netmod] yang-next meeting at IETF 104?
Hi, Andy Bierman wrote: > Hi, > > Is there any interest in 1 or more side meetings at the next IETF to > discuss the yang-next issue list, towards the goal of determining the > problem space in scope for YANG 1.2? I am interested in this. I prefer a meeting during the week; my plan is to arrive Sunday afternoon. /martin > Those of us who would need to make travel plans would appreciate it > if meetings like this were scheduled ASAP instead of ALAP ;-) > > > Andy ___ netmod mailing list netmod@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netmod
[netmod] yang-next meeting at IETF 104?
Hi, Is there any interest in 1 or more side meetings at the next IETF to discuss the yang-next issue list, towards the goal of determining the problem space in scope for YANG 1.2? Those of us who would need to make travel plans would appreciate it if meetings like this were scheduled ASAP instead of ALAP ;-) Andy ___ netmod mailing list netmod@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netmod
