Re: Disc cache updates

2015-03-16 Thread lists
In article 549f1fa454.andrew-...@waitrose.com,
   Andrew Pinder andrew.pin...@tiscali.co.uk wrote:
 I'm finding this on my ARMini.  Is this common?

I also see it from time to time on my ARMX6 and that's got a fast SATA SSD.

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Re: Disc cache updates

2015-03-16 Thread george greenfield
In message 72ec0aa554.harr...@blueyonder.co.uk
  Harriet Bazley li...@orange.wingsandbeaks.org.uk wrote:

 On 14 Mar 2015 as I do recall,
   Andrew Pinder  wrote:
 
 In message 20141201160839.gh10...@kyllikki.org
  on 1 Dec 2014 Vincent Sanders vi...@netsurf-browser.org wrote:

  The disc cache has recently been updated to track the speed of write
  operations.

  As a result of this performance tracking The browser will now detect
  if a system cannot sustain a write speed of one Megabit (120kilobytes/
  second) the cache will disable itself and display a warning.


 I'm finding this on my ARMini.  Is this common?

 I'm seeing this constantly on the Iyonix -- though I tried setting the cache
 to zero and still got the same message.   I thought maybe it was failing to
 find the !Cache application altogether after switching users.
 
I'm mystified by this as well. I'm getting the 'write speed not high 
enough' message every start up on my system*. If the system is failing 
a benchmark of 120 KB/sec, how is it that !Speed records IKB and 4KB 
block write speeds on the SD card in question as 314 and 1067 KB/sec 
respectively (and larger blocks much faster e.g. 6809 KB/sec for 
64KB)?

*NS 3.3, RasPi B @ 900MHz, RO 5.21 [RC12, 12-Jan-15].

-- 
George



Re: Disc cache updates

2015-03-16 Thread John Rickman Iyonix
Harriet Bazley  wrote

 Down with categorical imperatives!

Kant only had one.

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siempre luchar contra el zeitgeist



Re: Disc cache updates

2015-03-16 Thread Harriet Bazley
On 14 Mar 2015 as I do recall,
  Andrew Pinder  wrote:

 In message 20141201160839.gh10...@kyllikki.org
  on 1 Dec 2014 Vincent Sanders vi...@netsurf-browser.org wrote:

  The disc cache has recently been updated to track the speed of write
  operations.

  As a result of this performance tracking The browser will now detect
  if a system cannot sustain a write speed of one Megabit (120kilobytes/
  second) the cache will disable itself and display a warning.


 I'm finding this on my ARMini.  Is this common?

I'm seeing this constantly on the Iyonix -- though I tried setting the cache
to zero and still got the same message.   I thought maybe it was failing to
find the !Cache application altogether after switching users.

-- 
Harriet Bazley ==  Loyaulte me lie ==

Down with categorical imperatives!



Re: Disc cache updates

2015-03-15 Thread Tony Moore
On 14 Mar 2015, Peter Young pnyo...@ormail.co.uk wrote:

[snip]

 Or you could use !Memphis.

Application and source files are available at Malcolm Hussain-Gambles'
http://www.paymentlabs.com/riscos/tutorials/memphis

Tony






Re: Disc cache updates

2015-03-14 Thread Jeremy Nicoll - ml netsurf
Andrew Pinder andrew.pin...@tiscali.co.uk wrote:

Presumably using !Cache on a RAM disc would be a waste of time as 
stuff would not be saved when the computer was turned off.

Not entirely a waste of time.  If during one use of the computer (ie until
you next turn it off) you visit multiple pages from any site the cache will
still satisfy some of the fetches they require.

You could run an Obey file just before you shut down to copy stuff from RAM
disk to real disk, and reverse that process soon after booting, though I
think if you did you'd need to prune the cache somehow.

-- 
Jeremy C B Nicoll - my opinions are my own.



Re: Disc cache updates

2015-03-14 Thread Andrew Pinder
In message 20141201160839.gh10...@kyllikki.org
 on 1 Dec 2014 Vincent Sanders vi...@netsurf-browser.org wrote:

 The disc cache has recently been updated to track the speed of write
 operations.

 As a result of this performance tracking The browser will now detect
 if a system cannot sustain a write speed of one Megabit (120kilobytes/
 second) the cache will disable itself and display a warning.


I'm finding this on my ARMini.  Is this common?

Presumably using !Cache on a RAM disc would be a waste of time as 
stuff would not be saved when the computer was turned off.


Regards

Andrew
-- 
Andrew Pinder



Re: Disc cache updates

2015-03-14 Thread Chris Young
On Sat, 14 Mar 2015 07:44:46 GMT, Andrew Pinder wrote:

 In message 20141201160839.gh10...@kyllikki.org
  on 1 Dec 2014 Vincent Sanders vi...@netsurf-browser.org wrote:
 
  The disc cache has recently been updated to track the speed of write
  operations.
 
  As a result of this performance tracking The browser will now detect
  if a system cannot sustain a write speed of one Megabit (120kilobytes/
  second) the cache will disable itself and display a warning.
 
 I'm finding this on my ARMini.  Is this common?

I get it on my SAM440 very frequently.  I'd be very surprised if the
write bandwidth was that low as it's a fast SATA drive.

Curiously I've never seen the message on my old EEE, which has the
slowest SSD write times known to man (it's slower than any HDD I've
encountered).

I suspect the OS has a lot to do with it, especially when writing lots
of small files there's likely to be significant overhead.

Chris



Re: Disc cache updates

2015-03-14 Thread cj
In article 036f31a454.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk,
   Peter Young pnyo...@ormail.co.uk wrote:
 Memphis is a RAM disc that saves itself at shutdown and loads
 itself at startup if you configure it to do this.

The Cache can grow - by default it is set to 1 GB. It would soon
overflow the available RAM if you tried to save it over sessions.

-- 
Chris Johnson



Re: Disc cache updates

2015-03-14 Thread Peter Young
On 14 Mar 2015  Andrew Pinder andrew.pin...@tiscali.co.uk wrote:

 In message 20141201160839.gh10...@kyllikki.org
  on 1 Dec 2014 Vincent Sanders vi...@netsurf-browser.org wrote:

 The disc cache has recently been updated to track the speed of write
 operations.

 As a result of this performance tracking The browser will now detect
 if a system cannot sustain a write speed of one Megabit (120kilobytes/
 second) the cache will disable itself and display a warning.


 I'm finding this on my ARMini.  Is this common?

 Presumably using !Cache on a RAM disc would be a waste of time as
 stuff would not be saved when the computer was turned off.

Or you could use !Memphis. It's maintained by Fred Graute, but his 
Iconbar site doesn't seem to be available at present.

Memphis is a RAM disc that saves itself at shutdown and loads itself 
at startup if you configure it to do this.

Best wishes,

Peter.

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pnyo...@ormail.co.uk