Re: [netmod] yang-data-ext issues

2018-05-02 Thread Martin Bjorklund
Andy Bierman wrote: > On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 7:09 AM, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > > > Andy Bierman writes: > > > > > On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 8:13 AM, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > > > > > >> On Fri, 2018-04-27 at 16:47 +0200,

Re: [netmod] yang-data-ext issues

2018-05-02 Thread Martin Bjorklund
Kent Watsen wrote: > > Lada writes: > > Andy writes: > >>IMO, the yang-data defined in RFC 8040 has a clear purpose, and it > >>is sufficient for that purpose, which is a YANG representation of > >>an instance document (such as a protocol message or file). > > > > The same

Re: [netmod] yang-data-ext issues

2018-05-02 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
On Wed, 2018-05-02 at 09:16 +0200, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > > On Fri, 2018-04-27 at 12:19 +0100, Robert Wilton wrote: > > > > > > On 27/04/2018 12:03, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > > > > On Fri, 2018-04-27 at 11:23 +0100, Robert Wilton wrote: > > > > > On

Re: [netmod] yang-data-ext issues

2018-05-02 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
On Wed, 2018-05-02 at 11:36 +0200, Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: > On Wed, May 02, 2018 at 11:25:06AM +0200, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > > > > The primary use case is not "generic RPC messages", but standalone > > instance documents, error-info structures, etc. > > > > > This doesn't seem to be a

Re: [netmod] [Netconf] [netconf] Comments on draft-ietf-netconf-nmda-netconf-05

2018-05-02 Thread Rohit R Ranade
Hi Juergen, Some thoughts in-lined. With Regards, Rohit R Ranade -Original Message- From: Juergen Schoenwaelder [mailto:j.schoenwael...@jacobs-university.de] Sent: 25 April 2018 16:12 To: Rohit R Ranade Cc: netc...@ietf.org; netmod@ietf.org Subject: Re:

Re: [netmod] yang-data-ext issues

2018-05-02 Thread Juergen Schoenwaelder
On Wed, May 02, 2018 at 11:25:06AM +0200, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > > The primary use case is not "generic RPC messages", but standalone > instance documents, error-info structures, etc. > > > This doesn't seem to be a fundamental change in YANG's scope, or > > architecture. The proper solution

Re: [netmod] yang-data-ext issues

2018-05-02 Thread Martin Bjorklund
Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > On Wed, 2018-05-02 at 09:16 +0200, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > > Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > > > On Fri, 2018-04-27 at 12:19 +0100, Robert Wilton wrote: > > > > > > > > On 27/04/2018 12:03, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > > > > > On Fri, 2018-04-27 at

Re: [netmod] yang-data-ext issues

2018-05-02 Thread Robert Wilton
On 02/05/2018 08:25, Martin Bjorklund wrote: Andy Bierman wrote: On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 7:09 AM, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: Andy Bierman writes: On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 8:13 AM, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: On Fri,

Re: [netmod] yang-data-ext issues

2018-05-02 Thread Martin Bjorklund
Robert Wilton wrote: > > > On 02/05/2018 08:25, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > > Andy Bierman wrote: > >> On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 7:09 AM, Ladislav Lhotka > >> wrote: > >> > >>> Andy Bierman writes: > >>> > On Fri, Apr

Re: [netmod] [Netconf] [netconf] Comments on draft-ietf-netconf-nmda-netconf-05

2018-05-02 Thread Juergen Schoenwaelder
On Wed, May 02, 2018 at 11:28:42AM +, Rohit R Ranade wrote: > Hi Juergen, > > Some thoughts in-lined. > > With Regards, > Rohit R Ranade > > -Original Message- > From: Juergen Schoenwaelder [mailto:j.schoenwael...@jacobs-university.de] > Sent: 25 April 2018 16:12 > To: Rohit R

[netmod] NETCONF server handling of 'when' statements

2018-05-02 Thread Sterne, Jason (Nokia - CA/Ottawa)
Hi all, I've seen some older threads about 'when' handling and they ended up creating a lot of debate about behavior & intentions (and about how well the text is written in the specs). I'm hoping that the community out there is in agreement on yes vs no for the questions below. Given the

[netmod] Abusing YANG extensions

2018-05-02 Thread Andy Bierman
Hi, The discussion about yang-data is stuck because the NETMOD WG does not understand or does not agree on what it means to abuse a YANG extension and use it improperly. If a tool implementing a standard cannot do so without implementing certain extensions, then those extensions are not

Re: [netmod] IPR call on draft-ietf-netmod-acl-model-18

2018-05-02 Thread Lisa Huang
Hi Kent, No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft. Regards, Lisa On Tue, May 1, 2018 at 1:03 PM, Kent Watsen wrote: > Thank you, Mahesh and Sonal. > > I'm still waiting to hear from Lisa and Dana. Neither have been heard > from since the pen moved a